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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: videoholic on December 30, 2002, 01:00:57 PM
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Carry on fellas. You were mentioning something about how much the 49ers are going to get schooled in the first round.
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And right we were.
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Yes sir, softies are gonna get schooled as are the Colts
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<--- Fears Ron Dayne
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pfft.
Fear Barber. Fear Shockey. Fear our entire defense.
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BROWNS ALL THE WAY!!!!!!11111
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Holcomb and the Browns!!!
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Word!
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Haha...
God I love being a Niners fan. 17-0 after the half....
Rams can suck it.
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Won\'t be that way next week, I can promise you that.
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Tim Rattay is awesome.
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It\'s not even a preseason game. Even the discussion of this game is meaningless.
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Woohoo! We blow a 17-0 lead, and now the Rams are down by only a field goal!
WAY TO GO NINERS DEFENSE! WAY TO SEAL THE DEAL!
****heads...
EDIT: Oh, and mark my words, TIM RATTAY IS NOT THE NINERS FUTURE. That guy can lick my anus.
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You know what rules? The Niners D.
Yeah, you\'ll kill us all right... :rolleyes:
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update! rams up by 4!
edit: make that 11!
Final: SF 20 St. Louis 31
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Bahaha...
Bottom line: Niners in playoffs. Rams not.
Giants going down.
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We\'ll see, we\'ll see.
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Go Steelers! :D
Yes. That\'s all I have to say. :p
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Go Raiders.
**** the Browns. They don\'t deserve to be in the playoffs. Then again, that\'s just my opinion.
I would actually enjoy somebody yelling at me right now. You want to argue it, then you\'re getting cussed out.
See Yuz.
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/me yells at James.
Eric Crouch sucks donkey balls!
/me runs
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
I would actually enjoy somebody yelling at me right now. You want to argue it, then you\'re getting cussed out.
See Yuz.
Awww,whats wrong?
Oh, and just like the Patriots didn\'t deserve to win it all lastyear. Shit happens
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Giants may not go all the way, but they play solid all around which normally gets you into a winning situation every game, I can\'t think of any blow outs they had on themselves this year except the Eagles game
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f*cking Niners...
Even though the game was meaningless, it could have given them some momentemum (don\'t correct my spelling, that\'s ghetto talk, put in the post just for sirmystic)
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haha, looks like y\'all are goin down against the Giants, if the Rams defense can hold ya, hell the Giants will shut you out!!!
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im tired of this "they don\'t deserve" crap...
you get what you deserve
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Exactly. The Pats played harder than the Rams, there is no way the Rams deserved to win that game.
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GO STEELERS! :D
Yep. Nothing really to add again. :p
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My team to root for in the AFC: Browns
My team to root for in the NFC: Niners (of course)
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AFC-JETS(Sleeper Team)
NFC-GIANTS
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Who I want: Jets and Giants
Who I predict: Bucs and Titans
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I\'ll say Phillie but only if McNabb is back and healthy, other then them I\'d go with Packers, you never ever bet against Favre(just plain stupid) and AFC I see the Raiders or Raider nation
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The Packers will have to go to Tampa, where they looked just plain bad earlier. So I\'m counting them out. That Jets loss killed em. From home field to playing in the first round.
Philly...maybe, but I just don\'t see them doing it this year. Then again, they were my preseason NFC pick.
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nobodys talking about the titans here... watch out fer them titans i tell ya.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Who I predict: Bucs and Titans
I was :)
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Who i want: Falcons and Jets
Who i predict: Raiders and Buccs
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Want- Niners vs Raiders
Prediction- Bucs vs Raiders
I also wouldn\'t mind seeing Altlant in the Bowl, I love Vick.
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God isn\'t it weird to be talking about the Bucs in the Superbowl?
My prediction is Bucs vs Titans.
Although if Johnson doesn\'t come back I think Philly will get the nod.
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They already said that Johnson will be back.
Hmm...me and Vid made the same predictions. Rah!
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hows about maybe this...the Browns in the superbowl! it could happen (this season has been verrry strange...especially the strangeness surrounding the browns since game 1).
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Johnson has been whining off and on about his back. Now it turns out to be bruised? What a pizussy. Get out there you freaking dweeb!!!
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My prediction for superbowl..
San Francisco vs. Doesn\'t matter, because SF is going to kick their ass!!
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God I hope the eagles lose. I\'d like to see the 49ers come to Tampa.
That is of course if all the other chips fall into place.
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WORD.
I don\'t like the eagles either.
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Eagles lose, Giants beat Eagles, Packers lose Giants reach super bowl!!!
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the jets Blank the colts 41-0! and go on while the colts go home!
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greenbay is losing 24-0 in the 3rd to atlanta AT HOME!!! Greenbay has NEVER lost a playoff game at home..................................
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I think the Jets are going to have a reality check next week when they face the Titans or Raiders. The Colts had no reason to be in the playoffs, they are crap.
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Word. Jet\'s only made it this far because of luck. Pure luck.
GREENBAY LOST!!!!!!!!
Man, Im happy. But, at the same time I really wasn\'t expecting them to lose. Tomorrow, 49ers vs. Giants. I know the niners won\'t let me down. Like the packer\'s let their fans down.
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Boy... it must SUCK to be a cheesehead.
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Jets made it only this far due to luck? Look at our schedule, the teams we played, and the ones we beat. And how we beat them. The only team in for a surprise is the team that plays us.
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LUCK. Pure luck. Don\'t take it so harsh though, I just don\'t like their QB thats all.
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If you think its luck, you\'re a moron.
Oh, and what the Giants to the Niners...that won\'t be luck either.
And thank you Vick. Because of you, the Giants and Eagles get to face in the NFC title game :)
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N.Y. Jets 37, Buffalo 31 (OT)
New England 44, N.Y. Jets 7
Miami 30, N.Y. Jets 3
Jacksonville 28, N.Y. Jets 3
Kansas City 29, N.Y. Jets 25
N.Y. Jets 20, Minnesota 7
Cleveland 24, N.Y. Jets 21
N.Y. Jets 44, San Diego 13
N.Y. Jets 13, Miami 10
N.Y. Jets 31, Detroit 14
N.Y. Jets 31, Buffalo 13
Oakland 26, N.Y. Jets 20
N.Y. Jets 19, Denver 13
Chicago 20, N.Y. Jets 13
N.Y. Jets 30, New England 17
N.Y. Jets 42, Green Bay 17
N.Y. Jets 41, Indianapolis 0
That doesn\'t seem like such a tough season. The only tough teams they beat were GreenBay, and New England. Maybe Denver.
No, If the Giants DO happen to beat the niners, it will be luck also. Eagles are going Bye Bye. Jets are going Bye Bye too, when the Raiders wreck them.
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Jets are my vote to win the AFC.
How the f*** did they lose to Chicago though?
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God damnmit, that better not have been Favre\'s last game.
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So what, Miami is a bad team now? Oh, and what about the Chargers, who were 6-1 with wins over the Raiders, Pats, and Chiefs when the Jets beat em? The Jets played the two toughest AFC divisions this year, the East and West. And you are telling me that teams like the Steelers, who play the Bengals twice a year, and the Titans, who get the Texans twice, deserve to be in the playoffs more? And you\'re still telling me they shouldn\'t be there after they beat another playoff team 41-0? Then you\'re an idiot.
And I love how you\'re telling me that if the Giants win, it will be by luck before the game even happens.
Go back to complaining about your pretend girlfriends. Seems like you\'re just as much of an idiot in this area as you were in that one.
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SirMystiq, as another fellow Niners fan I wish you\'d kinda layoff the "for sure" thing. The Giants can beat the Niners on any given Sunday (and vice versa). Don\'t be so arragont. I\'m nervous as hell about tomorrow and your cockiness is agitating me like crazy.
Its gonna be close...
...but the Niners shall win.
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All i ask is that T. Owens gets a broken neck. Then the niners can win :) Stupid Owens, that sharpie whelding pom pom cheer girl.
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
That doesn\'t seem like such a tough season. The only tough teams they beat were GreenBay, and New England. Maybe Denver.
Buffalo, Green Bay, Denver, Indi, Miami, San Deigo.....but only 3 of them are any good of course
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Originally posted by square_marker
All i ask is that T. Owens gets a broken neck. Then the niners can win :) Stupid Owens, that sharpie whelding pom pom cheer girl.
Football isn\'t worth watching without guys like T.O.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Because of you, the Giants and Eagles get to face in the NFC title game :)
I think you are skipping about 3 games. All of which put the Giants/Eagles game from happening.
Giants have to beat 49ers. (Doubt it, but maybe)
Giants have to beat Bucs (Seriously doubt it)
Eagles have to beat Falcons (Damn this is a tough game to pick. If Falcons play like that again then they could beat anyone, except for the bucs)
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Originally posted by Videoholic
I think you are skipping about 3 games. All of which put the Giants/Eagles game from happening.
