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Title: Iran...Nukes?? Hmmm...
Post by: luckee on December 12, 2002, 05:31:06 PM
"WASHINGTON (CNN) -- The United States has evidence that Iran has secretly been constructing large nuclear facilities -- sites that could possibly be used to make nuclear weapons, senior U.S. officials tell CNN."

http://www.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/meast/12/12/iran.nuclear/index.html

Not mentioned in that article is that this information was apparently discovered at the same time as we intitially found out about North Korea\'s nuclear weapons program....all of which was discovered (yet not disclosed) prior to Bush getting war powers against Iraq. Coincidence?

Ok, let me see here: two of the three "Axis of Evil" countries are building Nukes. One has even admitted it. Yet we are threatening war towards the third country, which has no proven nuke program or even pretty satellite photos suggesting that such a program exists. That make a LOT of sense.
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Post by: SirMystiq on December 12, 2002, 05:36:00 PM
^^^^^ yous right!!! bush is just trying to finish what his dad started......
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Post by: videoholic on December 12, 2002, 05:47:05 PM
Iraq will be a breeze.  The other two will need help.  Russia and China will have to help with North Korea next.
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Post by: Ace on December 12, 2002, 06:07:04 PM
Can you guys get your intelligence teams in touch with my team.  

Because my intelligence department is giving me information that is opposite of yours.

Thanks!

Ace
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Post by: SirMystiq on December 12, 2002, 06:08:05 PM
^^^??????
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Post by: luckee on December 12, 2002, 06:15:15 PM
Yes, please elaborate Ace.
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Post by: Ace on December 12, 2002, 06:23:43 PM
How come you guys think we are being told everything. Do you think it\'s possible that there is info that we are not aware of yet.

To assume that our government is putting everything out on the table for all to see is probably naive.

Ace
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Post by: SirMystiq on December 12, 2002, 06:25:30 PM
^^^^^^^^hmmmmmmmmmm.......WORD.
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Post by: luckee on December 12, 2002, 06:29:32 PM
Of course they dont, but that doesnt seem to be the issue with me. If CNN broke the story recently, who knows how long intelligence has known. So why are they not being actively persued or threatened with war. That is the point I was trying to convey.
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Post by: SirMystiq on December 12, 2002, 06:32:51 PM
didnt bush already say hes willing to use nukes?
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Post by: luckee on December 12, 2002, 06:37:01 PM
Ok, what im saying is. Why arent we preparing for war with N.Korea or Iran, 2 countries n the "axis of evil" but go after a 3rd with no proof of having nukes or the capabilities.
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Post by: Ace on December 12, 2002, 06:45:19 PM
We are not going after N. Korea for that reason. They have nukes and the dynamics have changed. This is why it is necessary to stop a country like Iraq from developing such a weapon. We can\'t afford to let this happen with Iraq.

Iran is news to me and I need to read up on it.

SirMystiq,

GWB has let it be known that if Nuclear or biological weapons are used against us or our allies we will not hesitate to turn them into radioactive dust.

Ace

Ace
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Post by: Halberto on December 12, 2002, 06:46:13 PM
If you guys are so sure of yourselves run for president!
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Post by: luckee on December 12, 2002, 06:50:02 PM
If I had millions of dollars, was 100% white, and was 35 years of age, I probably would for shits and giggles.
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Post by: Halberto on December 12, 2002, 06:58:01 PM
I\'m sure you would :rolleyes:
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Post by: videoholic on December 12, 2002, 07:16:46 PM
I think we are more worried at this point with terrorism and these weapons getting into the hands of actual terrorists than we are with countries.  North Korea will have its day, but I think that needs to be led by China or Russia and we ride their coat tails.

Iran should just be leveled.
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Post by: THX on December 12, 2002, 08:52:14 PM
Have you guys seen Fist of the North Star or something similar in the anime department?  It\'s post WWIII and land everywhere is completely desolate due to nuclear war, with leaders beating the sh*t out of people just to get an ounce more power.  Watching these scenes makes me think of the mid east.

