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Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Black Samurai on October 05, 2002, 06:16:08 PM
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Taken from HERE (http://english.pravda.ru/world/2002/10/05/37771.html)
Sensation: Cities Found on the Moon!
Reasonable activity of an alien civilization showed up unexpectedly close to us. However, we were not psychologically ready for it

We still come across publications trying to find an answer to the following question: Are we alone in the universe? At the same time, the presence of reasoning beings has been detected close to our home, on the Moon. However, this discovery was immediately classified as secret, as it is so incredible that it even might shake the already existing social principles, reports Russia\'s newspaper Vecherny Volgograd.

Here is an extract from the official press-release: “NASA scientists and engineers participating in exploration of Mars and the Moon reported the results of their discoveries at a briefing at the Washington National Press Club on March 21, 1996. It was announced for the first time that man-made structures and objects have been discovered on the Moon.” The scientists spoke rather cautiously and evasively about these objects, with the exception of an UFO. They always mentioned that the man-made objects are possible, and stated the information was still under study and official results will be published later.

It was mentioned at the briefing as well that the Soviet Union used to own some photo materials proving the presence of such activity on the Moon. And, although it wasn’t identified what kind of activity it was, thousands of photo- and video materials from the Apollos and the Clementine space station showed many parts on the lunar surface where this activity and its traces were perfectly evident. The video films and photos made by US astronauts during the Apollo program were demonstrated at the briefing. People were extremely surprised why the materials hadn’t been presented to the public earlier. NASA specialists answered: “It was difficult to forecast the reaction of people to information that some creatures had been or still are on the Moon. In addition, there were some other reasons to it, which were beyond the control of NASA.”

Specialist for lunar studies Richard Hoagland says that NASA is still trying to alter photo materials before they are published in public catalogues and files. They do some retouching or are partially refocussing them while copying. Some investigators, Hoagland is among them, suppose that an extraterrestrial race had used the Moon as a terminal station during their activity on the Earth. These suggestions are confirmed by the legends and myths of different nations of our planet.

The ruins of lunar cities stretch for many kilometers. Huge domes on massive basements, numerous tunnels, and other constructions cause scientists to reconsider their opinions concerning the Moon. How the Moon appeared and principles of its revolving around the Earth still pose a great problem for scientists.

Some partially destroyed objects on the lunar surface can’t be placed among natural geological formations, as they are of complex organization and geometrical structure. In the upper part of Rima hadley, not far from the place where the Apollo-15 had landed, a construction surrounded by a tall D-shaped wall was discovered. As of now, different artifacts have been discovered in 44 regions. The NASA Goddard Space Flight Center and the Houston Planetary Institute are investigating the regions. Mysterious terrace-shaped excavations of rock have been discovered near the Tiho crater. The concentric hexahedral excavations and the tunnel entry on the terrace side can’t be the results of natural geological processes; instead, they look very much like open cast mines. A transparent dome raised above the crater edge was discovered near the crater Copernicus. The dome is unusual, as it is glows white and blue from the inside. A rather unusual object, which is unusual indeed even for the Moon, was discovered in the upper part of the Factory area. A disk of about 50 meters in diameter stands on a square basement surrounded with walls. In the picture, close to the rhomb, we can also see a dark, round embrasure in the ground, which resembles an entry to an underground caponier. There is a rectangular area between factory and the crater Copernicus, which is 300 meters wide 400 meters long.

Apollo-10 astronauts took a photo (AS10-32-4822) of a one-mile long object called "Castle," which is at the height of 14 kilometers and casts a distinct shadow on the lunar surface. The object seems to consist of several cylindrical units and a large conjunctive unit. The internal porous structure of the Castle is clearly seen in one of the pictures, which gives the impression that some parts of the object are transparent.

As it turned out at the briefing where many NASA scientists were present, when Richard Hoagland had requested originals of the Castle pictures for the second time, no pictures were found at all. They disappeared even from the list of pictures made by the Apollo-10 crew. Only intermediate pictures of the object were found in the archives, which unfortunately don’t depict the internal structure of the object.

When the Apollo-12 crew landed on the lunar surface, they saw that the landing was observed by a half- transparent, pyramidal object. It was hovering just several meters above the lunar surface and shimmered with all the colors of the rainbow against the black sky.

