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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => PS3 Discussion => Topic started by: ##RaCeR## on December 15, 2002, 04:29:27 AM
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Help, which one do I buy??? I don\'t know!!!
Gimme pros and cons of each. Which one has better graphics? Framerate aweful on both? Hows the gameplay? Which one is harder?
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The Getaway
- Better driving
- Better shooting
- Better story
- Say the F--- word a lot
- British gangster story, kicks ass
- Better graphics
- Progressive scan support
- Somewhat choppy framerate (only when there\'s a lot of cars/pedestrians/smoke on screen), though it\'s usually very smooth
- Much harder
Grand Theft Auto: Vice City
- MUCH more freedom
- Funny as hell
- Framerate is more steady
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I think the Getaway has alot of comedy in it as well :D
I mean, Jake Jolson and that torture scene are hilarious :laughing: ... and when Mark calls Jake a moron....
LOL
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That was brilliant :D
And when they taped the guy up, and started doing Jackie Chan type actions :D
Definately very Brit-Gangster comedy moments.. I wasn\'t really expecting them. :)
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Buy both.
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Exactly what I\'m doing :)
Plus I still got to get Vice City to at least 90% first.
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According to internet, reviews, and magazines GTAVC will give you more fun and gameplay time.
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id say get both, but if u like gta3, get gtavc first, when completed get the getaway
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I haven\'t got the getaway yet, still playing vice city.
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I haven\'t been following either games so I don\'t kow much about them. Can you steal cars in The Getaway? Is it a major part of the game? What about VC, do you still steal cars as the main objective?
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You can steal all the cars you want in The Getaway.
Driving a double decker bus is always fun.
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vice have an increadable since of freedome. I cant compate to getaway since ive never played it, but i can say that you must have Vice, its simply amazing. Not to mention i dont think getaway has motercycles, an those are awesome.
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Getaway is much better, nuff said.
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The Getaway kicks ass
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to be totally honest I\'d save up and buy both...cause you HAVE to.
I\'d say if you prefer realism then get The Getaway if you can\'t afford both, but Vice City is funny down right sick and the fact that you have side missions and loads to do anyway when not doing missions makes it a great and massive game.
I own both and I\'m taking a break from Vice City for a little bit to complete TG with Marc Hammond then go back to VC again and play The Getaway every now and again as Frank Carter in the other story.
I\'m inside Charlies Mansion at the moment and the laser traps are hard to get past.
Jake is a kick ass character, but I really think that Yasmin is one of the strongest characters and apart from Marc, my other favorite, cause like the booklet says, she\'s actually a hurt little girl on the inside.
Seriously though, buy both cause both have great elements to them which you may enjoy playing, and ignore what the reviews say, The Getaway ISN\'T better than Vice City...they are both fantastic in different ways...but thats my opinion.
:bounce: :fro: :smokin:
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Am I the only person on the planet that thinks GTA:VC isn\'t that good?
I played GTA 3 and really enjoyed it, but VC just feels like more of the same old thing.
I\'ve played the first few missions (drive from point "A" to point "B"). I\'ve even tried some of later missions from a mates saved game (destroy a building by planting bombs with a remote controlled helicopter).
After playing from the start I was bored within an hour and am in no hurry to play it again.
Please tell me I\'m not the only one that thinks this game is boring.
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Originally posted by maindodi
Am I the only person on the planet that thinks GTA:VC isn\'t that good?
quite possibly
you see the thing is you have to Give GTA :VC more than just a quick go.
Yes some of the early missions are point A to B , But that’s just the first 3 missions.
After the initial missions are done with , the rest of the city opens up and the wackyness starts.
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Originally posted by ooseven
quite possibly
you see the thing is you have to Give GTA :VC more than just a quick go.
Yes some of the early missions are point A to B , But that’s just the first 3 missions.
After the initial missions are done with , the rest of the city opens up and the wackyness starts.
I\'ll maybe give the game a bit more time. It might be a grower.