Giants have to beat 49ers. (Doubt it, but maybe)
Giants have to beat Bucs (Seriously doubt it)
Eagles have to beat Falcons (Damn this is a tough game to pick. If Falcons play like that again then they could beat anyone, except for the bucs)
Haha, I was wondering if anyone would notice how I worded it. :)
Yeah, I know, it will be tough. And remember, I predicted the Bucs coming out of the NFC. I really think that anyone has a shot in the NFC though, and the AFC as well. It\'s so wide open this year, it\'s incredible.
edit: haha, looks like a good year for the #6 seeds. Falcons won, and now the Browns are winning too. Let\'s see if the Jets can take care of business too...
Just shows what I was saying though...it\'s really wide open this year. Anything can happen.
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WTF
God, I see the key to homefield advantage. Jesus christ, look at these calls going Steelers way. HELMET TO HELMET MY ****ING ASS!!!
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Ouch. Sucks to be a Browns fan right now. That\'s gotta be a real heartbreaker. The type of loss you never like to see.
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WHY NOT JUST BEAT THE OPPONENTS BY 70 POINTS INSTEAD OF WINNING BY 3 POINTS WITH ONLY 52 SECONDS LEFT IN THE GAME?????
I aged about 10 years!
*whew!*
We won.....at least! :D
GO STEELERS!
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[BIG RANT]
WTF! the browns handed puttsburg the game on a HUGE silver platter at the end! the bad calls didnt help either! they could not stop Randel El........PAthetic! Atleast the browns made it to the post-season...they should have been going to oakland!
well atleast my predictions were 50% correct (the Buckeyes won)
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Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha!
Eat shhttp://it BOZCO!!! WOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
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Yea yea, College football > Pro Football so my week is still amazing.
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Originally posted by Bozco
WTF
God, I see the key to homefield advantage. Jesus christ, look at these calls going Steelers way. HELMET TO HELMET MY ****ING ASS!!!
An Ohio State fan bitching about calls by a referee. Yeah, THAT makes sense :-P
The Browns have nobody to blame but themselves. They gave up 22 points in the 4th quarter, and ultimately lost by 3. If you\'re going to blame the refs, find a new hobby -- the Browns shouldn\'t have even been in the playoffs in the first place.
See Yuz.
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Oh, I know. You can\'t blame anybody but the browns. Oh, and don\'t get me started on how the Buckeyes rightfully earned that game. :)
But the helmet to helmet call was nothing more than BS, let me state that.
Never deserving to be in the playoffs, haha.
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maybe one good thing came out of the browns loss, they dont have to go against the Raiders! Plus it will give them more time to to heal up while pittsburghs roster is beat up!
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Originally posted by Bozco
Oh, I know. You can\'t blame anybody but the browns. Oh, and don\'t get me started on how the Buckeyes rightfully earned that game. :)
But the helmet to helmet call was nothing more than BS, let me state that.
Never deserving to be in the playoffs, haha.
You beat the Jags. On a Hail Mary. Come on.
And I know the Buckeyes deserved it, I was rooting for them, believe it or not (Oh, and after they earned their spot, I predicted them to beat Miami, don\'t you forget). McGahee stated before the game that the only ones who could beat the Canes were themselves -- 5 turnovers, yeah, I\'d call that beating yourself :)
See Yuz.
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You could say beating yourself but really it was the Buckeyes defense. Nobody respected the Buckeyes D and Miami payed for it.
To keep it on track, ummmm......... GO FALCONS. I like Dunn.
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Damn, they so had the Steelers beat... sigh, not like they were good anyway...
Go Oakland, beat the shit out of New York Jets for me... I would like to see the Giants win though.
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They almost beat a Steelers team that spanked Tamba Bay.
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Man, go Giants. 28 points in the first half...this rules!
edit: 35-14. What was that you were saying earlier Mystiq? That\'s what I thought.
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Nothing I love to see more than the 49er\'s getting beat by 21.
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I\'d like to see the 49ers over here, but it is so funny watching them get beat here after so much smack being said by Mr. Bling Bling.
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God, the niners are freaking horrible. My family has started to cheer for the Giants since the niners are just too terrible to cheer for. That\'s what they get afer losing last weeks game in that sad and dispicable display. They suck, end of story. It\'s time for me to start cheering for a different team. I hear the Raiders have a few fan openings. ;)
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35-14? Hah, here comes the 6th TD!
3rd and 5, and Collins hits Toomer for a 40 yard gain. When Kerry Collins is above average, the Giants are unbeatable. Nuff\' said.
See Yuz.
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"Man, shockey has great hair"
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Yea, I was thinking the same thing right before the announcer said it. I was like, that douche bag has some pretty boy hair.
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How much are they going to play up the Strahan vs. Sapp. Oh god. How many times do I have to hear Sapp rag on the fake Strahan sack of Favre last year. Oye....
49ers. You guys are getting spanked. You can\'t stop giants at all. If the field was 1000yards long they would still score every time they had the ball.
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TO gets told by Strahan, now that was funny. He goes over to TO after TO spins the ball and points at the scoreboard, gotta love it.
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What the hell happened to 38-14?
Huge Momentum Swing. We\'re only 13 seconds into the 4th quarter and all of the sudden it\'s 38-30. Come on, Giants...
See Yuz.
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Remember everything I said about the 49ers sucking. Um, they don\'t suck. I mean they did suck. Past. But in the present they are kicking ass.
Damn, how can people like soccer?
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Maybe if Terrell Owens grew some balls and took a hit once and a while and stopped "QB sliding" NYG would take over. I hope Strahan gets ahold of him. Cocky son of a
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Terrell Owens is the biggest piece of NFL trash. That hit he layed was only about 3 seconds after the wistle went out. Damn straight the Giants should try to kick his ass. Just like the pitcher throwing the ball at people in baseball, your defending your teammates.
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EVERYONE IS GONNA FIGHT!!
Giants to the 28.
Uh oh...Bryant is gonna choke.
Man, this game is great. I can care less who wins....but i think they should get in a big fight before it\'s all over.
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Here comes Bryant. Pressure time.
OMG!!! PASS INTERFERENCE!!! HAHAHAHA....but wait...49ERS WIN!
Man, what a great game. Awesome.
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41 yard field goal is......... a failed snap and then a recovery pass!.... pass interference!!!!!
what the hell are you guys doing... go watch the World Jr hockey championship...
Canada vs Russia
Go Canada!!!
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Terrel Owens is trash, but that was an amazing game. It went from utter crap to nail biting victory. Well, it\'s the playoffs and these things are bound to happen!
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IMPOSSIBLE ENDING!
Muffed field goal! Flags everywhere! Niners win!!!????? Shockey shocked! :p
What chaos! :eek:
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Terrell Owens owned the Giants. That was just an all out schooling.
Great game. Snapper needs to get bitch slapped. How many things does that guy have to do to earn his 250+k per year? That is all he has to do. Hike the freaking ball. Say he was a taxi cab driver. Would he get into an accident every single day he drives? If he was a heart surgeon, would he just say, "oops. I know you needed me to cut that artery, but hey, I haven\'t cut in a week so it was an easy mistake."
Whatever. Good game.
Much better games today, that\'s for sure.
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That was an absolute disgrace. Shaun Williams can kiss my ass. He is the one who cost us that game. Terrell Owens is trash. I can\'t wait until he gets raped by Tampa. And the Giants call themselves a good defense? That was absolutely pathetic.
That long snapper can kiss my ass as well. I don\'t even know his name, we just signed him this last week. What a mistake. That guy blows.
Next year. We were playing this without our #2 WR, and our main run stopper. When they are back...next year...
Oh well, go Jets.
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49er\'s > Giants.
Rock on.
(Glad to see the Giants screw up the snap and lose the game..)
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i hate you owens :( i hate you so much
go falcons
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
49er\'s > Giants.
Hardly.
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How else would you explain the win? Either way it was a great win and great game. I love games where the swing goes back and forth and becomes nail biting at the end.
As for Owens, I personally like him. He adds spunk.
;)
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Hardly.
Pfft.
Whatever happened when i told you USC was better than WSU and you said "WSU beat them, so they\'re better."
So going by that logic, the 49ers are the better team.
And yes...i think they should have killed Owens too.
Killing Owens = Bigger Fight = More entertainment
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
How else would you explain the win? Either way it was a great win and great game. I love games where the swing goes back and forth and becomes nail biting at the end.
As for Owens, I personally like him. He adds spunk.
;)
How? First of all, we had two of our more important players out, in Ike Hilliard and Keith Hamilton. And anyone who doesn\'t think Hamilton makes a difference in that comeback doesn\'t know who he is.
As for Owens, if I saw him right now, I would punch him in the face, as hard as I could. I don\'t give a shit what happens to me after that, as long as I get my shot in. I hope he gets absolutely raped by the Bucs in the next round. Those plays with Shaun Williams were the only times I ever wished for: a) a player to totally get his ass kicked in an all out fight on the field, and b) for a player to suffer a career ending injury in the near future. I am still hoping for the second.
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If they beat them, they would be the better team, right?