In 1969, when the film about astronauts travelling to the Sea of Storms was demonstrated (the astronauts saw the strange objects once again, which were later called “striped glasses”), NASA finally understood what consequences such kind of control could bring. Astronaut Mitchell answered the question about his feelings after his successful return: “My neck still aches as I had to constantly turn my head around, because we felt we were not alone there. We had no choice but to pray.” Johnston, who worked at the Houston Space Center and studied photos and video materials made during the Apollo program, discussed the artifacts with Richard Hoagland and said that the NASA leadership was awfully annoyed with the great number of anomalous, to put it mildly, objects on the Moon. It was even said that piloted flights to the Moon might be banned.

Investigators are especially interested in ancient structures resembling partially destroyed cities. Photos reveal an astonishingly regular geometry of square and rectangular constructions. They resemble our cities seen from the height of 5-8 kilometers. A mission control specialist commented on the pictures: “Our guys observed ruins of the Lunar cities, transparent pyramids, domes, and God knows what else, which are currently hidden deep inside the NASA safes, and felt like Robinson Crusoe when he suddenly came across prints of bare feet on the sand of the desert island.” What do geologists and scientists say after studying the pictures of lunar cities and other anomalous objects? They say that such objects can’t be natural formations. “We should admit they are artificial, especially the domes and pyramids.” Reasonable activity of an alien civilization showed up unexpectedly close to us. We were not ready for it psychologically, and some people hardly believe they are true even now.


All I have to say is WHAT THE ****!!!
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: clowd on October 05, 2002, 06:25:52 PM
I cant make sense out of this article,  I dont know rather its a joke or what but come one if cities were foudn 0n the moon Im sure it would be on the news and on some major news site like msnbc...

also manmade structures?  as in modern day?

the chances of exterristial life resembling humans are pretty much nill,  not to mention the moon cant support life and there have been no signs that it ever had water on it

EDIT:  This article sounds like just a bunch of paranoid crop circle .com people who think the government is hiding aliens it retrieved from the roswell incident and is hiding photos of alien life on the moon...
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Jerchel on October 05, 2002, 06:30:21 PM
I don\'t know it coudl happen.. I mean people have been there who knows what they could have left.. germs and stuff
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: nataku on October 05, 2002, 06:33:49 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd
the chances of exterristial life resembling humans are pretty much nill,  not to mention the moon cant support life and there have been no signs that it ever had water on it


Ahh, the moon can\'t support HUMAN life. ;)

Anyway, it\'s hard to say if this is a joke or not.  As far as the average joe knows, there are no man-made structures on the moon.  Dunno why that article says otherwise.  Maybe they meant to say they resemble man-made structures.

Even if it is true, the government would try to cover it up.  Stupid government.
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: theomen on October 05, 2002, 06:35:55 PM
interesting article, and since I\'m one of the "i want to believe" people, it\'s a bit of happy news.
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Black Samurai on October 05, 2002, 06:42:22 PM
^^^Same here
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: nO-One on October 05, 2002, 06:42:55 PM
well the thing is, there\'s a whole lot of people out there with pretty darned powerful telescopes that look at the sky every night, including the moon. One would think they would see some of those ancient cities. Unless of course they are on the dark side of the moon, but then of course the astronaughts wouldn\'t have seen\'em either.

So, while undeniably cool the chances of this would be remote.
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: theomen on October 05, 2002, 06:45:14 PM
i was thinking the same thing, about the telescopes.  but since I have never looked through a powerful one, I have no idea how much you can see through one.
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Frank on October 05, 2002, 06:46:11 PM
already been proven....

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmoon.dirmu.com%2Fmooninites.gif&hash=55836d09d7237eb516d8da6dea4a0e5d8ad7fe69)
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Black Samurai on October 05, 2002, 06:47:14 PM
I know I read some where that none of the telescopes on earth are powerful enough to see the actual surface of the moon, in detail.
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: clowd on October 05, 2002, 06:47:28 PM
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Originally posted by Frank
already been proven....

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Na,  these green men built 14k high castles!  Those little guys didnt have that type of manpower
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Black Samurai on October 05, 2002, 06:49:01 PM
^^True, however, their vertical leap is unmeasurable.
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Frank on October 05, 2002, 06:52:18 PM
and nothing can withstand the Quad-Laser:

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Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Jerchel on October 05, 2002, 06:56:12 PM
Hmm. I need a telescope
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Kurt Angle on October 06, 2002, 02:05:55 AM
I will take this info with a pinch of salt until proven.
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Darth Joyda on October 06, 2002, 04:18:01 AM
Ironic that I saw Signs yesterday.

I\'m not *ready* to believe. I know there are UFO\'s out there... But an ancient Extra Terrestrial civilization on the surface of Moon?

