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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: luckee on December 09, 2002, 03:35:57 PM
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IMO
1. Sacrificing of freedom in the name of security.
2. Sending hundreds of thousands of young American men to die in Vietnam due to a “perceived” threat of communism taking over the world is pretty cowardly
3. A toss up between random things Stalin and Hitler did.
I should really change this to 5 things, but lets go with 3 for now. Tis open to all discussion except spamming and childishness please.
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None of those would make my list. I\'ll have to think a bit before posting mine though.
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Ethnic cleanout in Bosnia.. UN troops told not to interact.
Japanese "tests" on its on population and the population of China.
Pol Pot.
(not ranked in any particular order.)
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1. Terrorist acts of all kinds, whether it be the 9-11 plane crash, or suicide bombing, all the culprits struck inocents and killed themselves in the process so that they didn\'t have to face retrobution.
2. Vietnam, \'nuff said
3. I\'m gonna have to group together all the child molestors, rapers and sexual deviant crimes in this one. Is there anything more cowardly than attacking a child or woman, I don\'t think so.
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It might just be me, but I don\'t think that terrorism is always cowardly. Not at all. Afterall, one man\'s terrorist is another man\'s freedom fighter. If the circumstances were right, I\'m sure there are terrorists we would, and do look at as heros. Sure, I don\'t agree with their methods, but at least they are doing something for a cause, which no matter what your actions, is less cowardly than believing in a cause and doing nothing.
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I rarely think it is cowardly b/c it takes huge balls of steel to know you are going to die and proceed as planned. How many ppl can say that?
Fastson, Pol Pot is probably my number 4
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but in their mind it wasn\'t death as we know it. By killing all those people they would go to heaven and be greated by a shit load of virgins. How many of you would by weary of doing somthing if you knew that you would be rewarded for it with a gift beyond your wildest dreams. In addition, by dieing in the act they don\'t have to deal with guilt or retrobution by the victim. In the mind of the terrorist their was no downside.
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1. Hiroshima and Nagasaki - Rather then lose thousands of American Soldiers to take Japan the U.S. takes the easy way out and kills hundreds of thousands of Japan\'s civilians.
2. Stalin - He was so afraid of his own people he killed millions of them.
About the perceived threat of Communism taking over the world in the Vietnam war was just war propaganda. The U.S. promised to help any country who wants Democracy. So when South Vietnam didn\';t want communism the U.S. helped them. Just like how U.S. helped Afghanistan fight off Russia. The U.S. gov made up some big thing about communism taking over just to raise support for the war. How was this cowardly?
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Paedophiles And Rapists
The Holocaust
Pol Pot.
Thats my opinion. I don\'t really know much about what happened in \'nam, was too young and I\'m not a yank.
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Originally posted by Clowd
About the perceived threat of Communism taking over the world in the Vietnam war was just war propaganda. The U.S. promised to help any country who wants Democracy. So when South Vietnam didn\';t want communism the U.S. helped them. Just like how U.S. helped Afghanistan fight off Russia. The U.S. gov made up some big thing about communism taking over just to raise support for the war. How was this cowardly?
Propaganda isnt the definition of cowardly, but it is certainly close. The right words arent comming to me at the moment (kinda preoccupied now) It just seems cowardly to me.
As for the bombs in japan, I dont really look at that as cowardice b/c at times of war, you have to do things to win..period.
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1)The holocaust is a big one. Just because people were "different" isnt a good reason to kill them. Individuallity is what makes this world turn.
2)Rapists, molesters, child pornographers. Sick ****s... sick sick ****s
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Originally posted by theomen
but in their mind it wasn\'t death as we know it. By killing all those people they would go to heaven and be greated by a shit load of virgins. How many of you would by weary of doing somthing if you knew that you would be rewarded for it with a gift beyond your wildest dreams. In addition, by dieing in the act they don\'t have to deal with guilt or retrobution by the victim. In the mind of the terrorist their was no downside.
