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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: KillaX on November 09, 2002, 03:58:55 PM
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yes! the Oklahoma Sooners loose to texas A&M, another un-beaten is beaten! Ohio ST Buckeyes still remain unbeaten and look to go to #1 in the BCS this week or next depending on if they win next week! GO BUCS!
Still Knocking on wood!
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LOL LOL LOL LOL
I can imagine Ohio playing Miami in the Fiesta Bowl...can you say 49-7?
Great, OU lost. Now we\'ll just be bored watching Miami stomp Texas or Ohio just like the did Nebraska last year.
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this is perfect.....michigan now has the prefect oppertunity. they can ruin Ohio States season! o that would be sweet.
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OHIO ST BABY! FIESTA BOWL, HERE WE COME!
And Clowd, don\'t be a moron. Miami vs. Ohio St. would not be that type of a blowout. Ohio St., remember, has been winning without their best player. Clarrett was out for most of the game today with an injury, and Ohio St. showed that they can come back, on the road, without him. Ohio St. has beaten some real quality teams: Washington St., Penn St., etc. They will also have to beat Michigan to even get there.
Anyway, I\'ll be curious to see where Oklahoma falls to in the polls. If they fall to four or lower, the Horns will be ranked ahead of them, which would be very interesting, considering that they lost to OU, and OU still controls its own destiny in the Big XII.
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LOSE you mean.... :laughing:
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GO TEXAS! down with evryone else
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Originally posted by Clowd
LOL LOL LOL LOL
I can imagine Ohio playing Miami in the Fiesta Bowl...can you say 49-7?
Great, OU lost. Now we\'ll just be bored watching Miami stomp Texas or Ohio just like the did Nebraska last year.
Haha, now this is hilarious. I\'m not saying OSU or any other team is sweet but Miami is far from the best. I still think Oklahoma would destroy them given the chance. Does anybody actually watch Miami? Their defense is horrible.
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lol man Miami\'s defence is horrible?They dishragged UT today,at their house.It wasn\'t even as close as the 26-3 score indicated.I mean damn man so what they gave up over 100 yards to Greg jones,he\'s a good back,and FSU has one of the best lines in the nation.The secondary is talented if a little young but that\'s going to happen when all four of the guys from last year get drafted.
You seem to really have a hatred for UM.They\'ve won 31 games straight games.That\'s not easy in this day and age,talent is alot more spread out between schools now.But I\'m sure if ohio is as good as you think we\'ll find out just how bad UM\'s defence is at the end of the year.
UM national champs 83\' 87\' 89\' 91\' 01\' and soon to be 02\'
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OSU\'s offense is equally bad. If it ends up them two playing it should be an interesting game.
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Just beat Michigan.
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Originally posted by square_marker
this is perfect.....michigan now has the prefect oppertunity. they can ruin Ohio States season! o that would be sweet.
So your a Michigan fan? Look for a friend of mine, #56 Lawrence Reid, to be starting for them more and more. He just had his redshirt freshman year and was starting on special teams and some playing time as linebacker but had a blood clot and is out for the rest of this year.
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Sorry, but the title had to be changed. It was driving me nuts.
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Originally posted by Bozco
Haha, now this is hilarious. I\'m not saying OSU or any other team is sweet but Miami is far from the best. I still think Oklahoma would destroy them given the chance. Does anybody actually watch Miami? Their defense is horrible.
I\'m not sure what you mean but my point is that if Miami played OSU today OSU would lose by 30 points, OSU has had a weak schedule resulting in the only reason why they are undefeated. I mean they almost lost to Purdue, in a wimpy 10 point effort.
Oklahoma would give Miami a good game but Ohio State? :(
Stat people would look at Ohio\'s state record and say oh they\'re a good team they\'re undefeated. Non stat people like myself would realize how weak of a schedule they had
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Originally posted by shockwaves
OHIO ST BABY! FIESTA BOWL, HERE WE COME!
And Clowd, don\'t be a moron. Miami vs. Ohio St. would not be that type of a blowout. Ohio St., remember, has been winning without their best player. Clarrett was out for most of the game today with an injury, and Ohio St. showed that they can come back, on the road, without him. Ohio St. has beaten some real quality teams: Washington St., Penn St., etc. They will also have to beat Michigan to even get there.
