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Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on December 28, 2002, 07:24:50 PM
http://www.sundayherald.com/30248

A bloody spat has broken out between two of Europe\'s biggest brands after top executives discovered a rendition of one of their staff being brutally murdered amidst the blazing action of the UK\'s all-time fastest- selling computer game.
Scenes in Sony\'s The Getaway, an ultra-violent crime game currently topping the sales charts, require players to assassinate an innocent BT engineer, then don his clearly branded overalls before setting out on a gun-wielding killing spree in a London police station. The giant telecom company, its management outraged, has responded by demanding instant action from the global corporation.

\'We have protested very strongly to Sony about a section of the PlayStation 2 game The Getaway, which involves the specific elimination of a BT engineer. We\'re taking the issue of what we see as a potential incitement of violence against our staff extremely seriously,\' a company spokesperson told the Sunday Herald this weekend.

According to BT, Sony has issued a formal apology together with a firm undertaking to correct the problem. It is understood that the Japanese-owned conglomerate has already instructed game developers Team Soho to remove all on-screen references to the telephone company, and that the revised version will reach shop shelves early in the New Year.

Sony\'s spokespeople have thus far declined to comment on the issue, refusing to respond to repeated telephone, fax and e-mail enquires. Many commentators are reading this unaccustomed silence as a deliberate attempt to keep a low profile on the issue and avoid similar actions.

\'If I was Sony, I\'d be keeping my head down just now too. It may well be that BT is not the only company to feature in The Getaway, and more cases could emerge in the weeks ahead,\' said London-based intellectual property lawyer Jason Weatherburn.

\'I am already going through the game step-by-step to check whether any of my clients are affected, and I suspect that many of my colleagues will be doing exactly the same.\'

The scope for potential legal actions provoked by The Getaway could be enormous. Billed as one of the most expensive videogame ever made -- at £5 million -- it faithfully reproduces 21 square miles of London , recreating thousands of real-life business landmarks from Starbucks franchises to the West End production of Les Miserables.

In the storyline, the player alternates between taking the roles of Mark Hammond, an ex-bank robber coerced by gang boss Charlie Jolson into performing a series of violent missions, and a CID detective charged with investigating the spree. During play, the armed characters are able to visit many locations -- including Sony\'s headquarters on Great Marlborough Street -- and wreak bloody havoc within.

There could be thousands of organisations who will object to this game because of their inclusion in it, and the case certainly raises a lot of issues. What happens if one company in the future sponsors a game publisher to deliberately include negative depictions of their rivals, for example? There are a lot of grey areas here, and it could descend into a legal quagmire,\' Weatherburn said.

Although many analysts had questioned the wisdom of pouring £5 million into the production of a single title, The Getaway sold 200,000 copies on its launch earlier this month and sales are expected to top one million over the festive period, delivering a 10-fold return on Sony\'s investment. The company will be desperate to avoid any action that could damage the success story.

The new, sanitised version of the game set to hit the shelves in January might have staved off further action from BT, but many of that company\'s staff privately feel that with over one million players using an edition in which one of their colleagues is massacred for fun, the damage has already been done.

This view is echoed by numerous studies claiming that prolonged exposure to violent video games can cause anti-social behaviour, particularly in young children. Advocates of such research contend that in extreme cases, some individuals might be motivated to carry out copy attacks.

Rejecting such studies, the games industry has remained resolute its output is harmless fun, and refuses to criticise Sony for its decision to publish a package in which violence, strong language and racism feature. Pointing out that all such products carry clear age restrictions like those on films, they maintain that responsibility for censorship is down to individual users and their parents.

\'It is vital not to underestimate the value this industry brings both culturally and economically to the UK. Unfortunately there is a tendency for some people to accuse games of overt violence and corrupting young people, but let\'s be quite clear about this: games aimed at an adult audience are labelled as being suitable for 18 years and over, and there is absolutely no reason why they should be played by a younger person unless the child\'s parents allow it,\' said Roger Bennett of the Entertainment and Leisure Software Publishers Association.