Are you telling me all terrorists have this same belief? I\'ll guarantee you there are athiest terrorists out there...what about them? Besides, not all terrorists die during an act of terror, and there is always the risk of getting caught, and going to jail rather than being killed.
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I\'ll narrow down my terrorist definition, I\'m refering to the terrorist who strike in the name of Allah and exercise Jihad. As for the risk of being caught, well when you\'re in control of an airplane 5 miles above earth, or strapped with explosives, the chance of being taken alive is pretty damn low.
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Of course the chance of being caught alive once in control of the plane is low, but what about the chance of being caught/stopped before you take control?
And what about people who do such things in the name of another religion?
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well the same could be said about Rapest and Child Molestors, the chance of being caught is quite high, but I would not call them brave.
As for people who do things in the name of other religions. They are just as bad, there\'s no seperating these people. In my mind the crusades were just as stupid and meaningless as the current situation we are faced with, if not more so. People doing acts in the name of religion is responsible for all most all the wantonness deaths in mans history.
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The difference though is that a terrorist is doing something for a cause. A rapest or child molestor is just a sick person. Besides, someone like that, I would tend to believe is more mentally sick than a terrorist, and probably not thinking straight.
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true, but some serial rapists/molestors believe they are actually commiting their crime for a reason or cause. Some don\'t even see it as a crime, and find it justifiable.
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Then that isn\'t as much being a coward as being insane.
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possibly, but their acts are cowardly in themselves.
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So would the fire bombing of tokyo, carpet bombing of germany..etc..etc.. right?
In a war, you have to do what is necessary.
The exception tends to be the likes of Saddem Hussein who placed refugee camps near key military installations b/c they knew the US wouldnt bomb them.
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Terrorists in my view are brainwashed, so their acts are neither cowardly nor brave/heroic in any way.
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Brainwashed by who?
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Originally posted by luckee
I rarely think it is cowardly b/c it takes huge balls of steel to know you are going to die and proceed as planned. How many ppl can say that?
Sometimes terrorists don\'t die committing their act (Terry Nicols and (yeah, I speeled that wrong) Timothy McVeigh).
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Sure you die...you just have to be caught first.
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Originally posted by The Stapler
Sometimes terrorists don\'t die committing their act (Terry Nicols and (yeah, I speeled that wrong) Timothy McVeigh).
Nichols isnt ringing a bell right now, but McVeigh is a prime example of a coward. I would have given him alot more crediit as far as big balls if he stayed in the truck.
Plus terrorists are usually fighting some war or another and have to resort to these tactics.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Brainwashed by who?
Whoever trains them to do what they do. From when they were kids they were probably taught that killing themselves for their beliefs will get them into heaven, er whatever they believe.
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Diarhea
Death and Taxes
Bills
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Diarhea
Death and Taxes
Bills
I knew it wouldnt be long b4 someone came in here fukkin around, I just didnt think it would be you.
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This is one of those threads I should really stay out of..
I\'ll just say pedo\'s and women beaters.
*1 more post in the bag*
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1.Holocaust
2.Pedophiles/Catholic Priests and rapists of any kind
3.Last and the most cowardly act in my book would be any form of terrorism, Oklahoma City Bombings to the planes hitting the Twin Towers.
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I\'m pretty sure you can be a pedophile without actually acting on it (and thus, commit a cowardly and vial act)... or are you guys saying even the very deviancy itself is cowardly?
I\'ll say (in no order):
- Any world leader that commands troops to enforce personal agendas (includes Bush Jr, Clinton, Bush Sr., actually, most presidents in my lifetime, Hitler, etc) that can result in any death whatsoever.
- Anyone who eats meat, but wouldn\'t hunt and clean a carcass.... with only a knife, bow and arrow or their bare hands.
- Sexual predators. Men women or children, it doesn\'t matter who the victim is, sexual assaults are cowardly.