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OMG whats happening? i mean sure the getaway is cool but if i was lookin for a simulator that was lame, slow and realistic i\'d go down and rob cars! the slowdowns in the getaway? so true! gets to 20, 22 fps in the NTSC version. The fires are lame and 2d (IMO the only system that can do fire is Xbox).
while in VC what couldbe more fun than raising ur health with a busful of whores? disgusting really but hilarious. VC has thousands of lines of hilarious comments, not to mention it runs at 60, 70 fps. It has more cars, its a lot less complicated, and did u SEE the slaughter scenes? where they pour with blood like a sodding fountain!
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Originally posted by i stole this name
OMG whats happening? i mean sure the getaway is cool but if i was lookin for a simulator that was lame, slow and realistic i\'d go down and rob cars! the slowdowns in the getaway? so true! gets to 20, 22 fps in the NTSC version. The fires are lame and 2d (IMO the only system that can do fire is Xbox).
while in VC what couldbe more fun than raising ur health with a busful of whores? disgusting really but hilarious. VC has thousands of lines of hilarious comments, not to mention it runs at 60, 70 fps. It has more cars, its a lot less complicated, and did u SEE the slaughter scenes? where they pour with blood like a sodding fountain!
arn\'t you banned ?
is so i have the fealing that you will be again
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Am I the only person on the planet that thinks GTA:VC isn\'t that good?
I played GTA 3 and really enjoyed it, but VC just feels like more of the same old thing.
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posted by maindodi today at 10:33am
so true....i enjoyed GTA3 a whole lot more than vice city, sure its fun to drive helicopterz and the apache an all (if not DEAD hard) but what happened to the loads of gangs and crap? and what happened to the stupid cops that would ram into the rhino and explode every 2 seconds? VC requires a lot more concentration...but i gotta say i cant get enough of KCHAT and VCPR, lmao!
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y will i be banned again?
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Originally posted by i stole this name
y will i be banned again?
if you keep misbehaving …yeah :evil:
please read the Newbie FAQ and remember.
PLAY NICE
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IMO the only system that can do fire is Xbox
Perhaps you haven\'t seen the fire effects in many PS2 games, including TimeSplitters 2 (amazing) and Baldur\'s Gate: Dark Alliance, Final Fantasy etc.
Not to mention that the best fire effects I have ever seen were in Resident Evil (remake) on the GameCube.
Riiight... Only XBox can do good fire effects :rolleyes:
gets to 20, 22 fps in the NTSC version
How do you know that? And the slowdown can be quite annoying :mad:
not to mention it runs at 60, 70 fps.
No, it runs at 30fps, with slowdown.
Here\'s a tip, TV\'s can\'t display over 60fps.
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who have i insulted? my god! this board used to be a lot more tolerant when psx2central newly opened...just because i\'m talking about the content of a game that almost everyone in this forum played and gave another a bad rating?
then what is the point of a forum?
go annoy sumone else, because u aint gonna catch me red handed.
Have a nice day!
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how many people think that GTA 3 was better than GTA:VC. (like me). Taking into consideration that GTA 3 was the first 3D incarnation.
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for vc: i aint playing it on a tv
as for fire effects: hahahahahahaha! i cant believe sumone else has come out to show the games market ps2 is still the most powerful...its NOT...i accepted that, but i still love it the most.
gamecube? r u serious? i mean HONESTLY if it werent for the anti aliasing ps1 can do better.
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yeah i think gta3 was better, not sure why i just enjoyed it more, perhaps because it was the first 3d one
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Originally posted by i stole this name
yeah i think gta3 was better, not sure why i just enjoyed it more, perhaps because it was the first 3d one
I think because it was such a long game, I\'m not sure if I\'m ready to play GTA:VC, which initially looks like more of the same.
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as for fire effects: hahahahahahaha! i cant believe sumone else has come out to show the games market ps2 is still the most powerful...its NOT...i accepted that, but i still love it the most.
gamecube? r u serious? i mean HONESTLY if it werent for the anti aliasing ps1 can do better.
What are you talking about?
I\'m referring strictly to fire effects.
The PS2 has already shown special effects to be one of it\'s strengths. I\'m almost positive that Square had some say in the massive amount of particle pushing power the PS2 has (it can push 175,000,000 particles per second). Which is smaller than what the XBox can handle, but is more than enough for any true fire effects.
