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Title: College Football thread
Post by: KillaX on November 16, 2002, 04:11:59 PM
OSU Buckeyes still Undefeated they beat Illinios 23-16 on OT.

it should have been no OT but the ref Messed up a Touchdown call early in the game, and the penalties early cost them also....but they won none the less!

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Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 16, 2002, 04:20:54 PM
From what I heard, Illinois got screwed in OT.

Anyway, if you\'re getting the Red Raiders Longhorns game, you\'re gettin\' some thin\' special. Kingsbury has 6 TD passes, over 400 yards passing, 5 minutes left...42-38 Red Raiders, Their ball after Simms 1st INT throw :)

LETS GO RED RAIDERS! I NEED ONE GOOD TURNOUT!

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on November 16, 2002, 04:23:19 PM
Illinois didn\'t get screwed at all.  Replays backed up both incomplete calls in the end zone.  Both were the right calls.  The bad call was early in the game.  OSU had a TD, but it wasn\'t called that way, and they ended up with a FG.  There never should have even been an OT.

GO BUCKEYES!
Title: College Football thread
Post by: KillaX on November 16, 2002, 04:40:17 PM
DArn Straight Shockwaves!  Wolverines Youre NEXT!!!!!!!!



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Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 16, 2002, 04:42:33 PM
Hahaha, yeah right. I bet those Wolverines are scared of a team that they\'ve historically dominated, and that bearly squeaks by mediocre opponents.

KLIFF KINGSBURY, AND THE RED RAIDERS DEFEAT THE #3 TEXAS LONGHORNS 42-38. ROAR!

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on November 16, 2002, 04:52:18 PM
Clarett will be back for that game though.  You don\'t think that will make a difference?
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 16, 2002, 04:55:49 PM
Of course it will. Just not enough :)

Clarett is good, I will grant you that, but he really hasn\'t played in a bit. If he doesn\'t play, he\'s rusty. Michigan will be up to the task to stop him. Michigan has only had one really bad game this year, and that was against Iowa. Now, with that subject, I still think, that after today, that Iowa would beat the hell out of Ohio State.

Oh, and for a large opinion: Brad Banks will win the Heisman :)

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: KillaX on November 16, 2002, 04:57:17 PM
clarett was ready during todays game......they didnt need him tho.....he was all suited up.........cant wait for next weekend!

Now if the Browns could start winning........

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Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 16, 2002, 04:58:21 PM
Meh, more like the next two weeks. Tony gets 2 weeks to brag and prance before that game happens. Ass...I have to throw SOMETHING in his face...

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on November 16, 2002, 09:09:32 PM
Michigan coming into the shoe and winning, hmmm.  Its about 5 times harder to beat us at home.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 16, 2002, 10:36:14 PM
Well, they seem to be pretty damn good at it, don\'t they?

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on November 17, 2002, 08:06:57 AM
I don\'t know why I didn\'t put two and two together but Texas Tech did lose to the Buckeyes.  And Texas Tech did beat Texas.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 19, 2002, 03:16:03 PM
They beat Texas Tech in Columbus. Good for them.

Texas got beat in Lubbock, which is one damn hard place to play, contrary to popular belief.

Yes, I am reviving an old topic, but it has to stay alive until Saturday, so I can openly mock all Ohio State fans once Michigan rolls over them ;)

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: KillaX on November 19, 2002, 03:19:09 PM
in your dreams!!!!!
Michigan has NO CHANCE!


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Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 19, 2002, 03:26:24 PM
Har, well, they didn\'t in \'95 and \'96 either, did they :)

Ahh, my Huskers....7-5, and have to win out in order to preserve their 9 win season streak. Doesn\'t look good...

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on November 19, 2002, 03:27:02 PM
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
They beat Texas Tech in Columbus. Good for them.

Texas got beat in Lubbock, which is one damn hard place to play, contrary to popular belief.

Yes, I am reviving an old topic, but it has to stay alive until Saturday, so I can openly mock all Ohio State fans once Michigan rolls over them ;)

See Yuz.


And Columbus isn\'t a hard place to play in?
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Proud To Be on November 19, 2002, 04:13:39 PM
Michigan VS Ohio St. Good game, I say it comes close to a score of about 21-17 Ohio.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: unfocused on November 19, 2002, 06:00:25 PM
If the Big Ten actually had a Championship game, OSU would be knocked off the #2 BCS throne and Washington State would move up to play Miami in the Fiesta Bowl...barring a disaster.  Iowa is the best team in the Big 10, but they won\'t get a chance to prove it, hell they\'re 7th in the BCS.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on November 19, 2002, 06:05:51 PM
That\'s because the BCS is complete crap.  It has screwed up for two years in a row, and there\'s no way there won\'t be controversy if OSU or Miami lose this year.  We need to decide the title game by the polls, or better yet, get a playoffs system going.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on November 19, 2002, 06:15:31 PM
Unfocused, its easy to say that because you don\'t have to back it up.  Since Iowa never plays them you can throw that card out there over and over.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on November 19, 2002, 06:39:00 PM
Ohio State is gonna beat Miami, just watch.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ben_high on November 19, 2002, 06:55:28 PM
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Theres the one from last year missing.Me thinks they are just waiting for the sixth one then they\'ll add em both at the same time.:D
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 19, 2002, 07:40:16 PM
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Originally posted by The Hurricane
Ohio State is gonna beat Miami, just watch.


I said the same thing about Nebraska last year after all of the controversey unfolded. Look what happened.

Tony, I never said Columbus wasn\'t hard place to play. Nice job of putting words in my mouth there, bud. Sure, it might be a hard place to play, but when it comes to Michigan, that hasn\'t been true at all.

Yes, we can\'t prove that Iowa\'s better, but we can compare. Ohio State, with Lydell Ross, had to have a strong 4th quarter to beat Northwestern. Iowa Beat Northwestern 63-21, and didn\'t score in the 4th quarter.

Another little stat, as much as we LOVE the lovefest with Maurice Clarett, I would like to mention that Iowa\'s Top back has rushed for more yards than Maurice Clarett. Now, you can bitch about the fact that Clarett was injured. Would you like to know WHY he got injured? Because quite frankly boys and girls, HE\'S NOT READY. You can say that all of the close games that OSU has played in, they didn\'t have Clarett. Bullshit. Half of those close games, he was in, and when he wasn\'t, he was nursing his sore shoulder, praying that he was still in High School, not getting touched.