Anyway, I\'ll be curious to see where Oklahoma falls to in the polls. If they fall to four or lower, the Horns will be ranked ahead of them, which would be very interesting, considering that they lost to OU, and OU still controls its own destiny in the Big XII.
Yes, Miami would stomp a mud-hole in Ohio State. Purdue is 4-6. Ohio State was a blown coverage away from losing 6-3 to Purdue, who isn\'t exactly a huge defensive team. If Ohio State is pinning its\' entire hopes on Clarett, they\'ll lose somewhere down the road.
Penn State is not quality. Their one big win this year was against a, sad to say, inept Nebraska team. Nebraska is light years beyond that game as far as playing goes. Pretty pathetic that Ohio State is considered one of the top teams in the nation right now, becuase as of right now, Texas would beat the holy shit out of Ohio State. Hell, Nebraska could probably beat Ohio State right now, and that\'s saying something.
Miami would pretty much beat up on Ohio State. Miami reproved their dominance yesterday by going into Knoxville and leaving with a "business as usual" type mentality.
As far as Oklahoma Goes, I hope they don\'t drop too far. They\'re still the best team in the nation, and they just ran into a team that had nothing to lose, and ended up getting beaten. It happens, and it\'s probably redemption for what happened 2 years ago in College Station.
Anyway, the Chiefs are just frustrating me more, so as far as I\'m concerned, Football can **** itself as a whole.
See Yuz.
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IMO the sonners would give UM the toughest game.That defence is probably the best in the nation.But if OSU wins out,then they deserve to play for the national championship.You really can\'t ask a team to do any more than that.Going undefeated aint easy.
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Originally posted by Clowd
I\'m not sure what you mean but my point is that if Miami played OSU today OSU would lose by 30 points, OSU has had a weak schedule resulting in the only reason why they are undefeated. I mean they almost lost to Purdue, in a wimpy 10 point effort.
Hmm, thats interesting. OSU\'s strength of schedule is ranked higher than Miami\'s, very interesting. And whats the highest ranking team that Miami has beat? Now whats the highest ranking team the Buckeyes have beat? Ok
Originally posted by Clowd
Oklahoma would give Miami a good game but Ohio State? :(
I think Oklahoma is the best but are you even thinking? You say OSU almost lost to Purdue and thats why they suck. Oklahoma lost to an equally shitty team, Texas A&M. Go by your own words. OSU can\'t suck for almost losing to a bad team while Oklahoma doesn\'t suck when they did lose to a bad team.
Originally posted by Clowd
Stat people would look at Ohio\'s state record and say oh they\'re a good team they\'re undefeated. Non stat people like myself would realize how weak of a schedule they had
I\'m not a stat person either. I look at who each team has played and I realize that though Ohio State has had a shaky season, they\'ve also beat teams better than any team Miami has beat.
You can\'t judge their whole season off of one game. As if Miami hasn\'t had their horrible games either. Losing to Rutgers in the 4th quarter. Purdue is much better than Rutgers.
Originally posted by ROL Jamas
Yes, Miami would stomp a mud-hole in Ohio State. Purdue is 4-6. Ohio State was a blown coverage away from losing 6-3 to Purdue, who isn\'t exactly a huge defensive team. If Ohio State is pinning its\' entire hopes on Clarett, they\'ll lose somewhere down the road.
As if Miami hasn\'t had their horrible games. OSU wins just fine with Lydell in. They just need to tell Clarett to completely sit till the bowl game.
Originally posted by ROL Jamas
As far as Oklahoma Goes, I hope they don\'t drop too far. They\'re still the best team in the nation, and they just ran into a team that had nothing to lose, and ended up getting beaten. It happens, and it\'s probably redemption for what happened 2 years ago in College Station.
Going against your own word too. Just like Oklahoma, OSU met a team with nothing to lose. Purdue has nothing to go for so how can\'t OSU use that excuse. Please stop hating on the team, just trying to fight for an excuse.
