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Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: pstwo on October 04, 2002, 12:10:21 PM
It\'s hi res shots (1024 x 576).      Looks amazing!  


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Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: mm on October 04, 2002, 01:23:13 PM
i swear i will completely write off sega if this rail shooter ends up like gunvalkryie
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: rastalant on October 04, 2002, 02:00:15 PM
:eek: :eek: :eek: Whoa i must have this game.
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Post by: Unicron! on October 04, 2002, 02:02:55 PM
it looks....AMAZING!!!Gorgeous!!!
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Post by: Halberto on October 04, 2002, 02:18:27 PM
It looks like crap
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Post by: SonyFan on October 04, 2002, 03:15:57 PM
Yer not the only one Raist.. when I get an Xbox it\'ll definately be one of the first titles I pick up. (Depending on reviews/rental :D )
I don\'t see how you could say it looks like crap ViVi... it\'s definately ODD looking.. but in terms of textures, effects, and polygon count it\'s very impressive. Chances are it\'ll be a great game too as long as (as mm said) the controls aren\'t overly complex.
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: pstwo on October 04, 2002, 03:38:09 PM
Hey rastalant, I forgot more screens  :D

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:eek:
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Post by: rastalant on October 04, 2002, 04:03:18 PM
Whoa pstwo thanks for the pics that is too awesome.:eek: :eek: :eek:
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Post by: SonyFan on October 04, 2002, 04:36:09 PM
pstwo - Keep this up and I\'m going to change your username to 56k warning. = / Please man.. don\'t jus cut and paste.. try to encourage a conversation, not a peanut gallery.
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Post by: Ginko on October 04, 2002, 05:18:10 PM
9.3 from OXM if that means anything to you guys.

Apparently the gameplay has mixed in elements of all the previous Panzer Dragoon games.  




They went as far to say that their expectations were blown away by the graphics, story, gameplay, and the staggering amount of unlockable goodies.  

The cons-
You can\'t help but wonder what it would be like in complete 3D.
Cheap shots from some enemies and bosses.
Wish there were more types of dragons to use.

Sounds good.:)
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Post by: Jumpman on October 04, 2002, 05:45:50 PM
This game looks downright amazing. One of the only games to impress me with graphics. The others being Rogue Squadron and Ego. Good work Sega. I just hope they didn\'t focus on the graphics too much. It has a very clean look to it.

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It looks like crap

So do you. :p
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Post by: pstwo on October 04, 2002, 06:52:04 PM
Ginko, you got the new OXM?  Mine shoud be coming soon in the mail.  WOW!  That PD review sounds damn great!  I sure think it\'s going to be a GOTY! These screens are sure nice.  I don\'t know what  ViVi is talking about.
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Post by: Ginko on October 04, 2002, 07:03:05 PM
Just got it today...but my demo disc won\'t work:mad:

GOTY? LOL.

Well, I really haven\'t seen anything worthy of that title...but I\'m betting GTA: Vice City gets it.  *cringes*
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Post by: Halberto on October 04, 2002, 07:47:24 PM
*~Message Deleted~*

Viv, those kind of comments are NOT welcome here. If it was all just a joke and not entended seriously, it\'s not funny. Please refrain from posts like that in the future. - SonyFan
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Post by: mm on October 04, 2002, 09:54:20 PM
how can it be GOTY?  what about halo 2?  or any other xbox game in yer sig?

*yawn*
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Post by: rastalant on October 04, 2002, 09:55:17 PM
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Originally posted by mm
how can it be GOTY?  what about halo 2?  or any other xbox game in yer sig?

