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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: GigaShadow on November 06, 2002, 05:36:45 AM
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Woot!!!! With Al Gore out campaigning its no wonder the Dems lost. :laughing:
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its the end of the world as we know it....
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I voted for the winning team. :D
Life is good.
All liberal whiny bitches move to Canada. :p
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GmanJoe,
Amen brotha! The libs will really turn on the nastiness now. It should be a lot of fun.
Ace
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And he opened the 6th seal and the sky was as black as night and the moon turned to blood....
oh Good God looks like you lot have given (Captain 1 brain Cell)Full power to do anything he wants.
bye bye Iraq.. Iran... the Middle East... and most of North Africa and Europe.
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Watch what you say. Glasgow could be next on the list. ;)
Ace
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Originally posted by Ace
Watch what you say. Glasgow could be next on the list. ;)
Ace
come on then !
i\'ll be the drunken mad b@stard wave\'n the captured USMC Captain Uniform aroud my head.
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People are so hyped about Iraq. Bush is bluffing to force Iraq to open up to inspectors again but this time without hindrance from Iraq like last time : "You may not inspect this facility until next week!" Plenty of time to move whatever weapons or chemical warfare stuff to another location.
He\'s had the green light to attack but hasn\'t. The UN is pussyfooting around, as usual, about this whole thing. Bush wants Iraqi scientists\' families out of the country while they are interviewed by the inspectors about Hussein\'s intentions.
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Who cares. Bomb Iraq or not.
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WORD
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The Dems are in full excuse mode now. I especially liked when the Dem on CNN Crossfire put the trashcan on his head last night after they lost the Senate seat in Georgia.
Homeland Security was more of a factor then the Democrats wanted to admit. Cleland lost his Senate seat for voting against the bill and Chambliss advertised it 24 hours before the polls opened.
On the same note, both Fox and CNN really need to get their facts straight. Max Cleland is a triple amputee and though he served in Vietnam, he didn\'t lose his limbs there. He lost them in an automobile accident. I loved the quote by an analyst on CNN that said "Cleland served his country and literally left limbs on the battlefield."
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He got that medal for surfing, and that one\'s for darts...
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Originally posted by mm
its the end of the world as we know it....
Yeah...
Damn, this is gonna suck. I just hope that some of the more moderate Republicans have the common sense to not vote with the rest of their party.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Yeah...
Damn, this is gonna suck. I just hope that some of the more moderate Republicans have the common sense to not vote with the rest of their party.
I would watch what you say. The right has an ear out for dissenters like you. Just fair warning. J/k :)
The best thing about it is that a Kennedy lost. Yahoooooo!!!!
Ace
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Bring em on, I\'ll fight them off with my common sense (a powerful weapon they seem to be lacking).
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Not true, democrats are usually the ones that don\'t use fact or common sense they go for the emotion of the people and not for what is right.
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Amen to that...Amen to that.
Common sense is a pretty powerful tool. What a pity that the Republicans lack it.
Well, we\'re all screwed until 2004. Something tells me that some of our chances of getting drafted just went up, I wonder why.
MJSP, a republican?! NO WAY! *rolls eyes*
See Yuz.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Yeah...
Damn, this is gonna suck. I just hope that some of the more moderate Republicans have the common sense to not vote with the rest of their party.
So when you say commen sense, you really mean your buddy democrats?
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And BOZCO opens his trap. Way to be ignorant, bud. You have absolutely no idea as to what you\'re spewing. Then again, who knows. You might just realize that you\'re spewing shit soon enough.
See Yuz.
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I hate democrats. I just hate republicans more.
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
And BOZCO opens his trap. Way to be ignorant, bud. You have absolutely no idea as to what you\'re spewing. Then again, who knows. You might just realize that you\'re spewing shit soon enough.
See Yuz.
And way to be childish. I haven\'t read all his post so I don\'t know exactly what he\'s trying to get across. But I do realize your post is full of shit. GO HUSKERS!
Its quite obvious you go out of your way to attack me.
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Democrats, Republicans, Greens, whatever...
Can\'t we just all agree to like the Buckeyes?
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Changing the subject, NICE JOB!
He\'s a Socialist. Your ignorant ass decided to come out and call him something he wasn\'t. Way to be attentive.