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Originally posted by luckee
I knew it wouldnt be long b4 someone came in here fukkin around, I just didnt think it would be you.
Well...sorry. Just about everything people have said are all true.
I\'m a History buff....and three just aren\'t enough. There are tens of bad things I can think of. Actually, a combination of 10 things I could think of. The most that stand out would be as far back as Kublai Kahn.
Kublai Kahn : probably the first Warrior Emperor to use psychological warfare against his foes. His armies not only defeated his enemies, but also slaughter millions of people who weren\'t even warriors. This act of violence spread faster than the news of defeated armies.
Pol Pot/Stalin/Hitler : that\'s three right there.
Vlad IV, prince of Walachia (aka Count Dracula) : to the Romanians, he was the George Washington/Stalin of his time. He kept the advancing Turks from invading Europe but at the same time, impaled his enemies and his own people just for his amusement. Some say that impaling his enemies and posting them at strategic locations was also a form of psychological warfare : demoralizing advancing enemy troops. Similar to Kublai Khan but at a smaller scale.
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The purging of North American Natives by European Settlers.
Rowandan civil war
Cambodian Killing Fields
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Hmm it seems earlier in this thread, people really had a narrow view of history. If losing our freedom for security is ranked #1 that shows a lot of ignorance regarding events that have happened throughout the history of mankind. I am not trying to slight you Luckee, that one just sticks out in my mind the most.
Anyway, my top 3 -
The Holocaust
Stalins purges
Pol Pot and the Cambodian Civil War.
All of the above were done out of pure evil and were all the cause of a dictators paranoia. Some of the things people have listed really disappoint me.
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What about mine? Huh? Eh? Wot? :)
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No I respect yours Gman - though I was debating going back further in history myself, its kind of hard to relate to things that are dated that far back.
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Unfortunately, psychological warfare is still used today.
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Is this the most cowardly acts or the most terrible things people did in human history?
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
Whoever trains them to do what they do. From when they were kids they were probably taught that killing themselves for their beliefs will get them into heaven, er whatever they believe.
There are plenty of terrorists not trained by a particular organization, and that are also not religious.
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Originally posted by luckee
Nichols isnt ringing a bell right now,
He\'s the guy who help McVeigh build the bomb :)
He wasn\'t given the death penalty, but life in prison w/o parole.
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Why is psychological warfare such a bad thing? It\'s a strategy just like dropping bombs or surrounding the enemy..etc..etc.
We can go far back, but certain things really annoy certain people. Usually it\'s only what ppl remember recently.
If losing our freedom for security is ranked #1 that shows a lot of ignorance regarding events that have happened throughout the history of mankind.-giga
Not really b/c that is VERY cowardly in my book. Thats essentially the same as having matresses against you windows and being holed up in your bedroom with weapons never leaving for fear of dying or what ever. Once we give up freedom for anything, its a cowardice move. Not at all does it show ignorance. You can say you arent trying to slight me,( I know better) so I will just give you the benefit of the doubt untill you start insulting others or myself as you usually do.
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Hitler - His reign of terror...
Hiroshima and Nagasaki (Nobody ever got brought up on crimes against humanity for that one... Interesting, where is the UN on this one?)
Stalin - One sick sob.
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Originally posted by luckee
Why is psychological warfare such a bad thing? It\'s a strategy just like dropping bombs or surrounding the enemy..etc..etc.
The method used in psychological warfare. Slaughtering millions of unarmed civilians as well as women and children is quite cowardly in my book.
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Its just the way I understood how you posted. I dont agree with slaughtering innocents but see nothing wrong with leaving the bodies impaled on sticks. Hell, death is death. Lucky there is a body to be identified :)
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Originally posted by luckee
Why is psychological warfare such a bad thing? It\'s a strategy just like dropping bombs or surrounding the enemy..etc..etc.
We can go far back, but certain things really annoy certain people. Usually it\'s only what ppl remember recently.
