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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: ##RaCeR## on January 24, 2003, 04:43:15 AM
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I just had a pretty close friend of mine tell me he\'s gay. I was like OMG, in complete shock, I totally never saw it coming at all. He always had girlfriends at school and all the chicks used to love him to death. Its no big deal I suppose, I\'m just still really shocked. It probably won\'t change anything between us, but its just still alittle strange and I think its going to take a while before I come to terms with it. Should I let this come between our friendship? Is it really a choice he can make, or is it just something that your born with?
Whats everyone\'s view on this kinda thing? Please keep in mind this is a sensitive issue and not everyone has your same opinion.
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This thread is just LOOKING for lots of gay jokes.. mainly towards u racer.
but if it does change your friendship. Then you shouldn\'t be friends anyway....
just a thought.
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
This thread is just LOOKING for lots of gay jokes.. mainly towards u racer.
Well if thats the case then this place is not worth the bother.
Its a serious topic, have some respect.
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like solly said nothing wrong with gay firends.
but as for the women still falling for him even though he\'s gay, well thats natural to.
most women like gay male friends because, they just want Friendship rather than sex.
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This is a serious question - was he one of the friends in the shower?
But it really shouldn\'t change anything. Who cares what he likes to fantasize about?
And I believe you\'re born the way you are, i.e. straight or gay (and the confused ones who like to play it both ways :)).
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Why should anything change just because he is gay? Well, unless he comes on to you and you dont like it.
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NO HE WAS NOT A SHOWER BOY...
Good lord I would have died if he was.
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Something tells me, Racer, that you are going to be uncomfortable around him no matter what.
Just a vibe I\'m getting.
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
NO HE WAS NOT A SHOWER BOY...
Good lord I would have died if he was.
Why?
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sounds like a homophobe to me.
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cause they had a shower together maybe!?.... hmmmm
homophobe are normaly the gay ones... or confused.
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I have a few(3) that friends that are gay, they are the most fun loving people I know. Racer , don\'t be so narrow minded....he still the same guy. Don\'t let it change anything
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Well, I can\'t blame Racer for thinking it would be odd if the guy had been involved in the shower wrestling orgy... I would too.
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Born gay? No. I will say that we are all born with the chemicals that make us who we are whether that be mentally or physically. Naturally speaking though men were meant for woman and vise-a-versa. But as for this changing your friendship, I guess it would be no different than being good friends with any girl. You don’t have to approve of what they do or how they feel towards any specific gender to be friends with a person. I knew a guy before who was nothing more than a womanizer. I hated to see the fact that he would bring home a different girl every night and then ditch them only to pick them back up when he got lonely. I am the type to have one woman at a time so you can understand my issues with this guy, but he still was my friend. He and I got along well. I may not have liked what he did but he and I were able to be friends. I know it’s not exactly the same thing but before you change your relationship with him based on sexual preference, ask yourself if he is really a true friend and how will affect your life not having him as a friend any more.
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Originally posted by Samwise
Well, I can\'t blame Racer for thinking it would be odd if the guy had been involved in the shower wrestling orgy... I would too.
Would you "die" if you found out that you once wrestled with a gay guy?
And the guy probably didn\'t even know he was gay during the shower debarkle.
Racer, it\'s your father isn\'t it? It\'s ok, you can tell us.
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Originally posted by §ôµÏG®ïñD
cause they had a shower together maybe!?.... hmmmm
homophobe are normaly the gay ones... or confused.
nope, homophobes are the straight scared of the not so straight :)
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Originally posted by luckee
nope, homophobes are the straight scared of the not so straight :)
Not always.
People can be homophobic for many reasons. Why would someone secure in their sexuality be prejudice against a homosexual? Unless they\'re just a straight out biggot. :)
I\'d say that in some (not all, obviously) cases, the people are homophobic because they are insecure about their own sexuality and are showing an outward aggression in an attempt to curb any thoughts that they themselves might be gay.
Well, Freud agrees with me :p
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Would you "die" if you found out that you once wrestled with a gay guy?
No, I wouldn\'t "die". I\'d just be a bit shaken. ;)
And then I\'d now why he tried to grab my ass so often. :D
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Originally posted by Samwise
And then I\'d now why he tried to grab my ass so often. :D
I think you\'re giving yourself a bit too much credit, old bean. :)
If I were gay, I certainly wouldn\'t try to grab your ass.