Oh, and back to the Husker thing, nice jab. I\'m glad you can attack my political views by attacking my favorite College Football team. I am in your debt. *rolls eyes*
See Yuz.
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If I remember right I was never even talking to you in the first place. You just went out of your way to attack me because thats who you are. Two can play that if you really want to be an ass. See how shockwaves is cool about it, and I have not one thing against him. And we can\'t all be attentive when talking to people, doing math work, and trying to read some post.
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Well there\'s a simple solution to that. Don\'t do the math.
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Originally posted by Bozco
If I remember right I was never even talking to you in the first place. You just went out of your way to attack me because thats who you are. Two can play that if you really want to be an ass. See how shockwaves is cool about it, and I have not one thing against him. And we can\'t all be attentive when talking to people, doing math work, and trying to read some post.
*sheds a tear*
Think I\'m personally attacking you? Good. Because I probably am. Then again, I seem to "personally attack" a lot of people here. There\'s only so much I can do. I don\'t care if you were talking to somebody else, anyway, I decided to jump in. Got a problem with it? That\'s too bad.
I don\'t see how you attacking my college football team isn\'t personally attacking me, as well. Way to try and show your maturity by fighting fire with fire.
Math homework? Meh, can\'t attack that. Go Math.
See Yuz.
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This sucks SO much. Dubya has almost absolute power now. I don\'t see how that can be a good thing for ANYONE.
I bet the Religious Right is one of MANY organizations chomping at the bit right now.
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Some of you people are delusional.
If GWB is bad for the country, what was WJC to this country? A disaster? I wonder how many of you who are bitching went out and voted. (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reprovideo.com%2Fpma_images%2Fnono.gif&hash=f18befbe2e1f0c22e82a02c0071a4a9f2b02577b)
Ace
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Originally posted by Ace
Some of you people are delusional.
If GWB is bad for the country, what was WJC to this country? A disaster? I wonder how many of you who are bitching went out and voted. (https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.reprovideo.com%2Fpma_images%2Fnono.gif&hash=f18befbe2e1f0c22e82a02c0071a4a9f2b02577b)
Ace
I can just bitch from the sidelines seeing that i am a foreign national :D.
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Why do these closet Dems always fear the religious right? The Republicans are not made up of religious fanatics. This has not been the case since the days of Newt. Yes the Christian Coalition is traditionally Republican, but they are a minority within the party. After all, both Dems and Repubs went nuts over the Pledge of Allegiance ruling in California. The Dems have their own share on oddballs ie. Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson.
The thing I can\'t stand about the Dems is the fact that they want the Federal Government to be involved in everything.
Also, I wouldn\'t be too worried about a draft. The US has a professional army, not one filled with draftees. The only way I see a draft happening is if the US itself is attacked by a major country like China. Some of the more liberal types on this board need to come back to reality.
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Why are some college ROTC students already being called into duty? Someone needs a lot of foot soldiers. More than the country already has on active duty and this is BEFORE any official shots have even been fired.
Despite what you may believe, this "war" is going to require a massive land presence in a country that, for the most part, hates us.
As for the religious right. They are one of Bush\'s largest supporters and they have an influence on many of decisions. Do you think stem cell research would be so hampered if Clinton/Gore/McCain were in office? Would a religious extremist(who under different circumstances could be a member of the western world\'s own "Taliban") like Ashcroft be in office? Jackson and Sharpton are idiots who are quick to pull the race card and yell victims. They have close to NO pull in Washington because, for the most part, the people who follow their idiotic ramblings don\'t even vote. The religious right dumps massive amounts of money into political campaigns and a large percentage of them vote.
Clinton was not a good president; but he was far from a bad president. He is blasted by right-wingers as being a liar and having poor character, yet the fact that Bush continues to stretch the truth is laughed off and ignored.
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I voted, and James can\'t vote, he\'s like 16. As for Clinton, I think he was a good president. Certainly better than the first Bush, and miles ahead of Reagan or the current Bush. I wasn\'t alive for anything before that, so I won\'t speak to any of it. Just look at the economy. We have had 4 presidents in the time period I named, 1 democrat. Strangely, the economy was good during the time of that one democrat, and for the most part, struggling during the times of each of the republicans. Clinton led us through a time of peace and prosperity, and will be remembered for that. Bush will be remembered as a moron, I guarantee it.