\'We should be applauding the success of these games, not creating negative comment on their content.\'
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: SirMystiq on December 28, 2002, 07:53:06 PM
^^^
stupid.
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: fastson on December 28, 2002, 08:30:43 PM
Im glad I got to play the uncensored version then :)

That mission was pretty fun.. I failed 3 times before I got to the station. 2 times I got run over just when I had arrived at the station. :/
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: fastson on December 28, 2002, 08:31:32 PM
Blah.. 2x post.. KILL me!
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on December 29, 2002, 01:32:44 AM
That was my favorite mission.  :)  Twin sub-machine guns baby!

I hope this doesn\'t further damage the games sales.  And I hope even more that the revisd version doesn\'t have bugs (like the Australian version of Grand Theft Auto).
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: Kurt Angle on December 29, 2002, 02:57:21 AM
Ha ha!!

I actually enjoyed this mission, as far as I recall I didn\'t kill the guy, I just rammed his van until it stopped. Then he got out and walked away. I tried to run him over but he didn\'t die.
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on December 29, 2002, 04:18:10 AM
Just played The Getaway yesterday. Good game, but not much more. I think this is nothing but free advertisement for BT.
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: Unicron! on December 29, 2002, 05:54:55 AM
LOL:laughing:

These guys are looking for an excuse to start trouble:
We\'re taking the issue of what we see as a potential incitement of violence against our staff extremely seriously,\'

:rolleyes:YEAH RIGHT!!
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: ooseven on December 29, 2002, 06:31:27 AM
i would think that would be Good publicity for British Telecom

i mean thats what their GOD DAMN BT engineer\'s deserve for the Giganitc Cock up they have made of UK BroadBand !


BURN BT BURN !
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: Tyrant on December 29, 2002, 06:38:50 AM
why didnt BT just come forward with the fact that they just wanted a peice of the pie (reffering to all the money "The Getaway" has made) rather than making all this fuss, like they care if someone guns down one of their engineers.
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: kopking on December 29, 2002, 11:49:20 AM
sad, just sad, hope they dont cut it at all
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on December 29, 2002, 04:01:59 PM
Quote
Originally posted by kopking
sad, just sad, hope they dont cut it at all


Uhm..

You didn\'t read the article, did you?
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: GmanJoe on December 29, 2002, 08:56:44 PM
Has anyone tried to squish turtles after playing Super Mario?

Well? Have any of you who\'ve played The Getaway have an inclination to kill a BT employee?

BTW....after playing Ace Combat 4, I was able to fly an F-16 in real life. They didn\'t have controllers like PS2...but I managed. ;)
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: Simchoy on December 29, 2002, 11:53:33 PM
Well, they are cutting out the BT, that doesn\'t mean they are cutting the scene altogether. Could be some nameless phone company now. Now, yes, if Sony wanted to be OVERLY careful, they will remove the entire scene. But...ehhhhh...wait for the new version to see what they do with it.

Still, IMO, this is silly. The only one making a fuss about the violence, is BT, and the media. If anyone is hurting children, it is the media with its constant exposure to this issue.

Now, it is true that a few, a FEW people can\'t distinguish fantasy from reality. So, as a parent, you shouldn\'t be giving these kids these games and parents SHOULD teach them the differences between fantasy and reality. The blame here, shouldn\'t be put on Sony or any other game company with this crap.
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: mystical on December 30, 2002, 02:27:10 AM
Hahaha BT is a crock of $*it.  Who cares if one of their engineers gets "brutally murdered".  

For anyone getting the edited version, dont worry, I will kill the engineer for you in my game :D
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: kopking on December 30, 2002, 08:54:16 AM
i meant in future copies of it, u know like how there cutting a level out of hitman 2
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: Waspman on December 31, 2002, 04:46:21 AM
Yeah,that police station level is fun.

I felt like the Terminator.
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: Kurt Angle on December 31, 2002, 08:05:39 AM
I am enjoying the DCI Carter missions more than the Mark Hammond ones.
Title: British Telecom take action against Sony regarding The Getaway
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on December 31, 2002, 10:35:00 AM
I think the carter mission are better overall, but Filthy Business is the best out of the lot.

twin MP5,s in the Police station, need I say more.