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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Event Horizon on January 13, 2003, 01:32:38 PM
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http://vancouver.indymedia.org/news/2003/01/26388_comment.php
I don\'t think he did it, but it sure is surprising that most of the comments seem to support the theory. The article is about a sign in Canada.
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I put these people in the same category as the lunatics that think we never landed on the moon. It\'s a shame they were allowed to put their sign up but I don\'t give them any credibility and a majority of the rest of the world doesn\'t either.
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riiiiiiiiiight
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i Can Dis-prove this theory in one
it sign says "Bush\'s Reichstag fire"
that would mean that Mr 1 brain Cell has the ever looked at a history book.
FFS
this is a man who would think that the burning down of the Reichstag, was a burn down at a local German Fast food shop.
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The poster is cool. The fact that something like that is such a big deal is sad.
Give me a billboard, then I\'ll make news :)
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Why would Bush attack our own country? Other countries should shut the f*ck up and worry about their own country.
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Originally posted by Titan
Why would Bush attack our own country? Other countries should shut the f*ck up and worry about their own country.
Well Judge\'n by the State of the EDUCATION of Geography in the USA, maybe he would attack the US if he thought that Europe was the Capital of Iraq.
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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I heard about this, Bush supposedly did it to be able to start shit with all the countries that don\'t like the U.S. Also, even though he denies it, a war is what he wants, and this war will end with a new weapon of mass destruction being deployed by the U.S. I also read about the moon landing...seems like pretty belieable proof.
Im not saying Bush did do it, or that he didn\'t. But, it\'s the U.S. anything can happen.
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That\'s not funny. Infact, that comment you made was very stupid.
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Originally posted by Titan
That\'s not funny. Infact, that comment you made was very stupid.
who are you refer\'n to ?
is it the guy that said...
Other countries should shut the f*ck up and worry about their own country.
j/k
;)
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To yours ooseven.
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Actually as an American teenager I can say that the kids around me know jack shit when it comes to geography. I however am an exception, but my fellow pupils knowledge only extends to that of the local 7-eleven around the corner.
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Come on You !
/me shakes fist at America
you have a Empire to Build
get studying them Maps and World Globes for children ages 3 to 4.
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No because we don\'t care about the world outside us. Glasgow, go f*ck yourselves!
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I know my basic geography and I\'ll need to know it in the military. I know my countries and a bit of capitals so don\'t say that all American\'s don\'t now geography.
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Originally posted by Titan
I know my basic geography and I\'ll need to know it in the military. I know my countries and a bit of capitals so don\'t say that all American\'s don\'t now geography.
Come on you have to know which places you SOULD go Gun Ho in and places were you should avoid (like Vapour dose with women)
Places you CAN go GUN-HO in
Places were you could go home with your @rse in a Sling
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Why would I start a war with China?
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Originally posted by Titan
Why would I start a war with China?
i don\'t know... do they have massive oil reserves ?
:rolleyes:
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I know you\'d like to see that. Have another reason to hate America :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by Titan
I know you\'d like to see that. Have another reason to hate America :rolleyes:
hmm you you would beleve that the Iraqi oil reserves would be used to help rebuild their nation after the fall (Capture or kill) of Saddam.
there is about as much chance of Nestle (the Chocolate company and no they are not American) NOT sueing Famine stricken Ethiopia for their Failed Crops duing the 2002 growing season.
you see my Anger of THE WEST\'s Diplomacy..
we all have Blood on our hands
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How many times does it have to be posted, WE ARE NOT AT WAR FOR OIL RESERVES!!! WE DON"T GIVE TWO SHITS ABOUT IRAQS OIL. We are also tentatively going to war with Korea. To my knowledge, they don\'t have oil. We are going to war because THERE IS A THREAT TO THE US AND WE NEED TO NEUTRALIZE THAT THREAT. But you are too thick headed to realize that and only look for reasons to hate the US more.
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I couldn\'t disagree more about the oil thing. Of course, I don\'t disagree with a lot of things.
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Titan, from all of the threads I\'ve read that have to do with this country, you\'re always, ALWAYS, being the person that thinks U.S. is full of angels. Yes, you love this country, yes your joining the army or whatever. But, damn you got to stop acting like you know every damn thing that goes on through the leader\'s of this countries heads.
Yeah, why do people think this way of the U.S.? Well, I don\'t know if its true, but I heard Osama worked for this government once, or maybe for all we know he still does. I don\'t hate the U.S. but I also dont think war is the only option. Iraq has said they have no nukes? Yeah, it\'s Iraq, you can\'t take their word for it. But, Bush is already sending troops getting ready for war. That shows how much Bush really doesn\'t want a war.
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
Titan, from all of the threads I\'ve read that have to do with this country, you\'re always, ALWAYS, being the person that thinks U.S. is full of angels. Yes, you love this country, yes your joining the army or whatever. But, damn you got to stop acting like you know every damn thing that goes on through the leader\'s of this countries heads.
I\'m sorry, I didn\'t know it was a rule to love ones country and defend it. I\'m sorry :rolleyes: And did I say I knew everything? I post only what I know. Your the one that posts mindless bullshit and say that your right. STFU.
Yeah, why do people think this way of the U.S.? Well, I don\'t know if its true, but I heard Osama worked for this government once, or maybe for all we know he still does. I don\'t hate the U.S. but I also dont think war is the only option. Iraq has said they have no nukes? Yeah, it\'s Iraq, you can\'t take their word for it. But, Bush is already sending troops getting ready for war. That shows how much Bush really doesn\'t want a war. [/B]
Osama was being trained to withstand the Soviets. We gave him weapons, training, and money. Thats it. Then he got power and decided to strike the US for our beliefs in Israel and not Palestine.
Bush is sending troops to Iraq doesn\'t mean we\'re going to war. They are GETTING READY. We have troops all over the world. It doens\'t mean we are gong to war with them. We are just sending them in the case of war. I know war isn\'t the only option but Saddam has already broken the UN treaties which could come clean and say what he\'s doing, but in the mean time, inspectors are searching to see if he has them.
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Originally posted by Titan
How many times does it have to be posted, WE ARE NOT AT WAR FOR OIL RESERVES!!! WE DON"T GIVE TWO SHITS ABOUT IRAQS OIL. We are also tentatively going to war with Korea. To my knowledge, they don\'t have oil. We are going to war because THERE IS A THREAT TO THE US AND WE NEED TO NEUTRALIZE THAT THREAT. But you are too thick headed to realize that and only look for reasons to hate the US more.