In fact, those fire effects in TimeSplitters 2 (on both PS2 and XBox) are probably some of the best in any game I\'ve ever seen. With the exception of Resident Evil on gamecube.
And PSX would smoke up and start melting trying to handle Resident Evil - Rebirth. :)
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no no VC is great, its different, and i cant really say original, but improved...
p.s. did ukno the getaway was a work in progress for 3 yrz? it was initially a psone game but when ps2 released they started over for that. initial screenshots were so realistic that people wondered if soho took photos of london and placed 3d cars in it. the game was initially promised to have a visual radius of one mile, but thats out the window. The graphics took a shocking dive when i played the released version, and the slowdowns were just so annoying
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as for you bob, it was just an opinion, i\'m sorry, dint mean to argue...( i still think that ps2 fire effects are fake but i wont press any further on that )
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Originally posted by i stole this name
no no VC is great, its different, and i cant really say original, but improved...
p.s. did ukno the getaway was a work in progress for 3 yrz? it was initially a psone game but when ps2 released they started over for that. initial screenshots were so realistic that people wondered if soho took photos of london and placed 3d cars in it. the game was initially promised to have a visual radius of one mile, but thats out the window. The graphics took a shocking dive when i played the released version, and the slowdowns were just so annoying
I do remember getting a magazine when the PS2 was first released and it had screen shots of Getaway that looked photoreal. There was also screens of Knockout kings 2002 (which looked amazing), along with a number of really amazing looking games. How disappointing when they arrived and are nothing like what they showed us 2 years ago.
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so true
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Originally posted by i stole this name
The graphics took a shocking dive when i played the released version, and the slowdowns were just so annoying
From what you\'ve posted in this thread I conclude you\'ve played a yet-to-be-released NTSC version of the Getaway. I\'m here in Europe playin\' my PAL The Getaway copy and it\'s really better than you say. When driving I\'d say it rolls at about 50 to 60 fps.
It only dips ( 1 to 2 seconds at most) a bit when you drive into cropped crossings when particle fx like a smokin\' engine are involved. And the draw distance is still good.
So that\'s definately ALOT better than all those horror stories we heard from when the game was still in development. The allover visual quality is also crisp and clear, but of course I\'m talking PAL version here. The only downside is that the police chases can get a bit repetitive sometimes. The solution is to find the way to your destination immediately so you\'ll avoid that process.
On foot action is very good as well, though not as tight as MGS2.
The advanced shooting / stealth moves add much to the gameplay depending on the type of wall or object your character is near to. I already heard some ppl b1tch about the camera. Ok, at first it doesn\'t seem to be as flexible as MGS2\'s, but move Mark a bit differently at the wall and you\'ll notice the cam WILL adjust.
It just needs more planning your way ahead. It\'s somewhere in between MGS1, MGS2 and Winback. Now that can\'t be a bad thing, can it ?
The story is very good imo and it makes the cutscenes actually worth viewing (shame though we can\'t skip em when replaying) in contrast to that horrible MGS2 stuff. If you need to refresh on the mission outline just choose that in the option menu and a brief via audio explanation will be given, no lengthy horrid codec conversation here ! The character models act alot better than in MGS2 imo as well.
To conclude The Getaway :
graphics : 9,2
fun/replay value : 9,5
gameplay : 8,6
Final verdict : 9,1 :cool:
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A: u cant compare getaway and mgs2
b: i played a pal release and an ntsc one
c: the slowdowns are horrific
d: the game is so realistic you refuse to drive cars because you might die before it reaches 20kph
e: why isnt there an auto aim feature on regular pedestrians?
f: the police are dead stupid
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Originally posted by i stole this name
A: u cant compare getaway and mgs2
b: i played a pal release and an ntsc one
c: the slowdowns are horrific
d: the game is so realistic you refuse to drive cars because you might die before it reaches 20kph
e: why isnt there an auto aim feature on regular pedestrians?
f: the police are dead stupid
How are the slowdowns horrific?
Why isnt there auto aim on pedestrians...because most people dont go walk on the street and start killing random people ;)
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:o Ok, I give up argueing with you about this game.
You h8te it, I like it...nuff said.
