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Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Black Samurai on November 16, 2002, 03:12:38 PM
What are some radical and controversial views that you have?

List them in this thread.

(This is a thread for people to list some of their controversial beliefs which may be offensive to others not to attack someone for their beliefs. If you disagree with someone take it up with them in a PM or start another thread called "Controversial Belief Disagreements" or something)

BTW, When you list some of your ideas, try to put up a little information whay you feel that way. Don\'t just say that you think "Humans evolved from aquatic apes" without giving us a little background.

My list:

- I think that AIDS was a man made disease. I think it was made to kill off different parts of society(Gays, etc.).

- I think that there is a cure for AIDS and many other diseases but they are not being released because the money is in the treatment NOT the cure. I think that if you have the money and know the right people you can get one of those cures. (Magic Johnson comes to mind for some reason)

- I think OJ did it. Do I have to elaborate?

- I think that people are not born gay. I think their sexuality is a product of their upbringing.

- I believe that many of the things Greek and Roman societies are given credit for originated in Egyptian society. Things like different aspects of science and medicine.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: shockwaves on November 16, 2002, 03:20:15 PM
- I think I have lost all respect that I had for you, and think you are an asshole, based on your beliefs.  Controversial, yes?  Sorry, not starting a new topic to say that.

- I think that the American government is the single worst government in the world.  We cause easily the most pain, suffering, and death around the world.

That a good start?  I may have more.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Toxical on November 16, 2002, 03:28:17 PM
I think the US Government is totally corrupt.

I think that the world needs a strong ass-kicking to get it right.

I think Democracy sucks when you really can\'t say what you want.

I think too much care is taken for certain countries while other countries are neglected until they make themselves visible on the radar screen through terrorism aka Afghanistan, Saudi Arabia, Pakistan etc…

The world truly needs a dictator that will unite the world to one cause… :D

I think we pay too much in taxes, I do not want my tax money to be used by the military. If you got nukes, how many other weapons do you really need?????


I could go on... but hey, i better stop, better not bitch against the government... can\'t have too much expression or else the FBI/CIA/NSA will tag my ass and export me to that nice Cuban "Terrorist" resort for questioning.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: luckee on November 16, 2002, 06:20:43 PM
This is no fun without debate. If we all start a thread disagreeing with a view, who knows how many will pop up.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: clowd on November 21, 2002, 02:50:02 PM
-I believe dying your hair color is like dying your skin color.  I see no difference.

-I believe Americans stole the entire U.S.

-No,  the A bomb did not have to be dropped on Japan.  Eisenhower agrees with me

-No,  its not OK to be overweight

-more later
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: shockwaves on November 21, 2002, 02:58:51 PM
That\'s strange.  I really thought I would disagree with what Clowd said.  And yet, I don\'t.  The closest is the overweight one, but in most cases I do agree, so, yeah.  Good job :)
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Ace on November 21, 2002, 03:03:30 PM
Oh boy! I can see a new thread for every response so far.

I think it\'s best I leave this thread quietly.

Ace
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: shockwaves on November 21, 2002, 03:14:47 PM
I wouldn\'t mind a thread arguing mine.  It would give me something better to post about for a while.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Titan on November 21, 2002, 03:16:01 PM
-AIDs is not man made (Gohan, PM me with why you feel this way, I\'m curious)(as I finished writing this sentence, a popup for http://www.aidscureherbal.com came up :laughing: )
-Bin Laden is probably dead but we need a reason to keep fighting
-humans are the worst thing ever created
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And.....
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Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: The Stapler on November 21, 2002, 03:16:41 PM
I think we did have to drop the bomb. An invasion of Japan would have cost more lives that both of the bombs.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: clowd on November 21, 2002, 03:39:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by The Stapler
I think we did have to drop the bomb. An invasion of Japan would have cost more lives that both of the bombs.


The bomb was dropped for 3 reasons.  

1.  Show Russia that they are ahead of them

2.  Prevent Russian invasion of Japan

3.  Wanted to use it after all the money that was spent on it.


Eisenhower agreed that Japan was already defeated.