You gotta be kidding.
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Darth Joyda on October 06, 2002, 04:20:04 AM
Plus:

Wouldn\'t there be any "Breaking" News-casts at CNN?

I am confused.
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on October 06, 2002, 04:50:31 AM
I don\'t believe in UFOs or extra terrestrial life, but many people replies to these topics saying that "it\'s impossible to live in the moon \'cause there isn\'t oxygen" or "There cannot be live in Jupiter due to there is not water" or something like that.

We use oxygen and water cause our life is adapted to that. There are many life-form that use other kinda sources to live (dioxid in plants for example). So, I can imagine that if any civilization lives in Jupiter or whatever you wanna say, they will be adapted to that planet and their life would be almost impossible in our Earth.
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: nO-One on October 06, 2002, 06:51:27 AM
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Originally posted by Adan
So, I can imagine that if any civilization lives in Jupiter or whatever you wanna say, they will be adapted to that planet and their life would be almost impossible in our Earth.

Well I highly doubt there\'s life on Jupiter since there\'s no surface on there. Jupiter is a gas giant.

And the moon can\'t sustain life either since there\'s....well nothing there. But it is true life doesn\'t have to be as we know it, life adapts to it\'s surrounings, hell Venus is a virtual hell but there could be life there, since life has been found on the only places that come close to being like Venus on Earth.
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on October 06, 2002, 07:09:38 AM
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Originally posted by nO-One

Well I highly doubt there\'s life on Jupiter since there\'s no surface on there. Jupiter is a gas giant.


Write the planet of the universe you want instead of Jupiter.
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Titan on October 06, 2002, 07:11:02 AM
It\'s possible. Not by humans but by an alien race.

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I don\'t know it coudl happen.. I mean people have been there who knows what they could have left.. germs and stuff


Unlikely. Some germs need oxygen. They would die. Second off, it is cold as hell on the moon during the \'night\'. They\'d die. Besides, evolution doesn\'t work that fast. And one more thing, they were wearing sealed space suits to the chances are extrememly slim.
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Titan on October 06, 2002, 07:18:16 AM
A face on Mars. What could have built this?

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fmars.jpl.nasa.gov%2Fmgs%2Fmsss%2Ffacepage%2Fpio.gif&hash=bc3c1113f47d7f2f4d6ec33f5335782634868287)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seds.org%2F%7Espider%2Fspider%2FMars%2FPics%2Fmarsface.jpg&hash=a487caeb045a24cb177df5d01c3065f37196bd31)

Pyramids? Canals?
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fftp.seds.org%2Fpub%2Fimages%2Fplanets%2Fmars%2Fmarspyra.gif&hash=1278f375f4b5b5e8e560e6b3e022ee4beac765be)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fftp.seds.org%2Fpub%2Fimages%2Fplanets%2Fmars%2Fview_n.gif&hash=a3045c35f754fd21c325f36b64395d98166c70d7)
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Titan on October 06, 2002, 07:20:22 AM
My internet is still being gay about it so here\'s where the rest of the pics are.

http://www.seds.org/~spider/spider/Mars/marsface.html
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: GmanJoe on October 06, 2002, 07:25:22 AM
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.seds.org%2F%7Espider%2Fspider%2FMars%2FPics%2Fmarsface.jpg&hash=a487caeb045a24cb177df5d01c3065f37196bd31)

We have "rock faces" all over our own planet that was not touched by humans. Why should this concern us?
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Titan on October 06, 2002, 07:28:14 AM
I don\'t know of any that look this good though.
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: GmanJoe on October 06, 2002, 07:37:19 AM
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fastro.wsu.edu%2Fworthey%2Fastro%2Fhtml%2Fim-indian-heads%2Frock-face.jpg&hash=19a0bdb3e7f4c343ff2f487e8970b9eaeb93bf69)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fastro.wsu.edu%2Fworthey%2Fastro%2Fhtml%2Fim-indian-heads%2Fold-man-mountain.jpg&hash=86e8c7993a2765149e3e5ff00e5e3a70d95d7898)

Here is the famous monkey face of Mars....but at a different light angle.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fastro.wsu.edu%2Fworthey%2Fastro%2Fhtml%2Fim-indian-heads%2Fmarsface3_mgs.jpg&hash=5f752e690a4782e26e695aa95cc6600bc84501ed)

