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Title: Coup in Iraq???? Fingers crossed
Post by: videoholic on January 17, 2003, 07:00:20 AM

http://www.time.com/time/world/article/0,8599,408784,00.html

Great story about the Saudi\'s finally pushing for a coup....

"Convinced that President Bush is serious about invading Iraq, Arab leaders hope to avoid war by orchestrating a coup in Baghdad. Well-placed sources have told TIME that Saudi Arabia is vigorously pursuing a concrete plan to encourage Iraqi generals to overthrow Saddam and his clique. Western and Arab diplomats say the Saudi proposal requires a UN Security Council resolution declaring amnesty for the vast majority of Iraqi officials if they orchestrate a transition of power in Baghdad. Such an amnesty would extend to all but 100 to 120 of the most senior Baath Party officials, including Saddam, his sons, close relatives and others who have long formed part of the ruling circle. It would be offered immediately prior to the outbreak of war as a signal to Saddam\'s generals that the time had arrived to save their own skins with a U.N.-guaranteed amnesty. And, the Saudis believe, it could well bring the traditionally coup-proof dictator tumbling down. "

Title: Coup in Iraq???? Fingers crossed
Post by: project86 on January 17, 2003, 07:17:40 AM

It would be great to see this go down. If we can\'t get him maybe his own generals can. In the end we all know that he will fall to his knees once again and find himself in submission.

Title: Coup in Iraq???? Fingers crossed
Post by: GigaShadow on January 17, 2003, 07:20:38 AM

I saw that on Fox last night, we could only be so lucky.  I also saw Scott Ritter in an interview for the first time.  He looked like a total idiot.  He contradicts himself and then gets angry when a retired general suggested he ride on the lead tank if we go to war without a chemical suit on since he is so convinced that Iraq has no chemical weapons.  If he would have been in the studio as opposed to being interviewed by satellite I am sure a fight would have broken out.  Even the other (British) UN Inspector who was being interviewed thought he was full of it.

Title: Coup in Iraq???? Fingers crossed
Post by: videoholic on January 17, 2003, 08:06:30 AM

Yeah, I\'ve seen interviews with ritter in the past.  People will say anything to get on tv.  Did he write a book?  That would explain a lot.



Having them do this on their own would be wonderful.  Either way I don\'t think Saddam will live through this.

Title: Coup in Iraq???? Fingers crossed
Post by: GigaShadow on January 17, 2003, 08:08:27 AM

Yeah with body doubles, etc... it is going to be hard to know if you got the right one.

Title: Coup in Iraq???? Fingers crossed
Post by: videoholic on January 17, 2003, 08:09:06 AM

heh, they all look alike......


* Ducks from flying apples *

Title: Coup in Iraq???? Fingers crossed
Post by: Ace on January 17, 2003, 08:27:26 AM

The only problem is that the Saudi royal family is no bargain either. They just play the game a little better.

Ace

Title: Coup in Iraq???? Fingers crossed
Post by: ooseven on January 17, 2003, 08:38:15 AM

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Originally posted by Ace
The only problem is that the Saudi royal family is no bargain either. They just play the game a little better.

Ace

Ace is right

the Saudi Rule makes Iraqi "home policy" look like a slap on the back of the hands.

Title: Coup in Iraq???? Fingers crossed
Post by: Tyrant on January 17, 2003, 09:21:07 AM

could some one please elaborate on this saudi thing?

Title: Coup in Iraq???? Fingers crossed
Post by: ooseven on January 17, 2003, 09:25:03 AM

the Saudi\'s Breaches on Human rights as soo long it would put most of the Axis of Evil to same.

lets just say

you don\'t want to be there when the s^&* hits the fan.

Title: Coup in Iraq???? Fingers crossed
Post by: videoholic on January 17, 2003, 09:26:30 AM

That\'s assuming the saudi\'s would take control, which I doubt.

Title: Coup in Iraq???? Fingers crossed
Post by: Coredweller on January 17, 2003, 09:26:50 AM

If this happens, there\'s a possibility that it could make matters worse.  The hard line militant islamic groups like the Taliban / Al Qaida / Hamas / etc already hate the Saudi royal family and the entire Saudi government.  They are seen as corrupt and immoral, and puppets of the West.  (which is mostly true)

If the Saudis orchestrate a coup in Iraq, the entire rest of the region could polarize against them.  The next coup we witness could be in Saudi Arabia.  That would be really bad.  The stable and friendly government in Saudi Arabia is our Number 1 asset in the Middle East.

Title: Coup in Iraq???? Fingers crossed
Post by: videoholic on January 17, 2003, 09:28:31 AM

Isn\'t that sad saying that Saudi Arabia is an asset to us when how many of the attackers on 9-11 were Saudi.

Title: Coup in Iraq???? Fingers crossed
Post by: Ace on January 17, 2003, 09:32:38 AM

Not to mention there is reason to believe that they have funneled money to terrorist groups. And, when Saddam was making his move on Kuwait, they were worried they were next and they had no problem with us being there when their asses were on the line.

We need them because we need somebody in the area.

Ace

Title: Coup in Iraq???? Fingers crossed
Post by: Tyrant on January 17, 2003, 09:35:43 AM

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Originally posted by ooseven


lets just say

you don\'t want to be there when the s^&* hits the fan.

i\'m already there :(.

BTW, I love the new color scheme when u click the reply button.