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Oh Christ no I don’t think I could handle another trilogy
Yup it was revealed to day that George Lucas (more like let it slip during a press confrence) is planning to do another Trilogy of Star wars films after the last of the prequels.
What I say is, oh dear God no
I really don’t think I could handle another half assed attempt to get more money out of us.
I mean come on the Series Nearly died thanks to Jar Jar in Episode one
And as for the Piss Poor and cringe worthy Yoda fight at the end of Attack of the clones … come on the franchise will EVER recover from that (oh what’s that flying out of the window ?…why is George Lucas’s credibility)
I mean for fook sake it was like casting Kermit the frog for the end fight in the Bruce lee Blockbuster Enter The Dragon.
I really don’t think I could watch another poorly written screen play that
Come on he has 20 years to write something good for the Prequels and from the looks of things he’s just making it up as he goes along.
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He was planning on making 9 altogether, the three prequels, then three that were set after the originals. He decided not to persue the idea........... Has he changed his mind again then?
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Originally posted by ooseven
Oh Christ no I don’t think I could handle another trilogy
Yup it was revealed to day that George Lucas (more like let it slip during a press confrence) is planning to do another Trilogy of Star wars films after the last of the prequels.
What I say is, oh dear God no
I really don’t think I could handle another half assed attempt to get more money out of us.
I mean come on the Series Nearly died thanks to Jar Jar in Episode one
And as for the Piss Poor and cringe worthy Yoda fight at the end of Attack of the clones … come on the franchise will EVER recover from that (oh what’s that flying out of the window ?…why is George Lucas’s credibility)
I mean for fook sake it was like casting Kermit the frog for the end fight in the Bruce lee Blockbuster Enter The Dragon.
I really don’t think I could watch another poorly written screen play that
Come on he has 20 years to write something good for the Prequels and from the looks of things he’s just making it up as he goes along.
Where did you see this ooseven? I just read yesterday that he was going to be making more films like his first one THX...
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it was anounced on BBC Radio
expect a Text verion of it soon.
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Oh Jesus, does this idiot know no bounds? He\'s lost it completely, any film he does now will be unappealing to me just because he\'s shown himself to be a pure money whore.
The best quote I heard from a review on Episode II was :
"It\'s like having buckets of Smarties poured over you for two long hours, very colourful but in the end nothing but irritating"
Sheer class!
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Originally posted by ooseven
I mean for fook sake it was like casting Kermit the frog for the end fight in the Bruce lee Blockbuster Enter The Dragon.
And what the hell would be wrong with that!:p
Besides, I say bring \'em in. I love them all. i just have a thing for Star Wars.
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From what I understand - he was mis-quoted and he retracted his statement saying that instead of making huge epic series, he would go back to more simple movies after he finished Episode III. Though, I somehow doubt it. Star War\'s is to much of a cash cow for him to just leave alone.
All the movie / DVD forums I go to are talkin\' about this recent interview.
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Pathetic. Episode I sucked Bantha-ass, Episode II only entertained for ten minutes and Episode III will quite probably be very, very lame.
The prequel trilogy is a blasphemy towards the brilliance of the original trilogy. Only if Lucas had had the intelligence to leave the series to the first, the classic, the old trilogy...
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The problem is again the same than in other sequels: they think special effects are all in a film. Somebody should warn \'em that there must be also a plot.
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Do not worry guys.
I dont think he will live long enough to make another 3:D
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
Pathetic. Episode I sucked Bantha-ass, Episode II only entertained for ten minutes and Episode III will quite probably be very, very lame.
The prequel trilogy is a blasphemy towards the brilliance of the original trilogy. Only if Lucas had had the intelligence to leave the series to the first, the classic, the old trilogy...
like i said he had 20 years to come up with something..anything.
but no he had to aim it at both Kid\'s (reason for Jar Jar)
And he also had to pander to all the generation X er out their
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the Yoda Battle )
God the first time i saw the Yoda Vs Doku fight i thought i was watching a episode of the GUMMI BEAR\'S.