I\'d go for your ballsack.
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As long as he doesn\'t come onto you, it shouldn\'t be a problem.
Oops, maybe I could have worded that a little better!;)
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Not always.
People can be homophobic for many reasons. Why would someone secure in their sexuality be prejudice against a homosexual? Unless they\'re just a straight out biggot. :)
I\'d say that in some (not all, obviously) cases, the people are homophobic because they are insecure about their own sexuality and are showing an outward aggression in an attempt to curb any thoughts that they themselves might be gay.
Well, Freud agrees with me :p
I understand what you are saying and im not arguing that.
BUT...
How can it be not always? I mean how can a gay person be homophobic?
That was in reference to your "not always" comment.
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How can a gay person be homophobic?
Homophobia is a fear of homosexuals. This person is confused, and had grown up (most likely) that being homosexual is wrong, and heterosexual is the only way someone is supposed to act. He/She is confused and scared of what he/she is. Afraid of them being what they were taught was wrong. What they know as a "disease". And how people who are homosexuals are treated. Also, of the community he/she will have to embrace.
Particularly for a young person, it must be extremely hard to do something as couragous as what Racer\'s friend did. Racer, you shouldn\'t be shaken, it\'s your friend who should be shaken. He risked losing his friends and family to come out. Show some ****ing sensitivity.
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I know, and when I said that, you responded with. "not always"
Thats what I was asking about. Maybe a mistake, but I was just trying to see if I missed something. :)
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Now you\'ve just completely confused me.
You said it\'s the straight afraid of the gay.
I said it\'s not always that, it can also be the gay mascarading as the straight afraid of the gay.
Now you say you said what I said when I said that after you said what you said before I said it?
You big gayey gay homo gay gay.
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Would you "die" if you found out that you once wrestled with a gay guy?
And the guy probably didn\'t even know he was gay during the shower debarkle.
Racer, it\'s your father isn\'t it? It\'s ok, you can tell us.
I think the act of wrestling in the shower would qualify him as gay whether he realized it or not. :p
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Ok, now I understand how you meant "not always" completely. My goof.
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I kind of want a gay friend for some odd reason(I masterbate to woman at night btw, not men ;)). Not incredibly gay like Jack from Will and Grace, someone like Will.
Anyways, I think you try to maintain your friendship.
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Originally posted by Jumpman
I kind of want a gay friend for some odd reason(I masterbate to woman at night btw, not men ;)). Not incredibly gay like Jack from Will and Grace, someone like Will.
Hmmmm. Interesting thought...(tmi);)
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Originally posted by Jumpman
(I masterbate to woman at night btw, not men ;)).
Kurt Cobain counts as a man, BTW.
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It\'ll be akward at first, indeed. I have a gay friend, but when I first met him, I tried to avoid him. But after I got to know him, he was alright.
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The second I saw this thread, I knew people would keep making references to the shower. If the guy that is gay wrestled Racer in the shower, Racer would know it ;)
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I have a shit load of gay and lesbian friends, hell my sister is a big lesbo. Personally I like gay people more than normal people, on the whole. They\'re alot of fun, and a hell of a lot more accepting of people\'s differences than "normal" people are.
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homosexuality is not a race, its a decision
and if a friend told me he was gay
then I wouldnt associate with him. People who commit gross sins like this are no friends of mine, and if I let them be my friend they would probably rub off on me. i wouldnt hate him. I would say hi and bye but as far as inviting him over for dinner going and doing stuff together no way
I hate all the Dont smoke advertisments on tv they have for kids. They tell the kids its ok to be around them but when they pass the blunt around dont take it. I know tons of kids who said they passed the first few times but the pressure eventually got to them. Stupid commerical
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so sad, in soooo many different ways.
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Exactly Omen. People that close minded are the only thing that makes me sick. I can\'t begin to tell you how much I pity you Clowd.
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close minded? to homesexuality? you got to be kidding
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Not at all. Why should I be kidding?
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Personally I like gay people more than normal people
lol
"normal people".