Back to Chemistry Homework. See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on November 19, 2002, 08:31:09 PM
First of all James, I wasn\'t putting words into your mouth.  I was just pointing out that if you can make that point in one situation, you can apply it to this one to.  The fact is, past Ohio St. teams have had problems with past Michigan teams.  Well guess what?  These aren\'t the Ohio St. and Michigan teams of 95 and 96.  The fact is that Ohio St. beat Michigan at Michigan last year.  Since then, Ohio St. has clearly gotten better.  Michigan hasn\'t.  They have the same number of loses they had going into the Ohio St. game last year.  Stuff may have happened in the past, but that\'s done and over with.  These are different players, these are different teams, and you can\'t just assume that the same things will apply this time around.  

And who gives a shit how much people won games by?  Ohio St. has played tougher teams, and they haven\'t lost.  Iowa has lost.  There is a reason why margin of victory was taken out of the BCS.  A win is a win.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 20, 2002, 05:42:32 AM
No, there ISN\'T a reason why margin of vicotry was taken out of the forumula -- it\'s bullshit. It doesn\'t matter if you beat a tough team like Michigan in their house by 3, or, say, 22, like Iowa did earlier in the year.

This Michigan team is much better than those \'95 and \'96 teams, just take a look at their records. They had growing to do in those years, and they actually built off that \'96 win against OSU, and won the national title...and beat OSU the next year in the process :)

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on November 20, 2002, 01:01:10 PM
Of course Clarett is nursing that shoulder.  He had a bad injury that won\'t be healed till next season.  Say its because he\'s a freshman and what not, but we all know if he played 100% all year no running back would have compared to him in stats.

And Clarett wasn\'t 100% in half of the close games they played in.  Have you even been watching the Buckeyes?
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 20, 2002, 01:54:49 PM
No Bozco, I just bitch about them and all of their close games all the time, but I don\'t watch a damn play *rolls eyes*

Next year? He claims that he\'s 100% going into Saturday, and he was borderline to play against Illinois, and probably could have. I still think that Lydell Ross should be the starter, simply because he has more seniority, and probably could have held up the 13 game season better, but then again, he got injured, too.

I\'m not saying Clarett is a bad running back, far from it, I\'m just saying that some of this hype is a bit, oh, undeserved. Hell, he hasn\'t even broken the Ohio State Freshman rushing record set by Robert Smith in 1990. Did Smith get as much hype as Clarett is now? Didn\'t think so.

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on November 20, 2002, 01:57:52 PM
Clarett was on pace to do amazing things so of course he was hyped up.  Hell, he\'s a freshman that can tear through any defense when 100%.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 20, 2002, 02:05:38 PM
There have been freshman before him that have done much better. Overhyped, in my opinion. Not yours of course, Just like you think Eddie George deserved the Heisman :-P

If I had my choice of Ahman Green as a Freshman or Maurice Clarett as a Freshman, you know who\'d I\'d take :)

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on November 20, 2002, 02:49:31 PM
If you mix our opinions you would get a happy median that is about right. :)
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 20, 2002, 03:50:48 PM
Maurice Green!

...Hey, isn\'t that the name of that track star who is claimed to be "The fastest man in the world"?

Coindicence? Hmmm....

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Terry Bogard on November 20, 2002, 04:14:04 PM
OSU blowing michigan away? Not likely after last weeks shitty gameplay.  God, where the **** was OSU\'s defense last week?
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on November 21, 2002, 02:32:02 PM
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
I\'m not saying Clarett is a bad running back, far from it, I\'m just saying that some of this hype is a bit, oh, undeserved. Hell, he hasn\'t even broken the Ohio State Freshman rushing record set by Robert Smith in 1990.



He has stated he\'s playing the Michigan game so he quite possibly could break it this weekend.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 21, 2002, 02:50:57 PM
Well, Michigan has always had a good defense, so who knows, maybe he won\'t. Then again, he\'ll probably break it on one run, then get like 20 yards the rest of the game.

As for tonight, GO PITTSBURG! BEAT THOSE CANES!

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ben_high on November 21, 2002, 07:53:12 PM
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas

As for tonight, GO PITTSBURG! BEAT THOSE CANES!

See Yuz.


So sorry,looks like the canes are going to win......again.

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Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on November 21, 2002, 08:25:51 PM
I can see it now, the Canes played tough and won.  They need to pull their lips off of Miami\'s ass.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: square_marker on November 22, 2002, 01:14:03 PM
My wolvs will come out of the gate and scare the hell outta OSU.  When michigan and ohio state get together...anythign can happen.  try me on this.  it has happened before... it will happen again ;)
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 22, 2002, 02:47:37 PM
Well...Pittsburg was ball thrown a foot lower from sending that game into Overtime, and it didn\'t happen.

If Pitt would have gotten that TD...I would have gone for 2. That would have scared the shit out of them.

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: KillaX on November 22, 2002, 09:17:43 PM
well today is the day it is put-up or shut up for OSU they better win.....they should win, coach Treschel will do what cooper could never do and that is beat Michigan 2 years straight!


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Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on November 23, 2002, 09:58:49 AM
Whoever has said that Clarett will be rusty or won\'t make much of a difference...he\'s proving you wrong already :)
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on November 23, 2002, 12:23:26 PM
OH!  OH!  OH!  Fumble!  Recovered by OSU!  This could be the game!
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on November 23, 2002, 12:36:55 PM
BUCKEYES WIN!  BUCKEYES WIN!  THEY BEAT MICHIGAN.  BIG 10 CHAMPS...NATIONAL TITLE GAME, HERE WE COME!  WOO!!!
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on November 23, 2002, 01:13:32 PM
GO BUCKS

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Title: College Football thread
Post by: KillaX on November 23, 2002, 02:55:59 PM
Oh HEll yeah!  I was working during the game...I was on pins and needles at the end..........and then BAM Intercepted!
13-0!!!!!!!  Undefeated Season!


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Title: College Football thread
Post by: square_marker on November 23, 2002, 02:59:07 PM
:(   michigan played a soild game... i dont care what ne one says
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on November 23, 2002, 10:24:20 PM
The game seemed close like all of the last Buckeye games but the Buckeyes played better football this time and Michigan still kept it close.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on November 23, 2002, 10:29:10 PM
Michigan is a better team than Illinois and Purdue, of course.  The thing that really impresses me, looking back over this season, is the OSU defense.  If they beat Miami, the defense will have to come up big.  This defense held #3 WSU to one score, held Penn State, who dominated in their game today (Larry Johnson with like 277 yards and 4 scores in the first half alone!) to one score, and held LJ to 66 yards, and now they held Michigan, the #9 team in the country, to only a few field goals.  Not bad at all.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: square_marker on November 24, 2002, 09:08:29 AM
Well michigan did do one of the things i said they would.  They scared the hell outta OSU with a instant classic.  All i gotta say now is, LETS GO MIAMI
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on November 24, 2002, 10:20:11 AM
Your not a true football fan there square_marker.  You have to root for Big Ten teams in the bowl games.  If the Buckeyes win it all it gives Michigan and the Big 10 instant respect.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 24, 2002, 04:48:40 PM
Yes, that was a great game.

