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Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: fastson on January 07, 2003, 08:34:28 PM
http://gamespot.com/gamespot/stories/news/0,10870,2908225,00.html

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PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology

Sony and Toshiba license technology from Rambus for the PlayStation 3 hardware.

The Cell processor, which will form the heart of the PlayStation 3, will use a new high-speed memory interface following a deal between Sony, Toshiba, and Rambus. Sony and Toshiba have licensed technology from Rambus that likely will be incorporated into a future version of the Sony game console. The two Japanese giants have licensed "Yellowstone," a high-speed interface for connecting memory to microprocessors, and "Redwood," a chip-to-chip connection, from the processor designer, the companies said.
Both Yellowstone and Redwood would be used to enhance the broadband capabilities of "Cell," a complex microprocessor that will likely power an upcoming version of Sony\'s PlayStation.

Cell, which is expected to come out in late 2004 or early 2005, substantially differs from current chips on the market. Developed by IBM, Sony, and Toshiba, the processor will contain multiple chips inside a single piece of silicon and will be geared toward delivering video, entertainment, interactive gaming, and other content. It will have the ability to do north of 1 trillion mathematical calculations per second, roughly 100 times more than a single Pentium 4 chip running at 2.5GHz.

Chips churning at that speed, though, need to be surrounded by high-speed links and similarly speedy chips to function properly, which is where Yellowstone and Redwood come in. Yellowstone can transfer data up to 100 gigabits per second, or three times faster than current high-speed memory  , said Laura Stark, vice president of the memory interface group at Rambus. In the end, the two technologies will allow chips to exchange audio or graphics data extremely rapidly, the companies said.

"Rambus is and will be the key player in the ultra high-speed interface technology," Ken Kutaragi, chief executive officer of Sony Computer Entertainment, said in a statement. "This enables us to create a wide range of applications and platforms, from high-end systems to digital consumer-electronics products within Sony."

The deal, which is expected to bring Rambus $28 million in revenue over the next 18 months, also in some ways marks the beginning of a new, or third, life for the controversial chip designer.


Weeeeeeeeee.. Not bad. :cool:
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: GmanJoe on January 07, 2003, 08:53:13 PM
I will go ahead and stand in line to buy the PS3 tomorrow night. :D
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: nataku on January 07, 2003, 09:25:27 PM
Too early... wake me up in 2 years when the PS3 is actually close to release.
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Kurt Angle on January 08, 2003, 01:55:41 AM
What a beast.
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: mjps21983 on January 08, 2003, 02:10:45 AM
Talk yes, let us just hope it becomes the truth.
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Paul2 on January 08, 2003, 03:02:31 AM
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It will have the ability to do north of 1 trillion mathematical calculations per second, roughly 100 times more than a single Pentium 4 chip running at 2.5GHz.


it doesn\'t necessarily mean that the ps3 will be 250 Ghz.  2.5 Ghz Pentium 4 is a computer and it\'s a 64 bits computer, a 2.5 Ghz 64 bits computer will do less floating points than a 2 Ghz 256 bits video game console.  So I still stick with  my theory, ps3 will probably be around 3 - 5  Ghz and it still outperform 15 Ghz computer chip.
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: fastson on January 08, 2003, 03:13:57 AM
Dont know if this is true or not.

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SOURCES SAID that the architecture of the Sony Playstation3 is patently clear when you\'ve found the US patent that it filed September 26th last year.
A reliable source close to Sony\'s plans explained the way the Playstation3 works to the INQUIRER.

He said that the computers are made of cells, each one containing a CPU, which will probably be a PowerPC, and eight APUs (vectorial processors) each with 128K of memory.  

It will run at 4GHz, producing a not inconsiderable 256Gflops, with the cells connected to the central 64MB memory through a switched 1024 bit bus.

It\'s still not clear how many of these "cells" will be used in the Playstation3, but Sony reckoned some time ago it could be as many as one teraflops, probably making it a four cell architecture.


Optical links – perhaps even FireWire optical links – could be used to share computing power.

The Playstation3 architecture is similar to the Playstation 2 but with some improvements, such as a larger number of VPUs, each with more memory. The operating system, too, is much improved.

But Playstations will still be very complex to program well, although its just as well that Sony doesn\'t want to take the Microsoft DirectX route.

http://www.theinquirer.net/?article=7078
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Hawke on January 08, 2003, 06:38:27 AM
I hear it also double as a toaster.