Yeah, im sure you know that for a fact.
Getting ready? Ready for what?
For them to strike first.......?
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Getting ready in the case of war. Just because we have troops in the Gulf, doens\'t mean we are gonna attack.
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Then why are they there?
Im sorry, but no gov. send in a bunch or troops just for decoration. Bush should just stop with the bull, and if he\'s going to attack to do it already and stop trying to look like something he isn\'t to the public.
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Well we aren\'t going to send thousands of troops over night, are we?
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Well no, I know that, I get what you mean, the point im trying to get across is that Bush keeps trying to prevent a war, but sending troops over there only gives Iraq another reason to attack, even if they had no plans to attack.
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First of all, we could vaporize Korea if they decide to play the nuke card. Korea is playing a game of blackmail and we should send a message that we will not play this game. I hope our leaders are strong enough to do so.
I think we (US) should make quick work of Iraq and send a message to the other parts of the axis of evil.
Ace
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SirMysiq, if war is avoided, they come home. Big ****ing deal. If war happens, they are already there and ready to mobilize. The war won\'t be long even if we did go. The Gulf War lasted only a couple months. We are more technologically andvanced now and have better weapons and this war might last shorter.
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Well, I think sending troops over there is just pressing Iraq to attack even if they don\'t want to. The way it looks now, I don\'t think a war will be avoided. If Iraq does have Nukes, this war maybe last forever....if we don\'t blow the earth up.
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Umm, the potential war can be avoided if Saddam decides to do the right thing. Lets place the blame where it belongs . .. in the lap of Saddam.
Ace
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SirMystiq, you suck.
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Go America! Whoo!
N e ways I think Bush is just getting ready incase Saddam initiates something.
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blind patriotism is amusing.
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I totally agree. Some people don\'t realize that you can still love your country, without blindly following it.
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As is zero patriotism.
Ace
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Originally posted by luckee
blind patriotism is amusing.
Yes indeedy.
Don\'t get me wrong, I think that Bush could\'ve handled the situation better without having his mind go so quickly to war. But I do love this country, and would like to see the threat that Saddam creates to be eliminated.
I\'m not blind. :sconf:
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I hope you\'re not calling ME blind.. :(
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I\'m not blind with patriotism, I\'m jsut standing up for my country.
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I never said you were. I was simply commenting on what luckee said :)
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I didn\'t say that you said you did. It was luckee that said I did.
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Originally posted by Ace
First of all, we could vaporize Korea if they decide to play the nuke card. Korea is playing a game of blackmail and we should send a message that we will not play this game. I hope our leaders are strong enough to do so.
The US is not supposed to have weapons of mass destruction either. So what would we vaporize them with? North Korea is NOT Iraq. They have the means to deploy nuclear weapons and are a legitimate threat to the US if pushed far enough. In a ground battle Korea has almost twice as many troops as the US. So we would be fighting against incredible odds in enemy territory(not a good thing).
If we were to use the weapons of mass destruction that we(don\'t *wink* *wink*) have. The rest of the world would come down on us a lot harder than they are coming down on Iraq.
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Originally posted by Gohan
The US is not supposed to have weapons of mass destruction either.
Hah, what in the world are you talking about?! It is widely known the 5 superpowers in the world all contain "weapons of mass destruction" or nukes as we call em. The countries that signed the nuclear non-proliferation treaty at the UN are legally allowed to own and contain nukes. Other countries have em but are violating the treaty.
The nuclear disarmament after the Cold War reduced many big weapons but they are still there and now even bigger than before. We may need them some day.
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Originally posted by Titan
Getting ready in the case of war. Just because we have troops in the Gulf, doens\'t mean we are gonna attack.
line From Chrimson Tide
"You Don\'t put a Rubber on unless your Going to F$%&"
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Originally posted by Titan
I didn\'t say that you said you did. It was luckee that said I did.
I never said you did either did I?
Feeling guilty?
A need to explain?
You probably fall into the ctaagory even though I didnt call anyone out specificaly.
Hel, you know better than most im not afraid to speak my mind.
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Originally posted by Gohan
The US is not supposed to have weapons of mass destruction either. So what would we vaporize them with? North Korea is NOT Iraq. They have the means to deploy nuclear weapons and are a legitimate threat to the US if pushed far enough. In a ground battle Korea has almost twice as many troops as the US. So we would be fighting against incredible odds in enemy territory(not a good thing).
If we were to use the weapons of mass destruction that we(don\'t *wink* *wink*) have. The rest of the world would come down on us a lot harder than they are coming down on Iraq.
If Korea decides to send South Korea or Japan to kindom come, who do you think the world will turn to to take care of the mess?
Thank your lucky stars we have what have in our arsenal.
Ace
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What is this round 10 of the Iraq debate?
1. Gohan you are wrong. The US is not supposed to have weapons of mass destruction? Where did you get that one from?
2. Sir Mystiq... shut up. You are the same guy who said "Correct me if I am wrong, but doesn\'t Iraq produce a lot of oil?"
3. I wouldn\'t call agreeing with the foreign policy of the US blind patriotism. Why are the anti Bush posters here so quick to label those of us who happen to think he is doing a decent job "blind patriots" and zealots?
I am sorry, some of us aren\'t quite as skeptical about our government and don\'t buy into the conspiracy theories that love to fly around this forum. Yet, if we disagree - we are blind. :rolleyes:
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Oh, and the Planet X is also coming - so why bother?
;)
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
Oh, and the Planet X is also coming - so why bother?
;)
Oh yeah forgot about that one. I think Unicorn is a member of the Council of Twelve and is secretly rebuilding his spaceport in Mesopotamia. ;)
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George Double-V. Bush seems to be a very common target among the conspiracy-theorists.
George Double-V. Bush and Tony Blair have a sexual relationship ( Tony is licking his ass all the time, but I still found this claim to be very funny :) )
George knew 9-11 was going to happen but did nothing to stop it. Some even claim that he was planning the attack with the Al-Qaeda. They say that they have serious "evidence". For example the "fact" that Bush donated millions to Al-Qaeda few years back. And why did CIA personnel supposedly visit Osama when he was injured / had a disease of some kind, in... ehm... Germany? Why didn\'t the air-force responce faster to the pin-pointed threats, the hijacked planes? They claim that he did all this to get himself a reason to start a war and \'thus make his own reputation rise. This is all an illusion, and we are puppets, they say. Indeed.
George along with the Bush Administration is planning to escape into secret underground facilities once Planet X passes. Yes, they know about it already, but aren\'t warning the people. Why? Due to fear of mass-panic and economic crash-down. The war-mongering with Irak is only a back-ground set to distract us from the real view. Or something. Yeah right.