What? They only won because of a missed snap? Well - he is part of the team and he missed it, so its a flaw to the team and cost them the game. Therefor, the 49\'ers would still be the better team. And what about the swing after half-time? THe Giants failed to stop the Niners. WHat? Two of your best players was out? So what? We can still at least sum that the Niners was the BETTER TEAM ON THE FIELD . Either way, they somehow end up being the better team and winning. The better team prevailed. Not to downplay The Giants effort, as it was amazing also, well, \'cept for those snaps..
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Originally posted by Fayded
Pfft.
Whatever happened when i told you USC was better than WSU and you said "WSU beat them, so they\'re better."
So going by that logic, the 49ers are the better team.
And yes...i think they should have killed Owens too.
Killing Owens = Bigger Fight = More entertainment
Cory, **** off.
LIC- read my post before saying the same things over again.
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So you hate Owens, but think Shockey is cool? They are the same person essentially. Except for of course Owens backed it up the whole freaking game.
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I think it is a case of denial. We all get that from time to time.
;)
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Originally posted by Videoholic
So you hate Owens, but think Shockey is cool? They are the same person essentially. Except for of course Owens backed it up the whole freaking game.
Shockey didn\'t do what Owens did at the end of the game. And Shockey has always backed up his talking with his play. Like he said, he wasn\'t going to start talking til the Giants got going, and he didn\'t. Shockey and Owens are COMPLETELY different. Don\'t even make that comparison. Shockey is a great, hard nosed, tought player. Owens is a thug, and an asshole.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Cory, **** off.
Ha.
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Yes, my 3 most hated players in NFL are Sapp, Owens, and Shockey.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
How? First of all, we had two of our more important players out, in Ike Hilliard and Keith Hamilton. And anyone who doesn\'t think Hamilton makes a difference in that comeback doesn\'t know who he is.
As for Owens, if I saw him right now, I would punch him in the face, as hard as I could. I don\'t give a shit what happens to me after that, as long as I get my shot in. I hope he gets absolutely raped by the Bucs in the next round. Those plays with Shaun Williams were the only times I ever wished for: a) a player to totally get his ass kicked in an all out fight on the field, and b) for a player to suffer a career ending injury in the near future. I am still hoping for the second.
Word.
After watching his bullshit throughout the end of that game, for the first time, I was wishing that Shaun Williams would rip off his own helmet and use it as a weapon to Owens\' head.
Yeah, here\'s a question for all of you answer-bearing Niners fans, why wasn\'t Owens tossed, and Williams was? Skill or not, that was pure shit by Owens, and the fact that he wasn\'t tossed is BULLSHIT. I\'ve never been so pissed off by a game that had has no meaning to me. Ever.
There were so many things wrong with the way that game ended that it wasn\'t even worthy of being called a Professional Game in the end.
As for Tony, man, you\'ve had one hell of a streak going as far as football wins goes. The one weekend I jump on the bandwagon, this atrocity of an ending happens. Yeah, this just might be one of the reasons why I like College more than Pro -- Terrell Owens.
Stealing a line from Tony, I too have never been more of a Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan in my life, and I personally hope that Ronde rips TO a new asshole.
See Yuz.
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Originally posted by ROL Jamas
Word.
After watching his bullshit throughout the end of that game, for the first time, I was wishing that Shaun Williams would rip off his own helmet and use it as a weapon to Owens\' head.
Yeah, here\'s a question for all of you answer-bearing Niners fans, why wasn\'t Owens tossed, and Williams was? Skill or not, that was pure shit by Owens, and the fact that he wasn\'t tossed is BULLSHIT. I\'ve never been so pissed off by a game that had has no meaning to me. Ever.
There were so many things wrong with the way that game ended that it wasn\'t even worthy of being called a Professional Game in the end.
As for Tony, man, you\'ve had one hell of a streak going as far as football wins goes. The one weekend I jump on the bandwagon, this atrocity of an ending happens. Yeah, this just might be one of the reasons why I like College more than Pro -- Terrell Owens.
Stealing a line from Tony, I too have never been more of a Tampa Bay Buccaneers fan in my life, and I personally hope that Ronde rips TO a new asshole.
See Yuz.
Exactly. The fact that this was called a professional game disgusts me. The end of that thing, with Owens and Williams was absolutely horrible. Owens instigates it twice, and Williams gets tossed. ****ing bullshit.
Nothing, and I mean nothing would be more satisfying right now than seeing Ronde Barber end Owens career.
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It doesn\'t really matter because Bucs would school either team.
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If the Giants would of acted cool they could of got some yards, instead they screwed up and played the same game as Owens - which was fighting. That is yet another reason they lost the game.
Defending your teammates? Please.
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Have you ever played team sports LIC?
And I can just picture Lynch teeing up on Owens now. :)
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Barber owns Jason Seahorn. This will not be the walk in the park Owens had tonight.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
If the Giants would of acted cool they could of got some yards, instead they screwed up and played the same game as Owens - which was fighting. That is yet another reason they lost the game.
Defending your teammates? Please.
You have no idea what you are talking about. I can say that with total confidence. "Defending your teammates? Please." Yeah, **** you too. You have absolutely no idea what that is like. Owens picked fights with Giants on two consecutive plays, and wasn\'t tossed. That is a crime. If I were Shaun Williams on the second play, I would have knocked him down, then made sure he didn\'t get back up. And yes, it is defending your god damn teammates.
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Shock, I had a lot more respect for you in the sense I didn\'t think you took things so damn personal on the boards. That level has dropped within this thread, as you are easily upset over a friggin\' ball game. Yes, it was just a ball game and it\'s all opinions. Sign off the boards, take some valium and come back. A fresh perspective may help you calm down.
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I\'m glad you had respect for me. And if that respect drops, then oh ****ing well. I\'m pissed, I need to vent, I\'m here. You don\'t like it, don\'t respond.
And I don\'t take things personal on the boards, by the way. I\'m just pissed off in general, and that is being shown here. Post in any other thread, and I will be posting as I always do.
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Just picture LIC getting hit by Lynch. :p ;)
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:)
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I don\'t get how Owens talking trash to the players is any different than Shockey talking shit. Only difference is that Shockey did it in the beginning when the tensions weren\'t so on the edge. Owens did it at the end when people jumped on him. Both were wrong. Just one is on the team you like.
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That\'s pretty sad using expletives and cursing because someone doesn\'t agree with you, but to each their own. Look, the Giants lost and Owens did not get tossed because although his hit was bad, but there is a rule for it alluding to yard gain for the opposite team, but physically striking another playing AFTER the play way over on the sidelines is just poor judgement and the guy got tossed for it.
It\'s obvious even the Giants didn\'t tolerate that crap when they tossed THEIR OWN player to the ground to stop him from starting anything. Yes, sticking up for your team is one thing, but NFL players know their limits and that was obvious with their final actions. Owens pushed it, sure, but right from the pre-game, we all knew this wasn\'t going to end pretty and that\'s that. The second half the Niners dominated and to blame the whole game on those final few incidents is to ignore the whole 24 point defecit that the niners overcame with great play calling and great defense.
Hate Owens, that\'s cool, in fact, I partially agree that he was an ass there, but it\'s still just a game and hardly worth swearing at other members for especially since it\'s something that none of us really had any hand in.
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Originally posted by Videoholic
I don\'t get how Owens talking trash to the players is any different than Shockey talking shit. Only difference is that Shockey did it in the beginning when the tensions weren\'t so on the edge. Owens did it at the end when people jumped on him. Both were wrong. Just one is on the team you like.
Simple. Owens went beyond talking trash. Talking trash is fine, especially if you back it up. He crossed a different line though.
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How did he do anything more than the Giants players did? I just don\'t get it. Quit talking like a homer. Look at the game like an unbiased viewer.
Owens is an asshole. True. But the Giants were just as dirty. And stupid as hell too as Collinsworth pointed out over and over again.
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Originally posted by Ryu
That\'s pretty sad using expletives and cursing because someone doesn\'t agree with you, but to each their own. Look, the Giants lost and Owens did not get tossed because although his hit was bad, it\'s happened before and there is a rule for it alluding to yard gain for the opposite team, but physically striking another playing AFTER the play is way over on the sidelines is just poor judgement and the guy got tossed for it.
It\'s obvious even the Giants didn\'t tolerate that crap when they tossed THEIR OWN player to the ground to stop him from starting anything. Yes, sticking up for your team is one thing, but NFL players know their limits and that was obvious with their final actions. Owens pushed it, sure, but right from the pre-game, we all knew this wasn\'t going to end pretty and that\'s that. The second half the Niners dominated and to blame the whole game on those final few incidents is to ignore the whole 24 point defecit that the niners overcame with great play calling and great defense.
Hate Owens, that\'s cool, in fact, I partially agree that he was an ass there, but it\'s still just a game and hardly worth swearing at other members for especially since it\'s something that none of us really had any hand in.
First of all, I\'m wasn\'t talking as I was because someone disagreed. I was talking like that anyway, and then he happened to disagree with me, and I continued talking like that.
Second, I am not defending what Shaun Williams did. Not at all. However, I think that what Owens did was worse. He instigated it. And what Shaun Williams did, while it was long after the play, was while stuff started by Owens was still going on.