"What a game" is all I said when Navarre was picked off with 1 second left. That game had everything, Krenzel running for his life on big plays, Clarett busting through holes and coming up with clutch plays, great stops, things like that.

Michigan totally outplayed Ohio State in the first half. If they could have simply gotten the ball into the end zone once, they win that game. Instead, 9-7 at halftime, and most of the 2nd half.

When Krenzel made that scramble on 3rd and 10 that got it to 4th and inches, I knew Michigan was doomed. Sure as shit, Clarett with the 25 yard catch, then they finish it off. Michigan battled, though. That last drive was great, and was probably was the gutsiest thing I\'ve seen in a while. 4th and 10, their own 20, bad snap...Navarre throws an 11 yard dart. Gamble\'s pass interference, and then having the ball at the 25 with 1 second left, and one chance...pure greatness.

Well, as far as the national title game goes...if Miami makes it, I either don\'t watch it or root for Miami. If Miami does in fact lose, and Oklahoma makes it (which is a possibility), then I root for Oklahoma. Iowa should be #4 or #3 in the polls, and if OU were to lose to Colorado, and Miami were to lose to Syracuse or Va Tech...Iowa vs. Ohio State in the Fiesta Bowl!

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: clowd on November 25, 2002, 01:52:02 PM
You cant beat Miami if you score only 30 points in your last 4 games

Thats why Miami is going to walk to yet another national title with realitve ease
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on November 25, 2002, 02:41:26 PM
They played 2 of those games without their best player, and their main offensive force.  Clarett was also playing with some pain on Saturday, and he still had a decent game.  He\'ll be totally healed by the Fiesta Bowl.  Miami escaped against Pittsburgh, and they have looked very vulnerable against the run at times this year.  Besides, OSU\'s defense is, if you ask me, the best in the country.  They held Washington State, Penn State, and Michigan to a combined 2 touchdowns.  Miami gave up more than that to Rutgers.  Miami has had just as many close calls as OSU, but they have played worse teams.  You people who say that Miami will walk all over OSU must be only watching the highlights and looking at the statistics.  By the way, if you actually have watched the games, you\'d know that Krenzel is the most clutch QB in the country.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ben_high on November 25, 2002, 02:57:24 PM
Just watch the highlights?I\'ve watched every single UM game that\'s been played in the last fifteen years.Every single one of em.Blind devotion to OSU isn\'t going to help them,nor is your hatred of UM.

Miami is not weak against the run.You would only get that impression if you only watch the highlights.UM only plays 7 in the box to stop the run,when you do that teams are going to get a few big runs but they are not going to beat you over the top since you can always keep 2 deep safties.Miami\'s defensive philosophy is basicly don\'t let them beat you with deep passes,then string together three good stops somewhere in the opponents drive and make them punt.

But enough of that.I don\'t have the time to sit here teaching the basics of football.I\'m just going to leave you with this.OSU has had a fantastic undefeated season,that\'s not easy and they have without a doubt earned the chance to play for the national championship.But Miami is closing in on three full years without a loss.That\'s domination.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: clowd on November 25, 2002, 03:00:23 PM
Its sad when the best team you play all season is ranked # 9

Those 3 teams you mentioned dont have a offense like Miami\'s

Miami played worst teams?  Their close calls came to Florida State and Pittsburgh,  which I consider quite better then Illinois  

Miami was toying with the Rutgers
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 25, 2002, 03:07:20 PM
Ben, Agreed.

However, against Florida State, Miami gave up 206 rushing yards to Greg Jones, and were yet ANOTHER missed Field Goal away from losing at home to a team that has cheated their way into a BCS Bowl bid (ACC Tie In Fiasco).

Speaking of Florida State, Chris Rix is yet again the starter of that team. They play Florida on Saturday, in the game of underachieving powerhouses. Crying shame that Nebraska can\'t be down there, either. Adrian McPherson dismissed from the team for unspecified violation of team rules...it\'s been a sad year for some perennial powers.

Oh, and the BCS is screwed yet again this year. Even after the losing by Washington State, Iowa, who\'s #3 and #4 in the Polls, will be #5 in the BCS, behind Georgia and Oklahoma. The Computer Rankings have Iowa at #6 and lower, even though they only have one loss to at what the time was a good Iowa State (I am convinced that team died after the Texas game).

Oh well, Rivalry Week continues this week. Colorado comes to Lincoln, and Nebraska will fight for their pride after Colorado stripped it away last year. Nebraska is 7-7 in their last 14 games, counting that Colorado game last year, including losses to Oklahoma State, and the Iowa State team that died. Meh.

Go Huskers, woo....

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on November 25, 2002, 03:46:04 PM
First of all, Ben, I wasn\'t referring to you when I said that, I was referring to Cloud.  I have watched several Miami games: Florida, Florida St., Pittsburgh, Rutgers, Boston College, West Virginia, and Tennessee.  What I saw was them get torn apart by the West Virginia run game.  I saw Florida St. run on them all game, and lose only because of a blown kick.  Miami is not as unbeatable as they were last year.

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Originally posted by Clowd
Its sad when the best team you play all season is ranked # 9

Those 3 teams you mentioned dont have a offense like Miami\'s

Miami played worst teams?  Their close calls came to Florida State and Pittsburgh,  which I consider quite better then Illinois  

Miami was toying with the Rutgers


Cloud...so what if they highest ranked team we\'ve played is ranked #9?  The highest Miami has played is ranked #11.  We also played the current #12 and 14, while the next highest ranked team that Miami played is #18.  

Yeah, of course Florida St. and Pittsburgh are better than Illinois, but Rutgers isn\'t.  They gave a decent game to Miami too.  You can\'t just pick out your best teams, match them against our worst, and say your schedule is better.  And by the way, the trio of Michigan, Washington St., and Penn St. is better than the trio of Florida St., Florida, and Pittsburgh.  The rankings will back that up.  Miami hasn\'t beaten any teams that qualify as a quality win in the BCS.  The buckeyes beat one, and are one spot from beating a 2nd.  They beat 3 teams in the BCS top 15.

