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Title: Which is worst for Society
Post by: clowd on October 31, 2002, 02:26:03 PM
PTI (Pardon the Interruption on ESPN) had a bit on this,  just want to have your thoughts

Grand Theft Auto Vice City

Jackass the movie
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: Titan on October 31, 2002, 02:28:42 PM
Are you against the two or something?
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: Kurt Angle on October 31, 2002, 02:48:28 PM
Jackass is worst, because the guy is actually doing the crazy stuff in real life. Vice City is just a game.
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: Bozco on October 31, 2002, 03:14:55 PM
I think neither have a negative effect on society, except for the occasional Jackass copycat.
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: ##RaCeR## on October 31, 2002, 03:58:52 PM
Jackass.

He has a massive following here in Australia. Kids are now doing all kinds of crazy dangerous stuff here.

At least in VC its not real.
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: shockwaves on October 31, 2002, 04:16:30 PM
According to Tony Kornheiser it\'s GTA, while Michael Wilbon
says it\'s Jackass, if I remember right.  I think none are bad for society myself, but the closest is Jackass.
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on November 01, 2002, 03:26:20 AM
None. Societies cannot be transformed, society is unique and the changes are real, but you cannot say a game can transform a society.
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: Living-In-Clip on November 01, 2002, 05:01:40 AM
Neither is bad . Idiots are bad for society and if these people copy either one of those media\'s, it is what I like to call "natrual selection".
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: CHIZZY on November 01, 2002, 07:19:53 AM
third option:


religion....


/me dives into cave and rolls a boulder in front...
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: CygnusXI on November 01, 2002, 07:25:57 AM
Idiots who ape the crap.

...and only Islam Chizz:p

*Moves Chizzy\'s puny boulder and kicks his ass out*
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 01, 2002, 07:35:02 AM
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Originally posted by shockwaves
According to Tony Kornheiser it\'s GTA, while Michael Wilbon
says it\'s Jackass, if I remember right.  I think none are bad for society myself, but the closest is Jackass.


One of the two explained that in a Theatre in New Jersey, they had to stop the showing of the movie because kids were throwing stuff and the screen and pissing on the wall. I mean, come on, what the ****? What kind of dumbshit pees on the wall at a theater?

See Yuz.
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: kopking on November 01, 2002, 12:35:31 PM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Neither is bad . Idiots are bad for society and if these people copy either one of those media\'s, it is what I like to call "natrual selection".





this is very true....!!!!!



to be honest i love both of these!! jackass rocks in my book, i find it very funny but you are hardly gonna see me swimming in sewers!!


i think the worst thing in society is when somone dont take the blame, and it " oh it this tv programme" or " this computer game made my child do this" stand up and be counted for the stuff you do
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: on November 01, 2002, 01:01:33 PM
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
What kind of dumbshit pees on the wall at a theater?


The herd mentality is a scary one.  Young men in large groups can pretty easily get out of hand.  I wouldn\'t let my kid play GTA or watch Jackass until he/she is 16 or so.  That\'s the root of the problem - bad parenting.  I admit, some kids can watch anything and play any games and nothing bad will ever happen, but you mix that with low IQs, domestic violence in the home, gangster parents, etc...it contributes to the fukked-up morality the child already lives with.  

You develop your core personality from the people you\'re with when you\'re a very young child - the parents in most cases.  Bad parents spawn more bad parents.  A lot of people DO realize that they had bad childhoods and do raise great kids.  

It\'s a hard issue to deal with.  As much as we\'d like to somehow prohibit certain peole from having children - we can\'t.  No one better tell me what I can and can\'t do with my body, and I\'ll give others the same respect.

We have several great methods of birth control, but people still won\'t use it, and it\'s not effective 100% of the time...not to mention the right-wingers who still throw a shit fit when people hand out condoms at school.

And so on, and so on.  Bottom line - parents need to pay attention to what the hell their kids are doing.
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: Titan on November 01, 2002, 01:15:50 PM
A game is a game and a movie isn\'t a movie. People who reinact things from them are just really stupid and crave attention.
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: jp6666 on November 02, 2002, 06:35:26 AM
I think Jackass should not exist ! its pointless and stupid ! it really sucks and has a bad influence on kids ! here where i live and some kids seeing the movie they trashed the theater ! and i don\'t even live in a big town wich is weird ! I don\'t understand how can people like that and laught at that ? you got to be out of your mind !!!1
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Post by: Bozco on November 02, 2002, 08:45:17 AM
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Originally posted by jp6666
I don\'t understand how can people like that and laught at that ? you got to be out of your mind !!!1



Your opinion must = everyones opinion.
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: jp6666 on November 02, 2002, 11:34:17 AM
Bozco could you explain that please ,
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: on November 02, 2002, 12:24:01 PM
None- ONly this thread could corrupt a society...
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: Titan on November 02, 2002, 05:30:32 PM
jp6666, its just a movie. It was created to entertain and Jackass entertains me. I get to see other people, besides myself, make complete asses out of themselves.