Third, I\'m not blaming our losing solely on that play. However, that was a part of it. I am very much pissed off at a lot of things following that game, and the Giants defense is a very big part of that.
And if you look back at what happened, you\'ll see I wasn\'t swearing at any members, other than Fayded/Cory, who I know off these boards. What I said to him had nothing to do with anything here. As for LIC, I guess he just pressed me at the wrong time, and I reacted. Did I react in the best way? Probably not. Do I have any regrets about it though? No. I was pissed off, and I will defend how I reacted.
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Originally posted by Videoholic
How did he do anything more than the Giants players did? I just don\'t get it. Quit talking like a homer. Look at the game like an unbiased viewer.
Owens is an asshole. True. But the Giants were just as dirty. And stupid as hell too as Collinsworth pointed out over and over again.
In my first post after the game, I believe, I said I blame Shaun Williams for the loss. I know that what he did was stupid. I jsut think that Owens should have been tossed too. What did he do? He instigated fights on two straight plays. There is no way around that. There is no way he should have not been thrown out.
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How do you instigate a fight? Talking trash? 99% of trash talking is to get the opponent off his game. To make him break. To make him lash out and get 15. Owens is pretty damn good at that.
Don\'t get me wrong, I don\'t give a shit about either of these teams and I don\'t mean to stand up for Owens, I\'m just trying to get you to realize that there are two sides to this coin.
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Ok... time for my post here.... *clears throat*
[size=30]NINERS OWNED THE GIANTS[/color][/size]
The Giants deserved to lose. If you blow a 24 point lead that late in the game, you deserve to lose. It all came down to the momentum factor. The Niners surged unexpectedly and broke the game open and the Giants were just stunned. They pretty much flipped the tables and shoved it down the Giants throat. That game was f***ing amazing to say the least.
And yes, Niners > Giants. If Giants were so much better they wouldn\'t have blown such a ridiculous lead.
As for Terrell Owens... HE IS THE MAN. CAN YOU SAY TALENT?!! I CAN. He burned the Giants defense and left them dazed and with question marks floating above their heads. I don\'t care what you say, that guy is THE BEST WR IN THE NFL. Don\'t hate just because he can get arrogant.
Oh and also, Shockey = Owens. They are the exact same player, except Shockey goes ballistic if he catches like a 5 yard pass. They both are hot headed shit talkers. Except I\'d rather have a Terrell Owens on my team than a Jeremy Shockey.
I\'m glad I wasn\'t at 3com and got hit by that water that Shockey threw in the crowd, I would have jumped over the wall and kneed him in his balls.
The better team won. And this is the EXACT thing the Niners needed. WE FINALLY HAVE MOMENTUM, HOLY SHIT! We came into the playoffs like we started this game, sluggish. Now we have a foundation set and hopefully can snowball over the NFC and into the Superbowl.
Buccaneers are going the **** down.
And why hasn\'t this guy been brought up? He\'s the commander in chief here. Much props to Garcia for never, ever giving up.
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.cnn.net%2Fsi%2Ffootball%2F2003%2Fplayoffs%2Fnews%2F2003%2F01%2F05%2Fustease_sunday%2Ft1_garcia_ap-01.jpg&hash=09b015bb1395bdda52e8504756fd3ed7317365a6)
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The fact that you were talking like that at all, and then directed it towards other members it what bothers me. Swearing is common place here, but telling members "#### you" and the like doesn\'t make it OK because you were pissed and that\'s that. It\'s a game, no need for any of that at all. Sure, you can be pissed, no one has a problem with that, but when you project it at other members, it does create a problem.
Being pissed is cool, but projecting it at others with cursing and the like is not ok and it\'s as simple as that.
It\'s a game. Teams win and lose in a number of different ways, but that\'s life. Sorry you\'re upset.
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Originally posted by Videoholic
How do you instigate a fight? Talking trash? 99% of trash talking is to get the opponent off his game. To make him break. To make him lash out and get 15. Owens is pretty damn good at that.
Don\'t get me wrong, I don\'t give a shit about either of these teams and I don\'t mean to stand up for Owens, I\'m just trying to get you to realize that there are two sides to this coin.
And how am I not saying there are? I already told you, I think Shaun Williams is an idiot for what he did. I just think that what Owens did to instigate the fight is just as bad. If anything, you need to see it goes both ways. You are trying to tell me Owens did nothing wrong, which is bullshit. I\'m trying to tell you they both did something wrong.
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I\'m not saying Owens did nothing wrong.. All I said was that Shockey did the sasme thing Owens did. You were just all over Owens like he is some total asshole when all he is guilty of being is a talker.
And to tell you the truth, if anyone is going to talk, I think he certainly backed it up. He freaking owned the Giants defense. He could have said, "Hey Seahorn! I\'m going to go up and run a post. I\'ll probably catch the ball right over there." Then proceed to go out and do just that. Oh, and then get a 20 YAC.
And Vapor, this could be a damn good game. Home field advantage will certainly play a factor. Bucs stadium is a tough place to play.
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Originally posted by Ryu
The fact that you were talking like that at all, and then directed it towards other members it what bothers me. Swearing is common place here, but telling members "#### you" and the like doesn\'t make it OK because you were pissed and that\'s that. It\'s a game, no need for any of that at all. Sure, you can be pissed, no one has a problem with that, but when you project it at other members, it does create a problem.
Being pissed is cool, but projecting it at others with cursing and the like is not ok and it\'s as simple as that.
It\'s a game. Teams win and lose in a number of different ways, but that\'s life. Sorry you\'re upset.
I\'ll deal with things my way, you deal with things yours. I was angry, I found myself here. If someone doesn\'t want me reacting as I did, they don\'t push me when I\'m clearly upset.
And sure, it is just a game. And maybe I overreacted. Then again, maybe I just view the game a little differently than you. Either way, how about you don\'t judge what I do. What I said was to LIC. If he has a problem with it...fine, I\'ll deal with it with him. I don\'t need to deal with it with anyone else though. If LIC has a problem, and wants to say something to me, then he can. I can be PMed, and I have plenty of other contact methods clearly listed here. If he wants to say something to me, I\'ll listen to it. However, I don\'t need you getting on my case for it, and spitting one of your little life lessons my way. I know what I did, I know how I reacted. I\'m smart enough to know what happened.
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Vid: I still disagree. I guess I\'ll just leave it there, because neither of us are getting anything across to the other.
Vapor: Yeah, I\'ll deal with what you said on AIM, if you\'ll respond...
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Who\'s spewing a life lesson? I\'m telling you not to flame other members, ESPECIALLY admins\\moderators.
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Originally posted by Ryu
It\'s a game. Teams win and lose in a number of different ways, but that\'s life. Sorry you\'re upset.
And once again, if LIC has a problem, I\'ll take it up with him. He\'s a smart person, he can speak for himself.
Look, this is how it is. I post on here what I would say to someone in real life. I\'m not going to hold myself back for fear of offending someone on a message board. If I\'d say it in real life, I\'ll say it here. If I have to censor myself on things like that, them maybe this isn\'t the board for me.
I know what the rules are as far as mods and admins. I admin at a board with these same rules, owned by these same people. And I know what you\'re doing. If a newer member did what I did to an older member at the board I admin at, people would be saying the same thing to him. I totally know where you\'re coming from. All the same though, I know what I did, and I still defend it. And I\'m not going to treat mods and admins differently either, by the way. You post like normal members, so you\'ll get reactions that normal members would get.
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Well, I\'m not going to say much, but I guess I\'ll continue with that "Just a game" statement.
Different places, different faces, different reactions. Here in Nebraska, we got one team. They\'re nationally recognized, and outside of this year, one of the Top 10 programs in the country. Nebraska football isn\'t just a sport, it\'s the reputation of the state. When most people think of Nebraska, they think of Corn and Football. For some, it\'s just a game, but for others...it\'s the reputation of a society, and for the few, an entire state.
When people lay that "it\'s just a game", I scoff at them. If you don\'t know the psychee of the person, the statement means nothing.
Oh, and smacking somebody in the back of the helmet after a play is well dead is much worse than tossing ice at a kid while not looking. To further go into that -- the Kid got a football, and Shaun Williams got tossed, while TO didn\'t.
Those two incidents are in NO WAY related. Shockey tossed ice over his shoulder, and Terrell Owens instigates fights in two consecutive plays.
See Yuz.
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Originally posted by Ryu
Who\'s spewing a life lesson? I\'m telling you not to flame other members, ESPECIALLY admins\\moderators.
Why should admins be treated with more respect?
I\'m not saying Owens did nothing wrong.. All I said was that Shockey did the sasme thing Owens did. You were just all over Owens like he is some total asshole when all he is guilty of being is a talker.
I\'ll be the first to point out that giving a late hit 3 seconds after the whistle is not just a talker. :rolleyes:
Owens is trash, trying to defend him is just sad.
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Thank you Bozco. In a few lines, you\'ve summed up what I\'ve been saying in here all day :) I couldn\'t agree more with what you said.