*yawn*


If it was on ps2 i\'m sure you wouldn\' have a problem with it.;) ;)
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Post by: mm on October 04, 2002, 09:56:23 PM
you dont like posting in the console discussion forum do you, rast?
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Post by: rastalant on October 04, 2002, 09:57:04 PM
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Originally posted by mm
you dont like posting in the console discussion forum do you, rast?



hey mm i was kidding you da man.:D
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Post by: mm on October 04, 2002, 09:58:35 PM
no need for reason

you should know by now i dont care what console titles are on
i just have certain criteria i WILL NOT lower my standards for like you guys do

its like 30 fps and blur on a top of the line console are ok for you guys when im saying "WTF?!"
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Post by: pstwo on October 04, 2002, 10:01:16 PM
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Originally posted by mm
how can it be GOTY?  what about halo 2?  or any other xbox game in yer sig?

*yawn*



:laughing:   The games in my sig is only the games I like.  But Halo 2 and PD might be "only" Xbox Game of the year.    :D
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Post by: mm on October 04, 2002, 10:02:01 PM
/me winks at pstwo

now were on the same level for once
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Post by: rastalant on October 04, 2002, 10:02:23 PM
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Originally posted by mm
no need for reason

you should know by now i dont care what console titles are on
i just have certain criteria i WILL NOT lower my standards for like you guys do

its like 30 fps and blur on a top of the line console are ok for you guys when im saying "WTF?!"


So you don\'t think panzer dragoon orta will be any good?  Well i loved the first 2 on saturn.  Never played the 3rd one.
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Post by: mm on October 04, 2002, 10:04:23 PM
rail shooters are crippled by nature

i loved PD1 and 2 for what they were, and PDS was one of the finest RPG\'s, but its gonna take more than some pretty textures to make PDO an A+ title today, let alone compare to its much older siblings
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Post by: rastalant on October 04, 2002, 10:05:44 PM
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Originally posted by mm
rail shooters are crippled by nature

i loved PD1 and 2 for what they were, and PDS was one of the finest RPG\'s, but its gonna take more than some pretty textures to make PDO an A+ title today, let alone compare to its much older siblings


Well your entitled to your opinion.  Ol\' Rastalant is off to bed now goodnight guys.:) :nerd:
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Post by: RichG on October 05, 2002, 12:41:13 AM
Quality graphics. Still wish they were doing the RPG and not the shootemup.
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Post by: pstwo on October 05, 2002, 01:15:33 AM
Justin is a regular poster at Gaming Age board and has good impressions on all types of games.  Check this one out he just posted now.    

http://www.tokyopia.com/reviews.asp?reviewsid=30

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More detailed gameplay impressions of Panzer Dragoon Orta
Posted on Saturday, October 05, 2002 by Justin


Trade shows are terrible places to experience games. You\'re standing up, you have about 10 minutes if you\'re lucky, and you can\'t hear a thing above the din of screaming game trailers and fanboys.

Thankfully, Microsoft put together a rather excellent little Xbox preview DVD for us to take home, and play in the comfort of our own homes with Digital 5.1 surround, widescreen vision etc.

After playing through and beating all the demos available, I came away with these impressions. Bear in mind: these ARE NOT REVIEWS. They are impressions of work-in-progress games.


1. PANZER DRAGOON ORTA


I was lucky enough be the first journalist to see and play PDO back in April, and back then, it was pretty bare bones stuff. Not much detail, not a great sense of flow. And the visuals were nothing that couldn\'t have been done on either GC or PS2.

The latest demo destroys all memory of that play test. The TGS build of PDO is stunning. This is a graphics heavy game, so I\'ll talk about that first. PDO might not look as clean as the resized hi-res frame buffer shots floating around, but it still looks damn good. At this stage, I would say it\'s one of the three best looking games around anywhere.

The level detail is staggering. The demo starts with three massive red dragons chasing you through a middle eastern style city. Soon, you\'re being chased through the city streets in the rain at night, hundreds of tiny citizens fleeing the scene in panic below you, buildings toppling and mechanical reinforcements from the city firing off laser chunks everywhere in confusion. PDO really makes you feel you you\'re flying through scenes from a little world, and not just arbitrary game levels.