Not really b/c that is VERY cowardly in my book. Thats essentially the same as having matresses against you windows and being holed up in your bedroom with weapons never leaving for fear of dying or what ever. Once we give up freedom for anything, its a cowardice move. Not at all does it show ignorance. You can say you arent trying to slight me,( I know better) so I will just give you the benefit of the doubt untill you start insulting others or myself as you usually do.
What you call an insult, others call an observation. Regarding this topic, as I stated, if giving up some freedoms (which I have yet to see identified or how they have impacted anyone) is #1 on your list, it says a lot about you. The title of this thread is misleading as well. It really should be the 3 biggest crimes against humanity since most people are posting those types of things. Vietnam was not cowardly, it was wrong, but not cowardly. The attack on Pearl Harbor was cowardly. There is a fine line between horrible acts and cowardly ones. Not backing up the Cubans rebels during the Bay of Pigs after we promised them support was cowardly as well. Anyway, I don\'t think the title of this thread is really accurate regarding the posts people have made.
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
What you call an insult, others call an observation. Regarding this topic, as I stated, if giving up some freedoms (which I have yet to see identified or how they have impacted anyone) is #1 on your list, it says a lot about you. The title of this thread is misleading as well. It really should be the 3 biggest crimes against humanity since most people are posting those types of things. Vietnam was not cowardly, it was wrong, but not cowardly. The attack on Pearl Harbor was cowardly. There is a fine line between horrible acts and cowardly ones. Not backing up the Cubans rebels during the Bay of Pigs after we promised them support was cowardly as well. Anyway, I don\'t think the title of this thread is really accurate regarding the posts people
have made.
Ask pretty much anyone in here about your comments and Im sure you will be told them same. That they are insults and not just mearly an observation as you would like. Forget the fact that you probably dont know any of the ppl you are "observing".
Who said my freedom comment has affected anyone yet. It just as well may or may not. It certainly isnt on the right track though. Besides, I was speaking generally about freedom vs. security and not the recent events at hand.
I feel nam\' was wrong for many reasons. Look at all of the ppl that dodge that war and moved out of the country our of fear(cowards) only to call our brave men killers. Im also not all that fond of the reasons we even went over there. That was not our war to fight. I believe there to be underlying motives in it all.
Pearl Harbor was a brilliant military move and hardly cowardly. Countries dont exactly announce when they are going to attack someone they are going to war with. All sides knew it was inevitable. As I stated before, I think anything in war(and love for that matter) is fair. Besides, the US forced japan into doing something drastic. There are also reports that the US had shot japenese aircraft down before the event itself, but I dont know how valid that is.
If you think the title is wrong, why dont you place blame where necessary(even though there is none to place) since I didnt make them post what they posted.
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- Geroge W Bush Admin for not agreeing to Environmental issues that would benifit the 3rd world.
- Tony Blair for bing a puppet Prime Minister, who is effectivly Bush Lap dog.
- People who criticise peoples beliefs (That includes Religion on Religion , Religion on Non-religion and Esp Non-religion on Religion)
I find people who do not believe in God or a afterlife that attack people like me with a religious believe ..just as bad as religious bigotry if not worse
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Luckee your pseudo intellectual act is getting old. You must have never participated in a face to face debate, much less participated in a real debate. If you had, you would know that talking to someone IRL is much different than posting in a forum. Quite often people perceive a post completely different than the author intended them too. I am so sorry if I don\'t "know" anyone on here personally - I really don\'t know what the point of that comment was other than to make you feel somehow superior?
One thing I find amusing though is your statement - "Besides, the US forced japan into doing something drastic." Where were you when this topic was debated last week under the popularity of America topic?
Let me give you a little history lesson Mr. Revisionist. The US cut off the supply of war materials to Japan for all the atrocities they committed in their ongoing war with China. So what you are saying is that because the US didn\'t agree with the Japanese crimes against humanity and cut off the steel and oil shipments to Japan that we brought that on ourselves?