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:rolleyes:
First off, I don\'t demand special respect for being a m0d. I could care less. I can still carry my weight with or without m0d "powers". However, I think Ryu\'s point was that it has always been a general idea to respect those select few more so than others. That\'s not a problem tho\'.
The problem is the personal attackin\' goin\' on in this thread. Shock, you was simply acting childish. I understand being upset. Hell, I would of been upset if the Niners would of lost, but I wouldn\'t go around cursing you. Espically over something as trivial as a simple football game . It is childish. You complain that Owen\'s is childish but you are doin\' the same thing, in my opinion.
I don\'t think Ryu was giving a life lesson either. I think he was simply pointing out the overly obvious. The way you acted was not proper, espically in these forums.
As for the actual game. I agree with Vapor. The Giants blew it. You can blame it on whatever factor you want, but they lost a huge lead in the second half of the game and that is because Niner\'s had a better team on the field.
And let\'s face it, you\'re upset because you thought The Giants had a sure win, espically durin\' that first half. Now you\'re positive that The Bucs will own the Niners - how upset are you goin\' to be if they don\'t? Maybe they will, maybe they won\'t. If they do, I sure won\'t get on here and start cursing everyone who has a different opinion than me. Why? Because I realize ITS JUST A FRICKIN\' FOOTBALL GAME.
Like I said earlier, I had a lot more respect for you. I didn\'t see you as the type to get on here and start cursing at other members over opinions. I guess you learn something new everyday.
-shrugs-
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I just would like to say that I give you respect, LIC, not because you\'re a mod, but because of how you handle yourself. Thats how it should be.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I love Vapor Snake
EDIT: I noticed you agreed with me, hence I\'m editing this. I love you LIC. Bear my children.
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not to go off topic, but thats another saying that doesnt make sense to me. I hear everyone say "I could care less" about something they couldnt care less about.(like vapor pointed out) Another one that ticks me off because im the only person who says it, but everyone says "same difference" when things are the same, while i say "same thing." why do people say "same difference when its similar and theres NO difference at all. Doesnt make sense to me. Anyway, to stay on topic, i think owens is an ass and the giants player shouldnt hvae been ejected since he was just protecting his teamate. Im sorry, but if owens had someone like vick\'s athletic capabilities, wed never hear the end of it from ownes. Hes a loudmouth dumb*** who should just play the damn game and not trashtalk the whole time and showoff. Sure, hes good at what he does, but the things he does after pisses me and many others off.
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Haha... the funniest thing is when T.O. scored and Strahan grabbed him and pointed at the scoreboard.
HEY STRAHAN, *points at scoreboard*, SUCK ON THAT BITCH.
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First off, I don\'t demand special respect for being a m0d. I could care less. I can still carry my weight with or without m0d "powers". However, I think Ryu\'s point was that it has always been a general idea to respect those select few more so than others. That\'s not a problem tho\'.
Exactly. I just figured it was a general rule of thumb to at least show some courtesy to those who fix the forum, build on it, and add to it. Not to mention pay the bills, but I have no say in that at all, but it is something that bjorn, as an administrator, does.
I personally don\'t expect anything except for those people who post to follow the rules. It\'s not a hard thing to do, especially in such a place as outgoing as off-topic.
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Well I was stuck in the bay area (Concord to be specific) all weekend because I blew a tire while taking my Cuz back home (****ing Martinez bridge has pot holes up the ass and they shredded one of my tires). I stayed at her house until I got the tire fixed, and by the time I got ready to go, I had missed the first 1/4 of the game, and had to listen to the game on the radio until I got back home right after the start of the third. I really lucked out in the fact that I got to see the amazing finish. Also during the late 4th quarter I almost crashed two different times because of Niner touchdowns. All in all, I have to say this is the best Niner playoff game since the NFC championchip against the cowboys, with Montana to Clark toping off the niner come back.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
:rolleyes:
First off, I don\'t demand special respect for being a m0d. I could care less. I can still carry my weight with or without m0d "powers". However, I think Ryu\'s point was that it has always been a general idea to respect those select few more so than others. That\'s not a problem tho\'.
The problem is the personal attackin\' goin\' on in this thread. Shock, you was simply acting childish. I understand being upset. Hell, I would of been upset if the Niners would of lost, but I wouldn\'t go around cursing you. Espically over something as trivial as a simple football game . It is childish. You complain that Owen\'s is childish but you are doin\' the same thing, in my opinion.
I don\'t think Ryu was giving a life lesson either. I think he was simply pointing out the overly obvious. The way you acted was not proper, espically in these forums.
As for the actual game. I agree with Vapor. The Giants blew it. You can blame it on whatever factor you want, but they lost a huge lead in the second half of the game and that is because Niner\'s had a better team on the field.
And let\'s face it, you\'re upset because you thought The Giants had a sure win, espically durin\' that first half. Now you\'re positive that The Bucs will own the Niners - how upset are you goin\' to be if they don\'t? Maybe they will, maybe they won\'t. If they do, I sure won\'t get on here and start cursing everyone who has a different opinion than me. Why? Because I realize ITS JUST A FRICKIN\' FOOTBALL GAME.
Like I said earlier, I had a lot more respect for you. I didn\'t see you as the type to get on here and start cursing at other members over opinions. I guess you learn something new everyday.
-shrugs-
LIC, as for the personal stuff, I was simply angry, and reacting with anger. I respect what you said about mods and admins, and I agree with it. I also respect you, as a member. I guess you just said something that happened to rub me the wrong way at that time, and I reacted. Once again, nothing personal, I would have done the same with anyone else. And I won\'t take anything that happened here out of this thread either. I never do. I only hope you\'ll do the same.
As for the game, yes, the Giants blew it. I won\'t deny that. Like I said, I blame it more on Shaun Williams than any other individual. Sehorn, the entire Giants pass rush, and others deserve it too. We did blow it. It\'s just that the Owens crap doesn\'t help.
As for it being just a game, as people have said, different ones of us take this stuff different ways. I know of certain others who have reacted this exact same way towards me, on these boards, after games. I just don\'t take it this same way. It is nothing personal. Some people are going to react like this, especially after a game like that.
I am not positive that the Bucs will own the Niners. I think they will...the Bucs were my pick out of the NFC, and I sure do want them too, but if they don\'t, that\'s not as big of a deal. You won\'t see me reacting this way again for a long time, because there isn\'t anything in sports that could get such a reaction from me for a while.
As for you losing respect for me, I\'m sorry if you did. I guess you did learn something though. I post the way I would talk to someone in real life. That happens to be the kind of state of mind I was in at the time, so yes, that is how I reacted. Like I said though, I won\'t take it out of the thread. That is what I\'d like people to see about me.
Ryu: Showing you respect is one thing. Posting differently around you is something completely different. I\'m not going to post differently around such regular members just because of some position they hold here at the boards. If someone says something, I\'ll respond to it, no matter who they are.
I too hold endless respect for Bjorn and Richie. If it weren\'t for them, we wouldn\'t be here afterall. But hey, all though they do pay the bills, who gets that money for them? It\'s the visitors to this site, who click on the advertisements. You have to remember, a website is a business. The people who post here are your customers. That is how you have to treat this.
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
not to go off topic, but thats another saying that doesnt make sense to me. I hear everyone say "I could care less" about something they couldnt care less about.(like vapor pointed out) Another one that ticks me off because im the only person who says it, but everyone says "same difference" when things are the same, while i say "same thing." why do people say "same difference when its similar and theres NO difference at all. Doesnt make sense to me.
OMG, Get out of my head!!! It annoys the hell out of me.
Saying you could care less means you care. YOU COULDN\'T CARE LESS!!! That means you care nothing at all!!! Same difference makes about as much sense. Oh it drives me crazy.
And this whole Shockwaves vs. LIC/RYU crap. can we just drop it? Shock, if you want to call a mod an asshole or a #### or whatever, say it to me. I think I may be one of the only ones here that doesn\'t give a rats ass.
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Shutup bitch.
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Does that say infinite penis or infected penis?
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I taped the game, but after hearing what happened I can\'t watch it I\'ll f*cking have a heart attack and probably end up in the ER today after the Giants blew that shit, I remember them doing this against a team a few years back can\'t remember it was the days of the Cowboys. Damn I hate them right now how the f*ck do you blow a 24 point lead and then fumble the snap to fg to win the game, god damn I\'m stopping before I post shit that I don\'t want to.
*end of rant*
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Worst thing is that the dude could have just spiked the ball and tried one more hike from center. Oh that can\'t possibly sit well.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
I taped the game, but after hearing what happened I can\'t watch it I\'ll f*cking have a heart attack and probably end up in the ER today after the Giants blew that shit, I remember them doing this against a team a few years back can\'t remember it was the days of the Cowboys. Damn I hate them right now how the f*ck do you blow a 24 point lead and then fumble the snap to fg to win the game, god damn I\'m stopping before I post shit that I don\'t want to.
*end of rant*
That entire 4th quarter, I was reliving the game I believe you are talking about. 1998, Giants, Vikings. The Giants blew a 14 point lead in the last two mintues to lose the game.