The control feels wonderfully responsive, just enough variety without bogging you down in complexity. The analogue pad moves the dragoon, and even this basic element feels wonderfully \'swoopy\' and responsive. L+R buttons switch the view around 90 degrees -- a fluid camera switch that soon feels completely intuitive even in the midst of action.

There are buttons for temporarily slowing right down, almost to a stop, or dashing fast ahead. These abilities recharge and can only be used once every few seconds. Finally, the black button sets off a truly stunning bezerk attack -- the entire screen detail bleaches to negative and your dragon unleashes an insane maelstrom of laser fire on everything. Very cool.

But for me, the best control feature is the new dragon morph button. The A button instantly switches the shape of your dragon to one of three different formations:

Dragon Form 1: Normal size dragon, controls well. Shoots standard fire at medium speed, medium hit range. Laser (blue, standard bolts) is weak strength, but can lock onto 12 targets rapidly before unleashing.

Dragon Form 2: Dragon with a massive wing span, and also a little slow. Shoots heavy fire at medium speed, medium hit range. Laser is MASSIVELY powerful (red, swirly homing lasers which look very cool) but can only lock onto four targets at a time before unleashing.

Dragon Form 3: Small dragon with tiny wings. Shoots very fast, powerful standard fire and has a huge hit area. But no lock on lasers at all. Very agile dragon with great control for caverns, small spaces etc.


You can switch between any of these forms in an instant, and it adds a lot to the game. For example, the boss fight is against a massive air-ship loaded with gun turrets and dragon launching pads. You need to be constantly switching around your dragon type to counter barrages of incoming bullets (small rapid fire dragon), or go in for the big kill near the centre (large dragon) or battle against other dragons further out (default). You also need to be watching your radar all the time for enemies coming up on the sides or behind. Combined with the constant form-switching required, the basic play of PDO can be quite strategic.

I also love the sensitive way in which the camera tracks around when you switch views. A dragon might be flying towards you from one direction, and as it swoops over your head out of view, you can keep tracking it with your fire as you switch the camera around. I\'ve no doubt that this makes for some superb, seamless 360 degree battles further into the game.

Kudos must be given to Smilebit for really dressing up the spirit of old-style gameplay in next-generation clothes. PDO is nothing dramatically new. But the \'feel\' of the game is impeccable. Details can really make or break a game, and PDO gets all the small things right.

Coming next: From Software\'s insane destroy-everything action game, O.To.Go.


Justin
justin@tokyopia.com
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Post by: Unicron! on October 05, 2002, 02:48:47 AM
Oh my god.I want this game.It sounds too promising.PD is one of my favourite series.I want an XBOX just for that game.
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Post by: Kurt Angle on October 05, 2002, 03:58:45 AM
It looks alright.
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Post by: Ginko on October 05, 2002, 07:26:07 AM
Thanks for the impressions pstwo...I\'m glad the game is shaping up to be something spectacular.

People...if you have seen the game in motion, then you know how slick the game really is.  Beautiful.
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Post by: pstwo on October 12, 2002, 10:04:14 AM
WOW!  These new screens are even better looking!  

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Post by: Unicron! on October 12, 2002, 12:11:15 PM
:eek:OMG!!!Visual ecstasy.
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Post by: Ashford on October 12, 2002, 01:15:47 PM
Looks incredible.
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Post by: jiggs on October 12, 2002, 01:21:41 PM
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Originally posted by mm
i swear i will completely write off sega if this rail shooter ends up like gunvalkryie


Dont worry mm I played the full demo at E3 and its very similar to the first two but obviously better looking.

GV was silly and too hard to play. PDO is much smoother and easier to control. I think you will like it.

Whoever says this game looks like crap please put your contacts back in.
________
SeleneStar (http://camslivesexy.com/cam/SeleneStar)
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Post by: Unicron! on October 12, 2002, 02:45:48 PM
This is a must buy game for XBOX IMO and a great game generally.A great game among the few by Sega.
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Post by: nataku on October 12, 2002, 03:28:21 PM
From what I hear it plays very similar to the first two rail shooters on the Saturn, the control setup is identical as well. :(

IMO, this would be a rental for me.  I can\'t justify a purchase based on a graphics upgrade alone.