But just so you know, Mars does also have a smiley face. :)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fastro.wsu.edu%2Fworthey%2Fastro%2Fhtml%2Fim-indian-heads%2Fmarshappyface_mgs.jpg&hash=9fbf66c6d1580e859f8028007bde3496b1144f80)
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Titan on October 06, 2002, 07:39:29 AM
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
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(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fastro.wsu.edu%2Fworthey%2Fastro%2Fhtml%2Fim-indian-heads%2Fold-man-mountain.jpg&hash=86e8c7993a2765149e3e5ff00e5e3a70d95d7898)


Your saying that these are natural? Isn\'t it possible that they were made before written records?
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: GmanJoe on October 06, 2002, 07:47:14 AM
Here\'s another one.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.iot.ntnu.no%2F%7Emkaut%2FPhotos%2FNorway-holidays_01%2Fphotos%2Ff045_31%2520-%2520cruise%2520on%2520Geirangerfjorden%2C%2520face-like%2520rock.jpg&hash=96a1cf6b0b5de9642a3254a4c6976b2bae058cdf)

What I\'m saying is....you can look at a cloud and see what you want to see.....a face? an animal? a car? It\'s all up to you. Same things can be done to mountains or rock formations. The play of light can reveal a face or the profile of a mountain can look like a man is sleeping on his back. It all depends on one\'s perspective...literally. You may see a face on a rock....but I could be on the other side of the rock and see...a rock.

I\'m merely pointing out other explanations. I\'m not trying to make you a non-believer. But you should take other factors into account.
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: GmanJoe on October 06, 2002, 07:50:37 AM
Here is the picture of the "sleeping giant"

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fastro.wsu.edu%2Fworthey%2Fastro%2Fhtml%2Fim-indian-heads%2Fsleeping-giant-1.jpg&hash=a1046f77f2f015d454b7775f55dbef4605e635cd)

Here\'s another rock face.

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.forteantimes.com%2Fgallery%2Fimages%2Frockface.jpg&hash=7696829cc6ab4334dd1059cac52123f135cd298a)
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on October 06, 2002, 08:02:55 AM
Titan, they\'re only natural effects. Your mind tells you that it may be done by any intelligent animal, but it\'s only a coincidence.
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: on October 06, 2002, 08:49:02 AM
Itsw coicindince that the face on the moon appears like that. Some say it was actually a footprint left from the astronauts first entering the moon.

I highly doubt that there is any *REAL* lifeforms on the moon. The reason is because there is no atmosphere on the moon (Is that right?) therefore no chance anything could live on it. I believe on little things like maybe microscopic things living on there but human-figure things- no way.

I do however believe in aliens somewhat. I believe they are out there but not so close as to the moon. Probably lightyears away. If space goes on forever, isnt it just plain ignorant to say that we are the only living forms out there?

My 2 cents...
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Post by: Darth Joyda on October 06, 2002, 08:56:49 AM
Get this: Perhaps the aliens had space-suits similar to the ones we wear? Could it be a possibility that the ancient cities located on the moon would have had domes supporting life and oxygen?
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: EmperorRob on October 06, 2002, 09:32:30 AM
ON THE MOON NERDS HAVE THEIR PANTS PULLED DOWN AND THEY ARE SPANKED WITH MOON ROCKS

Frank you are the man and I\'m surprised Luke didn\'t chime in as well.

BTW New Aqua Teen episodes all next month!!!!11
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: kopking on October 06, 2002, 11:34:46 AM
hmmmmmm, not sure if believe this..... intresting read though...


good point, that there not man made structures, cos not made by men
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: on October 06, 2002, 02:49:13 PM
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
Get this: Perhaps the aliens had space-suits similar to the ones we wear? Could it be a possibility that the ancient cities located on the moon would have had domes supporting life and oxygen?


How exactly would they get that oxeygen there? I dont see them carrying around tanks and watering their trees... :D


Im just in the debating mood today :)
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Post by: Darth Joyda on October 07, 2002, 01:11:50 AM
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Originally posted by Spudz


How exactly would they get that oxeygen there? I dont see them carrying around tanks and watering their trees... :D


Im just in the debating mood today :)


I can only offer you a theory, Spudz. It might be possible to create an artificial atmosphere to a planet with more advanced technology.

Who knows? :)

One can create space-stations - so why not stations to the surface of the Moon, ya?
Title: Intelligent Life on the Moon!?!?
Post by: Troglodyte on October 07, 2002, 09:48:27 PM
There\'s this song by the EvinRudes that goes "I hope there aren\'t any Indians onthe Moon."

It\'s all about how the white man all oppressed the Indians in the Americas and how we\'d probably do the same thing to aliens on the moon.  Humans suck.