Vid: I don\'t want to call anyone an asshole, or whatever. I wasn\'t targetting a mod or anything. I just don\'t like the fact that if someone else says something like that to me, which has happened several times on this board, it means nothing. However, if I say something like that to a mod, this happens. *shrug*
Oh well, I\'m over it. I could care less now ;)
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Vid: I don\'t want to call anyone an asshole, or whatever. I wasn\'t targetting a mod or anything. I just don\'t like the fact that if someone else says something like that to me, which has happened several times on this board, it means nothing. However, if I say something like that to a mod, this happens. *shrug*
Oh well, I\'m over it. I could care less now ;)
Yeah, you just have to learn who you can really talk to. I mean, you can\'t fart in front of the queen, but you can do it under your covers and make your girlfriend smell it.
see my point?
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That\'s because the queen sets herself apart in every aspect of her life. Until moderators and admins start posting with a disclaimer in their signatures or something, I\'m gonna treat them how I would treat anyone else. Besides, as an admin, I would much rather someone say what they are thinking about me than to not say it.
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Ok, how about this. The NFL released an official statement today saying that the refs made the wrong call at the end of the game. There should have been one more play.
""If defensive pass interference had been called,\'\' an NFL statement explained, "there would have been offsetting penalties (ineligible receiver against the Giants and pass interference against the 49ers), with the down replayed at the original line of scrimmage, the San Francisco 23-yard line. Although time had expired, a game cannot end with offsetting penalties. Thus, the game would have been extended by one untimed down.\'\'
Talk about a screw job.
Here\'s the source (http://msn.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs02/s/2003/0106/1487933.html)
So yeah, I can now say with full confidence that the Giants were screwed out of the game. Great, just great.
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To add on to that, during the FG, #65 (I don\'t have names, I don\'t know the Giants\' O-Lineman outside of Chris Bober) WAS Eligible on the play, due to the fact that he was on the outside of the line, while #69 was not. #65 was the one who was pulled down, thus, Pass Interference should have been called.
Kinda makes you wonder where the **** the refs heads are. If they\'re going to toss people out for stupid actions, maybe they should get their own damn heads checked.
No, Vapor, this was NOT one of the greatest playoff games, unless you\'re a man of screwjobs, which I know you are not.
See Yuz.
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The more I read this, the worse it gets. The man was in fact eligable, so pass interference should have been called. Not only that, but even if he was ineligable, there should have been another play. Had everything been called right, the Giants had another play from inside the ten due to them. Talk about a screw job. Wow.
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I\'m sure he would have shanked the kick anyways or some other typical choke maneuver you\'d expect from the Giants special teams.
Giants deserved to lose that game. Go Niners, beat the Bucs.
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Deserved to lose that game? Ha, yeah, that\'s it :rolleyes:
If the right calls are made, the Giants have a FG from extra point range to win the game. I\'m sure he misses that :rolleyes:
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You can\'t kick a ball if no one is holding it.
Sucks forg Giants fans, but damn controversy is awesome.
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Well if there\'s not gonna be a rematch then this is all pretty much useless info isn\'t it?
The only thing that bothers me is that now regardless how well the Niners do here on out people will keep pointing their finger at this.
Niners won.
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I don\'t think you have to worry about the Niner\'s making it much farther.
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Niners won. You know, kinda like the Soviets won the basketball gold in \'72. And the Giants lost. Kinda like Roy Jones in \'88. They should be pointing fingers at this. The Niners should not have won, and should not still be alive. Had the right call been made, the Giants have a 20 yard FG to win it. Had the wrong call been made, they STILL have another shot at the FG. They weren\'t even given that. Total screwjob.
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GO COWBOYS!
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Jesus, you\'re not amusing at all.
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The GM of the Giants did a good job taking the high road. Did you hear him on ESPN? He was just saying that even with the bad calls they still blew a 24 point lead and that is inexcusable.
You know behind closed dorrs he is pissed as hell, but it\'s good for the game that he is taking the high road.
All I keep thinking about is Shockey gloating to the camera after his TD and Strahan showing Owens the scoreboard. HAHAHAHAHA
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Yeah, I heard that too. That\'s why he\'s the GM. He can say things like that, no matter how much it might hurt.
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I would be much more understanding and probably not care as much if this was the regular season. This was the playoffs for shitsakes.
Everyone always points fingers at coaches, athletes, managers, and owners. rarely are the refs and officials under fire. Its time for things to change.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Man, go Giants. 28 points in the first half...this rules!
edit: 35-14. What was that you were saying earlier Mystiq? That\'s what I thought.
DAMN IT!!! Too bad I wasn\'t around the computer earlier, that way this post won\'t seem so late. But it is ohh well.
35-14, if the Giants were really as great as they think they were, that\'s how the game would of ended or worst.
Ohh, but now I read the Giants were screwed because of that call. *Takes one second to feel sorry for them*. Yeah, it sucks to lose a game, especially if they had the opportunity to win. But, they didn\'t. The penalty was called, and it doesn\'t matter anymore. Besides, that bad call by the officials is nothing compared to the way the niners came back into the game.
I read some posts, not all of them, I was amazed to see people call T.O. a clown and all those names. T.O. is the best wide receiver out there, if he scores then why the hell shouln\'t he be able to celebrate?
It\'s a game, in a game you have fun, without any fun then it isn\'t a game.
I think football is gettin a little carried away with the taunting penalties. Like T.O. said, if you dont like it stop him. Nobody has, and if there is any player that behaved like a clown during that game was shockey, throwing water at the fans and having his little tantrums. Im glad he wasn\'t allowed to play like the big boy he thinks he is.
It was a cluttered ending to an exhausting game, but the 49ers didn\'t apologize Monday for their victory. After all, they\'re still convinced that Ahmed Plummer intercepted a pass by Kerry Collins two plays before the botched field goal.
"When Pereira called 49ers coach Steve Mariucci to explain the league\'s statement, Mariucci\'s response was sarcastic: "Bummer.\'\'
Actually, Mariucci thought Okeafor would be called for pass interference in the moments after the play occurred -- but when no penalty was called, he joined his team in the celebration.
"That\'s the way it goes,\'\' Mariucci said. "What do you want me to say? Just like coaching and playing, in officiating, there\'s never going to be a perfect game.\'\'
--http://msn.espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs02/s/2003/0106/1487933.html--
"bummer"<
The game should of been over anyways with the interception.
One New York team down, one to go.
4 ways to tell if you\'re a real fan:
1.) Always thinks his team is going to win, never thinks otherwise.
2.) Cheers for his team even if they seem to be playin like a bunch of 8th graders.
3.) You don\'t give a damn about stats, or how good the other team is said to be, you believe your team is going to twin and if they don\'t, well there\'s always next year.
4.) NEVER makes up excuses for his teams loss, a loss is a loss.
That\'s to all of you guys that said I should be so sure about the niners winning. I would of replied earlier but I was shacking from the tension and I was too happy to even think of turning on my computer. :D
GO NINERS!!!
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Thanks for reitterating everything people said in the last two pages about it. You obviously didn\'t read many of the last 50 posts in this topic, despite what you say.
How about you actually read the topic before you come out saying dumb, unbacked statements. Oh, and I\'m SURE that you\'ve never been mad over a Niners loss. See, Your man Mariucchi isn\'t the only man who can be sarcastic.
See Yuz.
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I said I didn\'t read the posts. But, **** it im a Niner fan, and I just couln\'t live with myself without posting something up about the game. Sorry if it bothered you. Yeah, I\'ve been pretty pissed off about the Niners losing before. I just didn\'t go all crazy and try to justify it by blaming it on bad penalty calls.
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Mystiq...I told myself I wouldn\'t insult another person in this thread as I did to LIC...but you are REALLY pushing it.
Don\'t you ever, ever, even think about telling me what it means to be a real fan. Never. You got that?
And that post of mine you quoted still makes sense. What you said was that if the Niners win, it won\'t be by luck. Considering the NFL made a public statement saying the Giants were screwed out of the game, something that is extremely rare, and almost never happens, says something. It was luck...don\'t try to deny it.
Owens was talking, nothing more? He hit a player 5 seconds after a play ended. That is more than talking. What shockey did was an accident. Afterwards, he personally apologized to the fan, and signed a football for the fan. He hadn\'t meant to throw the water into the crowd, and he took responsibility for it. Sounds like a stand up guy to me.
And everyone there thought it was a pass interference call. And it should have been. Rightfully, this game should not be over yet. The NFL has only made public statements apologizing for a play a couple of times in its history. When it does, you know something went very wrong. And in this case, it did.
And about Owens, he is neither the most talented WR, or the best. Those titles go to Moss and Harrison respectively. It\'s just that Sehorn can\'t cover a good WR to save his life, and the Giants stupidly refused to have Allen or Peterson shadow Owens.
This game was a joke. The officiating was a joke. The play was a joke. The shit that went on after the plays was a joke. Anyone to consider this thing a great game...I\'d question their standards. This game was a joke on all sides of the ball.
And if you honestly think those 4 things are what makes a good fan, then I pity you. You have no idea what being a fan is all about.