Bah, who cares. The XBox 2 will be a million times more powerful and have bettar gamaes tahn eney otha gamae consal!!
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Echo on January 08, 2003, 07:01:18 AM
I stumbled upon this link in a thread on another forum.

http://inquirerinside.com/?article=7078

Is it the truth? For some reason I want to believe for some strange reason, but I also doubt it. Why? Because it\'s way too early to release details! But maybe it\'s true....


EDIT: Oh, it was already here...
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Evi on January 08, 2003, 09:35:08 PM
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Originally posted by Hawke
I hear it also double as a toaster.

Bah, who cares. The XBox 2 will be a million times more powerful and have bettar gamaes tahn eney otha gamae consal!!
Thanks for sharing that thought of yours...really...:rolleyes:
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Event Horizon on January 08, 2003, 10:10:10 PM
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It will run at 4GHz, producing a not inconsiderable 256Gflops, with the cells connected to the central 64MB memory through a switched 1024 bit bus.


Did they just say that it will have 64 MBs of RAM? I know I shouldn\'t be jumping to conclusions this early, but it just sounds crazy to me that would plan to have so little memory. Maybe this source isn\'t reliable or I just simply misread it.
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: theomen on January 08, 2003, 11:36:14 PM
I have mine on preorder  ;)
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Paul2 on January 09, 2003, 08:50:46 AM
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Originally posted by theomen
I have mine on preorder  ;)


lol.  :laughing:
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on January 09, 2003, 09:29:33 AM
My God... those data is stunning. 100 GB per sec... :o
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on January 09, 2003, 03:55:43 PM
Well, I wonder what it looks like... all the hints about what it can do, I want some pictures.  I feel later this year we will start getting glimpses of prototypes for PS3, and it will be right on target for an early 2005 release.
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Paul on January 09, 2003, 07:56:31 PM
WTF??? PS3 is still a complex beast that still difficult to code for???

Hmmm...I wonder if it\'ll be jaggies time with the first batch of games all over again..

anyway, I think the CPU speed will be anything from 4GHz to 10Ghz...there\'s no way they can make it run at 250Ghz without needing a 10Hp air conditioner running!!!
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Unicron! on January 11, 2003, 01:24:58 AM
Sony will be stupid if they dont try to find a solution to the development complexity
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: fastson on January 11, 2003, 06:45:35 AM
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Originally posted by Paul
WTF??? PS3 is still a complex beast that still difficult to code for???

Hmmm...I wonder if it\'ll be jaggies time with the first batch of games all over again..


Not likely..
This time they will launch with complete developer libraries.. Also developers should have learnt something by now developing for PS2 :)
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Event Horizon on January 11, 2003, 11:07:25 AM
There shouldn\'t be any jaggies in Ps3 games.
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: seven on January 11, 2003, 11:41:54 AM
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Did they just say that it will have 64 MBs of RAM? I know I shouldn\'t be jumping to conclusions this early, but it just sounds crazy to me that would plan to have so little memory. Maybe this source isn\'t reliable or I just simply misread it.


64 MB of eDRAM would be insane. PS2 has 4 MB in comparasment...
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on January 11, 2003, 06:59:11 PM
64 is SICK!
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Titan on January 12, 2003, 01:14:12 PM
I\'m gonna preorder a PS3 and camp outside of the store. Man, that\'s gonna kick ass :D
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: clowd on January 12, 2003, 01:27:00 PM
I\'ll just preorder 8 months ahead of time.

I can already feel the hype :D
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on January 12, 2003, 02:19:26 PM
well, I don\'t want this to be Hypestation 3...

lets wait for more details...
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Titan on January 12, 2003, 07:48:50 PM
I\'m planning on making a PS3 site when more info comes out. Hows PSX3Central sound to you guys :D
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on January 13, 2003, 04:27:44 AM
^^^^^

I\'m sure Bjorn has space already reserved for it...  I\'ll be the first to register.
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Unicron! on January 13, 2003, 07:25:32 AM
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Originally posted by Titan
I\'m planning on making a PS3 site when more info comes out. Hows PSX3Central sound to you guys :D


I miss the old PSX2Central days.Sniff.The anticipation,countless speculations and news,expectations.....OH GOD HOW MUCH I MISS EMM!!
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: shawn9990 on January 13, 2003, 09:06:08 PM
when will ps3 come out
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: SwifDi on January 13, 2003, 10:31:56 PM
Next month
Title: PlayStation 3 to get Yellowstone technology
Post by: Spencer on January 17, 2003, 03:53:12 PM
no, really. does n e 1 know when its comin out?