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Ohio state has beaten a higher ranked team than Miami has. They have beaten the #4 team in the country. They also beat teams ranked #17 and #19 when they played them. They also still have Michigan (currently #11) to go. Add to that the fact that they are undefeated (which says a lot about a team), and you have a team who deserves to be #2, and have proved themselves.
Yes, Ohio St.\'s strength of schedule also gained them an entire point over Miami in the BCS. That also says something.
And the Sooners having the best D in the country? Please. Texas A&M picked them apart.
Ohio State has had the 21st hardest schedule as of last week. Miami has had the 46th.
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Well i just want to say this.
WSU isn\'t even the best team in the Pac-10.
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Who is, USC? Don\'t make me laugh. USC has two loses, and one is to WSU. Nothing else needs to be said.
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Originally posted by Bozco
Going against your own word too. Just like Oklahoma, OSU met a team with nothing to lose. Purdue has nothing to go for so how can\'t OSU use that excuse. Please stop hating on the team, just trying to fight for an excuse.
So you\'re willing to take Purdue in West Lafayette instead of Texas A&M in Kyle Field, where they\'ve lost 11 games in the past 14 years? Did it ever occur to you that Texas A&M might have the slightest bit of talent? Just a little FYI, McNeil didn\'t play against Nebraska or Oklahoma State, where A&M had probably their worst looking losses.
I don\'t know where you got that "against my own word" crap. OSU hasn\'t had just one bad game -- they\'ve had 4. You want to impress me? How about you handle Illinois. They actually have a pretty talented team, even though they started out badly. I wouldn\'t be surprised if Illinois pulled that upset...I\'d be pretty happy about it, as well.
No, I can feel as if I choose with Ohio State. You give me shit about Nebraska all the time, hell, you even hold it against me in arguments TOTALLY UNRELATED to Football. If you\'re not going to respect my team, there\'s no way in hell I\'m respecting yours. I wouldn\'t anyway.
See Yuz.
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There\'s a difference though. Ohio St. is undefeated, they deserve respect. Nebraska has had a bad year, they don\'t deserve respect. And by the way, how many of those bad looking wins was Clarett playing the whole time? Usually when you take away a teams best player, it will hurt em. It shows some character that they were able to come up with the wins in all those games.
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
So you\'re willing to take Purdue in West Lafayette instead of Texas A&M in Kyle Field, where they\'ve lost 11 games in the past 14 years? Did it ever occur to you that Texas A&M might have the slightest bit of talent? Just a little FYI, McNeil didn\'t play against Nebraska or Oklahoma State, where A&M had probably their worst looking losses.
The difference from a team like Oklahoma and a team like OSU is that OSU went to an away field and still won. And I think Purdue is just as good as Texas A&M, or close to it. And OSU didn\'t exactly play bad their defense played great, as usual.
I don\'t know where you got that "against my own word" crap. OSU hasn\'t had just one bad game -- they\'ve had 4. You want to impress me? How about you handle Illinois. They actually have a pretty talented team, even though they started out badly. I wouldn\'t be surprised if Illinois pulled that upset...I\'d be pretty happy about it, as well.
For every "bad" game they\'ve had they still won. And you act as if Miami hasn\'t had their fair share of shaky games. And of course you would be happy if OSU lost, as if we didn\'t already know that.
No, I can feel as if I choose with Ohio State. You give me shit about Nebraska all the time, hell, you even hold it against me in arguments TOTALLY UNRELATED to Football. If you\'re not going to respect my team, there\'s no way in hell I\'m respecting yours. I wouldn\'t anyway.
I give you shit about Nebraska because you let it bother you so much, its alright. And go ahead and don\'t respect the team that is undefeated.
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Tony, what ever happend to your "other" favorite team, Texas?
OU has played great all season, and they slip up against a team that has talent and was under-achieving.
And my god, hearing "they are undefeated, they deserve respect" is getting old. They have yet to dominate a good team. But on the other hand, OU dominated Texas.
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They dominated WSU. I don\'t know how you can keep throwing that game out the window. WSU is ranked just as high as Texas is.
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Repeating ourselves is getting old.
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Tell me about it.
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They didn\'t dominate WSU. For one, that game was in Columbus, two, WSU was leading at halftime.