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
George Double-V. Bush and Tony Blair have a sexual relationship ( Tony is licking his ass all the time, but I still found this claim to be very funny :) )
Tony is such a @rse licker, that when GWB gose to sit down... if he moves to quickly he will end up braking Tonys noise.
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Thanks to Tony Blair, our beloved George does not need toilet-paper.
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
Thanks to Tony Blair, our beloved George does not need toilet-paper.
it\'s not much good for us brits
if this keeps going the way it is going the UK will become the 51 State.
:eek:
ah well i supose we might get introduced to the NTSC system.
Bye bye PAL
Now that wouldn\'t be a Bad thing.
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But the fact that Terrorists take your country as their definite no. 2 target after USA is...
A very bad thing.
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
But the fact that Terrorists take your country as their definite no. 2 target after USA is...
A very bad thing.
You are just lucky nobody cares about Finland. ;)
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
You are just lucky nobody cares about Finland. ;)
no they are Number 3 on there list.
;)
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Originally posted by ooseven
if this keeps going the way it is going the UK will become the 51 State.
You wish!
Ace
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Originally posted by Ace
You wish!
Ace
what Frightened show up some ofyour lesser States ?
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I don\'t understand the question. English please!
Ace
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Originally posted by ooseven
what Frightened show up some ofyour lesser States ?
He must be drunk, but I think I understood it. ;)
It will definitely be better than Alabama.
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Only Mother Russia might find Finland a sexy catch...
We\'re pretty unhated because we:
a) are quite neutral. We are against terrorists and terrorism as much as we are against the war on IRAQ. But we keep our mouths shut.
b) are, simply, unimportant. Finland houses no significant buildings / factory-areas / banks.
c) are Finns. If the terrorist-organisations have as bad knowledge of the outer world as USA does, then they don\'t probably even know that we exist.
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
Only Mother Russia might find Finland a sexy catch...
We\'re pretty unhated because we:
a) are quite neutral. We are against terrorists and terrorism as much as we are against the war on IRAQ. But we keep our mouths shut.
b) are, simply, unimportant. Finland houses no significant buildings / factory-areas / banks.
c) are Finns. If the terrorist-organisations have as bad knowledge of the outer world as USA does, then they don\'t probably even know that we exist.
Correct me if I am wrong here, but wasn\'t Finland an Axis satellite during WW2? I believe they were allied with Germany... willingly.
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Correct me if I am wrong here, but wasn\'t Finland an Axis satellite during WW2? I believe they were allied with Germany... willingly.
It\'s a double-edged sword, really.
We were allied with Germany because otherwise Russia would have crushed us like a little bug. We didn\'t have many men left after the winter-onslaught, and \'thus we needed aid.
Nagh... I can\'t really explain it better.
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
He must be drunk, but I think I understood it. ;)
It will definitely be better than Alabama.
whoooohhhooooo
yup thats what i mean
if the UK was the 51 state we would be better than Alabama...
mind you i don\'t know if thats a insult or complement to my nation :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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Originally posted by ooseven
whoooohhhooooo
yup thats what i mean
if the UK was the 51 state we would be better than Alabama...
mind you i don\'t know if thats a insult or complement to my nation :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Hmmm the Scots and their inability to communicate in English versus Alabamians and their mobile homes... quite a toss up if you ask me... ;)
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God Damn it .. my beloved nation is in a trade of with a Bunch of Red necks
i bet they the ones who are more embarrassed.
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Originally posted by ooseven
God Damn it .. my beloved nation is in a trade of with a Bunch of Red necks
i bet they the ones who are more embarrassed.
Uh ok something about Scotland being compared to a bunch of rednecks... you even confused me on that one ooseven! :laughing:
Oh yeah don\'t be such a tit! ;)
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Uh ok something about Scotland being compared to a bunch of rednecks... you even confused me on that one ooseven! :laughing:
Oh yeah don\'t be such a tit! ;)
thats it!
us Scot\'s use the Word Tit
and the red necks use Titty\'s
other than that everything else is spookly the same.
even Haggis tastes like Squirrel
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Originally posted by ooseven
other than that everything else is spookly the same.
WTF ^^^^ :sconf:
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Originally posted by luckee
I never said you did either did I?
Feeling guilty?
A need to explain?
You probably fall into the ctaagory even though I didnt call anyone out specificaly.
Hel, you know better than most im not afraid to speak my mind.
You woulnd\'t have said it if you didnt mean to call someone it. And since me and Ace were posting at the time defending America, I assumed it was going to me and possibly him. I love how anti Bush people say we are "blind" with patriotism. I support Bush. I think he\'s a great president trying to defend his country and neutralize the threats to the world.
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It was a general blanket statement I made. Sure I think few of you guys fall into that catagory, but I didnt specifically call it.
I think bush is an idiot plain and simple, but that doesnt necessarily make me antibush. Its really too soon and with far to many variables to blame him for many of the things he does get blamed for before I make my mind up.
And yes..Ill take brits and scots wayyyy b4 I accept our rednecks.
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Originally posted by Titan
You woulnd\'t have said it if you didnt mean to call someone it. And since me and Ace were posting at the time defending America, I assumed it was going to me and possibly him. I love how anti Bush people say we are "blind" with patriotism. I support Bush. I think he\'s a great president trying to defend his country and neutralize the threats to the world.
To add to the controversy....JFK would of been a good president to if the U.S. government wouln\'t have sent some one to kill him.
You\'re not defending America, you\'re defending Bush. Bush is only trying to defend his ego. America is one of the richest powerful countries, but America isn\'t exactly the greatest.
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Just curious where you guys learn to hate America. Is it the schools?
Ace
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Personally, I love this country. Just because im not kissing Bush\'s ass doesn\'t mean I don\'t. I just don\'t like pretending and thinking that this country rules all, b/c it doesn\'t. I also don\'t like people that think, just because this is U.S. other countries should do what we do. That and I have some white nerdy, X-files loving friends, don\'t take it personally, but they bring books about things like this. In one of the books, I read (YES I READ!!) about how mostly all the countries that hate the U.S. hate it, well because U.S. tries to play the role of the good guys to much.
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One of the richest powerful countries happens to have the stupiest president ever and imperialistic policies trying to forward them through law-like pathways and lies.
One of the most powerfull countries which is not telling the complete truth to its citizens and cover up their true motives through diplomacy, moral-sounding and nationalistical speeches.