FFS i wouldn\'t be suppried if Ep 3 had some matrix Style "bullet Time" for either the Fire or lightsaber fights.
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ok lets shatter a few myth here while we are at it
Boba Fett is not "cool" nor is he a main player...plus for a Legender Bounty hunter, hes about as menace\'n as a Electronics Boutiqe Store Clerk.
Jengo Fett was a poor move too oh god don\'t get me started on his Old man!
oh and another thing !
Whats with the "o we must include a part of the new films which were just there to make you want to buy the game that we had planned when we thought of it during screen play write up"
Examples
Pod Race (Ep 1)
Clone Vc Droid army (Ep2 Clone Wars)
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I think six films is more than enough in a series.
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I loved episode 4
I loved episode 5
I loved episode 6
I liked episode 1
I loved episode 2
Please let this be true!!
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all the star wars are cool. chewbaca should be in all of thhem
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I never saw ANY of the Star Wars films. ;)
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Bullshit...
How did you live through all the hype?
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Honest. Just wasn\'t interested in any of it...
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Watch them, some of them are actually decent,
I got bored, and just watched them so people wouldnt ask me "have you sseen it?"
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Well watch them, SER. Watch them NOW.
Decent? Bah! The original Star Wars were amazing. Chewbacca is da man!
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Yeah, I\'m getting around to watching films that people have told me were good. Just rented Scarface.. Gonna rent Pulp Fiction then maybe those Star Wars movies... maybe. :)
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Originally posted by r4nd0m
Well watch them, SER. Watch them NOW.
Decent? Bah! The original Star Wars were amazing. Chewbacca is da man!
It seems like everytime I post, it ends up you being at least some what bashing me.
Almost every post. Go ahead, its just starting to piss me off.
And yes, Decent.
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I personally can\'t wait for the next three. I hope he just doesn\'t make the same mistakes and make them more like the origional.
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original trilogy still is more emotional, but when it comes to action ep 2 takes the cake
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Episode 2 is poorly written, sappy romantic, overly CGI piece of garbage.
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Episode 1 was even worse!
Damnit, it all went down hill with Return of the Jedi!
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Bring on more Yoda fights and jive talking afro sporting aliens from the planets gangstar and/or bussacapulon.
You know its going to happen.
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
I loved episode 4
I loved episode 5
I loved episode 6
I liked episode 1
I loved episode 2
Please let this be true!!
OMG BOBO! I LOVE YOU!!!
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ooseven, Jango Fett was the best character Episode II offered. Plus I loved Ewan McGregor\'s work as Obi-Wan Kenobi. If they only had given him a better script...
Attack of the Clones had some potential. To me, it could have been the turning-point to a better future. But rather than twisting the trilogy to a better path, it made the whole saga worse. Why? First of all, Hayden Christensen as Anakin stumbled with his lines. I understand that it might be hard to act against blue screens - but Ewan pulled it off. Hayden did a good job with the hatred-scenes - but otherwise he tackled. His speech was like a snail crawling in a bowl of syrup. And don\'t get me started with the love-scenes... I only survived through \'em due to the beautiness of Princess Amidala...
Secondly I was very disappointed with the battle-scenes. They were effect-shows, nothing more, nothing less. Where was the suspension? Where was the sense of reality - the sense of being there? The battles reminded me of video-game openings - the real actors just weren\'t natural amidst all the colourful effects. If they had made Episode II a la Final Fantasy: Spirits Within - all computers - it could\'ve been a bit cooler. But not now.
And Yoda. Stick with the puppet, Lucas! Yoda not only looked worse than his plastic ancestor, his once-great authority and soul were destroyed in the process of turning him from silicon to digital. George, snap out of your money-hunger and be the film-maker you once were! Where\'s your innovation? Where\'s your motivation? IN MONEY? It used to be different, George, and you know it. If Peter Jackson had made the prequel trilogy... Oh how glorious it could\'ve been... PJ loves his work, you love money.
