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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Jumpman on January 23, 2003, 05:07:45 PM
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The guy is (unfortunately) probably the most popular male music dude since Kurt Cobain. I was curious to what everyone thought about him and his music.
First of all, I hate rap, so my opinion on his music wouldn\'t be the greatest. I do think it is very good for what it is. The amount of hate in his albums is undiscribable. I think his albums are slowly improving in quality and originality.
I have nothing against him as a person. He\'s doing what he pleases and seems to be very intelligent in his interviews.
And here\'s a picture of him in his early days as the biggest thug ever.
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I think he is very talented. Although I don\'t listen to much rap, he is redefining the genre. How many other rappers can stay on one subject? Eminem is the only rapper I feel that puts his thoughts and feelings into his songs. His songs aren\'t just some brag-fest like ALL the others.
Of course, if this was the late-80s, early-90s, I would have something different to say.
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IMO he is the greatest lyricist in rap, ever. An absolutly amazing writer, and extremely skilled rapper.
Unfortunetly this thread will be killed off by people who say rap sucks.
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IMO he is the greatest lyricist in rap, ever. An absolutly amazing writer, and extremely skilled rapper.
Unfortunetly this thread will be killed off by people who say rap sucks.
*damn forum was lagging, double post badness a consequence*
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Originally posted by theomen
IMO he is the greatest lyricist in rap, ever. An absolutly amazing writer, and extremely skilled rapper.
Unfortunetly this thread will be killed off by people who say rap sucks.
he a good stage presents but the white man is white not black so try out altr rock that what the whites are doing not rap
other then that i agree theomen
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Originally posted by shawn9990
he a good stage presents but the white man is white not black so try out altr rock that what the whites are doing not rap
other then that i agree theomen
Don\'t be such a racist ****wit. Just because he is white doesn\'t mean he can\'t rap, same with black people doing altn rock.
God, I thought this kinda attitude died years ago.
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i was about to say that but then i thought hed say i didnt like him,lol. JK. but i dont think color should define u to listen to a certain kind of music. he obviously likes rap so theres no reason he shouldnt do it. i dont really listen to rap but some of his lyrics(that iv seen) are awesome. i also like the pink shirt hes wearing :). Alf kicks @ss.
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I don\'t care if he\'s he\'s white and rapping, just along as no coloreds start signing country music...
I hope you see the irony
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He has some good songs, but I really really those real slim shady songs. Those are absolutely crap.
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Eminem is cool. I haven\'t heard a song yet by him that has the words "platinum","ferrari", and "ballin". Rap this days is just plain stupid. I mean even IM starting to listen to J\'lo, shakira, and all those pop people. The only rap im sticking with is Eminem, SPM, BTNH, and all the rappers that have gotten over the fact they got money.
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Pop is making a big comeback I think.
Proof - Kylie Minogue
I think everyone is gettin a little tired of all these rappers singing about bangin hoe\'s in their new red Ferrari\'s.
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His lyrical writing abilites are outstanding. As far as how he conducts himself; I hate the man.
I also care not for rap, but he does write catchy lyrics nonetheless.
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On a whole, I think Eminem is sub-par but as a rapper he\'s great.
Yeah I got nothing. :(
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That picture...
...is hilarious.
As for the thread. I don\'t like Eminem, I don\'t like \'his\' music, I don\'t like his lryics, and I don\'t like his haircut.
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I don\'t care what any of you say, Eminem likes m and m\'s. Why else would he call himself that?
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Good question...
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Marshal Mathers
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Pop is making a big comeback I think.
Proof - Kylie Minogue
I think everyone is gettin a little tired of all these rappers singing about bangin hoe\'s in their new red Ferrari\'s.
Where have you been? Pop is DYING.. Just look at all those crap boy bands and bubble gum pop girls ie Backstreet Boys, NSync, Britney Spears...
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Originally posted by theomen
Marshal Mathers
You know? M and M the candy?
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I always figured he\'d be more of a skittle person, myself.
And Racer, pop is dying. Slowly but surely.
When will Metal become a (the?) dominant music style, again? :(
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Screw Metal, when will grunge make a comeback?
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grunge make a comeback? when was it ever a in thing. Sure it\'s got it\'s fan base. But i can\'t remember ever seeing grunge songs on the top ten of rage etc.
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
grunge make a comeback? when was it ever a in thing. Sure it\'s got it\'s fan base. But i can\'t remember ever seeing grunge songs on the top ten of rage etc.
Were you even alive in the early 90\'s?