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I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU. That\'s exactly what I think, except, you\'re smarter and made it sound more better.
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Originally posted by Ace
Just curious where you guys learn to hate America. Is it the schools?
Ace
The stuff taught in schools, at least around here, is pretty damn patriotic. Some people just take a look at the stuff happening, and decide for themselves that it\'s bad.
Basically, what it comes down to is when you rule a country the size of America, you\'re gonna piss someone out there off no matter what you do. Do I agree with what the current government is doing? No, not at all. But if the government were the way I wanted it, it would piss off plenty of other people. No matter what you do, someone is complaining.
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I agree that there will never be one hundred percent agreement.
What I do not understand is the ease and willingness not to believe our Commander-in-Chief over a psychotic dictator.
Ace
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Originally posted by Ace
I agree that there will never be one hundred percent agreement.
What I do not understand is the ease and willingness not to believe our Commander-in-Chief over a psychotic dictator.
Ace
And who told u your Commander-in-Chief is any better than he is.
BTW:I thought there was dictatorship in Turkey too.:rolleyes:.Oops also forgot Israel
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Give me just one instance when my President has used chemical weapons against US citizens.
Ace
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^^^
YOU DID IT AGAIN!!!
WORD.
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That was meant to unicorns post.
Now to A\'s question: NEVER!
But, what business does the U.S. have in their problems?
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Originally posted by Ace
Give me just one instance when my President has used chemical weapons against US citizens.
Ace
Ofcourse u are the US citizen.Doing it for non-US residents is ok.
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SirMystiq, I know that wasn\'t meant for me. :)
Ace
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OK then, what country have we used chemical weapons on in the past?
Ace
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Originally posted by Ace
SirMystiq, I know that wasn\'t meant for me. :)
Ace
You\'re still cool though.
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Originally posted by Ace
I agree that there will never be one hundred percent agreement.
What I do not understand is the ease and willingness not to believe our Commander-in-Chief over a psychotic dictator.
Ace
Personally, my belief that Iraq does not have weapons of mass destruction does not stem from the words of Saddam. It\'s not a question of trusting him more.
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Where is the info that makes you believe this?
Ace
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Personally, following the principles of this country, I would like to think that someone is innocent until proven guilty. UN inspections have turned up nothing. *shrug*
Oh, and beyond that, a person whom I\'m sure your will question the credibility of, but that I trust more than Bush, Scott Ritter, has influenced my opinions on the subject somewhat. I\'ve talked to him personally several times. He lives a couple of blocks from where I do, in Delmar NY.
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Scott Ritter is a questionable source! (http://www.aim.org/publications/media_monitor/2002/09/12.html)
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You and that article can say what you will. I know what I believe though.
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/me loves how America is so hated despite the fact that everyone and their mother tries to get her.e
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There is always a difference between loving and respecting the country one is from, and trying to excuse them for everything they do because of that love.
That kind of mindless devotion is what leads to so many atrocities commited in this world.
If your child that you loved, killed another child for no true reason, would you try to abdicate him of all wrong doing, or admit that what he did was wrong even though you still love him?
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Ace, we have used chemical weapons many times in our past.
We used them on Native Americans to depopulate them. We also used them in vietnam to destroy all the forests, which also killed countless vietnamease AND americans.
We have also used chemical and biological weapons on our own population to test the results.
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Originally posted by Faithdies
We have also used chemical and biological weapons on our own population to test the results.
When did this happen? :confused:
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Originally posted by r4nd0m
When did this happen? :confused:
McDonalds.
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Originally posted by Green Meanie
McDonalds.
Now that\'s funny! :laughing:
We also used two nukes.
I\'ll give that there has been testing of chemicals on soldiers but when was the last time one of our Presidents decided to gas . . . lets say . . . California because he did not like the potential problem that state might bring to him? Wait, that might be a good thing. ;)
Ace
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Originally posted by Ace
Now that\'s funny! :laughing:
We also used two nukes.
I\'ll give that there has been testing of chemicals on soldiers but when was the last time one of our Presidents decided to gas . . . lets say . . . California because he did not like the potential problem that state might bring to him? Wait, that might be a good thing. ;)
Ace
no but George W Bush pushed through more Death row\'er at the start of his admin, then any previous President desptie the fact that most of the were in the process of having their cases reviewd over the lack of or state of evidence.
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Originally posted by Ace
OK then, what country have we used chemical weapons on in the past?
Ace
I hope the Gulf war tells u something.Oh forgot the bombing in Yugoslavia 3 years ago.The land is till polluted with uranium.
Doesnt have to do necessarilly with chemical weapons.
Ofcourse NATO finds the right excuse for the attacks.
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I can hold up to 4 hair dryers in this stand.
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:sconf:huh? :confused:
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Originally posted by ooseven
no but George W Bush pushed through more Death row\'er at the start of his admin, then any previous President desptie the fact that most of the were in the process of having their cases reviewd over the lack of or state of evidence.
ooseven you can\'t compare capital punishment with weapons of mass destruction.
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Of course he can. That\'s how he can justify his crazy thoughts on the subject. :)
Ace
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No weapons of mass destruction have been found yet
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Originally posted by Faithdies
Ace, we have used chemical weapons many times in our past.
We used them on Native Americans to depopulate them.
Really? Thats funny, chemical weapons didn\'t come about until World War I. Why don\'t you get the facts straight as well, Native Americans were depopulated by chemical weapons, rather it was disease that decimated them and it was from natural causes - not a weapon.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
No weapons of mass destruction have been found yet
Unicorn what proof do you need, some western city or Tel Aviv glowing in the dark before you might acknowlege he may have weapons of mass destruction? :rolleyes:
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It is very simple. When the inspectors were thrown out of the country a few years ago they had documented weapons that were supposed to be destroyed. Iraq has not explained where they are, and if and how they destroyed them. Which we know they have not!
Ace
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The major problem I have with Dubbya is that he seems to WANT a war, it doesn\'t seem to matter who with, Afganistan, Iraq, maybe even North Korea, any excuse.
He\'s a brainless warmongering dolt and it surprises me that he\'s lasted as long as he has, most people with his lack of IQ die in really stupid accidents before they amount to anything.
He just needs to back the f*ck off because at this rate he\'ll just get himself assasinated.
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Originally posted by Green Meanie
The major problem I have with Dubbya is that he seems to WANT a war, it doesn\'t seem to matter who with, Afganistan, Iraq, maybe even North Korea, any excuse.