Oklahoma beat Texas in Dallas, Texas. Not necesarilly a road game, but it\'s a neutral site. Oklahoma beat Mizzou in Mizzou, and that\'s ALWAYS a tough place to play. Truth be told, Oklahoma actually plays better on the road rather than at home. Alabama should have beaten them in Norman, and Okie State did last year. So with that, are you really saying that Purdue in West Lafayette is better than A&M in College Station? Pretty weak argument.
Pushing my buttons, huh? You\'re nothing but an antagonist. I\'m not going to shut up until you give me a reason to shut up, Bozco. Oh, and my Huskers are 7-4, were a bad play call away from beating the #3 team in the nation, and beat the team that just beat the #1 team in the nation in their house.
See Yuz.
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And the Huskers will have nothing to show for. And I\'m nothing but an antagonist? Interesting coming from you.
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Ouch, that one hit home.
What\'s to say that Ohio State will have anything to show for? Dare we look back to next year? Oregon getting screwed out of a shot at the National Title game, not even being CONSIDERED for the Rose Bowl in the final BCS poll. Whos to say that Texas won\'t jump Ohio State for their close wins against mediocre opponents, while Texas, outside of the OU game, has beaten good teams, and in tough environments (K-State in Manhattan, Nebraska in Lincoln). Go Blue.
And who wouldn\'t want to see Nebraska vs. Tennessee in the Shreveport Bowl? I\'m sure a bunch of people would pay to see that :)
And yes, you\'re an antagonist. I\'m sorry if my unbearably brutal comment offended you in any way, like everything else does.
See Yuz.
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Texas has no chance of jumping OSU if they win out. Just not going to happen. I mean, OSU will likely be #1 in the BCS anyway, since they will have moved up more in the polls, and gained more quality win points from Saturdays games. If OSU wins out, they are in the national title game, no question about it.
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I wouldn\'t be so sure. Say WSU in fact does lose to USC, well, Ohio State is going to lose out bigtime on the quality opponent factor. That win alone is the only thing holding them up. And say, Texas wins out, OU wins out, well, Texas looks that much better. Again, don\'t forget about our beloved Sooners. In no way are they out.
Hell, they beat Texas, and Texas will be #3 or #4 in the BCS. Ohio State will go up in the polls, but so will Miami. That 1.5 poll average just went to 2. Of course, they get hurt bigtime by the Va Tech loss. That right there is another thing that makes the BCS shit, having to depend on other teams to keep your rating high.
So, on the contrary, there is actually a great chance that Texas could jump OSU. Besides, Come November 30th, OSU won\'t have to worry about staying at #1 or #2, becuase they will join the pool of 1 loss teams =D
See Yuz.
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How will Texas jump OSU? As long as OSU doesn\'t have a loss, they have 1 point on em there, at least 1 from the polls, and at least one from the computer rankings. There is no chance that UT passes em.
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1 point. Whoop-de-doo. Rankings aren\'t that bad, and besides, Ohio State still has to play Michigan, and they\'ll choke.
Then again, Texas has to play A&M. So yeah, Go Sooners.
See Yuz.
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How easily people forget about Washington State. They could just as easily go if the Buckeyes lose.
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BCS Rankings:
1. Ohio State
2. Miami
3. Washington State
4. Oklahoma
5. Texas
But what strikes me about this - 8. Iowa
And I agree whole-heartedly with Trev Alberts on this, Iowa is the best team in the Big 10. This dilemma, however, will stick out, simply becuase the Big 10 is too lazy to get a 12th team. Can\'t play the "we want to stay the Big 10" card, because they added Penn State. The only real ethical thing to do would be to add Notre Dame to the conference -- hell, they play a lot of the teams in the conference anyway, so why not?
Iowa\'s only loss was a heartbreaker to Iowa State, when they had a 24-7 lead at halftime, and blew it. Too bad, had they stayed undefeated, who knows? Would we be looking at a whole other controversey all-together?