But I do agree with everyone who\'s said it, the game is very beautiful.

Anyone know the number of enemies that are displayed on screen at once?
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Post by: Unicron! on October 13, 2002, 02:59:14 AM
It has improved the style of playing of the first 2 Panzer Dragoons.And dont tell me now that the rail shooter dragoons werent adictive.I bet u missed the first 2 after Panzer Dragoon Saga.
I hope its bigger though.
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 13, 2002, 12:32:49 PM
Those people complaining about the first two Panzer Dragoon being just "rail shooters" - you missed something then. There was charm to the games. The music, the graphics, the dragon. It all mixed to be a beautiful game. Then there was Panzer Dragoon Saga - which is a totally different ballgame..

*swoons*

By the way - does anyone know about the music for the game? Does it live up to the original soundtracks? I loaded up Panzer Dragoon lastnight and the first thing that amazed me (once again) was the beautiful music that played , as I flew on my dragon.
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Post by: Unicron! on October 13, 2002, 01:25:00 PM
OH YEAH THE MUSIC!!The atmosphere.The sounds.The style.Beautifull.Good u mentioned those.And it was released in 1997.Great achievement from Sega.Sony didnt deliver aything similar until fall of 1999.
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Post by: Ashford on October 13, 2002, 05:04:08 PM
97?

Didn\'t PD come out....94?
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Post by: Bobs_Hardware on October 13, 2002, 05:14:45 PM
I thought it was 1995..?
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Post by: SonyFan on October 13, 2002, 06:20:28 PM
Panzer Dragoon came out in 95. It was a launch title for the Sega Saturn. Panzer Dragoon II or Panzer Dragoon Saga is probly the one you\'re thinking of Unicron!.
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Post by: Unicron! on October 14, 2002, 04:44:36 AM
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Originally posted by SonyFan
Panzer Dragoon came out in 95. It was a launch title for the Sega Saturn. Panzer Dragoon II or Panzer Dragoon Saga is probly the one you\'re thinking of Unicron!.


Yes it was PD Zwei I was talking about.It was after midnight here in Cyprus when I posted it so it got away of my mind.Sleepy.And it was in 1996.
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Post by: pstwo on October 15, 2002, 10:53:30 AM
Here\'s some ingame shots.   It really looks beautiful!  


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Post by: Unicron! on October 15, 2002, 12:30:02 PM
I want it I want it I want it I want it I want it!!!!DAMN!!I need cash to buy an XBOX and PD:Orta(hopes someone from the forums gives to poor Unicron some).
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Post by: Ashford on October 15, 2002, 01:12:03 PM
Why are they so grainy?
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Post by: Blade on October 15, 2002, 01:48:54 PM
Despite the grainy shots, it still looks great. And it won\'t likely be grainy in gameplay..

This is the same thing that happened with Mario Sunshine.. grainy shots. It\'s the way they\'re captured.
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Post by: mm on October 15, 2002, 02:11:44 PM
ummm, something seems to be lacking in that last pic
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Post by: Kurt Angle on October 15, 2002, 02:32:47 PM
Looks amazing!
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Post by: Unicron! on October 16, 2002, 08:58:05 AM
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Originally posted by mm
ummm, something seems to be lacking in that last pic


Nah.You better check your eyes.There is nothing missing in that pic.Cant u see the detailed enviroments?Right guys?You can all see them right?(Unicron PM\'s everyone except MM:say yes ):D
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Post by: Unicron! on October 16, 2002, 08:59:26 AM
Damn double posted
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Post by: SonyFan on October 16, 2002, 02:42:28 PM
I know what\'s missing from those pics... a decent resolution. Hopefully those are just poor captures and the final product will resemble more of the former screenies than the latter screenies when viewed on our TV sets. Even so, they still look increadible.