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Episode 1 would have rocked if they didn\'t have Jar Jar Binks and I didn\'t get why a Trade Franchise would attack a planet. That could have been worked on a bit more
E2 was the best actionally. The story line could have been a lot better in my opinion. Otherwise it was pretty good. However, I still loved all of them.
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Originally posted by Titan
Episode 1 would have rocked if they didn\'t have Jar Jar Binks and I didn\'t get why a Trade Franchise would attack a planet. That could have been worked on a bit more
E2 was the best actionally. The story line could have been a lot better in my opinion. Otherwise it was pretty good. However, I still loved all of them.
Jar-Jar, as an individual, did not bother me much. There were so many things wrong in Episode I, that blaming all the errors on Jar-Jar is unfair.
Agreed, he was a babbling mess - but given that the storyline was uninteresting, Jake Lloyd a worse clown and the battles unthrilling, Jar-Jar was only a small mis-step amidst all the awkward decisions.
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George Lucas is on crack. Episode 2 by his rules should have been a very dark movie. Well I did not see that Anakin killed a few bad guys. Big whoop. There was no "Luke I am your Father" line in there. Hell the only memorable moment I have is the Yoda fight, and that ruined my childhood fancy of how Yoda would fight. I won\'t go into it to much but Yoda should be enough of a badass to fight with the force alone, and not a lightsaber.
I have to agree with Lic that the series started to go downhill with Jedi. Those silly EWOKS were horrible. Other than that it was a great movie. So I can overlook them.
Now to the Special Editions of the original trilogy. This is one of the few series that needed 0 extra\'s other than to clean it up. Do we really need that new music duet in ROJ? No!!! In fact if you view the specials on the laserdisc version of the trilogy. It is on the jedi disc, they admit 1 was the only one they meant to remake, but they had so much fun with it that they decided to redo them all. Not only that it was a way to do a tech demo for ep 1,2,3.
I do believe my biggest gripe with Lucas though is that he has lost touch with the fans. Where is our star wars ep 4,5,6, and Indiana Jones trilogy on DVD? Sure the Indy is suppose to be coming soon. I wonder how much useless crap Lucas will add to them. All cg of course. Curses lucas for giving me childhood memories, and then taking them away!!!!!!
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
ooseven, Jango Fett was the best character Episode II offered.
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Christ please don\'t tell me your serious :eek:
the fett\'s are the most over rated characters in ANY story line.
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The sad thing about this whole saga is the fact that when we do finally receive the original trilogy of Star War\'s on DVD, it most likely will not be the true originals. It will be the SE re-released, special effects version. Lucas has been quoted as to saying that is the only versions he wants to release on DVD. \'Tis a shame really that so many young people will miss out on the classics, before Star War\'s was just another CG tech demo for the Lucas\' camp. Will I get them? Yes. Will I be happy? No...
Oh and speaking of Star War\'s, I read somewhere that Episode 3 is most goin\' to focus on Anakin\'s love and that he won\'t actually cross over until the last 20 mintues or so of the film. If that is the case, I see this new trilogy as a complete waste of time. It breaks every rule of Lucas\' own words once.
He once said that the first movie was suppose to set up the characters, the second place them in an impossible situation and the third was suppose to close the characters and see them prevail. He has abided by none of these rules.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Oh and speaking of Star War\'s, I read somewhere that Episode 3 is most goin\' to focus on Anakin\'s love and that he won\'t actually cross over until the last 20 mintues or so of the film. If that is the case, I see this new trilogy as a complete waste of time. It breaks every rule of Lucas\' own words once.
yup 20 min\'s max
everything has aready been set-up via Ep 1 & 2
so in Ep 3 there is no pointless drivel and diffidently no need for point plot explanation.
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
and the battles unthrilling
Heh..
The final battle with Darth Maul is one of my favorite parts in the entire saga
*shrugs*
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Heh..
The final battle with Darth Maul is one of my favorite parts in the entire saga
*shrugs*
Ah. Darth Maul. The only \'bright\' star in the dark sky of The Phantom Menace.