He\'s a brainless warmongering dolt and it surprises me that he\'s lasted as long as he has, most people with his lack of IQ die in really stupid accidents before they amount to anything.
He just needs to back the f*ck off because at this rate he\'ll just get himself assasinated.
In case you haven\'t heard, the US was attacked... not the other way around. As for Bush\'s IQ... in reality it is probably much higher than yours or any of ours. If you are going to post such rabid opinions you might want to back them up with some facts.
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I\'ll rest my case here.
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Originally posted by Green Meanie
I\'ll rest my case here.
Thats a good substitute for an IQ test... please... like you haven\'t done something stupid in your life? You are just fortunate enough not to have camera\'s following you everywhere.
There are many modern day photographs of presidents doing not so flattering things. If this is your only defense for someones IQ, you really should give it a rest. There is nothing wrong with having an opinion about someone, but don\'t try and pass it off as a fact. :rolleyes:
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What scares me is that America is quite possibly the hardest nation on this planet and I worry that the man in charge is totally disconnected from the world, the inability to name countries and world leaders from non English speaking nations was the thing that really worried me to start with. He doesn\'t fill me with confidence when he talks to the world in press conferences either, he just seems like a total moron living in his fathers shadow.
Oh well, if he levels Iraq he\'s proved himself to the old man at least.
Or he could half-level Iraq and then piss off again, kinda like what happened last time.
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Originally posted by Green Meanie
What scares me is that America is quite possibly the hardest nation on this planet and I worry that the man in charge is totally disconnected from the world, the inability to name countries and world leaders from non English speaking nations was the thing that really worried me to start with. He doesn\'t fill me with confidence when he talks to the world in press conferences either, he just seems like a total moron living in his fathers shadow.
Oh well, if he levels Iraq he\'s proved himself to the old man at least.
Or he could half-level Iraq and then piss off again, kinda like what happened last time.
I didn\'t know a prerequisite for being President of the United States was being able to name every country and its leader. If you are going to use that as a bench mark, I think it would be interesting to see how Putin would do or the leader of China.
Its easy from a European point of view to name countries and their leaders because of the relationship between any one country and the rest of Europe, not to mention the proximity to one another.
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All I\'m saying is that I don\'t trust this man to make a rational decision regarding war because he already seems set on that path.
If one day a picture is printed in newspapers of an Iraqi nuke then yes, kill kill kill. But the job needs to be done properly instead of half-arseing around with planes for a while before leaving.
I can see the same happening as before, leaving a dictator in power to torture and maim his civillians for another long 10 years.
If I don\'t see proof of these WMD\'s then it\'s a hollow war for bollock all reason, at the moment the feeling I have (if I was to put it into words) is \'would you leave a wolf to guard a field of sheep?\'.
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Thats cool Green, you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that. What pisses me off are when people try and pass their opinion off as fact. One argument on another forum that I was recently involved in, a woman kept insisting that voters were kept away from the polls in Florida during the 2000 election. I asked her to name a source and the best she could come up with was her mothers, brother in-laws uncle told her... :rolleyes:
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Here\'s another one for ya
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Opinion is what makes the world such an interesting place.
Edit: You have to admit though, the vote count system is bloody silly!
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I\'m not very confident in Bush either, but I think he has surrounded himself with some reasonably competent people to help him out in his decision making.
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
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I can hold up to 4 hair dryers in this stand.
bob
Why do you own 4 hair dryers ?
Do you dry your arm pits and privates at the same time as the hair on your head ?
:confused: :confused: :(
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Originally posted by Unicron!
No weapons of mass destruction have been found yet
they were there in the Gulf War. Did they just disappear? They just arent accounted for. War is inevitable.
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Peace is a beatufull thing but do you teach peace to a Lion? NO and why is that because the Lion only knows if your stronger and more powerfull than him then you may own him.
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Good point.
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Really? Thats funny, chemical weapons didn\'t come about until World War I. Why don\'t you get the facts straight as well, Native Americans were depopulated by chemical weapons, rather it was disease that decimated them and it was from natural causes - not a weapon.
In the middle ages, chemical weapons were used. They hurled dead bodies contaminated with the Plague into enemy territories. Although the soldiers that were launching them also probably got sick. Not smart but it did work :) They also launched dead cows and shit to make the livestock sick and die thus they starve. Must suck to be the person that has to load the catapult though :D
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Originally posted by square_marker
they were there in the Gulf War. Did they just disappear? They just arent accounted for. War is inevitable.
I wonder why the US decided NOW to prevent any thread of weapons of mass destruction.
I also wonder how did those uneducated, less civilized mullahs got the technology to create them:rolleyes:.
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Originally posted by Unicron!
I wonder why the US decided NOW to prevent any thread of weapons of mass destruction.
9/11
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WOW!!!THE TALIBANS ARE IN IRAQ??
First of all STARTING A WAR AGAINST IRAQ AWAIKENS EVEN MORE ISLAMISTIC RIOTS IN OTHER ARABIAN COUNTRIES!!!!
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Oh forgot to add.....If nothing happened in 9/11 I guess those supposed "weapons of mass destruction" wouldnt have been a thread.
The incident with the twin towers was just a chance for a great excuse.
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You asked why now and I gave you answer. If I have to spell out how Iraq could sell or utilize the weapons I give up. We can go around in circles for a long time. I will agree to disagree with you.
Ace
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The United States gave Native Americans blankets they knew to be infested with smallpox. I guess that would be a biological weapon. Crude, but a weapon nonetheless. Before you attack me, do some research.
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^^^
I knew I read that some where.
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Originally posted by Faithdies
The United States gave Native Americans blankets they knew to be infested with smallpox. I guess that would be a biological weapon. Crude, but a weapon nonetheless. Before you attack me, do some research.
WRONG!
It was not the United States that gave out blankets infected with smallpox, rather the British in 1763. As you can read here on a biased Native American site:
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/1/indian1.htm
Secondly, the Spanish killed more Native Americans than anyone through smallpox. You can also read that on the link above. Not that the United States is guilt free in regards to matters like this, I just find it interesting you chose to lay the entire blame on the US.
Sir Mystiq... shut up. I am so sick of seeing "WORD" and "^^^^^^^" in all of your posts on this topic. Generate some facts and discuss them like most other people do when debating on topics like this.
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That\'s true Faithdies. Native Americans still aren\'t happy on how they were treated. But that was ages ago. We wouldn\'t think of doing that again....or would we. Iraq should fear their blankets.
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
WRONG!
