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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Ginko on January 18, 2003, 11:07:18 AM
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This is all from Newsweek
Combined, they cost more than $300 million—probably far more, but no one’s talking. Silver is promising a climactic battle like we’ve never seen before: a 17-minute sequence that alone cost about two thirds of the budget of the first “Matrix.” (That film, in case you’re wondering, cost $65 million.) Maybe four or five other directors on the planet could persuade a studio to give them that kind of money—and they’ve all made far more movies than the Wachowskis.
The freeway chase was the first sequence the Wachowskis tackled for the sequels, and they spent months searching for the perfect location. So the search came up empty. The brothers’ solution was a tad unconventional: they dumped the idea of shooting on an existing freeway and built their own. In February 2001, they hired a construction crew to erect a two-mile loop—complete with exit signs, dividers, an on ramp and an overpass—on an old U.S. naval base in Alameda, Calif. When they first heard the idea, the construction guys nearly keeled over. “They actually said to us, ‘We’re not doing this’,” recalls executive producer Grant Hill. “They couldn’t believe it was for a movie. They said, ‘Do you realize how much this costs?’ ” Correct answer: $300,000 per quarter mile. “We just looked at each other and said, ‘OK, we can do that’.”
It’s far from over. Between now and next November, Gaeta’s visual-effects company, Esc (as in the “escape” button on a keyboard), and six other FX houses will have to deliver more than 2,500 separate shots, many of which will have taken nearly three years to complete. (By comparison, the first “Matrix” had 412 FX shots.) The price tag: a whopping $100 million, a figure that includes a new facility for Esc on the base in Alameda.
I wish I had a 300 million dollar budget...and my own freeway!
I know that the two sequels will probably be the biggest movies this year...but damn, I remember back when Mortal Kombat came in as the highest budgeted film at 40 million.
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They had better be good with a budget like that. I\'m glad I\'m not the one financing it.
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I\'ll be damned if Matrix flops.
But I\'ll also be damned if it beats the epicness of Lord of the Rings.
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"ENTER THE GAETA!" :laughing:
The Matrix pictures will earn back that cash with no problem. There is absolutely no way they will suck. The anticipation is going to be bigger than anything the movie industry has ever seen.
The Wachowski\'s biggest challenge will be in keeping this story fresh. When the first film came out, people like me went to see over and over because it was different and refreshing. Now some of the novelty has worn off because we\'ve been thinking about that story for a few years. It will be easy to get people to go see The Matrix: Reloaded once but to get them to see it several times, it has to be refreshing and different in some way. I think they are up to the challenge.
BTW, I\'m sure Mortal Kombat was not the most expensive film at that time. I know for sure that Michael Cimino spent more than $40 mllion on "Heaven\'s Gate," and that was released many years before MK.
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So that\'s ~$150,000 per movie, in comparison Titanic cost $200 million to make. Still mucho dinero but this proves Titanic is still the greatest movie ever made.
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Because it cost more, it\'s the greatest movie ever made? I sincerely hope you\'re joking. BTW, I mean no offense if you happen to love "Titanic," but it was a huge steaming pile of Buffalo feces. :)
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Actually thats $150,000,000 per movie. :)
It probably cost considerably less because they were filmed at the same time.
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I was going by Ginko\'s numbers but you\'re right:
Matrix Reloaded = $127mil
Matrix Revolutions = $110mil
And of course I was joking about Titianic, my fav part is when Leo died (I know because I watched it 25x in the theaters and watch the DVD everynight).
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Thats a hell of a lot of money.
You can tell America has become so commercial, they are spending millions, and millions on money for what? A movie.
I love the matrix and all, its just I believe the world is heading in the wrong direction.
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Spudz you\'re thread crapping again.
Do you know who really pays for the movies? Producers arrange for a bunch of investors to fund the budget; they explain the plot, target audience, and expected numbers. Sometimes the investors get a return sometimes they don\'t. Matrix is a sure thing though so naturally it wouldn\'t be as hard to find investors.
Sorry if you knew this but you made it sound like our government is paying for the movies or something. The investors could very well be international. Whether you like it or not movies are just gonna get bigger and bigger. If the demand is there nothing\'s really wrong with that.
Don\'t hate the playa hate the game potnuh.
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I don\'t really care about the money, if it\'s in the same level Matrix 1 was, buhhhh... get ready buddies.
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Jet Li was to appear in both sequels...
The Wachowskis cried poverty and end up doing this...
Right...
P.S. - The Matrix was overrated...
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Oh my f*cing God... it\'s gonna be SPETACULAR SPETACULAR! :eek:
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This is gonna be awesome... Don\'t they come out within months of each other or something?
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Originally posted by Coredweller
The anticipation is going to be bigger than anything the movie industry has ever seen.
It\'s funny how myopic we all tend to be. If I went and asked everyone I pass or talk to at work and in my day about Matrix, probably only about 5% saw Matrix 1 and 1/2 of that even liked it.