No, nobody forgot the WSU OSU game, but I do have a question -- is that a home and home series? I\'d like to see Ohio State go into Pullman next year and see how that\'d turn out. Oh well, the Ohio State AD probably said that he would only play a home game, and not travel into a tough environment -- he did the same thing to Nebraska. You wonder why Nebraska and Ohio State never play, well, they\'ve been trying (at least Byrne has) to work out a deal for about the past 9 years. Cryin\' shame, really.
See Yuz.
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Trev, anyone who takes his word seriously needs to really be evaluated. Most consider him at best a worthless sports analyst. Nor am I saying this because he doesn\'t like my Buckeyes, most people see it this way.
Oh, and anybody watching Jeopardy right now? Trebek is wearing Clarett\'s jersey. :)
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Originally posted by Bozco
Trev, anyone who takes his word seriously needs to really be evaluated. Most consider him at best a worthless sports analyst. Nor am I saying this because he doesn\'t like my Buckeyes, most people see it this way.
Oh, and anybody watching Jeopardy right now? Trebek is wearing Clarett\'s jersey. :)
Sienfeld for me. I\'d rather watch Jerry go to a Mets game than watch a Canadian wear an Ohio State Jersey =P
Yes, Trev most certainly is a worthless sports analyst. Just like Charlie Ward is a worthless basketball player...but Trev kept him under wraps in 1993, so it all evens out...right?
And yeah, you\'re probably saying that because he doesn\'t like the Buckeyes, and rightly so. He\'s from Iowa, so he\'s actually quite biased for another reason :)
But he is right, they\'re not the best in the Big 10, simply because they can\'t prove it. Brad Banks would run circles around that vaunted OSU defense, who held PURDUE TO 6 POINTS. IMPRESSIVE. Considering Purdue got into FG territory 2 more times than that....stupid play calling.
Anyway, uhm. Go Michigan. The Champions of the West, or as Squaremarker now knows because I made better lyrics, the Champions of the World, and yes, "World" means "Ohio State". And yes, we all remember 1995 and 1996, right?
And as this point, I am rambling. Time for some asprin.
See Yuz.
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I just saw the new Standings! I told you! OSU #1!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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What a croc of shit,asking a computer to decide who the best team in football is.Complete bullshit.Do you think if they let a computer decide who went to the superbowl at the end of last year the patriots would have been there?
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If Miami had a harder schedule they would be in first but they don\'t.
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Wouldn\'t matter to me if they were in first place,it\'s still a bunch of crap.These non-conference games are scheduled 4 years in advance.And even then they\'re usually 4 to 6 year home and away commitments.That means you\'re scheduling games against teams 8 to 10 years away.
Who would have thought 4 years ago that Florida would be barely better than vanderbilt?Who knew FSU would be only slightly better than that.
I\'m just saying there should be a playoff for college football.You see those goofball talking heads on ESPN and they say"yeah but if there were playoffs we would\'nt be having these great debates".Imagine that,having debates about what games would be great,instead of watching great games.
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The playoffs would add less excitement to the normal season. And even playoffs wouldn\'t always produce the best team. Their is no good choice.
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Allow me to make a one word comment to Bozco here.
bullshit
thanks...
May I push ahead?
Does anyone watch any bowl games? I don\'t even watch the bowl game Florida is in unless it\'s for the National title. They are 100% useless.
Regular season less exciting? Are you nuts? If only 8-12 teams make the playoffs it would be more exciting because the way it is now if you have 1 loss you are a goner. It\'s just stupid. This would give far more teams a reason to play rather than just trying to make the scouts and alumni happy.
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Make it an 8 team playoff, with the teams decided by the polls. There would still be a lot of importance to the regular season, since 1 loss teams could potentially not make it, and two loss ones probably would be out for sure. That way, you can\'t be beaten out by a team that you never played, and never got the chance to prove that you\'re better than. If there is a playoff system, and you don\'t win it all, it\'s your fault. If a computer decides, then it may be the computer\'s fault. Sure the playoffs may not produce the best team, but they do produce the team that deserves it the most. That\'s what matters.
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Yeah buddy.
Also it will make the Poullan Weed Eater bowl worth something. I\'d watch all the bowl games if they were part of playoffs. Ugh, even the notion of someone saying they don\'t need a playoff system is pure ignorance.
The only thing keeping the playoffs out is corporate greed and the BCS.