It\'s alright omen, tell us what you really think of the gays. ;)
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your opinion
i respet that
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well when I typed Normal people, I started to think.... I don\'t know any normal people, you guys are normal to me, but you all would be considered freaks to most of society. So I guess society would be considered normal, to society, thus I meant that I like gay people more than I do most of society.........I think I brained my damage
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No, I just found it funny that you were acting as thought you perfectly accepted homosexuals in your life, and then announced that they were not "normal people". Thus making your attempts to sell that you had accepted them appear to be extremely shallow..
..uhm.....
:p?
T\'was just a joke, forget I entered the thread.
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I knew it was a joke Bobo, but it made me relize that there are people on the boards that are...er....stupid, and would think I was a hipocrit.
Either way, I like gay people, as long as they are banished to an island in the Pacific. :D
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Well, I don\'t think anyone should be homosexual...its just not natural. God made Adam and Eve, not Adam and Steve. One of my best friends is a lesbian, and I wish she wouldn\'t be. At first I was cool with it, but then it gets kind of gross. I guess the fact that her girlfriend is a whorish lesbian doesnt help.
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Clowd, shut up.
Originally posted by theomen
I have a shit load of gay and lesbian friends, hell my sister is a big lesbo. Personally I like gay people more than normal people, on the whole. They\'re alot of fun, and a hell of a lot more accepting of people\'s differences than "normal" people are.
Exactly, that\'s kind of what I want. I\'m tired of "normal" people. I find them to be very narrowminded and extremely uninteresting now. I want some different friends.
I just want to be around guys who take it in the bum.
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
I just had a pretty close friend of mine tell me he\'s gay. I was like OMG, in complete shock, I totally never saw it coming at all. He always had girlfriends at school and all the chicks used to love him to death. Its no big deal I suppose, I\'m just still really shocked. It probably won\'t change anything between us, but its just still alittle strange and I think its going to take a while before I come to terms with it. Should I let this come between our friendship? Is it really a choice he can make, or is it just something that your born with?
Whats everyone\'s view on this kinda thing? Please keep in mind this is a sensitive issue and not everyone has your same opinion.
Depends, has he always been gay? If he has and he just told you about it, and you were homies before that then you shouln\'t let it bother you. Unless he told you, sorta like getting you ready, so it won\'t seem weird if he wants to kiss you one day...
Being Gay/Lesbian/Bi is a choice. Depends how you grow up, or where you grow up.
Girls LOVE gay guys. :(
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Originally posted by Clowd
homosexuality is not a race, its a decision
and if a friend told me he was gay
then I wouldnt associate with him. People who commit gross sins like this are no friends of mine, and if I let them be my friend they would probably rub off on me. i wouldnt hate him. I would say hi and bye but as far as inviting him over for dinner going and doing stuff together no way
I hate all the Dont smoke advertisments on tv they have for kids. They tell the kids its ok to be around them but when they pass the blunt around dont take it. I know tons of kids who said they passed the first few times but the pressure eventually got to them. Stupid commerical
Unlike others, I get what you mean. I really don\'t see how those commercials affect kids, other than making them look bad. I mean parents watch that kinda crap, and automatically start thinking their kids could possibly be doing that, and eventually lose trust on the kids.
You can\'t tell people NOT to smoke. If they\'re going to smoke then theyre going to smoke, it\'s a choice we make, not those people.
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There is a gay guy that works in hungry jacks here and I hate it.I don\'t know where his hands have been before he touched my burger.Maybe I\'m a Homophobe but it sickens me to think about it.I don\'t care what they do as long as it\'s nowhere near me.(or my food)
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what if he was a player? maybe he just fingered some skank with herpes, and is now slapping your meat (your hamburger, not your "meat")
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I dont think a dude being gay should change ur friendship. of course ur gunna think different about him since ur human but if hes a true friend it shouldnt matter.
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Originally posted by theomen
what if he was a player? maybe he just fingered some skank with herpes, and is now slapping your meat (your hamburger, not your "meat")
Not to mention the fact that a straight, or gay man has probably been tickling his own timber just before going to work..
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Thanks for all your imput guys.
I went out today with him to the movies, and we disscussed alot of stuff. Its extremely hard what he is doing and I give him all the praise for having such courage. His father has practically dissowned him because of his \'choice\' of lifestyle. I really do feel for him. He is a true friend and I am not going to let this get between us. It was strange at first, but I now realise that just because he is gay, it doesn\'t mean he will automatically try and hit on me.