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Clinton benefitted from Bush Sr\'s administration. It takes 5 to 6 years for a president\'s economic plan to take affect and Clinton got the glory of Bush\'s work. Ya see, Reagan spent a lot of money during his term. When Bush took over, he had to cut of lot of spending, which in turn caused the economy to slow down. It was slowing down anyway due to Reagan\'s enormous debt he built up.
When Bush took over, he made a number of economic decisions that were painful in the short term but was actually better for the long term. If he had been re-elected, he would have benefitted from his administration\'s work. Unfortunately, Perot ran for Pres and took a lot of votes away from Bush.
Clinton won and the economy went up. Why? Bush Sr.
Now the economy is on its way down. It would have no matter who won - Bush Jr or Gore. Who\'s to blame. Clinton. :D
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Good god you\'re an idiot. That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
Alright, enough of the insults. There were presidents before Reagan, and they were republicans. Horray for Inflation.
Giving Bush Sr. Credit is just dumb. Tell me, WHAT did Bush do to **** up the economy, then make it great? That\'s insulting to say that Bush was the entire reason as to why the economy was so great. And it\'s just as insulting to say that Clinton was also the man that made it bad. Absolutely insulting.
See Yuz.
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People forget that when Reagan was President, he was up against a Democratic Majority in both the House and Senate. While Reagan wanted to cut taxes, he ALSO wanted to cut spending. But big spending Democrats wouldn\'t allow that.
Also, all the Reagan detractors were out during the good first years who said all of those horrible reports when the tax cut was put in place. At first it seemed the Dims were correct, but the economy as people have noted takes time to react. So, when businesses began to take advantage of the tax cut, revenue actually INCREASED. The deficit came from Dims who simply didn\'t want to cut their precious programs.
As for the current economy, Clinton had something Bush Sr. didn\'t have, the "New Economy". Specifically the tech industry. Sky high stock, IPOs running a muck, and companies that...were NOT making money. This created a bubble that, basically burst RIGHT when Clinton left office. Didn\'t matter if it was Gore or Bush who was President. They would\'ve faced a recession by the excess and the terrible business models many of these dotcoms used.
Also, on the case on the war against terrorism, Clinton was litterally HANDED Osama Bin Laden. But no, being politically correct, can\'t take him at the time. His little Afganistan bomb and Sudanis "pharmacy" factory that we have no idea if it was this, really didn\'t help stop terrorism. Not to mention reduction in defense and tying the hands of the CIA (like making them not use certain people because they weren\'t "goody goody"). Now, unlike many right wingers, I\'m not saying it would\'ve prevented 9/11. But it certainly exasperated the intel problem that lead to 9/11.
Oh, and all you peaceniks who don\'t want us to attack Iraq because they haven\'t attacked us or isn\'t in our national interest? Where were you when Clinton went into Kosovo? Milosolvic, while evil, didn\'t kill as many people as Sudam (who slaughtered a lot more of his own people to stay in power then Milosolvic ever did) and Kosovo didn\'t have anything that would interest our nation.
As for the UN, I could give a crap what France (who would surrender to a poodle) cares about our actions. The only thing I care about, is our security.
So, I\'m glad Republicans now control the House and Senate. I believe the nation is heading in the right direction. Wish there wasn\'t so many idiots in California that made California controlled by Democrats (and in turn, isolating California from the rest of the nation), but, a silverlining here, when California is forced into bankruptcy due to Democratic mismangment, the rest of the nation\'s Republicans can point to us as an example of what the Democratic Party is about.
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
Good god you\'re an idiot. That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
Alright, enough of the insults.
Seriously, learn how to post without attacking people.
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Originally posted by Simchoy
Also, on the case on the war against terrorism, Clinton was litterally HANDED Osama Bin Laden. But no, being politically correct, can\'t take him at the time. His little Afganistan bomb and Sudanis "pharmacy" factory that we have no idea if it was this, really didn\'t help stop terrorism. Not to mention reduction in defense and tying the hands of the CIA (like making them not use certain people because they weren\'t "goody goody"). Now, unlike many right wingers, I\'m not saying it would\'ve prevented 9/11. But it certainly exasperated the intel problem that lead to 9/11.