The saber-fight was thrilling for a while - but the excitement vanished completely once I foresaw the inevitable...
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heh, I think darth maul was a bit of a prop, actually. still scary mary.
I also think all this lucas bashing comes from the "lets bag ep1 bandwagon". The people who liked Pearl Harbour suddenly become the authorative source on Film Artistry when it comes to the new Star Wars Trillogy. I don\'t buy into the whole "LOOK AT ME, I\'m SMART TOO!" thing. Episode II comes second to Episode V, IMO, but that\'s just me.
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Originally posted by Avatarr
heh, I think darth maul was a bit of a prop, actually. still scary mary.
I also think all this lucas bashing comes from the "lets bag ep1 bandwagon". The people who liked Pearl Harbour suddenly become the authorative source on Film Artistry when it comes to the new Star Wars Trillogy. I don\'t buy into the whole "LOOK AT ME, I\'m SMART TOO!" thing. Episode II comes second to Episode V, IMO, but that\'s just me.
no its not just Ep1 bashing
its Prequel thing
like I said GL has 20 years[/i] to devolve a Strong powerful Script for Ep 1 to 3.
but from the looks of things (66% through the prequels) it looks like he just made it up just before filming.
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I think it is Ep1 bashing. There\'s no question in my mind that George was waayy to lenient on the actors on that one. The thing that ruined it for me was Jake Lloyd\'s performance, more than anything. Jar Jar is kinda me when I\'m acting :cute: :) (but its retarded now cuz I\'m so old!) Somehow, people just can\'t get over that and its carried over to Episode II. Episode II wasn\'t bad at all; it certainly doesn\'t deserve half the crap thats being thrown at it from here.
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Originally posted by Avatarr
I think it is Ep1 bashing. There\'s no question in my mind that George was waayy to lenient on the actors on that one. The thing that ruined it for me was Jake Lloyd\'s performance, more than anything. Jar Jar is kinda me when I\'m acting :cute: :) (but its retarded now cuz I\'m so old!) Somehow, people just can\'t get over that and its carried over to Episode II. Episode II wasn\'t bad at all; it certainly doesn\'t deserve half the crap thats being thrown at it from here.
no not me
i was enjoying Ep2 right up till the battle with Jengo fett (first cheap attempt to get some action)
Than there was the Clone Army / Droid Army CGI FEST which looked Plasticy and blury.
Yup beleve it or not the "romance" part didn\'t bother me that much.ok so it was a bit long but hey thats no crime
and then to finish it off the Yoda Vs Doku fight..which looked like a episode of the Gummi Bears.
FFS i never though iwould say this but with just that 3 1/2 min battle they managed to kill of Yoda\'s Credability.
Hey i nearly burst out laughing at it in the theatre when i saw it for the first time , I honestly thought it was some kind of joke.
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Originally posted by Avatarr
I think it is Ep1 bashing. There\'s no question in my mind that George was waayy to lenient on the actors on that one. The thing that ruined it for me was Jake Lloyd\'s performance, more than anything. Jar Jar is kinda me when I\'m acting :cute: :) (but its retarded now cuz I\'m so old!) Somehow, people just can\'t get over that and its carried over to Episode II. Episode II wasn\'t bad at all; it certainly doesn\'t deserve half the crap thats being thrown at it from here.
Did you forget about dropping out of the flying car falling forever, and then landing on the correct flying car?
Episode 1, and 2 is filled with quite a few inconsistencies as compared to ep 4,5, and 6. One quick one is that yoda is the one that instructed obi-wan. Anyone remember Obi-Wan multiple times telling Luke that Yoda instructed him?
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Teehee, that Yoda instructing ObiWan bugged me quite a bit. That whole "yoda taught all the jedi when they were young" (remember the map scene) slant, sits very oddly with me - it seems a bit half assed. But when you think about it, it isn\'t all too strange. After Qui-Gon died, who keeps telling Obi-Wan what to do? Yoda and Mace. By Episode V, who\'s still alive? Yoda! Obi-Wan isn\'t going to tell Luke to go to dead Jedi, he\'ll tell him about Yoda!