To Mystical : The slowdowns are really minor. Like I said
it only happens at certain crowdy or heavy smoke situations
and then it only takes about a second, 2 at most. A crispy
detailed London, heavy traffic... a good amount of pedestrians
-> with a 50 to 60 fps framerate most of da time ; that\'s a
good achievement in my book.
Btw, I can compare this game to MGS2 becuz it consists of
2 parts ; driving and on foot 3rd person action. MGS2 is 3rd
person action (with a 1st person mode though). So.. that\'s
why. But heck, maybe it\'s better to compare it to Winback.
And of course.... Mark Hammond is an ex-bankrobber who wants
to do \'the Right\' thing. It\'s story driven -> his goal is to get
his son Alex back, not to kill innocent ppl. In the torture scene
you can clearly see he disrespects Jake Jolson\'s torture antics.
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I think the Getway looks rather good actually.. Lots of detail on the buildings, alot more than GTA3/VC which looks flat in comparison.
The textures are also better in the Getaway.. When it comes to gameplay I haven’t decided yet, the games are very different.
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to Knotter8: FINALLY, g-zus ppl around here have an obsession to proving thst they\'re right to everyone
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To correct a few minor things: PS2 can do 150 million particles / sec. Honestly, strictly on fire, you might have a point that they are more impressive on the "other" console. Effects as a whole though, I definately disagree.
As to the topic - definately the Getaway. Realism is one very strong point and the fact that you are in a real city says it all. Graphics are much better and as a whole, I think it\'s a better experience.
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For this whole fire debate thing, have you seen the fire in Lord Of The Rings on PS2 when they are in the forest???
AMAZINGLY REAL.
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those women in GTA: VC look unproportional IMO. :D Are they all like that? The ones in Getaway look more appealing.... :)
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Originally posted by fastson
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That is a great comparison showing that The Getaway kicks ass :)
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150\'000 million
:confused:
Are you saying... 150,000,000,000 particles/sec?
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huh, ooops. Clearly I ment 150 million particles / sec.
*slaps himself*
I think I should be going to bed... :(
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But that\'s... what I said....
Edit: Oh, I said 175... I don\'t know where I got that figure from, because I know it\'s 150 :D
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I want The Getaway more. Vice City is more of the same, I don\'t like the story or humor even. The freedom is it. Bleh to freedom.
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I just bought this game...
Guess what? The game plays like MGS and the cars move and feel so real that im imagining things....
The graphics put all action games to shame.....This game shows ps2 graphical output prowess at its best....
Im having fun with this game even though i got killed 5 times in the warehouse...SUPER REALISTIC animations.
I suggest all Europeans to run & get this.
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Originally posted by Waspman
I just bought this game...
Guess what? The game plays like MGS and the cars move and feel so real that im imagining things....
The graphics put all action games to shame.....This game shows ps2 graphical output prowess at its best....
Im having fun with this game even though i got killed 5 times in the warehouse...SUPER REALISTIC animations.
I suggest all Europeans to run & get this.
My thoughts exactly ! This game plays alot like MGS1 in an \'evolved\' kind of way, imo. That\'s NOT a bad thing.
Anyway, I\'m at mission 11 now and I must say I\'m having a great time playing, although there are a few missions which are unbalanced (some of the driving parts are too long imo where both police AND gangs keep buggin\' me) :mad: I totally love
the part where you hit the Yardies. Incredible :thepimp:
Once you\'ve accustomed to the controls missions like that one will be a blast. One more thing (which could be a minor SPOILER)
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The story starts with a healthy dose of humour and comedy,
but at a certain point (due to the graveness of the whole crime situation) it turns a bit grim. Maybe the story will take a more sunny/funny side when I get to play Frank, but now the story is kinda on a down side for Hammond. :crap:
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Originally posted by Knotter8
Anyway, I\'m at mission 11 now and I must say I\'m having a great time playing, although there are a few missions which are unbalanced (some of the driving parts are too long imo where both police AND gangs keep buggin\' me) :mad:
Uh dont be such a cry baby.Imagine playing Driver which was 100% in a car AND being chased most of the time:p
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If I could only have one,Vice City hands down.Both good though.