Stop thinking everything is a conspiracy - that act is also getting old. Your mistrust of the government sounds almost manic.
Yes I did insult you in this post. You and I disagree on almost everything which is fine, until you start with the personal attacks, which you do in every rebuttal to one of my posts even when I am not talking to you or about anyone in general. So to call me insulting is fine as long as you admit you do the same. Isn\'t that right kettle? I didn\'t blame you for the topic either, are you feeling insecure? I only pointed out some are confusing cowardly with inhumane. In any case I don\'t mind disagreeing or debating a subject with you as long you understand this isn\'t a popularity contest. If you perceive something as being an insult why not ask?
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Luckee your pseudo intellectual act is getting old. You must have never participated in a face to face debate, much less participated in a real debate. If you had, you would know that talking to someone IRL is much different than posting in a forum. Quite often people perceive a post completely different than the author intended them too. I am so sorry if I don\'t "know" anyone on here personally - I really don\'t know what the point of that comment was other than to make you feel somehow superior?
One thing I find amusing though is your statement - "Besides, the US forced japan into doing something drastic." Where were you when this topic was debated last week under the popularity of America topic?
Let me give you a little history lesson Mr. Revisionist. The US cut off the supply of war materials to Japan for all the atrocities they committed in their ongoing war with China. So what you are saying is that because the US didn\'t agree with the Japanese crimes against humanity and cut off the steel and oil shipments to Japan that we brought that on ourselves?
Stop thinking everything is a conspiracy - that act is also getting old. Your mistrust of the government sounds almost manic.
Yes I did insult you in this post. You and I disagree on almost everything which is fine, until you start with the personal attacks, which you do in every rebuttal to one of my posts even when I am not talking to you or about anyone in general. So to call me insulting is fine as long as you admit you do the same. Isn\'t that right kettle? I didn\'t blame you for the topic either, are you feeling insecure? I only pointed out some are confusing cowardly with inhumane. In any case I don\'t mind disagreeing or debating a subject with you as long you understand this isn\'t a popularity contest. If you perceive something as being an insult why not ask?
Dont have time right now, I have to get back to work so this will be short untill later.
I didnt say you blamed me for anything did I?
laters for now.
Most in here can be a witness to how you almost always do the insulting first when it comes to anyone. BTW..when did I insult you in this thread? I dont recall.
popularity contest? WTF??
last week..I was gone..I do have a life outside of ps2xcentral
no everything is not a conspiracy, I dont see where I typed a conspiracy theory.
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Originally posted by luckee
Dont have time right now, I have to get back to work so this will be short untill later.
I didnt say you blamed me for anything did I?
laters for now.
Most in here can be a witness to how you almost always do the insulting first when it comes to anyone. BTW..when did I insult you in this thread? I dont recall.
popularity contest? WTF??
last week..I was gone..I do have a life outside of ps2xcentral
no everything is not a conspiracy, I dont see where I typed a conspiracy theory.
When did you insult me...
"You can say you arent trying to slight me,( I know better) so I will just give you the benefit of the doubt untill you start insulting others or myself as you usually do." Your first post when I clearly said I wasn\'t trying to slight you - that it was the one that stuck out the most. Its like you are trying to instigate... who knows.
secondly your post in the "gay comic" thread which is actually worse and I should have commented on that one there.
As for conspiracy - your underlying motives statement regarding Vietnam. It is quite common knowledge that is was to prevent the spread of Communism as you stated in your first post on this thread.
I am sorry if you feel threatened or insulted in anyway. You get what you give. I don\'t attack everyone. Most of what I post couldn\'t even be considered as such.
Popularity contest - yes you said it in so many words. "Ask pretty much anyone in here about your comments and Im sure you will be told them same" Once again you are relying on others to assert your accusation.
I have yet to see you stick to a debate without insulting me in some way. No the Eminem thread wasn\'t serious. I even went out of my way to say it wasn\'t a slight... *shrugs* oh well... :rolleyes:
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One other horrible event is the US supported coup d\'état of Chile, which lead to the murder of 30 000 + civilians.