I have always said that officiating doesn\'t decide games, except in extreme cases. My example for that has always been the Roy Jones Jr. match in 88. Well, when there is a public apology, it is extreme. Officiating is far from the only reason the Giants lost, but it sure was one of em.
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
I read some posts, not all of them, I was amazed to see people call T.O. a clown and all those names. T.O. is the best wide receiver out there, if he scores then why the hell shouln\'t he be able to celebrate?
Hmm, people just may cal him a clown because he showboats the most when its plain as day obvious he isn\'t the best reciever in football. And theres a difference from celebrating and delivering a late hit over 3 seconds after the whistle. Theres no explaning that and I love how nobody even trys to.
I think football is gettin a little carried away with the taunting penalties. Like T.O. said, if you dont like it stop him. Nobody has, and if there is any player that behaved like a clown during that game was shockey, throwing water at the fans and having his little tantrums. Im glad he wasn\'t allowed to play like the big boy he thinks he is.
Shockey is trash, TO is worse. If you think Shockey is that bad obviously your view on TO is clouded by you being a 49er\'s fan. Must I mention again the trash late hit he gave. :rolleyes: Taunting is one thing, what TO does is another.
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Pity me all you want.
Yeah, there is more to being a fan than those four things. If you don\'t think thats right, then more power to you. I believe what I said, and you can insult me as much as you can shockwaves, they\'re just words. I don\'t belive in the "act how you talk" way of thinking. If it takes cussing and insults to get a point across then go ahead. As long as you make a point, and not try to make the other person look bad just so people will see things your way.
What shockey did was not an accident, NOBODY swings a cup that hard and high and "accidentaly" hits the fans.
A game is a game. This game was great, and no it wasn\'t luck when Jeff Garcia ran the ball into the in-zone for a touch down. No, it wasn\'t luck that allowed the niners to come back in this game. NO, the last play of the game wasn\'t luck, it\'s called a mistake. A mistake was made, the snap was bad, and they ended up not making the field goal. If the Giants had the right for another play, then to that I can\'t agree with. Doesn\'t matter what the rest of the world says.
Late hit, yeah he did it. Just because it\'s T.O. people don\'t take it as it is, a penalty. That was a penalty, there\'s lots of penalties like that in a bunch of games. You don\'t know for certain if all the other penalties other players made were on purpose, they were still made and that\'s what it was called.
I stand up for what I said, and I will continue too. T.O. is one of the best out there, so is Jeff Garcia, so is Bryant Young, and Parrish. The whole 49er team is. Again, like T.O. said, if you dont like him taunting and having fun, then stop him.
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if the whole 49er team were the best out there they wouldnt be in the wild card. :) just a random observation. Dont really have any interests towars either team so i wont make an arguement on who shouldve won but im sticking with the falcons to win the superbowl. My plan is that the falcons beat the eagles, the 49ers upset(thats right upset, u cant disagree what-so-ever 49er fans) the buccs, then the falcons will make the superbowl. Seems like brooks and the tampa D is the only team that can contain vick.
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Are you telling me the Niners aren\'t lucky that the officials screwed up? Ha.
I didn\'t swear at you. The only time I insulted you was in response to you insulting me. And I totally disagree with the 4 things you posted. Say what you will about that.
And a penalty like Owens is not just a penalty. How can you not see that? It started a fight. If it were anyone else, I would have reacted. Terrell is no different.
I\'ll disagree with what you said in a lot of places here. Like Bozco said, I think that your judgement is clouded by the fact that this is your team. Owens IS one of the best WRs, as you said this time. He is not THE best, as you said last time. Big difference.
And what Shockey does was an accident. And even if it wasn\'t, at least he made up for it. That fan goes home with the best sports experience of his life. Owens hasn\'t apologized for the crap he pulled. He\'s celebrated it. There\'s your difference.
And since when did you become an expert on why people do things, whether it is me, or a TE for the Giants? Some people :rolleyes:
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Not to be mean, but DUH! Yeah, everything I say will always be in favor of my team. That\'s why they\'re my team.
Shockey apologized, Owens didnt. Ok, Good enough. But, shockey did it to a fan, somebody that wasn\'t in the game. Owens did it because of anger, after the interception. Whats done is done, apologizing won\'t change it back. In this world, apologizing will probably make you look like a sissy, thats probably the only reason Owens hasn\'t apologized. Besides, he did it because he wanted to, why should he apologize for that? Yeah, it wasn\'t very mature, but it was a reaction, he did it out of anger probably. Yeah, it started a fight, but nobody made the Giant team fight back, they did it because they didn\'t like it, Who wouln\'t?
Yeah I did change my mind, T.O. is ONE of the best receivers, the other is Jerry Rice. :)
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Yeah. One thing I have always respected about Owens though is he seems like someone who really doesn\'t care what others think about him. So I don\'t really buy that apology thing. Also, I am sure that what Shockey did was an accident, and that fan sure did get plenty of compensation for it. I\'d love to have been that fan :).
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
In this world, apologizing will probably make you look like a sissy, thats probably the only reason Owens hasn\'t apologized.
WTF kind of comment is that,lol. a sissy for apologizing? I see it as him taking responsibility and recognizing his mistake and owning up to it which is hard for many people. So that comment wasnt the smartest IMO. I think shockey was ticked at the 49ers, then the fans booed him while hwas on the bench, then threw the ice not realizing how hard he threw it, and realized it was a mistake. Owens hasnt owned up to his mistake which is BS since 2 plays in a row he made a bunch of grown men look like 5 year olds. Not saying hes the only one that started the fight, was also the corner back of the giants the first time(forgot who it was). The second time that ejected the corner back i back him up on that. If you see ur teamate in a fight, u dont just lay back and hope he fights his way through. You help him out and knock the opponent on his @ss.
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Well, yeah T.O. doesn\'t care what people think about him. HEY, kinda like me!!
Who was that kid rooting for anyways? It depends on that too. I mean, if I was that fan, I would of prefered getting the ball signed by Jeff and Owens. I still would of took it though, I could of sold it.
Not all people think that way about apologizing.
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Yeah, perhaps.
If I were the fan, I wouldn\'t care either way. I mean, they got an NFL ball the players had been using, and it got signed. I wouldn\'t care if Mike Rumph signed it, it\'d still make my day.
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WOA!! That makes a difference, I tought the kid got a new football. He got the one they used, man he is lucky!!
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
Late hit, yeah he did it. Just because it\'s T.O. people don\'t take it as it is, a penalty. That was a penalty, there\'s lots of penalties like that in a bunch of games. You don\'t know for certain if all the other penalties other players made were on purpose, they were still made and that\'s what it was called.
I stand up for what I said, and I will continue too. T.O. is one of the best out there, so is Jeff Garcia, so is Bryant Young, and Parrish. The whole 49er team is. Again, like T.O. said, if you dont like him taunting and having fun, then stop him.
Offsides is a penatly, what TO did is a flagrant act of unsportsmenlike conduct.
TO should take some notes from real recievers like Marvin. He gets the job done and his celebration is knowing that his score is helping them win the game, unlike TO who is trash that talks no matter if they are up or down 20.
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
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WOA!! That makes a difference, I tought the kid got a new football. He got the one they used, man he is lucky!!
That was the impression I got, yeah. That would make any fan\'s day. :)
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Originally posted by Bozco
Offsides is a penatly, what TO did is a flagrant act of unsportsmenlike conduct.
TO should take some notes from real recievers like Marvin. He gets the job done and his celebration is knowing that his score is helping them win the game, unlike TO who is trash that talks no matter if they are up or down 20.
Word. I don\'t see how punching somebody in the back of the head after a play is the same as throwing water into the stands. Oh shit, I\'m sure that kid suffered severe mental anguish after GETTING WATER thrown on him.
Shockey\'s a gamer. As much as I hate it, he 0wned Nebraska in the Rose Bowl last year, and he\'s out there to play. Owens is out there to showboat. How does somebody get away with starting two fights? Seriously?
As for the call, that was just shit. These officials are paid to make the right call, and as far as I\'m concerned, they got caught up in the moment. They were making assumptions on a critical play, which is ridiculous.
Bedtime. Death to Owens. Uhm...Go Huskers?
See Yuz.
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Ok. One point I have to make on this. Yes, Owens does show-off, yep he does over do it(to me he doesn\'t though). But, hes a good player, just as good and better than shockey.
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Can\'t judge by position. As far as I"m concerned, Jeremy Shockey is the second best Tight End in Football, and it only took him a year to do it. If you look at stats, Amani Toomer owned Owens yesterday. Owens as far as stats goes is the best, but as far as production, he\'s nothing compared to Marvin Harrison, who, if nobody knew, broke the single-season receptions record this year, in fact, he beat it by about 25 receptions, and yet you hear next to nothing of it. Amazing.
See Yuz.
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How much do refs get paid?
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SirMystiq, please stop talking for T.O.
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Did you happen to catch the news yesterday? It turns out the refs made a mistake, they should have called pass interference bacause the interference was on an eligible reciever, not an ineligible. Just thought I would throw that in... so theoretically, the Giants got screwed...