NOTE: pstwo, we get the point already. No more screenshots in this thread. In fact.. I say a limit of about 10 screenshots per thread should be enforced. Choose wisely.. or edit up your original post to put in new pics as they become available. My poor analog modem and fellow member\'s patience can\'t take much more of this. Capice?
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Post by: pstwo on October 17, 2002, 12:17:04 AM
Sure thing!   ;)
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 18, 2002, 02:44:05 AM
I have to agree with Sonyfan, as much as I apperciate all these glorious screens, I can\'t load \'em all because of my connection. 10 per thread now..
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Post by: The Daywalker on October 18, 2002, 07:40:27 AM
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Originally posted by mm
rail shooters are crippled by nature

i loved PD1 and 2 for what they were, and PDS was one of the finest RPG\'s, but its gonna take more than some pretty textures to make PDO an A+ title today, let alone compare to its much older siblings


I agree 100%
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Post by: ddaryl on October 23, 2002, 10:57:58 AM
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Originally posted by mm
i swear i will completely write off sega if this rail shooter ends up like gunvalkryie



amen brother. I bought Gunvalkyrie becaue I wanted a 2nd Xbox game and it was made by Sega.... Could not get into it at all


I have hope for Panzeer Dragoon
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: AlteredBeast on October 23, 2002, 11:13:10 AM
how this game will end up ANYTHING like GUNVALKYRIE is beyond me. Since the games are nothing alike.

mm, I can already tell you that you will be disappointed with PDO. I would just stop reading threads all together, if I were you.


Eric Jacob
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Post by: Ryu on October 23, 2002, 02:09:53 PM
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mm, I can already tell you that you will be disappointed with PDO. I would just stop reading threads all together, if I were you.


Have to agree with Altered on this one.  Whenever a hyped Xbox game is released, there\'s always some flaw that you overstate no matter how insignificant.  Take the blur on the ground in Rallisport Challenge or the slow down in Halo.  Despite both games being absolutely gorgeous and a whole ton of fun, there\'s always something that you have to completely rip on.

I\'m just wondering if that\'s absolutely necessary considering just how fun some of these games are.
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: mm on October 23, 2002, 02:34:15 PM
those are the major flaws (blur and slowdown)

there are several minor flaws with each game that i dont mention because they are trivial to everyone but me

-incoming xbox zealot remark-
"but you dont do the same for PS2 games, you hypocrit!"

ahhhhh, but they are not on display nor being compared as better than anything else, so i keep my negative comments to myself.  these games (rallisport, gunvalkryie, halo, splinter cell, enclave, etc), are hyped to be PS2 title killers when they are far from that.

you dont see a single person hyping that red faction 2 is the halo killer.  or that (insert other PS2 title) is the (insert other xbox title here) killah.  we value PS2 games for what they are and what they achieve.   FAR too many people value xbox games for what they are supposed to be, OR what they want them to be.

Eik would be proud.  im using rational sense (and it hurts!)
:P
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Post by: SonyFan on October 23, 2002, 03:06:21 PM
Funny, I\'ve seen quite a few (Insert Xbox Title)-Killa for PS2 discussions on these forums before. They\'re not that common, but neither are these (Insert PS2 Title)-Killa for Xbox threads. That\'s the sentiment outside of these forums.. but in here I think for the most part people tend to ignore the Xbox unless their either commenting on a game or bashing it.

Really, only pstwo and raistalant are the only ones who did that.. and I thought that situation was already taken care of? Wasn\'t it?
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: AlteredBeast on October 23, 2002, 09:11:04 PM
SonyFan, there IS life outside of PSX2c (Gaming-Age, join us, brother), but even so, people hype XBox games to be \'PS2 Killers\' in only the sense of gameplay. Most people (sans the most irrational TXBer) will agree they only mean in gameplay over a title. This is shown like Sega GT 2002 is the GT3 killer!! It didn\'t happen, but SGT2002 is still a good game. Enjoy them for what they are, not what a bunch of people want them to be.