Clowd - I am a Christian, but I totally dissagree with what you said regarding socialising with him. I have really been thinking about it and I cannot put it against him. The Bible says to be like Christ, and Jesus would certainly not have treated him this way. You hate the sin, not the sinner, but then I just don\'t understand why some people are gay, and some are not.
I mean, its not like you\'d wake up one morning and say \'I want to be gay, and suffer all this persecution from everyone\'. Its hard, it really is, because he is also a Christian, and homosexuality is not approved by God. Its hard, he is really confused and I really do feel for him.
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lucky i dont have any friends that are and i dont no what i would do if they where i wonder if i would notice anything likt that about them
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Racer, your friend is very lucky to have you to be there for him. I would not doubt that there are many more people who come out and get "persecuted" by people who were once considered "friends."
Clowd, I\'m sorry that you feel the way you do. I hope that you can show some compassion for anyone who is closely a part of your life and comes out, especially if it might happen to be one of your own children.
Homosexuality is not contagious. It does not get rubbed off onto people. It\'s like saying all teeny boppers like N*Sync because they talk about that group amongst themselves and like that group because of those conversations when in fact those girls like that group for different reasons and some girls don\'t give a damn about that group even if they participated in the conversation.
I don\'t know if homosexuality is a choice or a chemical imbalance or something one is born with. What I do know about homosexuals are that they\'re just as human as you or me. They have feelings. Words can hurt them just as they can hurt any one of us. Whether their way of life is wrong or immoral, they have the human right to receive the same respect that we would want from them.
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Wtf, who \'chooses\' to be gay?
Clowd, did you \'choose\' to be straight? Unless the thought of naked guys turn you on, I don\'t see how you choose to be anything.
But bleh... we\'re never gonna agree on this. But personally I pity narrowminded people who are so afraid of \'sinners\' and what God \'would think\'... you\'re not really living. IMO of course.
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Originally posted by Jumpman
I kind of want a gay friend for some odd reason.
I\'ve always wanted a midget.:thepimp:
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Thanks for all your imput guys.
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Clowd - I am a Christian, but I totally dissagree with what you said regarding socialising with him. I have really been thinking about it and I cannot put it against him. The Bible says to be like Christ, and Jesus would certainly not have treated him this way. You hate the sin, not the sinner, but then I just don\'t understand why some people are gay, and some are not.
I mean, its not like you\'d wake up one morning and say \'I want to be gay, and suffer all this persecution from everyone\'. Its hard, it really is, because he is also a Christian, and homosexuality is not approved by God. Its hard, he is really confused and I really do feel for him.
Look, Im not a gay basher. I said in my post I would be kind to him but would not associate with he/her I would be nice to the gay person, but as far as having a close relationship with he/her, no way. Your right, I hate the sin, not the sinner.
"Do not be misled, bad association spoils useful habits."
-1 Corinthians 15:33
Humans have freewill. The ability to choose what they want to do. That is why you dont see gay animals.
Take for instance, Richard Hatch from Survivor I. Hes gay. Have you heard what he went through when he was young? Other kids road him like an animal for blocks, and was torchered when he was young.
Gay people are no different from anyone else, its just that when they dont think they fit in with society they try something alternative
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If you are going to look down on gays atleast try to find a decent reason to.
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they\'re anal swabs
good enough reason
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That is why you dont see gay animals.
Actually there are gay animals. One of the only things I\'ve learned in biology class. That and squid tastes funny.
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I personally try not to assosiate with over religious zeliots, who run their lives by a book that takes liberities on a somewhat real character..... but that\'s just me
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That\'s me too.
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Make sure you stay friends with him. Just pretend you dont know he is gay. Pretend like nothing has changed. As long as he doesnt hit on you one day, everything should be smiles.
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Humans have freewill. The ability to choose what they want to do. That is why you dont see gay animals
As Jumpman already pointed out, many animals can be homosexuals. There\'s a certain breed of mouse (it\'s nam escapes me right now) that has the highest rate of homosexuality in the world :cool:
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Please keep in mind this is a sensitive issue and not everyone has your same opinion.
you guys need to respect the wishes of the author
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Originally posted by Bobs_Hardware
Not to mention the fact that a straight, or gay man has probably been tickling his own timber just before going to work..