I howly doubt finishing Japan off would cost 250,000 American lives,  its just like what they said back in Vietnam,  you don\'t go out there and fight they\'ll take us over.  Of course we know that is not true.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: shockwaves on November 21, 2002, 03:45:11 PM
Even if we did need to bomb them, why do it twice?  It was done mainly to show Russia the power we had, and to send them a message.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Titan on November 21, 2002, 03:47:24 PM
I thought we were allied with Russia at that time?
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: shockwaves on November 21, 2002, 03:49:39 PM
We were, but I guarantee you that our government hated them more than the Germans.  We were allied, but we knew conflict was coming, and we did not like eachother at all.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Titan on November 21, 2002, 03:58:58 PM
Ah, I understand. Thx.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 21, 2002, 04:02:20 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Clowd


The bomb was dropped for 3 reasons.  

1.  Show Russia that they are ahead of them

2.  Prevent Russian invasion of Japan

3.  Wanted to use it after all the money that was spent on it.


Eisenhower agreed that Japan was already defeated.

I howly doubt finishing Japan off would cost 250,000 American lives,  its just like what they said back in Vietnam,  you don\'t go out there and fight they\'ll take us over.  Of course we know that is not true.


Well, Japan did SMOKE Russia in the War of 1905. Then again, the Machine Gun and Russia\'s weak government situation probably had something to do with that.

1 and 3...yeah, you\'re probably right. 2, probably not. What would Russia want with Japan -- it\'s just another sea port that they\'re not goona use, anyway. Then again, i\'m probably wrong. EDUCATE MEH!

See Yuz.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: -____- on November 21, 2002, 04:02:43 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Toxical

I think Democracy sucks when you really can\'t say what you want.


We are a republic, not a democracy (that is if you ARE talking about the US.)
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: shockwaves on November 21, 2002, 04:04:22 PM
But they don\'t teach you that is schools :o
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: luckee on November 21, 2002, 06:21:18 PM
Do you people really have that hard of a time following directions?

Start a new thread or PM the person you disagree with and respect the wishes of the Gohan.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 21, 2002, 07:00:28 PM
Yes, becuase we ALL need more off-topic spam, don\'t we?

That makes no sense. What the hell\'s the point of creating a topic if you don\'t want anybody to post back. Senseless.

See Yuz.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: luckee on November 21, 2002, 07:09:16 PM
How is it spam?

There is PM.

It makes perfect sense if you go back and read what the point of the thread is. It didnt state not to post, but rather..."(This is a thread for people to list some of their controversial beliefs which may be offensive to others not to attack someone for their beliefs. If you disagree with someone take it up with them in a PM or start another thread called "Controversial Belief Disagreements" or something)"

So I guess the answer to my original question is yes, at least when it comes to you anyway.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: SirMystiq on November 21, 2002, 08:49:36 PM
kool finally a thread for me!!

1.) like everyone else said, i think the US government is the most corrupt and evil one of them all. why because i think they planned the whole terrorist attacks. They make people choose what they government wants, but people think they chose it. theres no such thing as "freedom of speech". and last but not least they wont admit theres aliens.

2.) White people are not the "majority" anymore

3.) Ja rule cant act or rap.

4.)Kirsten dunst is one ugly female.

and finally

5.) MGS2 was not all that

well thats it i can feel the bashing coming soon.............
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: bigrob on November 22, 2002, 12:43:03 AM
Not too deep but anyway.
- Fat people should be banned from Macdonalds and other junk food places
- Anna Kournikova is one ugly bi*ch (seriosly if I woke up next to that I would feel shame...Penélope Cruz on the other hand, she is soo beautiful)
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 22, 2002, 05:31:27 AM
Quote
Originally posted by luckee
How is it spam?

There is PM.

It makes perfect sense if you go back and read what the point of the thread is. It didnt state not to post, but rather..."(This is a thread for people to list some of their controversial beliefs which may be offensive to others not to attack someone for their beliefs. If you disagree with someone take it up with them in a PM or start another thread called "Controversial Belief Disagreements" or something)"

So I guess the answer to my original question is yes, at least when it comes to you anyway.


I always love when I\'m the exception.

So basically, this topic is about posting stuff that could be found offensive, but then not stickin\' up for it when somebody questions you in front of everybody else in order to guard your own prestige and personality? THAT\'S what doesn\'t make sense.