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Dude, grunge was all there was in the early 90\'s. Nirvana and Pearl Jam were immensely popular. Probably the two biggest bands of the 90\'s(Nirvana being bigger of the two on a whole). Smells Like Teen Spirit was probably the most played rock song of the 90\'s. Grunge was teh shiznett.
Grunge died when Kurt Cobain killed himself though.
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Btw, what is he holding in his hands in that pic?
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Don\'t you mean when Courtney shot him?
As for pop dying\' - its slower than usual, but it\'ll never die, because we will always have teenage girls who go goo-goo over cute boys, we\'ll always have soccer moms who love songs about eternal lust and love. The market will always remain.
By the way - grunge was huge in the 90\'s. It was what "rap" is today. The popular genre. Soundgarden, Nirvana, Pearl Jam and many other bands was huge hits.
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man, pearl jan used to be so good, vitology rules.
as for eminem... i just dont see whats so great about him.
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Eminem is the Nirvana of today - although the musical genre is quite different. Why? Because Eminem is controversial, original and has a "so-what? f*ck the television" attitude, much like Nirvana once had. He does whatever he wants, and the crowd follows.
Eminem isn\'t bad. I don\'t like rap in general - I hate phat, 1337-like rappers such as P. Diddy and Jay-Z - but Eminem gets my vibes goin\' every now and then. His latest album, The Eminem Show, is great - better than his previous work.
I have nothing against the guy either. He has succeeded through hard work, end of story.
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Don\'t you mean when Courtney shot him?
Courtney was in a drub rehab center when he shot himself(she was out when the body was found, but SHE wasn\'t even in Seatle at the time).
I don\'t even think she was beyind it. After reading a biography on him called "Heavier Than Heaven", I\'m 75% sure that he did kill himself. The guy was just so messed up all his life. Its sad because it all started with his parents getting divorced at the age of 7(?) and it all went downhill from there. I would go into detail but you should really check the book out. Great read on a great man.
And you are correct about the bands you named. Nirvana, Pearl Jam, and Soundgarden were the big three when it came to grunge.
man, pearl jan used to be so good, vitology rules.
Nirvana>Pearl Jam. And Ten>Vitalogy>Vs>all the crap since then.
Because Eminem is controversial, original and has a "so-what? f*ck the television" attitude, much like Nirvana once had.
I find that Eminem and even Nirvana were very television friendly, they were just very anti-everything-ish. Although in Kurt\'s case, a lot of just was just well planned out material to boost his career...
Oh, and Kurt Cobain>Eminem. No comparasion.
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Originally posted by The Stapler
Although I don\'t listen to much rap, he is redefining the genre. How many other rappers can stay on one subject?
No he isnt, and far from it. Well, maybe for aspiring little white kids. Many others, some of which can eat him up or hang with him.
Pac could
biggie could
dmx can
outkast can
nas can
redman can
method man can
all of the cats from wu-tang can
many many more, and that is just rap, dont let me get started on hiphop.
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Well, as far as my taste of rap goes, I believe that rap that sucks is the rappers who brag about all the cash they made, and all the prostitutes they "earned" by being radio-friendly. Please.
Eminem, Dre, and DMX. That\'s it for me.
See Yuz.
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Originally posted by Jumpman
Nirvana>Pearl Jam. And Ten>Vitalogy>Vs>all the crap since then.
ill give you the nirvana > pearl jam.
but ill take vitology over ten and vs.
vs. and vitology are my ytwo favorite PJ albums.
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That\'s cool man. VS and Vitalogy still rock.
Btw, just to clarify all rap fans, Rage Against The ****ing Machine>Eminem
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i dont like him, i thinks he is a bit of a dick, but totally respect his musical talent, and "his story" or whatever, but like he has real talent as a\\ rapper, but what he raps about, well kinda makes him not seem so serious...
i loved his first 2 albums, his d12 album and his new album sucked imo...
personally i dislike rap music now, its started to become way to pop for me
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He has guts... I mean standing up their saying what he thinks and feels, in a mostly black music industry. I have a feeling something may happen to him (assassination maybe) because some of his lyrics are very controversial, and have sparked some rivalry and violenece. I\'m not a rap fan, trust me. But as a musical artist I think he\'s pretty good. He just better watch out, tension is building, and sooner or later. *pow*
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I doubt he\'ll be assassinated. He has toned his lyrics down a bit and managed to make every one of his albums better than the previous. The Eminem Show is amazing.
As for what hes holding in the picture....it looks like a birthday cake...