It was not the United States that gave out blankets infected with smallpox, rather the British in 1763. As you can read here on a biased Native American site:
http://www.wealth4freedom.com/truth/1/indian1.htm
Secondly, the Spanish killed more Native Americans than anyone through smallpox. You can also read that on the link above. Not that the United States is guilt free in regards to matters like this, I just find it interesting you chose to lay the entire blame on the US.
Sir Mystiq... shut up. I am so sick of seeing "WORD" and "I knew I read that somewhere" in all of your posts on this topic. Generate some facts and discuss them like most other people do when debating on topics like this.
KoOl.
I remember I read that in my history book.
Giga....GTH. I\'m so sick of you always replying with comments like that. "Shut up", "come up with facts". You don\'t know that for a fact, Where you there? Did someone travel back in time to prove it? NO. You have no idea what happened back then, nobody does, all we got is records and documents that tell us that. How do we know if those documents are true? Besides, aren\'t the Spanish the original Americans, the one\'s that conquered this land?.
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Umm, that site is a source. When you type up a history report, you use sources. Can you prove whats in your paper? According to you no. You rely on sources and Giga\'s source is credible.
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Nope, I can\'t prove whats on my paper. But, thats not the point of the history report. A history report is just to inform of what "happened" and the "facts". I know what a source is, yes that\'s a source. But, why is it so credible? What makes it a fact? Is it because a bunch of people that call themselves "historians" said it is?
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According to you we would all have to see an historic moment in history to believe it happened.
You need to read and listen to many different sources to decide what is true and what is not true.
Ace
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So the Civil War wasn\'t real because I can\'t "prove" it happened.
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I get you Ace. If all the people where the "see to believe type" then we wouln\'t have any idea where we came from, why we are here.
I love history, it\'s one of my favorite classes. I like reading about things that once were. But, nobody can really know for a fact. Thousands of years from now, people might look back at the things that are going on now and completely change the story. "Yeah, the U.S. sent some guy named Bush to destroy Afghanistan\'s buildings" Yeah, that\'s why we leave records. But, how do we know what records might be discoreved?
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Originally posted by Titan
So the Civil War wasn\'t real because I can\'t "prove" it happened.
No, that\'s different. The Civil War was a big thing, there is proof that it happened, not just a bunch of letters that some guy we know nothing about left behind. Im talking about specific things, like, who shot first at the battle of Gettysburg?.
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I always liked history in school as well. One thing I would be weary about is using your school history book as absolute fact. One could argue that most school history books are somewhat skewed. If you like history buy some books or hit the library.
Ace
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My history books suck. There is such debate between different texts.
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Im with you Ace. Sometimes, I would be reading out of my history books, and find out that they leave some of the most important facts. Then I get in the Net, and find out so many things that are so interesting that they just completely left out. I guess that\'s why they\'re the cheapest books the schools can afford.
About hitting the library, I got WW1, WW2, and the Civil War DVD collection. :nerd: I haven\'t watched them in a long time though. Who needs books when you got DVD players?! :eyemouth:
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
KoOl.
I remember I read that in my history book.
Giga....GTH. I\'m so sick of you always replying with comments like that. "Shut up", "come up with facts". You don\'t know that for a fact, Where you there? Did someone travel back in time to prove it? NO. You have no idea what happened back then, nobody does, all we got is records and documents that tell us that. How do we know if those documents are true? Besides, aren\'t the Spanish the original Americans, the one\'s that conquered this land?.
After reading the rest of your crap posts on this topic... I can say without a doubt you are definitely one of the more unintelligent members. Stick to the made up girlfriend posts and leave the intelligent debates to the rest of us who are able to form opinions and back them them up.
Oh and as for your Spanish comment, I will just chalk it up to you being pissed off because I pointed out they killed more Native Americans than any other group... "Spanish the original Americans" :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
About hitting the library, I got WW1, WW2, and the Civil War DVD collection. :nerd: I haven\'t watched them in a long time though. Who needs books when you got DVD players?! :eyemouth:
Case in point. You would rather watch a DVD than read a book. Got news for your Mr. Bling Bling... books are ten times more informative than any DVD can be. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Case in point. You would rather watch a DVD than read a book. Got news for your Mr. Bling Bling... books are ten times more informative than any DVD can be. :rolleyes:
[Dr evil voice]
i thought we where in the World Conflict Business and not the Bling Bling business .
[/Dr Evil voice]
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
In case you haven\'t heard, the US was attacked... not the other way around. As for Bush\'s IQ... in reality it is probably much higher than yours or any of ours. If you are going to post such rabid opinions you might want to back them up with some facts.
funny...It wasnt Iraq or N. Korea that attacked us, yet he wants to fight them both.
Also odd in how we went to war with afghanistan, yet they didnt attack us.
Also, before you waste time typing. I am well aware of the fact that the individuals behind our attacks were in "ca\'hoots" with their government deeper than our oceans, but the fact remains.
It is my opinion that Bush only wants a war with ANYONE just so he can secure a re-election since his previous victory was slim AND tainted. No better way to win an election than a war.
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Thats cool Green, you are entitled to your opinion and I respect that. What pisses me off are when people try and pass their opinion off as fact. One argument on another forum that I was recently involved in, a woman kept insisting that voters were kept away from the polls in Florida during the 2000 election. I asked her to name a source and the best she could come up with was her mothers, brother in-laws uncle told her... :rolleyes:
It was widely acknowledged in florida during that election as well during some recent elections including the governor seat.
There is some foul shit going on down here and each side is ready to point fingers, but no one wants to fix it. They just want to fight with each other.
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No better way to win an election than a war.
Tell his dad that!
Also odd in how we went to war with afghanistan, yet they didnt attack us.
And where did the Taliban reside?
Ace
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Originally posted by Ace
Tell his dad that!
And where did the Taliban reside?
Ace
Yea, it didnt work out to well for dummy number one. Dummy number two has been able to rally the general public pretty well though.
Thats no excuse. Send elite squads in, dont bomb an entire country.
Bad analogy time......
When your motor is leaking oil, do you replace a seal or the entire motor?
When your house is dirty, do you buy a new one or clean up?
When an asian man beats you up, do you think all asians are bad or just that particular guy?
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Call him a dummy. It is very typical of the left to resort to name calling when no point can be made.
Ace
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Is it me or this topic just one big circular argument?
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Originally posted by Ace
Call him a dummy. It is very typical of the left to resort to name calling when no point can be made.
Ace
I think dummy\'s a good word, not entirely brainless and with an innocent \'I haven\'t got a clue, Colin Powell told me to do it\' kind of feel.
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One fault..Im not left.