Thanks for ruining fast food for the rest of my life. :(
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Originally posted by Clowd
I think most of you are a bunch of sickos who want anal swabs for friends
What about lesbians? For some reason, I have this idea that straight men like seeing two women go at it. Obviously those men find nothing wrong with lesbians.
[quote[Look, Im not a gay basher. I said in my post I would be kind to him but would not associate with he/her I would be nice to the gay person, but as far as having a close relationship with he/her, no way. Your right, I hate the sin, not the sinner. [/quote]
That to me sounds like you do hate the sinner as well. It sounds like you\'re not even going to give the person the time of day. Despite the fact that you might say hello to the person, you\'re avoiding him/her and that\'s just rude.
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Once again I dont hate them, I hate their way of life
I would be kind to them etc, but no, I would not make them my friend.
Sorry if that sounds so harsh
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edit
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i edited out of my post so please edit it out of your post
Sorry I let my emotions get the best of me
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I wish we could ship all the people like Clowd to an island. (like the irony?)
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There is more of me then of you
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doesn\'t make it right. only proves that the world is pretty f*cked up
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Do not worry
Most truly I say to you, there will be more of you then of me in the coming years.
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Cloud- Editted it. It\'s your choice to have those views, but this really isn\'t the place to express them
And as for there being more of you than us, I doubt it. There certainly aren\'t where I live. Not even close.
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hmm people with your view may have overtook people with my view already.
wow, the world is going so fast, its hard to keep my feet.
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no, there\'s a load of people in my neck of the woods who share clowds views. Which means I usually have at least on ass kicking a year to deal out in defense for my friends/family. But the difference between people here, is that instead of vocalizing their views, they do hate crime type of things.
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Well, I am generally in a community of progressive people in a generally progressive area. However, I bet it also has something to do with our age difference. I\'m younger, and the view I get is more of the younger people. They are a lot more accepting, because they\'ve grown up being taught to accept gay people more so than people of previous generations. That probably has something to do with it.
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homosexuality is not a race, its a decision
and if a friend told me he was gay
then I wouldnt associate with him. People who commit gross sins like this are no friends of mine, and if I let them be my friend they would probably rub off on me. i wouldnt hate him.
This is the most IGNORANT thing I have heard in along time, espically the "rub off on me". Look, homosexuality does not "rub off" on someone and if you think it does, you are either stupid (which we already know you are ) or (2) weak minded. If you "become" gay, because someone you know is gay, than chances are, you was just looking for a reason to come out of the closet.
What goes on in the bedroom is everyone\'s personal choice. I don\'t care if some old book says its bad or what not. People have one life, live it however you see fit. The only problem is, we get bible thumpers who think they have a clue about the actual world - when in reality they live in their own little space.
With that said - I hope, that with homosexuality becoming more accepted, espically among the younger generations, see\'ing as people like Racer are finding they have friends that are gay, that in maybe 25-30 years, gay bashing will almost be gone. It\'s doubtful, but I\'m hopeful.
With that said, did I mention you are just an idiot if you think it can "rub off" on you?
JUst making sure I mentioned that.
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What do you call 400 gays at the bottom of the ocean?
A good start.
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Are you a Mormon Clowd?
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M4, not funny.
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If someone is not comfortable with someones sexuality then don\'t be friends. To pretend to be someones friend or ignore the fact that someone is gay, and it bothers you does a disservice to them and yourself.
I personally have no problem with it so long as we can get along. If we can\'t I am not going to go to the other extreme, and go out of my way to be their friends or even be nice.
I am also not one for long drawn out talks about someones sexual preference. If a person wants to do that then take it to Oprah or Jerry Springer.
So far as Clowd goes. he is probably a kid still brainwashed by religion. No amount of talking will convince him otherwise. He will either have to go out into an enviroment (a.k.a. college) or stay in his own little world, and hate everything that the bible says is bad.
Rya I briefly glimpsed over your post about lesbians, and I can probably speak for most guys on this. It is not the thought of two women being together, as it is two women being together with one man.
theomen this is one of the few times I disagree with you in your post. Everytime people start talking about things of this nature it tends to make sides. Then when this happens alot of times it spreads into the home, and then the alphamale or alpha-female make these thoughts known and they tend to propogate throughout the family. If everyone left other people alone it would be a great place to live.