Halo is the best multiplayer FPS on a console, especially if you are doing it with more than one XBox, something most games can\'t even comprehend. The slowdown is scarce and NEVER truly messes with the gameplay like a poorly coded fighting game or game like Shenmue does.

GV was never a \'PS2 killah!!!\' anywhere but your mind, btw. I hoped it was good and I happen to enjoy the game, JSRF even more so. In fact, JSRF is one of the best Sega games, along with Monkey Ball 2 and Virtua Fighter 4, to come out of Sega since going 3rd party.

Enclave was only hyped by a SMALL minority of XBox fanboys. I actually hear it is a fun game with amazing difficulty and graphics, but am definitely going to rent it first without making any judgements first.


Eric Jacob
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: JP on October 24, 2002, 01:00:52 AM
It looks pretty good graphically but there\'s something, which I can\'t really put my finger on, that makes it look kinda boring and unimpressive to me.
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: politiepet on October 24, 2002, 03:44:15 AM
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
Halo is the best multiplayer FPS on a console


erhm, maybe graphically, but timesplitters was a great multiplayer game, and I doubt I will ever have more fun playing HALO,
(I haven\'t played it though)
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on October 24, 2002, 04:03:30 AM
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Originally posted by AlteredBeast
(Gaming-Age, join us, brother)


Eric Jacob


No.. you join us at GT!
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: Samwise on October 24, 2002, 05:16:30 AM
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Originally posted by JP
It looks pretty good graphically but there\'s something, which I can\'t really put my finger on, that makes it look kinda boring and unimpressive to me.
I feel a bit like you... there\'s something that just looks bland to me - boring - if you will. On the other hand some of the effects look real good, so it\'s a bit odd.
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: mm on October 24, 2002, 06:13:43 AM
indeed, halo is merely the best looking console FPS to date.
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 24, 2002, 06:17:28 AM
I have to agree that, MM, you\'re going to be dissapointed. Every thread you complain about the game, but at the same time show a hint of hope. It just seems that your distaste for the Xbox may very well carry over on some quality games (if, this indeed turns out to be one). Will you\'re distaste make you pick the game apart completely and walk away in disgust or will you swallow some of the pride, notice some of the flaws and still enjoy the game?

As much as I dislike my dust-box ...err Xbox, I can\'t help but be excited about a sequel a lot of us have dreamed about for the longest time, no matter what console it is on.
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: Ginko on October 24, 2002, 06:29:07 AM
Seeing the game in motion vs. seeing screens are two totally differnt things for this game.

Impressions so far have praised the game, if anything it will be good.  Nothing to worry about.  I hope nobody here is expecting totally new gameplay and an experience unlike anything else they\'ve played.  If you are, just don\'t play it.

As for people bitching about the game being on rails...I better see the same people complaining about the new StarFox game.
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 24, 2002, 06:50:51 AM
*raises hand* I frickin\' hate it, does it count? :)

And I don\'t expect anything different than the original two Panzer\'s and infact, I don\'t want anything different. I\'ve went back to the first one lately on my days off and I still find myself enjoying it just as much as when it came out years ago and I was playin\' it as a demo at Toy\'s \'r \'us Saturn kiosk (or I think thats where it was? ).
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: mm on October 24, 2002, 07:10:26 AM
if PDO plays EXACYLY like the 1st two, but with updated graphics

ill be as happy as a pig in shit

BUT, if it contains blur, slowdown, excessive load times, bad music, bad control, or any combination of the above

ill piss on it every chance i get, grab my PC copy and play
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.psx2central.com%2Fmm%2Fpd.jpg&hash=69b451e1166104f2d1c016e687415456900d1226)
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 24, 2002, 07:19:30 AM
PC copy? Did I miss something? Was it on the PC and if so  - why would you play it on the PC?