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Anyone who has ever beaten their wifes. Those people are the scum of the earth. Vietnam was terrible, although hippies angered me to.
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
When did you insult me...
"You can say you arent trying to slight me,( I know better) so I will just give you the benefit of the doubt untill you start insulting others or myself as you usually do." Your first post when I clearly said I wasn\'t trying to slight you - that it was the one that stuck out the most. Its like you are trying to instigate... who knows.
secondly your post in the "gay comic" thread which is actually worse and I should have commented on that one there.
As for conspiracy - your underlying motives statement regarding Vietnam. It is quite common knowledge that is was to prevent the spread of Communism as you stated in your first post on this thread.
I am sorry if you feel threatened or insulted in anyway. You get what you give. I don\'t attack everyone. Most of what I post couldn\'t even be considered as such.
Popularity contest - yes you said it in so many words. "Ask pretty much anyone in here about your comments and Im sure you will be told them same" Once again you are relying on others to assert your accusation.
I have yet to see you stick to a debate without insulting me in some way. No the Eminem thread wasn\'t serious. I even went out of my way to say it wasn\'t a slight... *shrugs* oh well... :rolleyes:
Giga, I got nothing against you, but Luckee\'s right.
You refuse to argue with either Me nor Tony, simply because of our age. You insulted our intelligence simply because of our age, saying that we knew nothing. You stormed out of that same topic saying that you wouldn\'t argue with people that didn\'t know where they were talking about, even though Tony was coming up with source after source with his argument. He was also acting more mature, which you again held against us due to our age.
Yeah, he is relying on others to assert his accusation, and with good cause. If you really don\'t attack everyone, I don\'t know what you consider attacking. If insulting somebody for their age isn\'t attacking, then give me a definition of what is. Didn\'t know if you noticed or not, but not all people under the drinking age aren\'t stupid. We know what\'s going on arond the world -- we\'re not blind. Don\'t act like we are.
Spread of Communism? Are you calling the USSR\'s Government Communism? I don\'t think you are, might want to clarify that.
See Yuz.
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
Giga, I got nothing against you, but Luckee\'s right.
You refuse to argue with either Me nor Tony, simply because of our age. You insulted our intelligence simply because of our age, saying that we knew nothing. You stormed out of that same topic saying that you wouldn\'t argue with people that didn\'t know where they were talking about, even though Tony was coming up with source after source with his argument. He was also acting more mature, which you again held against us due to our age.
Yeah, he is relying on others to assert his accusation, and with good cause. If you really don\'t attack everyone, I don\'t know what you consider attacking. If insulting somebody for their age isn\'t attacking, then give me a definition of what is. Didn\'t know if you noticed or not, but not all people under the drinking age aren\'t stupid. We know what\'s going on arond the world -- we\'re not blind. Don\'t act like we are.
Spread of Communism? Are you calling the USSR\'s Government Communism? I don\'t think you are, might want to clarify that.
See Yuz.
Sure ROL you and the rest of your clique will back him. I expected that. I refuse to argue with those that revise history. You know who you are.
:rolleyes:
On to the topic... why are you bringing up the USSR? You might want to clarify your remark. We are referring to Vietnam. The USSR was a communist state and supported North Vietnam in the Vietnam War. What is the debate here? There is none.
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I\'m referring to your "The Spread of Communism" remark. Reason I bring it up, is that really, the USSR\'s form of Communism never really WAS communism.
Just found the remark interesting. Thus the question, do you really back that statement, or are you just referring to the US Stated Goal in Vietnam?
See Yuz.
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Oh god now we are going to argue semantics? Stop nit picking. Please... lets keep the thread on track. The USSR was a communist state. It matters not if it was a true form of Communism or not. For the sake of argument purposes it was.