Oh, and all you peaceniks who don\'t want us to attack Iraq because they haven\'t attacked us or isn\'t in our national interest? Where were you when Clinton went into Kosovo? Milosolvic, while evil, didn\'t kill as many people as Sudam (who slaughtered a lot more of his own people to stay in power then Milosolvic ever did) and Kosovo didn\'t have anything that would interest our nation.
Hey, way to neglect the fact that Reagan and Bush Sr. practically MADE Osama and Sadam. Giving them the financial and military backing that got them started. You can\'t point the finger at Clinton and say that (in essence) 9/11 could have been prevented without pointing a flashing neon arrow at his two predecessors.
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Exactly, they created the machine that is now attacking us and anyone that shares similar views. WHat did they decide to do instead? Go after General Manuel Noriega, a man who posed very little threat at all except to his own people. Which probably would have ended up over throwing him anyway. Remember the great war on drugs? Look where that went, the money they made on dealing and fighting drugs went to these two terrors in the midwest.
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Man, I\'m done with this arguement for now. There is too much that pisses me off too much, and that I, quite frankly, find incredibly ignorant. If anyone actually wants to hear what I have to say, just IM me, so I can focus on one thing at a time.
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You can focus on one thing at a time in here as well, what is the difference?
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With issues I feel strongly about, it is easier if I can talk to someone in real time. It is much easier to get points across, and make sure I am understanding the people correctly.
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^^^I definately agree with that.
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Originally posted by Bozco
Seriously, learn how to post without attacking people.
YOU SUCK.
I have attacked you. Go ahead and cry like you did last time.
Anyway, like Tony, this just pisses me off too much to say anything worth noting. Republicans as a whole frustrate me to no end.
So, in summary -- Bozco...*rolls eyes*. And republicans as a whole -- sorry, but the winning of everything and then the rubbing it in, well, just pisses me off. They\'re just really BAD here in Nebraska. Politicize everything, I mean, an ordinance to have 2 new fire stations in my hometown built was turned down because the leading republican in the city turned it into a political issue.
See Yuz.
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Well I\'m done with this thread. Too much crap being thrown around on both sides to stay in it.
One last thing/s before I go, never said Reagan was perfect did I? The war on drugs was a failure, and we did aid the Afgans against the Soviets which yes, a few of them became the Taliban. However, the reason we helped them was to fight a common enemy, the Soviets. If we didn\'t abandon them after the war, the Taliban wouldn\'t have risen to power. As for Saddam, this is in the Bush Sr. admistration whom I\'m not all that fond of. Particularly, not finishing the job in Iraq in the first place. Still, even after this, Clinton did little, or worse, when the problems arisen. And letting go of Osama AFTER he bombed the embassies (after CLEAR evidence that it was him) is clearly unexcussable.
And again, never said Republicans are all great and are perfect. Just that, I find myselfs agreeing with them more, and I see less corruption compared to the Democrats.
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^^^Less corruption?! Thats funny. Its pretty much a given that for the most part BOTH parties are corrupt; but the fact that more big businesses lobby on the side of the republicans IMO makes them more corrupt. I just don\'t think that Acme Oil or AAA Cigs has the american public\'s best interest in mind.
This is COMPETELY off topic but I thought I would add it. The thing that really sucks about the American governental system is that its main problem is in charge of fixing it. Anyone else see a conflict of interest? Thats like trying to treat a stab wound with a knife. It only makes the situation worse.
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
Good god you\'re an idiot. That has to be the dumbest thing I have ever heard.
Alright, enough of the insults. There were presidents before Reagan, and they were republicans. Horray for Inflation.
Giving Bush Sr. Credit is just dumb. Tell me, WHAT did Bush do to **** up the economy, then make it great? That\'s insulting to say that Bush was the entire reason as to why the economy was so great. And it\'s just as insulting to say that Clinton was also the man that made it bad. Absolutely insulting.
See Yuz.
That\'s the problem with you - you\'re actually ignorant about economics and how long it takes for an administration to take affect on the economy. It\'s not an overnight affect - duh. From reading your post, I can tell that you\'re either quite young or just not very smart. I\'d wager that you\'re not very smart.
Anyway, Nebraska needs to upgrade their education. Their product of ignorance has reared its ugly head in the name of ROL James. They should have taught you this in high school. Shame. Ask your parents for some information next time. Mmmm-kay?