My opinion is that dad is a dummy and Im almost certain IMO that son is one as well. Just like the 3rd dolt running FL.
Besides my opinions..wanna get back to the taliban thing?
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Is it me or this topic just one big circular argument?
of course, just like religion topics. politics and religion tend to do these things :)
Specially when you have a big collection of stubborn, blind, moronic, sarcastic, sadistic, and smug individuals posting.
Its bound to happen. Im just happy untill the insults on each other begin to fly.
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Besides my opinions..wanna get back to the taliban thing?
I answered the Taliban thing.
Ace
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Originally posted by Ace
I answered the Taliban thing.
Ace
actually no, you didnt respond to my last response on that issue.
"Call him a dummy. It is very typical of the left to resort to name calling when no point can be made.
^^thats all you said^^ :)
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Yes, this subject is going nowhere. We ARE going to war because GW wants to, nothing we can do about it.
The lefties will still want to talk and the righties will still want to kill anything that moves with an M16 and those in the middle will still be higher than the others as they have a nice comfy fence to sit on.
May as well just ride it and wait for the Midnight press announcement, then we can talk about friendly fire incidents and depleted uranium rounds until we\'re blue in the face from Gulf War syndrome.
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Originally posted by Ace
You asked why now and I gave you answer. If I have to spell out how Iraq could sell or utilize the weapons I give up. We can go around in circles for a long time. I will agree to disagree with you.
Ace
U didnt get what I was trying to say.
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green meanie: I like you more and more everyday( not in the h0m0 way either)
You\'ve probably hit the nail on the head for our next "new" 10 page arguement.
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Originally posted by Ace
And where did the Taliban reside?
Ace
I answered your question with a question. :)
Ace
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I\'m getting a headache!
Ace
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Why are some on here so opposed in preventing a worse situation down the road. The sit and do nothing policy will not work - as is the case with North Korea. I am sorry, I don\'t feel that we should give N. Korea anything in exchange for their cooperation. I also think N. Korea is under the illusion that they are like the former USSR.
People need to look at the long range consequences of letting these piss ant little countries develop nuclear weapons. If we give in to Korea and let Iraq continue to develop weapons we are going to be held hostage by any other country that comes along and decides to start a nuclear program.
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Originally posted by Ace
I answered your question with a question. :)
Ace
I was waiting on a response to my solution instead of bombing innocents.
Thats what I meant.
By bombing afghan, we are no better than the terrorists we speak out against.
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We, the US, do everything we can do to keep from hitting innocents. I am sure you would agree the same can not be said about the parties in question.
I don\'t believe there was wholesale bombing in Afghanistan.
War=Killing people and breaking things. The one who does it best wins.
Ace
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Why are some on here so opposed in preventing a worse situation down the road. The sit and do nothing policy will not work - as is the case with North Korea. I am sorry, I don\'t feel that we should give N. Korea anything in exchange for their cooperation. I also think N. Korea is under the illusion that they are like the former USSR.
People need to look at the long range consequences of letting these piss ant little countries develop nuclear weapons. If we give in to Korea and let Iraq continue to develop weapons we are going to be held hostage by any other country that comes along and decides to start a nuclear program.
WHich is why sniper missions are the answer IMO. Did wonders to get rid of JFK :D
Remember Noriega? We didnt bomb them much if at all, but we still got the man. Course the circumstances and reasons were different, but Im not seeing why the same scenario cant be replayed.
If we are justified to go and bomb whom ever we like for whatever reasons we like. Then the terrorists were just as justified.
I just hate the "its ok as long as we do it" mentality the US tends to have.
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Originally posted by Ace
We, the US, do everything we can do to keep from hitting innocents. I am sure you would agree the same can not be said about the parties in question.
I don\'t believe there was wholesale bombing in Afghanistan.
War=Killing people and breaking things. The one who does it best wins.
Ace
No, thats only what they release. Speaking a family with deep roots in all branches. The soldiers tend to do what ever they want in terms of taking over areas..buildings, strongholds and air raids.
We always WANT to hit certain targets, but often we hit those as well as many others.
You are correct, war is war and all is fair, but when you claim to be the fairest and the best it kinda puts another light on the subject IMO.
I think I would be much more at ease if the government and its citizens would just accept what we are instead of pretending to be otherwise.
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Originally posted by luckee
WHich is why sniper missions are the answer IMO. Did wonders to get rid of JFK :D
Remember Noriega? We didnt bomb them much if at all, but we still got the man. Course the circumstances and reasons were different, but Im not seeing why the same scenario cant be replayed.
If we are justified to go and bomb whom ever we like for whatever reasons we like. Then the terrorists were just as justified.
I just hate the "its ok as long as we do it" mentality the US tends to have.
You have a valid question Luckee, but it seems Saddam is more elusive than was originally thought.
On the subject of Afghanistan, there were not that many civilian casualties. No one has been bombed yet, and if the bombing does start, Iraq can only blame themselves for innocent loss of life. By purchasing jammers and building his military compounds in the middle of civilian populations is in effect using human shields.
Do you think that if the Iraqi\'s were attacking and we were hiding behind civilians that they would give that any consideration? Not that two wrongs make a right, but the point I am trying to make here is that Saddam knows exactly what he is doing and what our overall policy is of trying to limit the casualties of non combatents. By him using people as shields shows what little value he has for human life.
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What I don\'t like is how some Americans so easily forget.
9/11 was not that long ago yet here we are discussing why we had to bomb Afghanistan and the Taliban.
Iraq has a problem because of it\'s refusal to follow UN resolutions. Even that limp spine Blix is starting to get fed up with Saddam and the lies.
Ace
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Originally posted by Ace
What I don\'t like is how some Americans so easily forget.
9/11 was not that long ago yet here we are discussing why we had to bomb Afghanistan and the Taliban.
Iraq has a problem because of it\'s refusal to follow UN resolutions. Even that limp spine Blix is starting to get fed up with Saddam and the lies.
Ace
I agree... how easily a lot of Americans forget 9/11. Is it going to take the eradication of a US city for people to stop being so ambivilent towards what must be done? The Bush administration is looking at the long term effects of the Iraqi non compliance issue and taking action now will be a much smaller price than taking action a decade from now.
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
You have a valid question Luckee, but it seems Saddam is more elusive than was originally thought.
On the subject of Afghanistan, there were not that many civilian casualties. No one has been bombed yet, and if the bombing does start, Iraq can only blame themselves for innocent loss of life. By purchasing jammers and building his military compounds in the middle of civilian populations is in effect using human shields.