By the way - if it contains any of the things you mentioned, I\'ll join you in the bitch fest.
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: alienmagic on October 24, 2002, 07:52:34 AM
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Originally posted by mm
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.psx2central.com%2Fmm%2Fpd.jpg&hash=69b451e1166104f2d1c016e687415456900d1226)


***Seeing that makes alienmagic wish he still had a working Saturn***

:alien:
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: mm on October 24, 2002, 08:16:45 AM
i prefer the PC version cause it runs faster

not in FPS per say, but in overall game speed.  plus the graphics are a bit cleaner

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shinforce.com%2Fclassified%2Fpix-pc-panzerdragoon.jpg&hash=475cab8e1551ad3d1961dc952467369b37225e5e)
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: AlteredBeast on October 24, 2002, 09:21:37 AM
I doubt it will contain any of those, mm. But I am sure you will find something else to bitch about. Every preview about this game has been very positive about the clarity and depth of graphics, great sound and orchaestration, tried and true gameplay (with new real-time morphing), etc.

Though, I heard the second boss\'s left tentacle has a tip that is almost noticeably blurry. Some say it may even affect gameplay!! Damn you XBox!


Eric Jacob
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: mm on October 24, 2002, 09:24:27 AM
ummm, a few blurry textures and RAMPANT blurring (ex. rallisport)  are two different animals

im supposed to find something to bitch about (i do it will all games, mind you).  thats the point of being disgruntled
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: Ashford on October 24, 2002, 09:42:02 AM
Play PD Saga and you\'ll forget about the shooter...

I can\'t believe you don\'t own a copy, Clip...

And I can\'t believe SonyFan didn\'t know it was released in the US...
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: mm on October 24, 2002, 09:56:00 AM
not everyone can be the uber-hardcore-l33t gamer you are, ash

:P
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: AlteredBeast on October 24, 2002, 10:03:17 AM
Right around that time, SonyFan was still sucking it up in Leisure Suit Larry 5. He can\'t be bothered to remember anything else but Sierra\'s goodtimes. :P

Saga is truly excellent. One of the best RPGs I have played. Unfortunately, I sold my copy and it is price prohibitive to get it it back.


Eric Jacob
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 24, 2002, 09:33:16 PM
No, I don\'t own a copy. :( I\'m in the process of finding one and if I do, I\'m willing to pay almost whatever it takes to get it.
That and Burning Rangers...

*sigh*
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: Ryu on October 24, 2002, 09:37:23 PM
Speaking of which Clip, I\'ve been updating my Saturn search quite a bit and I\'ll be updating it in my journal.  I\'ll post a few ebay auction links for ya to help you out also.  I got in touch with someone to get me the Japanese import of Guardian Heroes for about 25.  This stuff is coming in really cheap.  I\'ll update my journal now with my current findings.  PM me if you find anything that might help further our Saturn collections.  :)
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on October 24, 2002, 09:40:58 PM
Sound\'s great Ryu.

I\'m lookin\' for a non-import copy of Guardian Hero\'s, but if I have to , I\'ll settle for the JP version.  

The main problem is finding the games at a reasonable price and in good condition.
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: Ashford on October 25, 2002, 10:27:12 AM
I can\'t believe Clip doesn\'t own a copy of Guardian Herpes for Saturn...

:p
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: Ashford on October 25, 2002, 10:27:44 AM
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Read my last message again...
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on October 25, 2002, 04:26:55 PM
:laughing:
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: Samwise on October 26, 2002, 01:38:39 AM
I\'ve got herpes, it\'s not good.
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: SonyFan on October 26, 2002, 02:43:33 AM
God, whatever you do don\'t the Omen rape you... this whole forum will be infected inside a week. = /
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: alienmagic on October 26, 2002, 06:04:25 AM
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Originally posted by Ashford
I can\'t believe Clip doesn\'t own a copy of Guardian Herpes for Saturn...

:p


Yikes! Is there some kind of Guardian Cream for that? :p

:alien:
Title: New Panzer Dragoon Orta Screens!
Post by: Kurt Angle on October 26, 2002, 11:58:58 AM
Herpes!

OMG that is just nasty.