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1. I apologized.
2. I\'m a Junior in High School
3. Nebraska is rated in the Top 5 in Student Education statewise in the United States.
4. I\'m taking an Economics course right now.
You never did tell me what Senior did in order to stimulate the economy. Is there a reason as to why he refused to bring up the economy during his re-election campaign, and basically avoided it altogether? Hell, one of Clinton\'s slogans during the \'92 race was "It\'s the Economy, Stupid". Come on.
Time for School. I wonder why every time I post, I end up hearing about how you boys like to diss Nebraska? Ironic.
See Yuz.
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1. No you didn\'t but I could care less.
2. *ding ding* I knew it. But who cares.
3. Top 5 in the US? Okay. But you don\'t give that image at all.
As for stimulating the economy, I admit I can\'t exactly recall the things he did. I was in college then getting drunk. :D I know his hands were tied by the Democrat majority Congress that caused a lot of grid lock with Bush Sr. I do know that the economic up swing came within a year of Clinton\'s term. That, James, was not from Clinton\'s doing.
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Hmm, for all of you who are so, so upset that the Dems lost.
Na-Na-Na-Na, Hey-Hey-Hey, Goodbye!
Na-Na-Na-Na, Hey-Hey-Hey, Goodbye!
Na-Na-Na-Na, Hey-Hey-Hey, Goodbye!
Yes I am being childish, but hey, it\'s Friday and the Republicans beat the Dems.
Ace
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You mom.
(haha, don\'t have such a smart comment for that one, do ya?)
Anyway, a president and his administration can do a ton to effect the economy during the short term. They can change tax rates, which can have immediate effects. They can change interest rates, which can do the same. There are endless amounts of things you can do to get the economy flowing, and keep it like that. That being said, recessions are unavoidable. They have always happened, and always will. The thing that should define the presidents is how they react to them, and how they try to minimize their effects. I think that both Bush (W) and Reagan have not done well during these situations, and only made things worse if anything.
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I agree to a point about presidents.
The difference is that I believe presidents have little effect if they can not get their programs passed. A president can not willy nilly (I said willy nilly) lower tax rates or interest rates (The Fed lowers or raises the rates). I agree the economy is cyclical and how a president reacts to the cycle is very important.
The Reagan years were some of the most prosperous we have ever seen in this country.
Ace
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That\'s why I said the president and his administration, not just the president. True, you would get a better sense of how strong a president is, in a sense, if his party is in control and he gets everything passed. Now is Bush\'s chance, let\'s see how good a president he actually can be.
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Ughh...Reganomics.....
Poor idea for the economy, but great weapon against the Soviets.
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Today, my Economics teacher came up and defended Reagonomics full-heartedly during class today, preaching Reagan\'s acts as if they were the smartest thing in the god damn world.
He also dissed me for only asking for 10 bucks during one of his fake example lecture things. Told me to get a date.
Yeah, my Economics teacher is an ass.
As for GMan, well, if you\'re going to say it, why can\'t you back it up? If you\'re goona use the age factor as one of the tried and true rules of intelegence, hell, I was 6 when Bush Senior got outsted, so educate me.
I don\'t show it, huh? Nice one. I will have to write that absolutely awesome insult down in my "Notepad o\' horrid and repetative insults". Yes, it\'s a long name, but it gets the point across.
See Yuz.
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First off, I am impressed that you have a teacher that understands the Reagan years. Almost every teacher I have ever had has been a left wing, pablum puking, earthy crunchy, sandal wearing, left wing, bleeding heart.
Don\'t diss Reagan because of the trash the left wing media and it\'s sycophantic following have been feeding you.
Ace
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The media is NOT left wing at all. I don\'t know how you people try to classify it as such. It is incredibly right wing, to the point of making me sick.
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I believe the media DOES have a liberal bias. However, I will say that the media isn\'t EXTREMELY left wing (and obviously, Fox News isn\'t a part of this since it is pretty obvious that they are a conservative news channel, and IMO the best). And yes, on a FEW issues, they paint a "conservative" spin on it (after all, bias or not, the news is run by corperations so to an extent, don\'t want to screw themselves with really crazy liberal talk). So yes, the media isn\'t a mouth piece of the extreme leftist (note, I said the extreme leftist).