And Miami was toying with Rutgers?  Fine, but were they toying with Florida St. or Pitt?  Miami came closer to losing this year, and in all honesty should have lost to FSU.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: clowd on November 25, 2002, 03:59:28 PM
Iowa and Oklahoma Should play for the second best title whatever that is.  

2 undefeated teams should play for the title.  Even though both should have been beat multiple times they somehow came out undefeated

Iowa and Oklahoma are the best 2 teams in the nation imo
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on November 25, 2002, 04:12:21 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd
Its sad when the best team you play all season is ranked # 9



So Washington State wasn\'t #3 for the longest time.  And Oklahoma could be better than all of them but that one loss screws ya, tough luck.  I suggest that they got 13-0 like the buckeyes.

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You cant beat Miami if you score only 30 points in your last 4 games


Idiocy, only looking at some facts are we.  How about name a team that Miami has played that had better defense than OSU.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: clowd on November 25, 2002, 04:15:25 PM
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Originally posted by Bozco


So Washington State wasn\'t #3 for the longest time.  


Yeah I thought about them 2 mins after I posted

Well,  they\'re number 3 only because their only lost came to Ohio State.  Parasite....
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on November 25, 2002, 04:28:35 PM
I think their high ranking had less to do with the fact that they only lost to OSU, and more to do with the fact that they beat USC, Arizona St., and Oregon.  Plus their loss came early in the season, which helps.  

And I think that right now, there is absolutely no question that Miami is the best team in the nation.  I\'m not trying to argue that.  I do think that they can be beaten though, and I think Ohio St. is a team that could do that.  I also think that Iowa is better than Oklahoma, might be better than OSU, and have the best chance to beat Miami.  Too bad the BCS hates them.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: videoholic on November 25, 2002, 07:31:18 PM
Not one mention of the loser Ohio State people rioting?

How pathetic.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on November 26, 2002, 09:44:07 AM
Even more pathetic, a grown man who doesn\'t think before he talks.  Most of the rioters weren\'t even students of OSU.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 26, 2002, 01:54:04 PM
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Originally posted by shockwaves
I think their high ranking had less to do with the fact that they only lost to OSU, and more to do with the fact that they beat USC, Arizona St., and Oregon.  Plus their loss came early in the season, which helps.  

And I think that right now, there is absolutely no question that Miami is the best team in the nation.  I\'m not trying to argue that.  I do think that they can be beaten though, and I think Ohio St. is a team that could do that.  I also think that Iowa is better than Oklahoma, might be better than OSU, and have the best chance to beat Miami.  Too bad the BCS hates them.


Oregon\'s lost 3 or 4 games at home this year. Arizona State passed for 540 yards on them, Washington scored 42 on them, which was just flat-out sad. Then again, Washington is a team on fire right now. Whoever faces them in a bowl - probably going to get the shit beat out of them.

Arizona State folded at the end of the year. Got beat down by California after losing to Washington State (Sorry Cory). Arizona State ALSO lost by 38 to, of all teams, Nebraska. Granted, it was the beginning of the year, but it still happened.

I really don\'t know why we\'re talking about Washington State -- they\'re out of the picture, Gesser is gone, and they\'re #9 in the polls. They\'re a good team, but they blew it, too.

Ohio State has absolutely no chance against Miami. They match up pretty well, but Clarett would HAVE to be healthy to be a factor, and he would have to be a factor. Miami isn\'t going to give up 4th and 2\'s late in the game with 40 yard TD passes, simply not going to happen. Miami has faced some stiff competition, Pittsburg being the best team they\'ve played so far, in my opinion, simply because Pittsburg didn\'t create a lot of turnovers, they simply played WITH Miami, and not many teams can say that this year.

As for Stregnth of Schedule, how the hell can you blame Miami for this? These schedules are determined 5 to 7 years in advance. When you have Virginia Tech, Florida, Tennessee, and Florida State on your schedule, you have to assume that those powerhouses are still going to be good. As for Ohio State\'s stregnth of schedule, it blows. They play in a weak conference, where everybody knocks each other off, anyway. Granted, they played Michigan and Washington State at home, but come on, at home! Play a high quality team on the road! I can garuntee that without that huge fanbase, they\'re in a lot of trouble. They\'re just like Nebraska, basically -- they\'re a completely different team at home rather than on the road.

As for this rushing the field business, it\'s all good fun...until somebody gets hurt. Last Saturday, we had 6 incidents of people getting hurt by tearing down the goalposts. It\'s fine when you do it after a really big win, but come on, Cal tears them down after beating lowly STANFORD? Clemson does it against a crumbling South Carolina? Come on.

That\'s the end of that rant, Go Huskers this Friday. Nyah.

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on November 28, 2002, 06:21:27 PM
Kiss of death
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Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on November 28, 2002, 07:40:58 PM
Nebraska got Crouch on the cover before the Colorado game last year...ugh.

Screw SI. Rick Reilly can die.

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on December 02, 2002, 07:39:37 PM
Ahh, gotta hate it.

Nebraska loses 28-13 to the Buffs. Fire 3 assistants, one who had been with the program since 1973, and Solich Steps down as the Offensive Coordinator.

And the BCS...god.
1. Miami
2. Ohio State
3. Georgia
4. USC
5. Iowa


What the hell is up with that? Gotta love that BCS, pissing people off since 1998.

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on December 02, 2002, 07:47:34 PM
Iowa should be #3.  No question.  How the hell is USC, a two loss team, ahead of them?  It\'s bullshit, plain and simple.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on December 03, 2002, 02:25:23 PM
Though it is bullshit, gotta admit that USC looks tough as of late.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on December 03, 2002, 02:40:45 PM
But do you not think that Iowa looked equally impressive?  I think they could beat Miami, and yet there is a two loss team ahead of them :(
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Fayded on December 03, 2002, 08:23:50 PM
USC - hottest team in America. Carson Palmer is tearing it up.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on December 04, 2002, 05:26:43 AM
Idiocy. The hottest team as of right now is Kansas State. After their 17-14 loss to Texas in overtime, they\'ve beaten Iowa State by 51, Nebraska by 36, and Kansas by 64.

That, and they BEAT USC during the regular season. Their only losses were at the time to #3 Texas and #12 Colorado.

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: jinxx on December 04, 2002, 06:44:45 PM
Miami vs. Iowa National title
after that i dont care because 2nd place is first loser
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on December 04, 2002, 07:01:55 PM
Pfft.  Ohio St. is in the national title game, and should be.  Iowa lost...they didn\'t.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on December 05, 2002, 03:31:37 PM
Tony, Jinxx knows nothing of football. He only gets his jollies by rubbing it into Husker fans that they had a bad season. Has absolutely no clue as to what he\'s talking about.