Why do these jackasses insist on spending millions to secretly build their sh*thole empire while their people are starving?
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Post by: GigaShadow on December 12, 2002, 09:04:30 PM
It was just a matter of time before most of these countries tried to get nukes.  With the collapse of the USSR we focused entirely  on the actual weapons themselves and pretty much ignored the unemployed Russian scientists who are now helping these countries.  As most have said N. Korea is going to be a difficult matter.  They are upset over the 5 billion in aid we didn\'t give them which some might see as a bribe to stop building their nuclear program and selling arms.  With all that is going on, it sort of makes me wish we still had the USSR around to enforce a detant.
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Post by: mm on December 13, 2002, 04:52:56 AM
actually, the live version of fist of the northstar was pretty damn cool

it had Malcolm McDowell in it, how can u go wrong?
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Post by: ooseven on December 13, 2002, 05:10:11 AM
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Originally posted by mm
actually, the live version of fist of the northstar was pretty damn cool

it had Malcolm McDowell in it, how can u go wrong?


Malcolm McDowell

but you can\'t say a film is cool just because of one actor ;)

its like saying

the matrix

had Keanu Reeves in it, how can u go wrong? :rolleyes:

Keanu "acting more wooden than the amazon rain forest" Reeves



:rolleyes:
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Post by: mm on December 13, 2002, 05:17:49 AM
ugh, only good film keanu ever made was Bram Stoker\'s Dracula , and even then anthony hopkins had to save him
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Post by: ooseven on December 13, 2002, 05:21:39 AM
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Originally posted by mm
ugh, only good film keanu ever made was Bram Stoker\'s Dracula , and even then anthony hopkins had to save him


F£$% even the rats in the asylum had to save him.

Keanu has only 2 modes



I swear he has made in Taiwan stamped on his bottom
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Post by: Samwise on December 13, 2002, 08:14:32 AM
Hey ooseven, have you seen The Gift?
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Post by: ooseven on December 13, 2002, 08:43:04 AM
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Originally posted by Samwise
Hey ooseven, have you seen The Gift?


is that the one were Mr Reaves plays a Serial Killer ?
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Post by: Samwise on December 13, 2002, 08:57:21 AM
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Originally posted by ooseven
is that the one were Mr Reaves plays a Serial Killer ?
He plays an angry redneck wife beater. :bounce:
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Post by: ooseven on December 13, 2002, 09:04:13 AM
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Originally posted by Samwise
He plays an angry redneck wife beater. :bounce:


sorry mate , that one must of passed me by

is it any good ?
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Post by: Samwise on December 13, 2002, 09:08:30 AM
Yeah, it was pretty good. Directed by Sam "Evil Dead / Spiderman" Raimi. And you get to see Katie Holmes\' hooters! :eek: ;)
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Post by: mjps21983 on December 13, 2002, 09:23:42 AM
Well back on topic, Iraq is more of a threat not to really use nuclear weapons on us, yet they wouldn\'t think twice to sell it to a terrorist group and do there dirty work for them. I mean as long as for the most part it doesn\'t trace back to them they are in the clear and we won\'t touch them.

I think this is more about not Iraq being able to use them, but giving them to someone that would and enjoying seeing us blown to shit.

Luckee Iran and N. Korea aren\'t as big a threat as Iraq is too us, besides we don\'t have treaties to my knowledge with either N. Korea or Iran not to build weapons, but with Iraq after we defeated them signed a whole bunch of shit saying they wouldn\'t and since they aren\'t listening we might have to do something about it.

Don\'t get me wrong I don\'t think how Bush is handling is right I think he should take a more conservative approach to it and let the U.N go through there progressions and then if all else fails go in there, but only as a last resort or if we can 100% prove that he has some types of Nuclear weapons.

I don\'t know about some of you, but if that Psycho Hussein had nukes I\'d be very afraid.