See Yuz.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: luckee on November 22, 2002, 06:57:17 AM
I think some of the reasoning behind all of that is b/c with everything that can anger/offend, this thread would get quite messy.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: square_marker on November 22, 2002, 12:57:06 PM
-i believe that hippies were among the worst people in the entire world

-the govenment hides information from the public

-there is a secret organization seperate from the countries of the world which trys to moderate the earth

-an asteriod is on a course to smack into earth and nasa knows it.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Titan on November 22, 2002, 01:37:57 PM
I agree with square maker except about the asteroid. Even though it is highly possible, I don\'t believe it because they\'d be panicing in the government and in NASA. Who knows. Besides, they\'d probably have some kind of anit asteriod missle or something :)
-(before anyone thinks i\'m crazy, just hear what I have to say) Crop circles are an excuse for the government to try and make a new weapon. Think about it. Military choppers heard and seen in the middle of the night, radiation, hollow crops and seeds, government payed people to destroy them, a lot of shuttle missions (which are funded mainly by the government). I think the government has some kind of test weapon in space and are testing it in crop fields. It might be a new weapon of mass destruction in early stages.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: videoholic on November 22, 2002, 01:45:01 PM
I think there really is a way to keep hair from ever growing back, but the razor companies are paying scientists from releasing this magic potion.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Titan on November 22, 2002, 01:49:46 PM
Ever hear of Epilstop and spray? That keeps your hair from growing for like 3 months :eek: Anyway, there\'s probably a cure for AIDs but pharmasutical companies are trying to keep it from people. Same with cancer. I say the government should force those companies to release that shit. It should be a law that if it can save your life, it must be released to the public and it must be sold at an affordable price.

EDIT: Right after posting this about AIDs, a popup for aidscureherbal.com popped up. Everytime I mention AIDs, it comes up.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: luckee on November 22, 2002, 01:56:11 PM
maybe you have it and its a sign.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Titan on November 22, 2002, 02:04:22 PM
Haha, that\'s what I was thinking. But I\'m still a virgin *shudders* and haven\'t had the chance to screw anyone yet. Couldn\'t get it through sex then :) It would have to be from hereditary which is out of the question which equals, I don\'t have AIDs :D
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: luckee on November 22, 2002, 02:06:13 PM
ever receive or give blood? got a tattoo..done drugs with a needle? Many things can contribute to getting HIV.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Titan on November 22, 2002, 02:09:07 PM
I\'m 15, can\'t give blood, never recieved blood and don\'t do drugs. I\'m clean :) Hey, when did this topic turn against me? :confused:
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Living-In-Clip on November 22, 2002, 03:15:22 PM
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: shockwaves on November 22, 2002, 03:21:57 PM
Communist?  We are the opposite of communist.  Corrupt?  For sure.  But we aren\'t communist.  That goes completely against the economics our government promotes.  As long as the government is run by the rich, why would it be communist?
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: clowd on November 22, 2002, 03:41:08 PM
Square sucks.

Explain this please
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: luckee on November 22, 2002, 04:07:00 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Clowd
Square sucks.

Explain this please



Since you cant follow SIMPLE directions, lets try again

PM THEM OR START ANOTHER THREAD
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Living-In-Clip on November 22, 2002, 04:08:44 PM
Square is over-rated trash. Gimmie a break. I compare Square to pop music. It\'s high production value\'s and cliche\'d outta the ass.

As for my communist remark - I should narrow it down. We are suppose to be free. We aren\'t. THere are so many limits that limit our freedom that seems often our steps are guided by the goverment ..
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: clowd on November 22, 2002, 04:09:56 PM
Quote
Originally posted by luckee



Since you cant follow SIMPLE directions, lets try again

PM THEM OR START ANOTHER THREAD


What do you have against me?  

Nobody said anything about Shockwaves reply so I thought it was fine to ask about an opinion.  

But you go after me?

EDIT:  Thank you for the reply LIC
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Psycomantis101 on November 22, 2002, 04:18:35 PM
Read my signature.

I also think that the goverment sux and it delivers empty promises. If i lived in afghanistan i would probably hate the us too. While they were fighting Russia i think it was ( dont jump on my back if im wrong) The United states aided them by sending weapons, food and variouse supplies. After the war Afghanistan was nothing but a pile of rubble. The united states goes ther and "promises" to help rebuild. Before keeping that promise they searched the land for natural resources. There was none. America packed up and left. That is why afghanistan is still a pile of rubble today.

Second topic: Aliens. The human kind. (mostly mexicans) Personaly i have no problem with them and neither does the government it seems. The government actualy profits from them being here. How? well mexicans usualy come here to get work to send money back home. The us dollar is much more valuable in mexico than in the US.  WEll in order to get work they need a social security card. They spend alot of money on theese fake cards. When they find work they work thier as5es off. Since they have a social security card they also PAY TAXES. But unlike you and me who are tax payers they never get a tax return check. What happens to thier money when its not collected, The Government keeps it.