Anyway, Go Hokies. Beat those Canes!

See Yuz.

Edit: Tony, wasn\'t dissin\' on you :-P
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on December 05, 2002, 05:28:04 PM
Edit: I\'m a moron.  Go Huskers.  Go Buckeyes.  Go Good Guys.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on December 05, 2002, 06:13:06 PM
Dude...what?

I wasn\'t talking about you, I was talking about Jinxx. I was quipping in to his stupid comment...

Way to take it the wrong way :-P

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on December 05, 2002, 06:14:46 PM
Meh, I\'m tired.  Go Huskers.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on December 06, 2002, 05:38:38 AM
Now I\'ve seen it all.  When looking at the BCS poll on ESPN.com I noticed that the NY TIMES has USC at #1, then Maimi and OSU behind them.  Now thats just idiotic, a two loss team ranked higher than two undefeated teams.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on December 06, 2002, 05:44:09 AM
Which just proves my point that the computers that determine who goes have absolutley no clue as to what they\'re talking about. Like it or not, the Northeast is NOT a big College Football land by any means. The fact that papers from New York and other writers from the East Coast determine this kind of thing is disturbing.

Bah...time for school. Be back in a while.

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on December 06, 2002, 01:24:28 PM
If they\'re gonna use papers, they should take one from a city in each conference.  Like an SEC city paper, a Big 12 city paper, a Big 10 city paper, etc.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: square_marker on December 07, 2002, 10:57:00 AM
come on va tech.....avenge last year!
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ben_high on December 07, 2002, 12:37:26 PM
McGahee has 6 touchdowns already in this game and theres still almost a full half of football left.Wow.He\'s really ompressed me today,as well as alot of heisman voters.I think this game just won it for him,even though i don\'t think he deserves it.

BTW why does everybody hate Miami?
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on December 07, 2002, 01:01:22 PM
I don\'t hate them all that much.  I wanted them to lose earlier for two reasons though.

1. I wanted an OSU Iowa fiesta bowl
2. I wanted more BCS problems, so they can see even more how they need to get rid of it.

The first of those is imposible now, due to the screwed up nature of the BCS, but the 2nd isn\'t...or wasn\'t.  Miami\'s got this one won.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: square_marker on December 14, 2002, 09:41:20 PM
square rejoices, neither miami players won heisman!!!

in your face #4 mcgahee and #5 dorsey     bottom of the barrel for you 2!!!  

woop woop
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on December 14, 2002, 10:08:36 PM
Banks was robbed :(
Title: College Football thread
Post by: square_marker on December 14, 2002, 10:28:11 PM
i agree, he was robbed.   i think leading a team such as Iowa is a little harder than leaded a team such as USC to a great season.  But, that\'s critics for ya, never know what  their thinking.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on December 17, 2002, 10:04:14 AM
17 days and counting!!!
Title: College Football thread
Post by: unfocused on December 17, 2002, 12:23:38 PM
Im pretty sure McGahee and Dorsey were 4th and 5th because they were both on the same team, therefore their votes got split in half basically.  You can\'t really argue with the kind of numbers Palmer put up, but if you give the Heisman to Crouch, then Dorsey should\'ve got it.  His career was far better than Palmer\'s.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on December 17, 2002, 01:17:18 PM
Career means nothing, it was this year.  And this year, Palmer, Banks, and Johnson were ALL better than Dorsey or McGahee
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on December 17, 2002, 02:11:16 PM
And last year, Crouch was better than Dorsey.

Scott, stop bitchiing about College Football. You have no right to.

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: clowd on December 20, 2002, 12:34:27 PM
It doesnt matter they will all play in the NFL

OK who do you pick and what do you think the score will be

Miam/Ohio St.

Washington St./Oklahoma

Iowa/USC
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on December 20, 2002, 12:39:57 PM
OSU

Oklahoma

Iowa

I don\'t feel like thinking up a score for each.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on December 20, 2002, 12:50:36 PM
I also pick OSU, Oklahoma, and Iowa.  Go me :)
Title: College Football thread
Post by: clowd on December 20, 2002, 01:08:13 PM
Miami/Oklahoma/USC
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Fayded on December 20, 2002, 02:22:19 PM
Miami - 31-17

OU - 27-13

USC - 34-30
Title: College Football thread
Post by: unfocused on December 22, 2002, 03:31:34 PM
Miami 35-17

OU 21-17

USC 28-27
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on December 22, 2002, 04:26:14 PM
Ohio State 21, Miami 17
Oklahoma 26, Washington State 21
Iowa 37, USC 31

Roar. Go Anti-Pac 10 :)

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on December 22, 2002, 04:59:36 PM
ROAR.  And go us agreeing on all 3 games.  How often does that happen?
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on December 30, 2002, 11:44:56 AM
Haha, bowls up the ass, starting tomorrow.  I can\'t wait for New Years Day.  That\'s when the good ones really start.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on January 02, 2003, 05:33:46 PM
Iowa returns for a TD on the opening kickoff, sweet.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 02, 2003, 06:01:39 PM
10-7, but it\'s looking like Iowa can\'t defend against USC to save their lives.  Come on Iowa.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on January 02, 2003, 07:21:15 PM
10-10, and apperantly, the Line of Scrimmage was bought by USC in an auction before the game. Iowa can\'t be within one yard of it, or else they\'re offsides of it. However, USC can be over the damn thing, and it\'s fine.

Between Iowa\'s turnovers and missed opportunities, and these IDIOT announcers, I just about want to throw a brick at the tv :-P

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: clowd on January 02, 2003, 07:23:31 PM
USC has dominated Iowa. = they will win and my prediction will be true

Oklahoma over Washington ST

USC over Iowa

Miami over Ohio State
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 02, 2003, 07:43:36 PM
Pfft.  There\'s still a half to be played there Clowd.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: clowd on January 02, 2003, 09:03:51 PM
wow Iowa is getting swollowed up 31-10....hehe

Reminds me of how tommorows game will be like.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on January 02, 2003, 11:58:11 PM
After 2 minutes I knew how that game was going to end.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 03, 2003, 04:04:13 AM
Clowd-you wish
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on January 03, 2003, 06:55:47 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Bozco
After 2 minutes I knew how that game was going to end.


How?

Iowa at that point was up 7-0, and albeit USC would tie it up in about 14 seconds, they  never had the lead in the 1st half. Iowa had PLENTY of chances to rack up more points before halftime, but kept giving the ball back to USC. In turn, they only got into halftime tied, and proceeded to get the shit beat out of them.

If anything, Brad Banks looked like Jammal Lord. He was bad.

