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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: Capcom on December 06, 2002, 10:42:53 PM
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Take it for what it\'s worth, but IGN is reporting a possible merge between Sega and everyones favorite developer Capcom.
http://ps2.ign.com/articles/379/379557p1.html
I enjoy Sega games, but as my screen name denotes there is only one king. A merge with a company that has been lackluster the past few months has me extremly worried. What is everyone\'s thoughts on this?
Fact or Fiction? Ign was right about rare if I remember correctly.
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That\'s quite odd.
I remember Ashford, just a few days ago brought up that he would love to see this, elsewhere (http://www.gametrigger.net/message/viewthread.php?tid=448).
And I must say, the idea of the two greatest developers of all-time working togeher would be pretty decent news IMO.
But I certainly don\'t see it happening any time in the future.
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Something is going to happen for sure, but what i dunno. Rumors run throughout the net about some merges in Japan. It may be a fake but many webs speak about that deal and other like Nintendo buys Sega and Capcom, M$ buys capcom, or a possible merge between Capcom, Sega, Konami and Namco (do you imagine that company working for a system?).
There are rumors, and when there are is because something could happen.
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Could be good.. Lets hope Capcoms 1337ness can rub off on SEGA, cuz sofar IMO they are VERY overrated.
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Sega are incredibly over rated. They have produced an AAA since the days of the Dreamcast, which was before they became software only. Sega Rally 2 was the last AAA game they\'ve made.
Shenmue 2 stinks, so does Sega GT 2002, nothing is worth owning. Hopefully Capcom can pull them into line.
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You are forgetting about Virtua Fighter 4.
Shenmue 2 is one of the greatest games ever made.
And let\'s not forget Super Monkey Ball 1/2.
And there are lots of other solid games (such as Jet Set Radio Future etc.) that just may not be your taste. Or that are your taste, but you haven\'t given them a go.
Sega are arguably the best developers ever. The fact that they are in a slump is no reason to call them "overrated".
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Bob, I regard Sega as being a has been. Its not a case of once the greatest always the greatest, they, IMO, haven\'t proven themselves for awhile, considering the only thing they have to do these days is dev games and not dev hardware.
Either that or they have just ran out of ideas.
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These are just rumours, just like a few days ago there was a rumour about Microsoft buying sega.
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Kurt, there also were rumors about Sega making only games, M$ buying rare, or a deal between Enix and Square...
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Sega are incredibly over rated. They have produced an AAA since the days of the Dreamcast, which was before they became software only. Sega Rally 2 was the last AAA game they\'ve made.
Shenmue 2 stinks, so does Sega GT 2002, nothing is worth owning. Hopefully Capcom can pull them into line.
How can u say Shenmue 2 stinks ? Thats just gay to say :(
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What are you talking about Racer? How many Sega games have you played since the MegaDrive? Virtua Fighter 4 is the best fighting game ever made, Shenmue 2 is one of the most brilliant games ever made, period. Not to mention JSRF, Super Monkey Ball, Rez, Shinobi, PSO, soon to be Panzer Dragoon.
And this is all as they are transitioning from 1st party to 3rd. They\'ve never done this before, and they are trying to pump games out as fast as possible to make back some money (hence all the ports and rehashes). Wait \'til next year, I can guarantee you they are working on some more masterpieces.
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i love Sega and like capcom... so whatever they wanna do is cool with me. i would like to see capcoms games have a touch of Sega in them. it could make for an interesting game.
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its still gay to say that Shenmue 2 stinks :/
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Geeze, don\'t be homophobic. How can it be "gay" to say something stinks?
"OMFG! Your gay! You said shemnue 2 stinks! OMFG!"
Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
Anyway, after the Square Enix merge, I wouldn\'t count anything out.
IMO, Sega merging with a company like Capcom would be the best decision they have made in a long time.
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:eek:
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Bob, I regard Sega as being a has been. Its not a case of once the greatest always the greatest, they, IMO, haven\'t proven themselves for awhile, considering the only thing they have to do these days is dev games and not dev hardware.