Do you think that if the Iraqi\'s were attacking and we were hiding behind civilians that they would give that any consideration? Not that two wrongs make a right, but the point I am trying to make here is that Saddam knows exactly what he is doing and what our overall policy is of trying to limit the casualties of non combatents. By him using people as shields shows what little value he has for human life.
I think that may be an excuse by our media/government. Saddam is often seen in public and on TV.
Not many that were reported, but think of all of the ones that dont get out. The media and government tends to keep their soldier count up and ours down, along with their civilian count.
I also do not agree with how they place military installations amongst the civilians. I tend to dismiss that when I talk about civilian casualties. In those cases, I can certainly agree that we have no choice.
Always remember in our disagreements in this. I am not nor ever saying saddam shouldnt be killed. Im just not eager to see dummy number2 with soldiers placed ALL over the world fighting wars on multiple fronts. Saddam should be killed ASAP, but not by our war. We saw how well that worked last time. He knew they were at war so he hid. If we stop threatening with war, he will become more comfortable over time. Thats when we could eliminate him. I dont think it would be that hard, it would just mean more shit the government has to wiggle out of as if they are new to it :)
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Hey luckee,
I nominate you to take him out. :) J/k
Ace
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Guys, it happens everyday all over the world. It is no more sad just b/c it happend to us. Seems that people only value american lives as if the human race is below the american human race.
It is far from forgotten, but most of us move on in life. I was very lucky not to have anyone I know killed, but I did have a dear friend injured that day.
Even if I knew no on involved and it happend in europe, it would still be sad, and I would disagree with the methods some want to use.
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Originally posted by Ace
Hey luckee,
I nominate you to take him out. :) J/k
Ace
Hehe I nominate the three of us. I have my sniper suit all ready to go, but I don\'t think my paintball gun will be too lethal. :laughing:
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Originally posted by Ace
Hey luckee,
I nominate you to take him out. :) J/k
Ace
If I had the skillz, resources, and man power, I would be the first!!
You can man the red button if you want. Giga can have the navy ;)
damn I miss my DSL :(
*edit* I own pages 7 AND 8 :D
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Here\'s my two cents on this whole situation. First off, I don\'t care if anyone agree\'s or disagree\'s. Its my opinion and I am entitled to that , as are those who disagree with me.
- George W. Bush is a damn idiot. I have always said this.
- This war on Iraq will probably not be avoided , no matter what. UN Inspectors say there are no signs of mass destruction yet but also hint that it could take a year for a full disclousure and tests. Is Bush goin\' to wait? No, he isn\'t. Is he goin\' to listen to the UN Inspectors? No, he isn\'t. He has wanted this war for awhile now and he most likely won\'t back down.
- I find it funny that all you people and what not are all for him disarming Iraq, but yet we are allowed the same weapons we are constantly protesting against. Not to mention, Korea makes the weapons, out in the open, in front of us and yet nothing is done. Does no one see the contradiction? Oh wait, it\'s because Korea could probably kick our ass and we could gain a certain something from a war on Iraq.
- I don\'t present any of this as fact. I present this as my opinion .
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Here\'s my two cents on this whole situation. First off, I don\'t care if anyone agree\'s or disagree\'s. Its my opinion and I am entitled to that , as are those who disagree with me.
- George W. Bush is a damn idiot. I have always said this.
- This war on Iraq will probably not be avoided , no matter what. UN Inspectors say there are no signs of mass destruction yet but also hint that it could take a year for a full disclousure and tests. Is Bush goin\' to wait? No, he isn\'t. Is he goin\' to listen to the UN Inspectors? No, he isn\'t. He has wanted this war for awhile now and he most likely won\'t back down.
- I find it funny that all you people and what not are all for him disarming Iraq, but yet we are allowed the same weapons we are constantly protesting against. Not to mention, Korea makes the weapons, out in the open, in front of us and yet nothing is done. Does no one see the contradiction? Oh wait, it\'s because Korea could probably kick our ass and we could gain a certain something from a war on Iraq.
- I don\'t present any of this as fact. I present this as my opinion .
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Actually Blix is getting fed up with the Iraqs lies and has warned Iraq to either fess up or face war. Personally I don\'t think the inspectors will find anything because Saddam has had years to prepare for this and hide everything. God knows where he has hid it and even after he is gone I doubt we will actually see materials unless someone accidently finds it.
This situation in N. Korea isn\'t that old and yes things are being done to try and figure out how to handle it. Korea couldn\'t kick our ass... they know this as well. The problem with handling this is that Korea already has a nuke or two and it makes it a much more delicate situation. Why do you think Bush put them on his Axis of Evil list almost a year ago? They knew what the Koreans had up their sleeve.
This also goes back to the point that US government doesn\'t and shouldn\'t tell the public everything until the time is right.
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Hmmmm! (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,75748,00.html)
Ace
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Originally posted by Ace
Hmmmm! (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,75748,00.html)
Ace
*looks around for Unicron*
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I\'m sure these empty warheads are being used for humanitarian purposes.
Or,
They are empty ya know!
Ace
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OR
The accusation will be made that they were planted.
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
After reading the rest of your crap posts on this topic... I can say without a doubt you are definitely one of the more unintelligent members. Stick to the made up girlfriend posts and leave the intelligent debates to the rest of us who are able to form opinions and back them them up.
Oh and as for your Spanish comment, I will just chalk it up to you being pissed off because I pointed out they killed more Native Americans than any other group... "Spanish the original Americans" :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
My crap post are only crap only because you take them that way. I really don\'t understand why you keep considering yourself intellegent. What you call back up, is something somebody else said, and that somebody probably got it from somebody else and so on. If by backing things up you mean posting links to other sites that claim something is true, then that isn\'t very reliable. You have no right to call me unintelligent. I could call you an old, stupid, coinceited sob, but why should I? I don\'t have to call you stupid or unintelligent in order to make others think bad or believe it.
I form my opinions, all I posted were opinions, I don\'t give a damn if you don\'t like them or not. Mr. Bling-Bling, you can call me that all you want, I really don\'t give a damn, Vid calls me that all the time I don\'t mind.
The Spanish were one of the first settlers in this country. So yeah they\'re basically the first Americans. They settled in florida in St. Augustin(sp) and another place I can\'t remember. So now Im going to sit back and wait until you post again, probably with the same manner you always post when directing to me, alright see ya Mr. Big Head.
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Say, what ever happened to Dick Cheney? I think he\'s dead and the government isn\'t releasing it. I haven\'t heard shit about him since last September.