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Fayded on January 03, 2003, 11:53:46 AM
Ahh

*remembers when Tony said Iowa was the team he thought had the best chance of beating Miami*

*remembers when James said USC was overrated*
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on January 03, 2003, 02:49:09 PM
Quote
Originally posted by ROL Jamas


How?

Iowa at that point was up 7-0, and albeit USC would tie it up in about 14 seconds, they  never had the lead in the 1st half. Iowa had PLENTY of chances to rack up more points before halftime, but kept giving the ball back to USC. In turn, they only got into halftime tied, and proceeded to get the shit beat out of them.

If anything, Brad Banks looked like Jammal Lord. He was bad.


You know what I mean, the second USC charged down the field I could see how that game was going to end.

OSU (http://espn.go.com/ncf/bowls02/s/fiesta_maisel0102.html)
Title: College Football thread
Post by: KillaX on January 03, 2003, 03:30:53 PM
OSU will beat Miami.........miami has been lucky all year...their luck will run out tonight!




:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 03, 2003, 06:48:28 PM
7-7!

Ohio St. has been playing with Miami, in every way.  They have two interceptions, and Miami can\'t run it at all.  Go Buckeyes!

Edit: BUCKEYES FORCE A FUMBLE, AND CLARETT TAKES IT IN FOR THE SCORE!!!

14-7 Buckeyes!
Title: College Football thread
Post by: mjps21983 on January 03, 2003, 06:57:30 PM
Buckeyes got this in the bag if it keeps goin like this
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 03, 2003, 07:04:17 PM
And who thought anyone would be saying that?  They dominate Miami\'s run game, cause 3 turnovers, and are winning by a touchdown at halftime.  They have all of the momentum...this is great.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: KillaX on January 03, 2003, 07:10:03 PM
I am LOVING THIS!  keep the momentum OSU!



:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
Title: College Football thread
Post by: KillaX on January 03, 2003, 07:20:46 PM
ok...that was interesting.......cheerleaders kicking fieldgoals....... Ohio State made both of theirs and miami missed both of theirs....it was for charity.......could this be a taste of things to come about the game????????


edit: 17-7 OSU!

:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
Title: College Football thread
Post by: videoholic on January 03, 2003, 08:16:21 PM
Great game so far.  17-14.  As much as I don\'t care for OSU, I HATE MIAMI.  I really have no reason to not like OSU other than my buddy use to go nuts every year at the beginning of the season and then all I could do is laugh every year.

DOh, McGahee with a knee injury?  This could be HUGE!!!!
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 03, 2003, 08:17:42 PM
Yeah, I just saw that.  Buckeyes stop the Canes on their current drive, but Allen with a great hit on McGahee could have hurt his knee.  Wow, I hope he gets back in.

Yep, he\'s out for the game...
Title: College Football thread
Post by: videoholic on January 03, 2003, 08:27:15 PM
OMG.  Thank God for Tivo.  That was one of the Nastiest knee bends I\'ve seen.  That dude is a goner for a very freaking long time.  No wonder they only showed the replay once.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: KillaX on January 03, 2003, 08:52:11 PM
OT!!!!!!!!!   OSU was too lazy moving the ball on their last posession...........

17-17..that missed FG by OSU could come back and haunt them

:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
Title: College Football thread
Post by: videoholic on January 03, 2003, 08:54:28 PM
Yeah.  I thought after they sacked dorsey that they\'d keep them back for a long ass field goal.  Oh well.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: KillaX on January 03, 2003, 08:56:20 PM
they screwed up on the return.....too many missed hits........... Miami gets the ball frst


BTW this is the first OT in BCS history
Title: College Football thread
Post by: KillaX on January 03, 2003, 09:16:08 PM
2OT!  Tied up at 24 apiece!



:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 03, 2003, 09:18:44 PM
Good God, what a game.

My heart has stopped several times this game...
Title: College Football thread
Post by: mjps21983 on January 03, 2003, 09:26:41 PM
woohoo GO BUCKEYES~!!!!!!!!!
Title: College Football thread
Post by: KillaX on January 03, 2003, 09:34:05 PM
YES! OSU wins in Double ot with a Cleveland Browns-esqe Goal line defense!  OSU are the Champs!  14-0!!!!!!! YESSSSSSS!!! YES!!!!!!!!!! YES!!!!!!!

OSU wins 31-24!!!!!!!!!

:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 03, 2003, 09:34:28 PM
/me orgasms

OSU!  NATIONAL CHAMPS!  WHO\'S OVER RATED NOW FUCKERS?
Title: College Football thread
Post by: videoholic on January 03, 2003, 09:36:30 PM
Goal Line Defense and a blown pass interference call.

I was screaming pass interference when Miami ran out on the field thinking they won, but I\'ll be damned if that slow mo didn\'t show that the ball was in the dudes hands before the Miami guy hit him.  And don\'t say he was held anyway because the reciever was shoving the Miami dude way more than anything.

But, I have to say I\'m happy with the outcome anyway cause I freaking HATE MIAMI!!!!
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 03, 2003, 09:39:21 PM
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And calls don\'t win or lose games.  There were questionable calls at other times too.  You just know Miami fans will focus in on that one though, and that\'s bullshit.  

Either way, it doesn\'t mean shit!  OHIO STATE ARE YOUR NATIONAL CHAMPS!  OH GOD WHAT A GAME!
Title: College Football thread
Post by: KillaX on January 03, 2003, 09:40:25 PM
they were 14 point underdogs!  AND they BEAT THE ODDS!



:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
Title: College Football thread
Post by: videoholic on January 03, 2003, 09:40:40 PM
dude, it was 4th down in overtime.  THey have every right to bitch about it.  Total blown call.  But MIAMI LOST!!  WOOOOOHOOOO!!!!!!
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 03, 2003, 09:42:47 PM
pfft.  Time doesn\'t matter.  It was close enough to be a reasonable call.  Like you said, it looked like it in real time.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: KillaX on January 03, 2003, 09:44:44 PM
my predictions are coming true!   now the browns need to beat pittsburgh!



:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
Title: College Football thread
Post by: SwifDi on January 03, 2003, 09:53:29 PM
WOOT! GO BROWNS!
Title: College Football thread
Post by: KillaX on January 03, 2003, 09:59:48 PM
HAHAHA! all of the people who bet on Miami are whining on MIRC!!!!!!!!!!!!



:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 03, 2003, 10:01:13 PM
I bet $20 on OSU with someone...and they gave me 2 to 1 odds :)
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Fayded on January 03, 2003, 10:46:02 PM
And this shitty excuse for a sports year continues...
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on January 03, 2003, 10:47:06 PM
HAHA, shitty excuse haha.  Single greatest football game ever.  **** ALL OF YOU BUCKEYE DOUBTERS

Maybe I\'ll go back and quote Video

NATIONAL CHAMPS
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 03, 2003, 10:49:57 PM
Hell yeah.  I couldn\'t have asked for it in a better game.  Double overtime national title game, that is won on a goalline stand, after Miami has first and goal at the 2.  

This football year not only isn\'t shitty...it\'s shaping up to be the greatest ever.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on January 04, 2003, 12:10:33 AM
Quote
Originally posted by Clowd
wow Iowa is getting swollowed up 31-10....hehe

Reminds me of how tommorows game will be like.


Quote
Originally posted by Clowd
You cant beat Miami if you score only 30 points in your last 4 games

Thats why Miami is going to walk to yet another national title with realitve ease


Quote
Originally posted by jinxx
Miami vs. Iowa National title
after that i dont care because 2nd place is first loser


Very interesting, Clowd you\'re my hero.

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Ummmm.........BUCKEYES!!!
Title: College Football thread
Post by: luckee on January 04, 2003, 01:14:28 AM
The ref blew  that game :mad: :mad: That was Miami\'s win :(

I do have to tip my hat to OSU tho, great defense was played the entire game!
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on January 04, 2003, 01:23:44 AM
Easy to blame it on a call that definently could have gone either way.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: luckee on January 04, 2003, 02:07:28 AM
The reciever was obviously hit after he touched the ball.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: videoholic on January 04, 2003, 05:51:25 AM
You will see no one deny that that was a blown call, but I don\'t care.  MIAMI LOST!!!!

Notice how I\'ve never said Ohio State won.

Because I don\'t care.

MIAMI LOST!!!!!!!
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on January 04, 2003, 07:09:39 AM
Im so glad just because Miami lost... w00t, even the greatest teams are mortal.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 04, 2003, 10:39:54 AM
Quote
Originally posted by luckee
The reciever was obviously hit after he touched the ball.


It was obvious only when you saw it in slow motion on the replay.  In real time, it wasn\'t obvious at all.  What was obvious though...even if pass interference wasn\'t called, there should have been at least defensive holding before the ball was even thrown.  So stop whining.  Calls don\'t make games, Ohio St. deserved to win, Miami didn\'t, and OSU are your champs, no matter what you have to say about that.  Besides, it isn\'t like Miami didn\'t have a shot after that.  They did, and they blew it.

:)

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Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on January 04, 2003, 11:04:50 AM
I was going to post the same pic for them, nice.  OSU outplayed them and I had no doubt they would.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: videoholic on January 04, 2003, 12:17:25 PM
Quote
Originally posted by shockwaves


It was obvious only when you saw it in slow motion on the replay.  In real time, it wasn\'t obvious at all.  What was obvious though...even if pass interference wasn\'t called, there should have been at least defensive holding before the ball was even thrown.  So stop whining.  Calls don\'t make games, Ohio St. deserved to win, Miami didn\'t, and OSU are your champs, no matter what you have to say about that.  Besides, it isn\'t like Miami didn\'t have a shot after that.  They did, and they blew it.

:)

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No way.  The receiver was not being held at all.  If anything he pushed the cover guy.  I watched that play over and over again on TiVo.

Along with McGahees knee injury.

People, there is a reason they only showed that replay once.  That was one of the sickest injuries I\'ve seen in years.  His leg was completely bent in the wrong direction.  So freaking nasty.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on January 04, 2003, 02:58:58 PM
We could also discuss Gamble\'s catch that was ruled out of bounds on the drive before.  That would have ended the game right there.  See, calls go both ways.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: luckee on January 04, 2003, 03:24:15 PM
Quote
Originally posted by shockwaves


It was obvious only when you saw it in slow motion on the replay.  In real time, it wasn\'t obvious at all.  What was obvious though...even if pass interference wasn\'t called, there should have been at least defensive holding before the ball was even thrown.  So stop whining.  Calls don\'t make games, Ohio St. deserved to win, Miami didn\'t, and OSU are your champs, no matter what you have to say about that.  Besides, it isn\'t like Miami didn\'t have a shot after that.  They did, and they blew it.

:)

 


It was obvious in real time, least to me and even the 2 OSU fans that were in the house. The receiver was not being held. period. You think this is whinning? hahahahah..please. People only say calls dont make games when their team wins. EVerything that happens in a game makes games..including the calls...good or bad. NOt once did I say OSU didnt deserve to win, I even gave them their respect.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on January 04, 2003, 03:26:51 PM
luckee whats your response to mine.  A blown call earlier kept Miami in it too so it definently goes both ways.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: luckee on January 04, 2003, 03:30:21 PM
I didnt respond to you b/c I vaguely remmeber that play. If it is the one on my mind, I\'ll have to agree that it was also a bad call.



PS. Vid: Stil mad about the gator/canes game earlier in the year? :D
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 04, 2003, 09:07:28 PM
Quote
Originally posted by luckee


It was obvious in real time, least to me and even the 2 OSU fans that were in the house. The receiver was not being held. period. You think this is whinning? hahahahah..please. People only say calls dont make games when their team wins. EVerything that happens in a game makes games..including the calls...good or bad. NOt once did I say OSU didnt deserve to win, I even gave them their respect.


I was saying the exact same thing during the Kings Lakers series last year, if you\'ll remember.  And I hate the Lakers, and really wanted the Kings winning that.  I think I\'ve already proven that I take this position no matter what the outcome.

And Bozco is right.  Gamble was in, and it does go both ways.  And it did in this game.  OSU won, and they deserved to win.

And I still think there was defensive holding on that play.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: videoholic on January 05, 2003, 06:48:19 AM
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Originally posted by luckee

PS. Vid: Stil mad about the gator/canes game earlier in the year? :D


Hell no.  I never expected Gators to do shit this year.  I\'ve just always hated Miami.  Everyone in FL outside of Miami hates Miami.  It\'s not just me.

At UF, 70% of the people were from Miami. It was ridiculous.  And all they ever talked about was how great Miami was.  Well I have been in Miami a heck of a lot of times and the place is a shit hole.  Outside of South beach (Which is only 1 block deep.  You go west one block and you step in a shit hole), there is nothing!!  I use to go to Channel 4 all the time, which now is channel 6.  Right in the middle of nastiness.  Do they still have the Miami arena or did they tear it down?

They had a real nice arena, but it was in a shithole area of town so they built a brand new one on the water in hopes to get people to come to the basketball/hockey games.