Either that or they have just ran out of ideas.
Could it be that since they no longer develop for one piece of hardware they are trying to get use to the multi-platform thing?
IMHO each console has had atleast 1 good game with varying degrees of success.
JSRF was cool, but without enough audience.
Super Monkey Ball 1, and 2 are just awesome. I think it is probably their best success in quite some time.
Shinobi , and Virtua Fighter 4 are great. To me it seems as if though Sega has alot of problems working with the ps2. You could not ask anymore so far as the gameplay goes. If only the graphics were better. :(
Point being they just have not hit a comfortable spot yet. Once they get the programming on all the systems becomes more natural. I hope to see the Sega of old once again.
As a side note I think that the reason some of their newer games being short is their learning curve. They have not been weined into this situation. They were thrust into it! :mad:
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Originally posted by nataku
Geeze, don\'t be homophobic. How can it be "gay" to say something stinks?
"OMFG! Your gay! You said shemnue 2 stinks! OMFG!"
Do you realize how stupid that sounds?
Anyway, after the Square Enix merge, I wouldn\'t count anything out.
IMO, Sega merging with a company like Capcom would be the best decision they have made in a long time.
I guess it sounds as stupid as to say that Shenmue 2 stinks :)
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hmm, I wonder how that would turn out seeing that Capcom is pro GameCube and Sega is pro Microsoft. :/
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Capcom takes over Sega - would be nice. Maybe Sega could get some better games out - as they have been lacking lately.
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Hmmm.... Sega bashing on a PS2 board... either there are a lot of bitter PS2ers mad because they aren\'t getting Sega\'s best, or there are a lot of people who have no business playing videogames period. Sega games wise and worth wise are way huger than Capcom. This deal would benefit Capcom more than anyone.
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Originally posted by EThuggV2
Hmmm.... Sega bashing on a PS2 board... either there are a lot of bitter PS2ers mad because they aren\'t getting Sega\'s best, or there are a lot of people who have no business playing videogames period. Sega games wise and worth wise are way huger than Capcom. This deal would benefit Capcom more than anyone.
yeah they could now get round to making a decent Resident Evil game.
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As long as it doesn\'t use DMC\'s controls, I\'m fine with any RE. REmake and RE0 kick ass!
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Originally posted by EThuggV2
Hmmm.... Sega bashing on a PS2 board... either there are a lot of bitter PS2ers mad because they aren\'t getting Sega\'s best, or there are a lot of people who have no business playing videogames period. Sega games wise and worth wise are way huger than Capcom. This deal would benefit Capcom more than anyone.
Amen
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actually, sega is the one that needs a crutch
thier long term projects have achieved piss poor [© 2001 ooseven] sales
and this coming from sega whore, no less
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Originally posted by mm
actually, sega is the one that needs a crutch
thier long term projects have achieved piss poor [© 2001 ooseven] sales
and this coming from sega whore, no less
:eek:
Sega will be wanting you to turn in your Gun & badge for a coment like that ;).
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Sega has been in debt for how long now? And the average sales of their games equal out to what? They barely have a pot to piss in - and I like Sega. I\'m just open to the fact that since Sega went third party their quality for the most part has went completely down hill.\'
Capcom on the other hand is a company that constantly provides excellent support to multiple consoles and has great sales.
The only way I see it helping Capcom is the fact that they may be able to get ahold of some classic Sega franchises and add a \'special touch\' to \'em.
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Sega hasn\'t been in debt for awhile now, and sales aside, some of the best games they *ever* made have been on Xbox and GC. Oh, and Segas financial assets (ie worth) are easily 3x that of Capcoms. Capcom is a franchise whore, that milks everything excessively. Maybe you all forgot how shitty their finances were not that long ago that forced them to cut staff and sparked the 1st round of MS buyout rumors? Convenient.
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Sega is profitable once again and their games are selling well. The problem is that Sega expected to become the #1 3rd party publisher very quickly and it just hasnt happen. They are making money again just not the amount they were hoping for.