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If Shockey cought just one of those TD Passes for 6 points in the 4th quarter, none of this would even be an issue.
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Simple fact is that the Giants lost I\'m sorry it had to be, but they lost even if they were screwed out on the last play of the game it shouldn\'t of even come down to the last play, but hey since it did we got screwed and nobody can deny us that. Next up the Jets will probably get screwed out of there game too.
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How much worse can the refs get. I have seen the 3 worst calls I have ever seen in my entire life. The sick thing is, i didnt care about any of the teams except the pack. If i can say i dont care about the teams and still think those were the worst calls ever, the refs are all blind. I hope every single one of them, expecially from the Miami game are fired. Lets just hire hobos from the streets, they can ref the games better.
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Originally posted by square_marker
I hope every single one of them, expecially from the Miami game are fired. Lets just hire hobos from the streets, they can ref the games better.
Thats odd, considering people are backing the call now. I\'m sure you couldn\'t ref better if you think its so clear cut on that call.
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
Ok. One point I have to make on this. Yes, Owens does show-off, yep he does over do it(to me he doesn\'t though). But, hes a good player, just as good and better than shockey.
Let me take a moment to say why I don\'t agree with Owens being as good as Shockey, at all. Shockey is at a position where you catch fewer passes. This is his rookie year, and he\'s already one of the top 2 TEs in the leagues, and the top in his conference. But also, look at his numbers compared to Owens, a WR.
In Owens rookies year, he played all 16 games, and started 10. He had 35 receptions for 520 yards.
In Shockey\'s rookie year, he has played in 15 games, and started 13. He had 74 receptions for 894 yards.
So in other words, comparing their rookie years, Shockey smokes Owens, despite the fact that Owens is a WR. No one peaks in their rookie year. As scary as it is, Shockey isn\'t close to peaking yet. And this despite the fact that he\'ll be starting in the Pro Bowl in this, his rookie season.
Oh, and one thing you\'re misunderstanding about how I view Owens. He can show off all he wants. If he wants to sign a ball, great! Be a cheerleader after a touchdown? Why not. And that thing he did in Dallas was one of the funnier things I\'ve ever seen in football. That stuff is all good. But when you\'re starting fights, that\'s just dirty. There is a difference between showing off, and playing dirty.
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That fagg0t Portis got rookie of the year over Shockey??? Did the Refs from the Sundays game get to vote on this shit too???
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Pfft. I could gain 1,000 yards in Denver.
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hell with those lineman and there cheap ass blocking skills they employ up there vapors penis could gain a thousand yards!!!1
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wtf are u smoking? Portis totally deserves the rookie of the year. And if shockey won, then he wouldve totally deserved rookie of the year. They both had great seasons, but it was up to some stats that you probably dont know about that put Portis in the lead. And for ur linemen comment, their rough, and they do do "iffy" things that have made them infamous. But as long as there is no yellow flag on the field, i see no problem what-so-ever on the wya they block. And shockwaves, iv agreed with every comment uv made so far, but u have to put into account that terrell owens had someone like jerry rice on his team while he was a rookie so that took a lot of his receptions from him.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Let me take a moment to say why I don\'t agree with Owens being as good as Shockey, at all. Shockey is at a position where you catch fewer passes. This is his rookie year, and he\'s already one of the top 2 TEs in the leagues, and the top in his conference. But also, look at his numbers compared to Owens, a WR.
In Owens rookies year, he played all 16 games, and started 10. He had 35 receptions for 520 yards.
In Shockey\'s rookie year, he has played in 15 games, and started 13. He had 74 receptions for 894 yards.
So in other words, comparing their rookie years, Shockey smokes Owens, despite the fact that Owens is a WR. No one peaks in their rookie year. As scary as it is, Shockey isn\'t close to peaking yet. And this despite the fact that he\'ll be starting in the Pro Bowl in this, his rookie season.
Oh, and one thing you\'re misunderstanding about how I view Owens. He can show off all he wants. If he wants to sign a ball, great! Be a cheerleader after a touchdown? Why not. And that thing he did in Dallas was one of the funnier things I\'ve ever seen in football. That stuff is all good. But when you\'re starting fights, that\'s just dirty. There is a difference between showing off, and playing dirty.
Heh, I could have sworn that there was another pretty good wide receiver on the team at the time. What was his name? Oh, Mr. Rice!!
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Rice > Life itself
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i swear to god noone reads my posts. Ah well, maybe 1 day ill get an avatar,lol.
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Originally posted by Videoholic
Heh, I could have sworn that there was another pretty good wide receiver on the team at the time. What was his name? Oh, Mr. Rice!!
So? It\'s not like there wasn\'t enough ball to go around. Rice had 1254 yards in Owens\' rookie year. Toomer had 1343 this year. *shrug*
And Mr. Fujax, I read your post. Thanks for agreeing. The only reason I don\'t agree with Portis though is that you can really put any NFL quality RB into that Bronco\'s offense, and the way the system is over there, they\'d have a good year, by the numbers. Davis did it, Gary did it, and Anderson did it. Besides, which rookie made the pro bowl? Which is the best at his position in his conference? And which has changed his team\'s entire offense? The answer is Shockey. That\'s also the answer to the question: "Who should have been rookie of the year?"
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Ok, *counts to ten*. You win, whatever.
A million insults and Stats that prove owens isn\'t the best doesn\'t cut it for me. But, whatever. 49ers ROCK!!
Yeah, Yeah Shockey rookie of the year, *smiles* all I know he isn\'t going to the superbowl this year.
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stats are pretty important since they tell what the players performance is. And noone insulted u. Only time i saw it was when u insulted someone else and they retaliated back. And if ur saying a million insults to T.O., he deserves it. And shockey wasnt rookie of the year so that comment made no sense. and niners arent gunna get to the superbowl either.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
So? It\'s not like there wasn\'t enough ball to go around. Rice had 1254 yards in Owens\' rookie year. Toomer had 1343 this year. *shrug*
And Mr. Fujax, I read your post. Thanks for agreeing. The only reason I don\'t agree with Portis though is that you can really put any NFL quality RB into that Bronco\'s offense, and the way the system is over there, they\'d have a good year, by the numbers. Davis did it, Gary did it, and Anderson did it. Besides, which rookie made the pro bowl? Which is the best at his position in his conference? And which has changed his team\'s entire offense? The answer is Shockey. That\'s also the answer to the question: "Who should have been rookie of the year?"
You are comparing a #1 WR in Toomer with no other big time WR on the team to a #1 WR LATE in his career on a team with a player like TO who they were trying to get into the system. Just stupid using stats here.
Whatever, you win. Just because...
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wouldnt that prove shocks point? Cuz if toomer is a number one reciever, and shockey got the kinds of stats he got as a rookie(and a tight end), and owens was also a rookie with a number 1 reciever in jerry rice and TO got worse stats when he was a rookie than shockey did. Showing, shockey did better considering both had other number 1 recievers that the QB\'s were throwing to.
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pfft. I guess.
pfft << I\'ve never used that before, did I use it correctly?
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No, it\'s my word.
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^^^
Please!?!?!?!
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Get out of my thread.
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Originally posted by Videoholic
You are comparing a #1 WR in Toomer with no other big time WR on the team to a #1 WR LATE in his career on a team with a player like TO who they were trying to get into the system. Just stupid using stats here.
Whatever, you win. Just because...
Don\'t get me wrong, I\'m definitely not trying to compare Toomer to Rice. I\'m just comparing the situations Owens and Shockey were in during their rookie years.
And yeah Mystiq, you used it right :)
And Cory...pfft...that\'s not your word. If you have a word, it\'s "cake" :p
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Originally posted by shockwaves
And Cory...pfft...that\'s not your word. If you have a word, it\'s "cake" :p
Bah.
Eat me.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Don\'t get me wrong, I\'m definitely not trying to compare Toomer to Rice. I\'m just comparing the situations Owens and Shockey were in during their rookie years.
And about your "better stats as rookies" argument compared to Shockey and Gonzo, when Gonzo was a rookie, he was dropping balls left and right. Not only that, but the Chiefs were a prodominant running team, and when they DID pass, it was Grbac to Derrick Alexander (who had over 1200 yards recieving in that year). So, when you combine the fact that the Chiefs used Kimble Anders, Tony Richardson, and Donnell Bennett as running backs, already had a passing game, Gonzo was just the man who was used when Alexander was getting double teamed when nobody else was there.
See Yuz.
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Originally posted by shockwaves
Don\'t get me wrong, I\'m definitely not trying to compare Toomer to Rice. I\'m just comparing the situations Owens and Shockey were in during their rookie years.
And yeah Mystiq, you used it right :)
And Cory...pfft...that\'s not your word. If you have a word, it\'s "cake" :p
I\'m not saying anything bad about Shockey. I think he kicks ass. I\'ve never said I didn\'t think he kicked ass. I wish I could have him on my fantasy team.
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You know how you know you\'ve been screwed? When the NFL changes its rules based on the officiating in your game. link (http://espn.go.com/nfl/playoffs02/s/2003/0107/1488896.html)