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Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: SwifDi on December 18, 2002, 02:21:38 PM: http://www.campchaos.com/othershows/jkcinema/03.html

Discuss.
Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: Cerberus on December 18, 2002, 03:14:08 PM: Most of those pics are bulshit, and have been proven to be so. But there is one, the one with the figure of a girl in the flames of the burning building is one that can\'t, or at least hasn\'t up to now be explained.

There was a documentary on TV a while back, where they were trying to disprove the authenticity of several supposed ghost photos. They had photography experts in from all round the world, along with scientists from photography companies. None of them could find any way to prove it as a hoax.

For the record, I neither believe, or disbelieve in ghosts, I chose to adopt a "wait and see" approach, even though I did have have an "experience" once, when I was in a darkroom at college which I already mentioned on these forums.
Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: SwifDi on December 18, 2002, 03:16:08 PM: I agree... Many of the pictures are so obscure that I can\'t make anything out at times... The audio too seems really unrealistic.
Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: clowd on December 18, 2002, 03:17:29 PM: The dead are dust nothing more

what some people see are either dreams that they cant tell the difference between reality and fantasy in, or visions created by other beings
Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: Kurt Angle on December 18, 2002, 03:36:58 PM: Put it this way, I have never seen one.

*looks around*
Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: Viper_Fujax on December 18, 2002, 03:59:02 PM: Ya, plus i think anything can be done with a little computer technology. until i see one in front of me that says "boo" i dont believe their just walking around, seeable.
Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on December 18, 2002, 04:06:58 PM: They say that if u are open to ghosts... u will see one.. sometime.

Donno if it\'s true or not, never seen one.

But just because u haven\'t seen one, doesn\'t mean they\'re not there. :sconf: :sconf: :sconf: :sconf: :sconf:
Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: Viper_Fujax on December 18, 2002, 04:10:01 PM: ya, im not closed minded to say that they arent there, i just dont think they are visible. If i see one, then ill change my mind :)
Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: Unicron! on December 19, 2002, 06:12:28 AM: I beleive that ghosts exist as an energy of the human that died and everyone know that energy never starts and never ends.

Here is another interesting more scientific approach of ghosts

http://spaweb.tripod.com/theories.html
Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: Jar O Pickles on December 19, 2002, 08:30:36 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Clowd
The dead are dust nothing more

what some people see are either dreams that they cant tell the difference between reality and fantasy in, or visions created by other beings

arent you the resident bible thumper here
doesnt sound like somthing a good christian would say
Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on December 19, 2002, 09:41:08 AM: I don\'t believe... sorry.
Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: mjps21983 on December 19, 2002, 10:00:49 AM: I don\'t believe or disbelieve, it hasn\'t been proven or disproven so I don\'t see it fit for me to make a judgment for it to be real or fake.
Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: Halberto on December 19, 2002, 10:52:57 AM: I don\'t know. Just because we\'ve never seen one on camera doesn\'t mean it doesn\'t exist.
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Post by: IronFist on December 19, 2002, 02:03:10 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Jar O Pickles

arent you the resident bible thumper here
doesnt sound like somthing a good christian would say

My thoughts exactly.

Clowd, surely you believe in the afterlife, right?
Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: clowd on December 20, 2002, 10:10:05 AM: What is the afterlife? Your definition
Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: IronFist on December 20, 2002, 10:58:04 AM: I thought the word "afterlife" was pretty self explanatory: after this life. :p

I have shared what I believe to be the afterlife in other, more religious threads, so I won\'t go into detail. I will say that right after we die, I believe that our bodies are left in the ground (or whereever the bodies are put), and our spirits leave our bodies. Our spirits stay on this world though until a later time.

I believe that it is possible for "ghosts" to exist, or in other words, for the spirits of the dead to be visible by people on this side of the vail. But I have not seen one, so I could not say if ghosts are real or not.
Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: clowd on December 20, 2002, 11:00:30 AM: I dont believe there is any spirits besides demons roaming this Earth, if you want to talk more we should talk in pms or something of the like
Title: Ghosts.... Real or Bullshit?
Post by: Unicron! on December 20, 2002, 12:14:44 PM: A friend of mine has the Testament of Solomon and ckecked it out.It really works.U can call demons or higher entities.

My opinion on afterlife:We all have experiences of subconcious and conciousness.There is also a higher state of conciousness.The one u experience after years of meditation,the one holy men experience etc.This is the true state of humans.
But our dependence on the five senses doesnt let us experience it.
When we die we leave the conciousnes.Its like waking.When u wake u leave the subconcious.When u die u wake from the concious.U are no longer in the state of conciousness.Which is what we call "reality".We understand this reality from our 5 senses.
When we wake from this "reality"(die) its the complete independence from those fives senses.