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And tradition. A lot of the bowls have been around for a long time, and a lot of people see it as a part of what college football is. Hell, we didn\'t even have a championship game until recently.
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I just don\'t like how the NFL\'s playoffs are set up at all. You could possibly do it right but I don\'t have to much against the way it is right now. And having one loss doesn\'t make you a goner. That is unless you still have amazing teams that stay undefeated.
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If Ohio State gets one loss I think you will feel differently cause I guarantee you Oklahoma would jump OSU
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I know teams will jump them if they lose. I just don\'t see how a playoff would work with how things are setup right now. Their would have to be major adjustments.
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Washington St. would be the one playing Miami as of right now, if OSU loses.
Anyone else think that in all honesty, the best game would be Iowa vs. Miami?
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Don\'t forgot WSU loses points if OSU loses though.
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My god, you have to ba a total math geek to figure this shit out.
Just play some fizucking ball on the freaking field!!!
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I wonder just how many teams have their hopes for a NC crushed by that first loss of the season.I wonder how many more losses that leads too.You see what I mean.Some teams already gone 8-0 with visions of a NC game dancing in their head,then boom,they run into a that one game that just kind of happens in college football.Then after that they just can\'t get up for the next game.EX.I believe this is what happened to FSU after the loss to luisiville.
Man their just college kids,but they\'ve got the pressure of a perfect season on them.Basicly that\'s what it comes down to in college football,if you don\'t have a perfect season you\'re not going to play for a NC.
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Yes, WSU loses a little in strength of schedule, but not that much. Oklahoma is behind them by too much for that to make a difference.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Washington St. would be the one playing Miami as of right now, if OSU loses.
Anyone else think that in all honesty, the best game would be Iowa vs. Miami?
Wrong. The only thing keeping WSU in the 3 spot is Ohio State. OSU loses, and WSU goes tumbling with them, as does their stregnth of schedule. If Ohio State loses, Oklahoma would go to the National Title game. Reason? Washington State has that loss holding them up, and Ohio State gets .8 taken off for that WSU win. The polls would drop Ohio State to about 7th or 8th with a loss, dropping WSU\'s stregnth of schedule, which isn\'t great anyway. Besides, in all likelihood, Oklahoma\'s goona play, and kill, Colorado again, so who knows. Then again, that\'s in all likelihood. Can\'t forget last year.
Iowa vs. Miami - would be the best matchup anyway, no matter what Ohio State finishes.
See Yuz.
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
Iowa vs. Miami - would be the best matchup anyway, no matter what Ohio State finishes.
See Yuz.
Oh Brad Banks, yes, he would do good vs Miami, probably as good or better then Oklahoma
Look, in sports certain teams matchup against other teams well. Look at the Bulls of the 90s. They always struggled vs the Pacers. Whether the Pacers did well in the season or not the Bulls had problems with them. Same thing with the Spurs, if you look it up the Bulls probably split their games with either team through their 6 championships.
What I am saying is that some teams have problems with certain teams. Oklahoma doesn\'t match up as good with Texas A&M. They should of lost 2 years ago but a miracle saved them. THis year it was their corner backs either falling and leaving recievers wide open 40 yards down the field or being fooled by a simple pump by the QB allowing the reciever to get 10 yards ahead of them.
It wasnt anything Texas A&M did to win the game but it was what Oklahoma did.
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That\'s bullshit. You know why the Bulls and Pacers games were close? It\'s called a heated rivalry. Those games are different, but it has nothing to do with how the teams matchup. It\'s all about emotion. When you get two teams that truly hate eachother, emotion gets involved in the playing of the game. The better team gets distracted, and the worse team gets motivated. It can be seen in any sport. These things don\'t happen where there isn\'t this sort of heat between the teams.