Jesus why can\'t everyone just ignore everyone else??????????
Ignorance is bliss!
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Once again, I will say it again, I am a Christian, and do believe in everything that the Bible teaches. But why would someone \'want\' to be gay? Its not as though they wake up one morning and decide \'I think I am going to be gay today and **** men\'. Would you really choose to go through all the persecution and such that comes with it? And how could you simply \'turn off\' your desires for women if you really weren\'t gay?
Its a really difficult subject.
Now, this is a theory I have been coming up with the past day, its probably completely wrong, and is certainly NOT politically correct, so please, don\'t complain and lock the thread because I don\'t necessarily have this opinion, its just something I thought of.
What if it is a birth \'defect\'? Like people are born with deformations, deseases etc such as Downes Syndrome etc. Now, I don\'t mean that your just born that way, like, you are intended to be gay and you are intended to be straight, but what if everyone is intended to be straight when something happens that causes something to go wrong in the process, creating a defect, desease or sickness that isn\'t contagious (do not get angry at me for called homosexuality a desease).
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^^ Since nobody can really explain it, I think your theory could be about right. Since we all know that male and females are meant to have offspring, someone wanting to do it with the same sex is, uh, off track. Not saying that I condemn it - I don\'t care what people do - but one could say that it\'s technically a "fault". And one that you\'re obviously born with... IMO. :)
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Do you think the Bible could be refering to the act of sodomy as apposed to homosexuality (I suppose sodomy doesn\'t necessarily have to be apart of the lifestyle, or does it)???
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The problem with your theory, Racer, is that it only factors in one reason as to why humans can be gay.
It is commonly known that the biggest factor in each of our personality and behvaiours is the environment in which we grew up/live in. Sure some people might be gay from birth, due to a chemical imbalance (although I don\'t believe this has ever been proven?), but most people are effected during the learning stages of their lives. During puberty, and even onwards.
You want a fact? Most men don\'t realize they are gay until they are married and have children. Why is that? Why do they have perfectly good sex and never even realize that it\'s men that mostly interest them?
Why are prisons commonly known to \'turn\' people gay? (although that could be widespread falsities, and/or exageration of the whole sodomy issue).
How do you account for bisexuality?
What if it\'s a problem psychologically, i.e. the person is raped repeatedly, then the only thing he knows or expects is sodomy/sex with men.
Experimentation?
etc, etc.
The biggest factor for every personal trait is your environment. What in the environment? No one knows, and it\'s most likely different for every person.
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Do you think the Bible could be refering to the act of sodomy as apposed to homosexuality (I suppose sodomy doesn\'t necessarily have to be apart of the lifestyle, or does it)???
Yeah racer if we still followed everything in the bible then we would have to Stone adulterers to death…. Thank God for progress
God racer you almost make me embarest about being a Lapsed Roman Catholic.
this is yet another rason why Religion is a bad thing
Look racer it doesn’t matter what it says … just as long as two people love each other.
the REAL question is what’s your problem with gay relationships ?
The day the Catholic church accepts other religions, scientific progress and gays is the day we become one step closer to world peace.
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How can you say that when the Catholic chuch\'s main foundation is the Word Of God?
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oh who about the fact that they wanted to kill a Human for him saying that ,the earth is not the centre of the universe and the fact that the earth revolves around the sun.
Also the Catholic church still has to drop its ban on Contraception despite the world AIDS Pandemic.
Alos the fact that Vatican City\'s banks are used by thy world terrorism and criminals due to the factthat all data on bank accounts are retained. FFS if you want to hide money there is no greater place to put it than the VC banks.
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
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How can you say that when the Catholic chuch\'s main foundation is the Word Of God?
The Bible is writen By HUMANS and as a result Susceptible to human interpretation and bias(hence the writen in gay bashing)
There is more Spin in a Stain Glass window than a PR statement by M$, GWB or Tony Blair
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Originally posted by Rya
M4, not funny.
k
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M4 couldn\'t of you used PM to reply to Rya?