However, if you take a part some of the stories, and the choice of certain stories, you will find an obvious bias to it. Example, remember the sniper case? All the "experts" the media brought up claimed he was an angry racist white guy going around killing people. People like Donohue, Dan Rather, Katie Curic, and other "unbiased" news reporters were convinced about it that they didn\'t even exercise the possibility that it was someone else. So, what happen when it was discovered that it was a black muslim AND a partner who was an illegal alien? Who, not to mention was caught by a Christian Truck Driver? Did they get back all the experts and say "whoops, we were wrong"? Did they even make light of the truck driver the hero who caught them? Nope. The truck driver was rarely mentioned, and the muslim connection to the story was reduced. Bias? :rolleyes:
Its even worse with local news. Espeically in San Francisco and Los Angeles. All it was here was bash conservatives. Especailly Bill Simon. Yes, Bill Simon made a ton of mistakes, which is why he lost the election. But why didn\'t they report all of the corruption of Gray Davis? And even AFTER all the fundraising schemes, corruption scandals, and so forth was released for Gray Davis, MOST of the major papers ENDORSED him. In fact, these same papers pretty much endorsed Democrats right down the line. Don\'t tell me we have a "conservative" bias here.
P.S. It was fun watching all of those media heads a gloom and doom after the Rupubs began to kick the Dems ass. :D
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The media is not left wing at all? I\'ll grant you that there has been more level minded media types since Fox News has made an appearance on the scene, but to say the media is not left wing at all is just out there.
Here, I\'ll give you some choices so when you watch TV you will feel right at home.
Lets see, Tom Brokaw, CNN, Peter Jennings, Dan Rather.
Or you could read Bernard Goldberg\'s book about how the big three distorts the news.
Ace
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P.S. It was fun watching all of those media heads a gloom and doom after the Rupubs began to kick the Dems ass.
Yeah, just wait. When the Dems are out of power they get really kooky. It\'s going to be a lot of fun.
Ace
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There is no mainstream media in the entire country that is left wing. Not one. Then again, take in to account that when I say this, I consider the Democrats to be right wing, and the Republicans to be extreme right wing. No major political party in this nation is left wing either, because they are all run by the rich, for the rich.
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Yes I agree, Democrats are run by the rich. However, even these rich peeps are American hating leftist. Hypocritcal rich leftist yes, but rich. The environmentalist for example, run by extremist communist Sierra Club who wants to take away the land, and let the forest destroyed, are the Democrats allys (earn their money by misguided donors who believe they are helping save the environment). Teacher Union, a union almost if not EVERY teacher has to join and support, who want to push their agenda down and brainwash our children into with sex education, animal rights talk, and other leftist crap, support the Dems. Unions in general, support the Dems. ACLU, who wants to make sure God is eliminated anywhere (yet doesn\'t care that a class is teaching about Muslims, and had kids dress up as Muslims and had their own little Jihad [I wish I was kidding you]) also support the Dems with the money that they earned by legal challanges and donors. And of coarse, the Hollywood Liberals. They have tons of money, yet bash other rich people for "not caring" about the poor. NAACP. Supposively for the advancements of color people (minus say successful groups like Asians) but really, to give Blacks preferable treatment and maintain a welfare state that never worked. Same with GLADD only this time for Gays and Lesbians. Both of coarse support Dems.
Now, yes, power corrupts, and when a nice bag of dough from say the oil company will help make a Dem support a certain thing (backdoor of coarse), which is partially why corrupt Davis nearly lost the envirowacko vote (Peter Cajamo, as you recall, did get 5% of the vote here). And, in a way, this is at least part of the reason why Democrats lost in the last election. But other then these "bad apples", a lot of leftist follow the money, and the money is from these hypocritical groups that basically made the Democratic party what it is today.
And its about to go really liberal when Nancy Pelosi (from San Francisco of all places :rolleyes: ) becomes the Minority Leader in the House.
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And its about to go really liberal when Nancy Pelosi (from San Francisco of all places ) becomes the Minority Leader in the House.
I consider that a good thing. It\'s the beginning of a long spiral downward. More power to them.
Ace
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I do too. This will make the more conservative section of the party either abandon them or simply support Republicans. Which, IMO, is a good thing. :)
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Americans hating leftists? Ha, I really find that funny. Sorry, but I honestly couldn\'t take anything you said seriously after you said that.