Oh and on top of that, you make one wrong turn and you will never see an english person again.  Hell, you make some right turns and you won\'t see anyone who speaks english either.  

Ft. Lauderdale is pretty nice, but Miami is a shithole.

My unbiased opinion of course.

Prepare to be unstuck college thread.  You are over.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: clowd on January 11, 2003, 01:15:39 PM
I have to dig up this thread and put my 2 cents in.

Both teams are overrated.

Clarrett is overrated.

USC or Oklahoma could beat any of them.

It took 5 Miami turnovers for OSU to have a fighting chance. Pathetic.

OSU did CRAP the whole game.  They played have descent defense the whole game and Dorsey was off with his passes.  

Again both teams are overrated.  Both should have been beat multiple times in the regular season.

The refs sucked.  Period.  3 and 7 2:30 left buckeye ball Gamble is held no call. 4th and 5 overtime gamble runs a post route.  A referee is 5 feet from the play.  He says incomplete pass.  But some other ^#&# 20 yards away runs up 5 seconds later (ESPN timed it) and says Pass intereference.  If you think that was pass interference you are a @$#^@ because it was not.  And they did not callholding they called it about the contact AFTER GAMBLE TOUCHED THE BALL.  THAT WAS THE MOST HORRIBLE CALL MADE WITH SO MUCH ON THE LINE.  EVEN GAMBLE LOOKED GUILTY AFTER THE PLAY.  He wasnt pleading for a pass intereference.  When they called it he had such aguilty look on his face,  not a happy pleased one.  Thatis all the proof you need not to mention there was a ref 4 feet from the PLAY and he DIDNT CALL IT!

I give the OSU coach credit he makes a bunch of Ohio state losers win.  That team has zip talent.  I could name ten running backs in the country that are better then CLarret

again, both teams are overrated
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on January 11, 2003, 01:25:26 PM
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Originally posted by Clowd
I have to dig up this thread and put my 2 cents in.

Both teams are overrated.

Clarrett is overrated.

USC or Oklahoma could beat any of them.

It took 5 Miami turnovers for OSU to have a fighting chance. Pathetic.

OSU did CRAP the whole game.  They played have descent defense the whole game and Dorsey was off with his passes.  

Again both teams are overrated.  Both should have been beat multiple times in the regular season.


OMG, hilarious.  OSU did crap, ummmmmm.  Maybe, just maybe, OSU caused a couple turnovers, god forbid you think for a second.  Both teams went undefeated the whole season yet they are overrated.  Keep saying it because you were completely wrong about your call on who would win.  Oklahoma and USC lost, OSU didn\'t.  USC would have had somewhat of a chance, but Oklahoma?, uh huh.....yea.  Oh, and yea Clarett is SOOOOOO overrated.  A guy that was hurt very badly during the season and wasn\'t 100%.  Oh, and you could try to expect more out of a TRUE FRESHMAN.

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The refs sucked.  Period.  3 and 7 2:30 left buckeye ball Gamble is held no call. 4th and 5 overtime gamble runs a post route.  A referee is 5 feet from the play.  He says incomplete pass.  But some other ^#&# 20 yards away runs up 5 seconds later (ESPN timed it) and says Pass intereference.  If you think that was pass interference you are a @$#^@ because it was not.  And they did not callholding they called it about the contact AFTER GAMBLE TOUCHED THE BALL.  THAT WAS THE MOST HORRIBLE CALL MADE WITH SO MUCH ON THE LINE.  EVEN GAMBLE LOOKED GUILTY AFTER THE PLAY.  He wasnt pleading for a pass intereference.  When they called it he had such aguilty look on his face,  not a happy pleased one.  Thatis all the proof you need not to mention there was a ref 4 feet from the PLAY and he DIDNT CALL IT!


Watch it again, the guy was holding before the pass was up and was still holding once the pass was released.  So take your pick on which way OSU gets a first down.  Either holding or pass interference.

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I give the OSU coach credit he makes a bunch of Ohio state losers win.  That team has zip talent.  I could name ten running backs in the country that are better then CLarret


Ohio State losers win, the hate begins.  On behalf of the best team in the country, we\'re sorry.  And we\'ll see how truly horrible Clarett is in the next couple years.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: clowd on January 11, 2003, 01:31:25 PM
I never said Clarret was horrible just that heis overrated. Good he didnt go to the NFL this year

Im talking about the overtime pass Interference call,  if you think the defender held,  .... Im speechless.  Not to mention there was a ref 4 feet from the play and he didnt call it.

The look on Gambles face said it all.  He knew he was not held or interfered with.  

Also 5 seconds after the play?
Title: College Football thread
Post by: ROL Jamas on January 11, 2003, 01:55:59 PM
Ahh, College Football animosity.

And now OSU knows what it\'s like to win a title. Criticized left and right, and hell, in about 2 months, in some way, shape, or form, the Columbus police will find out that Maurice Clarett raped 3 women and had sex with a goat -- even though it\'s fairly evident that it isn\'t true :p

Go Huskers. Whole shitload of changes in Lincoln. Yar.

See Yuz.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 11, 2003, 02:35:15 PM
If USC or Oklahoma were the better team, they wouldn\'t have lost 2 in the same time that both these teams lost 0.  Just shut your mouth Clowd, and stop whining.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: clowd on January 11, 2003, 02:38:50 PM
OSU sneaked by Washington State and Oklahoma blew them out.  Need I say more?  Better record never = better team.  You should know that.

I\'m not whining.   When the Rams lost the superbowl I took it hard,  but agreed the Patriots beat them fairly.  This game was so full of it.  And put that stupid BCS system ontop of it which its only purpose is to create alot of bowl games for more money. Isnt it always about money

Anyways,  Im not going to lose sleep over this.  Sports are made for peeps to have fun. That is all.  Win or lose,  just have fun
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 11, 2003, 02:49:19 PM
Who gives a shit how they won the games.  Comparisons like that mean shit.  OSU won 25-7.  OU won 34-14.  That\'s only a 2 point difference to begin with.  The fact is, OU lost twice.  That IS what matters.  OSU is the better team.  They went through an entire season, playing many highly ranked teams, and never lost.  OU lost not even just once, but twice.  So did USC.  You have no arguement.  

And how does the BCS try to make more bowl games for more money?  They just took the 4 main bowls that already existed, and determined who plays in them.  That\'s all.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: Bozco on January 11, 2003, 03:31:50 PM
I must say shockwaves avatar is sweet.
Title: College Football thread
Post by: shockwaves on January 11, 2003, 03:33:10 PM
:)

My avatar is teh win!!!!!11one