Don\'t get me wrong. I liked the movie. I can\'t stand everything about keano reeves though. That dude is a dolt.
Don\'t forget the marketing of the movie. That is in the tens of millions as well. But this movie can\'t have all the action figures, furry creatures, and space ships like Star Wars has. It needs to rake it in at the box office. But now with DVD purchases going through the roof, they make tons there as well.
I wonder if DVDs will ever go to rental pricing like VHS did.
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I had better be good. I love the first one and greatly anticipate the 2nd and 3rd. I can\'t wait
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I think they would make more money if they released them a year or so apart. The anticipation would be greater if the 2nd one is good, but what do I know :)
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:eek:
I cant wait for this movie.The first was my favourite movie!
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I personally can\'t stand \'The Matrix\', it had great special effects - yes, but other than that, it was just another run of the mill sci-fi movie, \'cept it had "Whoa, dude" - Keanu Reeves casted as the main character.
As for the sequels, I don\'t expect much. I think they\'ll suffer from "Jurrasic Park syndrome" - which is caused when the original movie comes out with amazing special effects and the sequels can\'t live up to them, due to the fact that the special effects just arent as amazin.
Well, perhaps... I\'m not a great fan of The Matrix either, but I enjoyed it quite a bit anyway. However, I read in an interview that they\'re making SFX that "can\'t" be copied, like how the bullet FX in TM was copied in most every action movie afterwards. And with the things I hear going on, it should be visually very pleasing at least. So for that reason alone I\'ll watch the sequels. :)
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Debbie Does Dallas - was visually pleasing, diudn\'t make it the greatest movie ever tho\'.
:D
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Lol, can\'t argue about that. :D
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The Matrix had some of the most original plots.:rpissed:
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The Whole Conspet of the Matrix is Flawed.
Plus most of the REAL points to a films, say the piss poor Acting are Glossed over by CGI most Geeks.
i have seen Dog Turds with more life than Mr Revees and Co.
FFS if it wasn’t for this Films Large Budget then it would have been a Straight to Video
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Finally some people who didn\'t think it was all that great.
Only thing that ever intrigued me about the movie was the action. The movie as a whole I thought blew nuggets. It is virtually impossible for me to watch anything with Keano and enjoy it. The guy in real life is a walking dolt. He should have stuck with Bill & Ted.
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Originally posted by videoholic
Finally some people who didn\'t think it was all that great.
Only thing that ever intrigued me about the movie was the action. The movie as a whole I thought blew nuggets. It is virtually impossible for me to watch anything with Keano and enjoy it. The guy in real life is a walking dolt. He should have stuck with Bill & Ted.
here here
may i be the first to suggest that even the role of playing in Bill & Ted would be still too much for him to play.
Like i said in a old thread
Mr Reaveshas only 2 acting modes.
[list=1]
- Wooden as the Rain Forest Mode (Matrix , Speed)
- Grinning Gimp Mode
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I remember during an MTV Awards show when Matrix won a bunch of crap they grabbed Keanu and did an interview with him back stage. I can honestly say that I\'d rather be left in a room to talk intelligently to Anna Nicole Smith and Mariah Carey.
There is no way for me to put into words how stupid he was. He couldn\'t create a sentence.
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Yeah yeah find stupid excuses to bury it:mad:
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Vid, do a search of \'best movies ever\' threads and you\'ll see a bunch of 15 year olds putting The Matrix as TEH BESTEST MOVIE EVAR!111
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Originally posted by Samwise
Vid, do a search of \'best movies ever\' threads and you\'ll see a bunch of 15 year olds putting The Matrix as TEH BESTEST MOVIE EVAR!111
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yeah they voted for it because the Acting as soo life like.
:rolleyes:
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I don\'t think it\'s anywhere near the 100 greatest movies of all time but similar to flicks such as the Mummy series, Jurassic park, etc.. it\'s a good popcorn movie, nothing more. You can go and spend your $7 just for the hell of it. It does have a nice little post-modern story and state of the art effects (for its time) but the plot is corny plain and simple.
Either way I bet everyone reading this thread will go see it. :fro:
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The Matrix had one of the dumbest endings I\'ve ever seen...
Neo dies, Trinity professes her love, Neo comes back to life and is now invincible...
What a load of crap...
And the action is rather mediocre...
Most people were probably awestruck by the booming sound effects and "whooshes" of the "actors" moves without realizing they were intended to hide the below average martial arts...
Watch a Jackie Chan/Jet Li/Sammo Hung or any Hong Kong martial arts movie for REAL martial arts action and watch any HK Chow Yun Fat movie for gun action...
As for a better sci-fi movie....
Ummmmm...
:fro:
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I\'ll be the first to see this movie!
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The Matrix is an excellent movie. One of the best films ever made. If you want to slag of a Sci-fi for being flawed look at the over rated Minority report (How the hell can his wife open security doors with his eye\'s even after he\'s been imprissoned?) It\'s totally paradoxical and in my opinion not a patch on the Matrix.