ANd all this talk about Sega not making quality games is rubish. Sega games are as good as the player is. If you arent a very good gamer ur not going to enyoy most Sega games. Sega is an old school gamer\'s company if your gaming skills arent all that good u will never thrive at their games. If u want easy accesible dumbed down games go play the games of the competition and leave Virtua Fighter 4 and Shinobi to the hardcore gamers.
Astro :P
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Sega has put some of their best games out on the Xbox and NGC? What are you on? Other than Super Monkey Ball 1 & 2 , they\'ve put nothing compelling out on the NGC. As for the Xbox - the only decent game so far has been Shenmue 2 and I still prefer the DC version. There is always Panzer Dragoon: Orta - but after that, what? The rest has been crap.
Since Sega has went third party they have only put out a handful of good games.
VF4
Shinobi
Monkey Ball 1 & 2
As for Capcom\'s finances - yes they took a hit earlier in the year due to other reasons . The whole Japanese market is in turmoil and everyone is taking hits. However, Capcom is still doin\' pretty damn good and are still providing AAA games for more than one system - which equals sales and sales equal money.
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lol... Gun Valkyrie, JSRF, HotD3 and PSO all kick ass. More ass than any you mentioned except Shenmue 2. Well.. ok, HotD3 doesn\'t kick more ass than any of those, but it\'s good. JSRF was a masterpiece, and Gun Valk. was one of the best \'sleepers\' of the year.
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some of the best games they *ever* made have been on Xbox and GC
bah, yer showing yer age again
ridiculous
gunvalkyrie = trash
JGRF = port with a few additions (hence they stopped production)
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My age? I\'ve been gaming since before anyone ever heard of Sega.
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then what kind of ignorant remark is that thier *best* games are on xbox and GC?
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HoTD3 was gorgeous but hardly worth owning and HoD2 still owns it.
JSRF killed a possibly great franchise.
GunValkiyre - *yawn*
Oh and let\'s not forget the trash known as Toe Jam and Earl...:rolleyes:
As for PSO - port with a few bells and whistles.
Yeah..that\'s Sega\'s "best" stuff.
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JSRF was perfection. And Gun Valkyrie is just oozing Sega niche hardcore never-gonna-get-recognized-for-its-brilliance-but-is-brilliant.. errr... -ness. You have no right to call yourself a Sega fan if you didn\'t *love* these 2 games.
Outside of Splinter Cell (maybe) JSRF is the best game this year. VF4 is shit compared to it, and Shinobi is in the same boat as GV, both in quality, and perception.
Jet Set is already a great franchise. And while we talk quality (not finances), all of Segas DC games count too, they are this gen, and count in any argument over Segas quality this gen.
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Shenmue stinks...and it isn\'t gay. In fact, Shenmue 2 will most likely be last ShenMue game. I don\'t think it did well on Xbox either...all the F.R.E.E crap are pure hype. Heck, GTA3:VC is a F.R.E.E.er game than ShenMue wil ever be.
That aside, SEGA has only produced 1 good game so far on the PS2 - VF4. The rest are just plain crap.
Anyway, I won\'t be suprised if CAPCOM take over SEGA. SEGA has sold it\'s stake in CSK(previously SEGA\'s parent company) and CSK has mentioned that they will release their stock in SEGA "when the price is right". No doubt, SEGA will break free from CSK soon coz CSK has seen the light as they cannot lose anymore money in SEGA after all this years since the days of the Saturn.
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Burn..Burn....BURN!!!!
Shenmue and Shenmue 2 are the greatest...
:(
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anybody heard the rumour or nintendo buying CAPCOM, i know its been around for long, but there is an announcement to be made by nintendo early next week!! http://www.spong.com <<
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It would be the most likely of all, in my opinion. Espically when you consider how buddy buddy Capcom and Nintendo have been as of late. However, I still don\'t even take that rumor with much thought.
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Since Sega has went third party they have only put out a handful of good games.
VF4
Shinobi
Monkey Ball 1 & 2
Where\'s Rez?
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Where\'s Rez?
In the trash bin
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stfu..
:)