Yes I do stand by my statement that the US was trying to prevent the spread of Communism into South East Asia - thus the Vietnam War. It might not have been the only reason, but it was the most prominent one. Also I never mentioned the USSR until you did. Read my posts... never did I mention the USSR until you brought it up, that is why I asked you to clarify.
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Alright, good for you. I did Clarify. Not arguing that, man.
One more question, though -- what\'s with the attitude? I\'m not trying to make a heated argument out of nothing. Jeez.
See Yuz.
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I used to debate all the time IRL... Some of what I say gets taken a little too seriously as you can\'t see facial expression or body language on a message board. Its not really attitude, its just the way you and others perceive it. Like I said, I am not trying to insult anyone, I am just used to a live forum so to speak.
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Alright, glad that was settled :)
Now, to the Cowardness...I think.
3 most Cowardly Acts in Human History (No Particular Order)
- The Trail of Tears, or anything to do with the Native Americnas during the Westward Expansion
- Holocaust
- Hmm...probably anything to do with a Ruthless Dictator (Milosovec, Pol Pot, Hussein, Stalin, etc.) -- Hitler gets his own.
See Yuz.
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1. Our clique? Please, give it up. As long as you refuse to respect the posts of others, don\'t expect to have your posts receive much respect either.
2. USSR=Not communist. However, it was always referred to as a communist state, so calling it communist only makes it simpler to talk about things like cold war activities. Whether it was communist or not, it makes sense to call it communist in such a situation.
3. The luckee Giga thing...in all honesty, that didn\'t seem like much of a personal attack...really something you should just brush off, or maybe respond to with an explaination. He said he can\'t respect such a position, which is fine. He doesn\'t have to. He then said very clearly that it\'s nothing personal against luckee. It seems to me that he deliberately worded his response in a way that allowed him to get his point across, and that he hoped would avoid angering anyone. I really saw nothing wrong with it.
4. Giga: sure you can use facial expressions :) ;) :o :D. If you\'re trying to post something that you don\'t want someone to take offense to, try adding a big fat :) to the end of it. Seems to help.
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Heh why don\'t we all go back to what was the biggest act of cowardice.. Adam trusting a woman and getting all of us kicked out of Eden. ;) Oh wait that was Vapor in a past life... :laughing:
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Originally posted by shockwaves
1. Our clique? Please, give it up. As long as you refuse to respect the posts of others, don\'t expect to have your posts receive much respect either.
2. USSR=Not communist. However, it was always referred to as a communist state, so calling it communist only makes it simpler to talk about things like cold war activities. Whether it was communist or not, it makes sense to call it communist in such a situation.
3. The luckee Giga thing...in all honesty, that didn\'t seem like much of a personal attack...really something you should just brush off, or maybe respond to with an explaination. He said he can\'t respect such a position, which is fine. He doesn\'t have to. He then said very clearly that it\'s nothing personal against luckee. It seems to me that he deliberately worded his response in a way that allowed him to get his point across, and that he hoped would avoid angering anyone. I really saw nothing wrong with it.
4. Giga: sure you can use facial expressions :) ;) :o :D. If you\'re trying to post something that you don\'t want someone to take offense to, try adding a big fat :) to the end of it. Seems to help.
Ace gets accused of the same thing... lack of smilies... :D
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Ace also seems to be able to explain himself without resorting to insults untill someone else insults him first.
"You can say you arent trying to slight me,( I know better) so I will just give you the benefit of the doubt untill you start insulting others or myself as you usually do." Your first post when I clearly said I wasn\'t trying to slight you - that it was the one that stuck out the most. Its like you are trying to instigate... who knows.
You think that was an insult? ROFL, where are you from? Further more, I wasnt instigating either. I was voicing my opinion on what i perceived you to be doing. I also didnt insult you in the gay comic thread either. You say you want to stay on track in this thread, but you bring up another thread.
Unless you have something to say to me about what I originaly posted whent he thread was started, save your breath and PM me, Im done with this in here. I hate when other threads get ruined and this one is going the wrong way.