The CIA and Mafia murderd JFK
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: shockwaves on November 22, 2002, 06:21:45 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Living-In-Clip

As for my communist remark - I should narrow it down. We are suppose to be free. We aren\'t. THere are so many limits that limit our freedom that seems often our steps are guided by the goverment ..


Yeah, communist isn\'t the word at all to describe that.  Oh well.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Titan on November 22, 2002, 07:14:10 PM
I have to agree with what LIC said. I started to think about the origin of AIDs and now i think it\'s man made. It came from no where but how did we create it? The way it spread from the gays is there were gay people that had sex with women and carried on from there. There is a cure. I know it. This \'research\' is a smoke screen. The only thing I don\'t agree with is the UFOs. Sure, the probably are government made. Hell we even made some of ourselves and they flew. UFOs aren\'t just flying saucers. They are any unknown craft. Aliens had to come here some how. A ship is the only way.

I think that there will be a war one day between us and an alien race and we will get raped in the first battle. But who knows what our government has. We have so many top secret projects, we might even have perfected star fighters.

I find it too strange that no other country is allowed weapons of mass destruction, chemical and biological weapons but we are stockpiled on every single one. Somethings going to happen. Its just a matter of time.

Aliens live among us. My French teacher definitly isn\'t from Earth (thats a joke btw ;) )

Religion is a way of keeping people in line and distracting them from projects or anything our government is doing. If people are occupied worshipping and praying, they won\'t worry about things in the government or even think about it. Its a smoke screen.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: SirMystiq on November 22, 2002, 07:23:02 PM
if we humans think were the "most intelligent" living thing on the planet, why is it that everysingle discovery we made was an accidents, we just stumbled up on it tryint to figure out how to kill ourselves. such as the periodic table was created because it was neater for scientist to use when creating new xplosives. and if were really that smart, why are humans the only specie that kill each other for fun, no other specie does this unless its for hunger or somethin. we humans kill each other just to get rid of them.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Titan on November 22, 2002, 07:37:03 PM
Humans are the stupidest things ever created. We think we\'re all that but we are just animals with a bigger brain.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Ace on November 22, 2002, 08:00:53 PM
I think people who hate this country and don\'t vote should take the next plane to (insert filthy third world country here).

I think the Xbox is a viable system.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: THX on November 22, 2002, 09:08:12 PM
- I think people on this board have been watching too much X-Files.

- If you think America has the most corrupt government in the world you\'ve been watching too much X-Files and not enough History Channel.  Watch some horror stories from Russia, China, Korea...

- If you\'ve been watching too much X-Files & think that episodes are true you probably have paranoia/schizophrenia and should look into taking Prozac.

- Aliens from other planets- nah I don\'t think they exist.  If they do then that\'s cool.  But I\'m not adamant about this one way or the other like some are.

- I think the US has too much involvement in the mid-east but that place was a cespool to begin with.  I\'ve heard stories about them that blew my mind from friends who were stationed there in the Air Force.

- I think America should have a sh*tload of weapons considering it\'s the superpower and all.  When a country is defeated in war they must basically give up anything they have militarily.  This included Germany, Japan, etc..  This should also include Iraq, and even the US if it is defeated in war.

- I replied cuz I was bored. :(
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: square_marker on November 23, 2002, 03:08:19 PM
-i believe the govt pays off science labs across america to not release some cures.  they make to much money off of treatment
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Jumpman on November 23, 2002, 03:52:02 PM
-I believe some other country has poisoned all americans by making them ridiculously paranoid...(for good reasons maybe?)

-Square does suck.

-The Beatles are the most overrated band ever.

-Aids originated from apes/the monkey kingdom. Not that radical since its already been proven...

-Nirvana is the greatest band ever.
Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: jiggs on November 23, 2002, 04:27:58 PM
The republicans and thier cheating ways. When is the US going to wake up and decriminalize herb?
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Title: Radical and Controversial
Post by: Black Samurai on November 23, 2002, 06:47:33 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Doomy
-Aids originated from apes/the monkey kingdom. Not that radical since its already been proven...


-AIDS has not been proven to have originated in the ape/monkey kingdom. HIV is pretty much the same thing as SIV(A simian virus) but it has not been proven to have originated there. Still a debated topic. <<<