And you know why the unions support the democrats? Because the democrats are more of a workers party than the republicans. Nothing done by the republicans is aimed at helping the common man. It is all aimed at helping the richest section of the nation. The democrats at least try to help the workers, at times.
Basically, I have no respect what so ever for anything you said Simchoy, since it is so INCREDIBLY ignorant. Say what you want about this comment, but it\'s what I know to be true.
Once again, I\'m not going into anything in depth here. If you want to talk, IM me.
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I don\'t care if you think I\'m ignorant. I simply take what I see and hear, and give my opinion on it. Also, when I say "Anti-American", I\'m not just saying this country, but what this country does and what this country is for. What what I see and hear from the left, if you listen, LISTEN to some of these liberals, you will here that EVERYTHING they are for, is against the American way (and no, not simply just dissagreement, but what they stand for). And some even say that they do hate this country (example some of those actors and actresses [particularly Susan Surandon] who was quoted as saying that America is a horrible place [parapharsing] even though after 9/11 she was supposed to be the number 1 patriot). Environmentalist told the UN that giving electricty was a bad thing in Africa because it "destoryed the culture" there, and basically everything America did, was wrong (despite the fact that chances are, their office in SanFran has electricity and TVs which were "destroying" the cultures in Africa). Even called poverty a "good" thing. Pro-America?
Now, I shouldn\'t have simply said that Leftist hate America, there are those who love this country who I simply believe are misguided. But many of the talking heads, the "leaders" of the left, give the impression that what this nation stands for, is what is wrong with this world.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
And you know why the unions support the democrats? Because the democrats are more of a workers party than the republicans. Nothing done by the republicans is aimed at helping the common man. It is all aimed at helping the richest section of the nation. The democrats at least try to help the workers, at times.
Once again, I\'m not going into anything in depth here. If you want to talk, IM me.
I get the feeling you believe government handouts is somehow helping the common man.
You know what will help this common man? CUTTING MY FREAKING TAXES SO I DON"T FEEL LIKE I AM GETTING RAPED BY UNCLE SAM EVERY APRIL 15TH.
By the way shockwaves, stay in the conversation. No need to leave an interesting thread.
Ace
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*deleted b/c i am stupid*
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Ace does a double take.
Please explain how my taxes being lowered (meaning I have more money in my pocket) would pad the pockets of people in office?
I will never, ever understand anyone who lives under the tax burden we live under not wanting some of their hard earned money where it belongs.
Ace
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Dont mind me whats so ever, i started drinkin early and really fuq my statement up. Just pretend it was never there :)
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Hey that must be some good stuff. :)
I\'m still waiting to go out and have a few wobbly pops.
Ace
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Im satying in tonight..just me, the ps2 and 2 friends
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I\'m staying in the thread I guess, it\'s just really hard to get my points across in here. Oh well, I guess it\'s just something we will never agree on, kinda like the religion threads. Let\'s just all agree that it\'s a good thing that people actually care enough about what is happening to argue like this, and leave it at that.
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
Today, my Economics teacher came up and defended Reagonomics full-heartedly during class today, preaching Reagan\'s acts as if they were the smartest thing in the god damn world.
He also dissed me for only asking for 10 bucks during one of his fake example lecture things. Told me to get a date.
Yeah, my Economics teacher is an ass.
As for GMan, well, if you\'re going to say it, why can\'t you back it up? If you\'re goona use the age factor as one of the tried and true rules of intelegence, hell, I was 6 when Bush Senior got outsted, so educate me.
I don\'t show it, huh? Nice one. I will have to write that absolutely awesome insult down in my "Notepad o\' horrid and repetative insults". Yes, it\'s a long name, but it gets the point across.
See Yuz.
BWAHAHAHA! :laughing: I TOLD YOU, DIDN\'T I???? BWAHAHAHA!
ROL James : Owned by G-man Joe
ROL James : Property of G-man Joe
This is rather comical, to say the least.
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Haha, yes, it sure is.
You just told me, eh? Cutting back on everything, taking jobs from the American people, promising no new taxes, then, well, making new taxes. My favorite president indeed.
If you\'re going to boast the fact that you\'re older than me, act like it.
See Yuz.