EDIT: I was talking about the show. And you don\'t have to worry about Jackass anymore, the movie is the end.
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: Bozco on November 03, 2002, 06:05:14 AM
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Originally posted by jp6666
Bozco could you explain that please ,


A lot of people find in entertaining and aren\'t out of their mind.
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: Living-In-Clip on November 03, 2002, 06:23:19 AM
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! it really sucks and has a bad influence on kids !


If a kid is influenced by a movie, than the kid is already mentally disturbed. I grew up on horror / slasher flicks, yet I don\'t go around killing people. Why? Because my mother always reminded me that it was not real and not to mention I had enough common sense to know TV from reality.

If a kid see\'s a stunt on Jackass and tries to do it and ends up killing themselves - good riddance.

Natrual selection.
Chances are if they are that stupid, than they wasn\'t really goin\' to help the world anyways.
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: Titan on November 03, 2002, 07:09:33 AM
True dat. Only really stupid kids would do something they saw in a movie or a game. I wouldn\'t do anything like that.
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: kopking on November 03, 2002, 08:33:33 AM
peep done this kinda stuff before jackass, i know ive done some of the lesser stupid stuff, shopping trolleys, jumping of stuff etc etc...


u make me laugh as if before jackass none of this was on video etc, maybe u should check out cky, crap, boob, number 2, toy machine welcome to hell etc vids
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: PS2_-'_'-_PS2 on November 03, 2002, 12:05:20 PM
hehe, me and my freinds are making a jackass type movie we have about 2 minutes of footage, its all so fake though especially coz when someone hits someonme else with a baseball bat they start laughing and chasing after them (they were padded with pillows) =]
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: clowd on November 03, 2002, 07:32:00 PM
My thoughts on Jackass the movie

How is watching people hurt themselves funny?  What type of society is this the #1 movie in?  Yes some can watch this and not be affected by it but there is others who will try to copy what they see in the film.  I hear people everywhere talking about how how they want to reenact events that happened in the movie calling it \'cool\' and so on. I also personally know someone who set their brother on fire reenacting a scene in one of the Jackass tv episodes which destroyed most of the muscle tissue in his brothers leg.  After he caught on fire the other brother laughed at him for a few minutes like they did in the jack ass episode.... I just feel sorry for anyone who spent $7 to watch garbage.

Grand Theft Auto Vice City

A few months ago I was at the local Blockbuster,  a kid ran by saying "I like games where you can kill people"  Parents need to be tougher on teens under 17 getting their hands on games like this.  By the way,  what happened to games like SWAT where you were the good guy?  Playing a game like this teaches you to rebel against authority and the like.  

There is nothing good to come out of both of these \'entertainment products\'

Anybody watch the 20/20 on the guy (about 20) who reenacted a suicide in teh game Everquest?  These games affect people more then you think.

Which is worst?  They both are bottom of the junkyard filth but in the long run Jackass will do more damage because of being wider spread and the use of real people for its idiotic stunts
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: kopking on November 04, 2002, 01:49:02 PM
naaaa jackass rock!!!!
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: Titan on November 04, 2002, 02:16:18 PM
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A few months ago I was at the local Blockbuster,  a kid ran by saying "I like games where you can kill people"  Parents need to be tougher on teens under 17 getting their hands on games like this.


Its up to the parents to decide whether or not to allow their kids to play M rated games. I\'m almost 16 and i\'ve been getting M rated games since I was in 5th grade. Does that make my parents responsible? If the parents feel that their kid could play the game, let the parents be parents.

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By the way,  what happened to games like SWAT where you were the good guy?  Playing a game like this teaches you to rebel against authority and the like.


No it doesn\'t teach you to rebel against authority. Those kind of games allow you to be the bad guy for once and kill people and steal cars without the consequences of doing such acts. They take you away from reality and let you do something that you can\'t do in real life, like shoot gangs with guns, get into gang wars and shit like that. If you reinact something from a movie, you are one twisted soul.
Title: Which is worse for Society
Post by: kopking on November 04, 2002, 02:18:55 PM
wait a minute before there was any films, there wasnt any violence


*end sarcasm voice*