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Why is everybody being a bitch to Clowd. Shit, you people can probably talk the talk but can\'t walk the walk. The only difference is that Clowd was actually honest about it. I wouln\'t be friends with a gay guy too. I wouln\'t treat them any different, but when it came to going to the movies, or parties and stuff like that, I wouln\'t feel right being with them. Call me an ignorant but thats just how I feel.
Ohh, and you don\'t need theories of why people are attracted to the same sex. Gays like men. Who knows why. They all probably have different reasons.
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I\'m bitching at Clowd because I very strongly disagree with what he\'s saying. And not only would I be friends with gay guys, I am friends with gay guys, if that answers your question.
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SirMystiq, with all due respect - you haven\'t been here long enough to know how Clowd acts. We have had MANY heated discussions with that man. Perhaps you\'ll see later what many of us think of him and why.
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not walk the walk? you should see my super bowl party, it\'s homo central :D
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Racer asked for everyone\'s opinion and I said mine.
People then preceeded in calling me a religous fanatic, zealot and idiot for not wanting to be friends with a homosexual.
People at this board are directly assaulting my beliefs in the Bible saying I am "Brain washed" and "stupid" for applying its principles.
Suddenly, what I say is stupid. Others can agree with me but I get called the names etc.
Everything I type on this board is bashed just because the post is under my name.
You people need to drop things that happened in the past between us. Your bias toward me only shows your childish sulking.
I come from the old days, when homesexuality was not a "alternative lifestyle" when Soddom and Gomorrah was hated. Why do you think God destroyed those cities? If he thought homosexuality was OK, then I\'m sure they would be left just fine.
Well, the way the people act at this board is a real shock to me. Because I don\'t believe the way you do I\'m suddenly an idot or brainwashed.
Most certainly I say to you, Capcom, no amount of talking will prove otherwise to me? Because I do not believe what you believe it is automatically wrong?
Shockwaves it is ok for Omen to call me an overrighteous religious zealout but it is not OK for me to voice what I think he is?
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I suggest not speaking as if god was fact.
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Clowd and religion do not belong in the same thread.
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Girls, think about this for a moment. Everyone here agrees that any form of religious fundamentalism is bad. Right? Good. Creationism no longer holds any water, because science has shown that Genisis is not to be taken literally. Execution by stoning is no longer practiced because it is barbaric by today\'s standards. Women have eaqual rights with men and are no longer just comfort dolls who "obey".
You agree with all this. Then why is it so hard to let go of other religious things that are no longer relevant?
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clowd, i didn\'t call you anything. I just said I didn\'t like to associate with such people
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Originally posted by theomen
clowd, i didn\'t call you anything. I just said I didn\'t like to associate with such people
Thats just as bad as him theoman.
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Originally posted by Clowd
Everything I type on this board is bashed just because the post is under my name.
You people need to drop things that happened in the past between us. Your bias toward me only shows your childish sulking.
I don\'t react differently to your posts than I would to anyone else\'s . If someone else said what you did, I\'d be all over them too. I don\'t hate people for their beliefs, only for what they do with them.
I come from the old days, when homesexuality was not a "alternative lifestyle" when Soddom and Gomorrah was hated. Why do you think God destroyed those cities? If he thought homosexuality was OK, then I\'m sure they would be left just fine.
Until I see Provinceton, Mass go up in flames, I give no more credit to this than I would to any other myth. Sure, it could have happened, but I doubt it, and won\'t believe it until I see it happen, or hear it from a reliable source.
Well, the way the people act at this board is a real shock to me. Because I don\'t believe the way you do I\'m suddenly an idot or brainwashed.
Well...yes. It is my personal belief that anyone who holds such views is either ignorant (aka Brainwashed) or an asshole (aka an idiot). Just how I view things though.
Shockwaves it is ok for Omen to call me an overrighteous religious zealout but it is not OK for me to voice what I think he is?
If you are going to make such blanket statements about a group of people as you have not only in this thread, but repeatedly in the past, then I won\'t blame anyone for saying something like that to you. And when did I ever say it was ok for him to insult you but not ok for you to insult him?
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#Racer#, I know I was just trying to show him what he looked like, with his "I don\'t associate with anal swabs", or what ever he called gay people. unofortunetly the irony was lost on some people.
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Good save...
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I think that\'s enough.