Texas A&M beating Oklahoma had nothing to do with matchups. I\'ll tell you what it was though. For A&M, this was a game to look forward to all season. A game to focus on, to dream about, to prepare for. So when the game came, they knew exactly what to do, and were extra motivated for it. Oklahoma, on the other hand, was overlooking this team, and weren\'t as well prepared. That\'s why upsets happen, and why it\'s so hard to go undefeated. It was partially about what OU didn\'t do, sure, but it was mainly about what Texas A&M did. Matchups? Once again, not a chance. Hell, how many starters you think the teams still have from two years ago? It\'s about emotion.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Texas A&M beating Oklahoma had nothing to do with matchups. I\'ll tell you what it was though. For A&M, this was a game to look forward to all season. A game to focus on, to dream about, to prepare for. So when the game came, they knew exactly what to do, and were extra motivated for it. Oklahoma, on the other hand, was overlooking this team, and weren\'t as well prepared. That\'s why upsets happen, and why it\'s so hard to go undefeated. It was partially about what OU didn\'t do, sure, but it was mainly about what Texas A&M did. Matchups? Once again, not a chance. Hell, how many starters you think the teams still have from two years ago? It\'s about emotion.
Wrong. A&M and Oklahoma have been playing for 5 years. Before that, they bearly ever played. A&M\'s rivalry game is Texas, forever and always. A&M didn\'t DREAM about this game, they simply put in the better quarterback. McNeil did NOT play against either Nebraska or Oklahoma State. He played against Texas Tech, and threw 7 TD passes. Makes you wonders about Slocum\'s decision making, but that\'s a different story.
Ty Warren was playing this game, who is a huge part of the A&M Defense. Again, he did not play against Nebraska or Oklahoma State. Put him in, sure, Griffin had a good game, but he never got utilized.
Oklahoma\'s offense has been shaky ever since Jason White tore his other ACL. I knew the second that happened that Nate Hybl was not going to take this team to the promised land. Without Jason White, Oklahoma simply isn\'t as good of a team.
Doesn\'t matter about the starters man, that game was lost by A&M 2 years ago. Oklahoma was a more resilient team then, led by some guy named Torrance Marshall (who is being wasted by the Packers right now, by the way). That man was simply a beast, and he is probably the most underrated player in the NFL Today...when I get Madden 2003, he\'s going to be on all the teams I ever have :-D
See Yuz.
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
Wrong. A&M and Oklahoma have been playing for 5 years. Before that, they bearly ever played. A&M\'s rivalry game is Texas, forever and always. A&M didn\'t DREAM about this game, they simply put in the better quarterback. McNeil did NOT play against either Nebraska or Oklahoma State. He played against Texas Tech, and threw 7 TD passes. Makes you wonders about Slocum\'s decision making, but that\'s a different story.
Ty Warren was playing this game, who is a huge part of the A&M Defense. Again, he did not play against Nebraska or Oklahoma State. Put him in, sure, Griffin had a good game, but he never got utilized.
Oklahoma\'s offense has been shaky ever since Jason White tore his other ACL. I knew the second that happened that Nate Hybl was not going to take this team to the promised land. Without Jason White, Oklahoma simply isn\'t as good of a team.
Doesn\'t matter about the starters man, that game was lost by A&M 2 years ago. Oklahoma was a more resilient team then, led by some guy named Torrance Marshall (who is being wasted by the Packers right now, by the way). That man was simply a beast, and he is probably the most underrated player in the NFL Today...when I get Madden 2003, he\'s going to be on all the teams I ever have :-D
See Yuz.
Yes, Texas is a bigger game. But are you telling me there isn\'t a team in the country that doesn\'t get pumped up when they play the current #1? And are you telling me that the #1 will always be pumped to play Texas A&M? If so, I\'ll laugh at you. If not, then that\'s my point.
And your last paragraph...that\'s my point. These are different teams from when they met two years ago. They would match up differently, and have different strengths and weaknesses than they did 2 years ago.
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I wouldn\'t say that. Kyle Field is still there, the Wrecking Crew is still there...A&M finally found a quarterback. Only difference.
Oklahoma\'s team from 2 years ago wasn\'t much different, they just had a better offense. The defenses are about the same (Torrance Marshall, Roy Wiliams, Rocky Calmus, etc). You\'d be surprised as to how many Oklahoma Starters right now were starters on that team 2 years ago. Savage, Wollfolk, Griffin, etc.
Oh, and get back on AIM. Slut...I proposed a rather large trade to Vid in the fantasy league.
See Yuz.