Sammy, you\'re knocking some of the best parts of the movie now. All of the action scenes were flawless, technically. I even thought that the clones were real people untill I read they were all CG (prolly to cut costs!). Yoda fight scence, big Clone Battle, big Jedi Arena battle, loved it fully. But its clear you\'ve developed a bit of a prejudice; I can see how u might not like any of George Lucas\'s new work.
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Originally posted by Avatarr
Sammy, you\'re knocking some of the best parts of the movie now. All of the action scenes were flawless, technically. I even thought that the clones were real people untill I read they were all CG (prolly to cut costs!). Yoda fight scence, big Clone Battle, big Jedi Arena battle, loved it fully. But its clear you\'ve developed a bit of a prejudice; I can see how u might not like any of George Lucas\'s new work.
Sammy? What did I say? :confused:
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
Ah. Darth Maul. The only \'bright\' star in the dark sky of The Phantom Menace.
The saber-fight was thrilling for a while - but the excitement vanished completely once I foresaw the inevitable...
I just loved how it was executed. He was built up as this big badass who could fight beyond them (somehow) and very little else was known. Then as the whole group were nearing their destination, and victory was upon them.. they ran up to the final door, only to have it open (in an upwards direction) and Darth Maul was standing there, head down.. in all his glory. Then......... the music hit :D Gives me goosebumps every time I see it.
And apart from the whole high-speed chase scene at the start of Episode 2, I loved every minute of it. What I particularly love about Episode 1/2 (and most likely 3) is how it parallels the events in Episodes 4 - 6. And shows the slight differences that led to Anakin going to the dark side, and Luke to light. Even though the major event is yet to come.
IMO, AotC is second only to RotJ. With ESB in a close 3rd.
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
I just loved how it was executed. He was built up as this big badass who could fight beyond them (somehow) and very little else was known. Then as the whole group were nearing their destination, and victory was upon them.. they ran up to the final door, only to have it open (in an upwards direction) and Darth Maul was standing there, head down.. in all his glory. Then......... the music hit :D Gives me goosebumps every time I see it.
And apart from the whole high-speed chase scene at the start of Episode 2, I loved every minute of it. What I particularly love about Episode 1/2 (and most likely 3) is how it parallels the events in Episodes 4 - 6. And shows the slight differences that led to Anakin going to the dark side, and Luke to light. Even though the major event is yet to come.
IMO, AotC is second only to RotJ. With ESB in a close 3rd.
I\'m glad that you are able to enjoy them...
Despite the lackluster prequels, I am waiting forward to Episode III. Might be a killer.
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episode 1 sucked,
episode 2 was good, not great, i disliked seeing jango fett face, the whole thing about boba that was sooo cool, was you never saw his face, so it left it to your imagionation..
well i hope the best for episode 3, i hope gl doesnt make more, but a better director will make the rest...
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Originally posted by Samwise
Sammy? What did I say? :confused:
a dirty movie-ist, you are. :p
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I don\'t know what you\'re talking about. I loved Episode 2.
Boba Fett is incredibly cool. Don\'t bring his old man into it? Jango Fett is just as cool as Boba. I was actually kind of disappointed when he died so easily and quickly. No one got to know about what a legend he is and all the amazing things hes done.
The Yoda fight was awesome. Yoda was supposed to be a legendary fighter, remember?
I hope they do make another trilogy... just go back to the series\' darker roots. And for the love of god and all that is holy get rid of Jar Jar.
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if they do come out with anhtor three does that mean it would years in the future ,,from the orginal ones...they have to some up a llot of new characters it should be pretty good
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Speaking of Boba Fett, where I used to work, there was a kid exactly like him. It was funny.
I personally can\'t wait for Episode 3. I think it will be the best, as long as Lucas learns from his mistakes and use what he learns in Episode 3. I personally would like to see the uprising of the Rebellion and early fights between the Empire and the Rebellion. That would be cool.