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Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: Samwise on January 24, 2003, 10:36:31 AM
Hey...

I was wondering if anyone has heard about a BMW Compact facelift? I heard it would come this summer, but I haven\'t been able to find any pics of it. Would anyone have some more info on this?
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: videoholic on January 24, 2003, 10:46:43 AM
compact?  No clue.  5 series redesign comes out next year.  All I know.
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: Samwise on January 24, 2003, 10:50:27 AM
Do you have the Compact in the States?
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: Tyrant on January 24, 2003, 10:56:51 AM
sammy do u mean the 316i?
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: videoholic on January 24, 2003, 11:00:13 AM
nothing smaller than the 325.  I don\'t even think you can buy the 4 cylinder anymore here in the states.

http://www.bmwusa.com/
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: Samwise on January 24, 2003, 11:10:06 AM
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Originally posted by Tyrant
sammy do u mean the 316i?
No the BMW 3-series Compact... A smaller version of the 3 series. Different exterior, same interior. Same engines (well, up to 325 at least).
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: project86 on January 24, 2003, 11:21:29 AM
I heard about it a while back. I think it was just a rumor in one of my past Motor Trend mags. Other than that I have not heard anything else.
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: project86 on January 24, 2003, 11:23:53 AM
Oops, I was wrong. Here, is this what you were looking for?


http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/story_page/0%2C5744%2C4072649%255E13232%2C00.html
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: Samwise on January 24, 2003, 11:24:57 AM
Just to avoid confusion - this is the Compact I\'m talking about:

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsare2008.8m.com%2Fimages%2Fbmw-3comp.jpg&hash=bf2fcb9dae617a14984d357f0c5124f4c69ee6dc)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cardesignnews.com%2Fevents%2Fgeneva2001%2Ffeatured%2Fbmw-3compact%2Fimages%2Fbmw-3comp02s.jpg&hash=84baf2bca612b7660dd1922f42aebf30a1d88077)
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: luckee on January 24, 2003, 12:53:54 PM
We had something similar not long ago called the 318Ti. The car you posted just looks like a revamped 318Ti. Maybe they are bringing it back.
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: Kurt Angle on January 24, 2003, 01:55:29 PM
I have never liked the compact to be honest, any changes to it will certainly be for the better.
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: Tyrant on January 24, 2003, 10:22:21 PM
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Originally posted by Samwise
Just to avoid confusion - this is the Compact I\'m talking about:

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fsare2008.8m.com%2Fimages%2Fbmw-3comp.jpg&hash=bf2fcb9dae617a14984d357f0c5124f4c69ee6dc)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.cardesignnews.com%2Fevents%2Fgeneva2001%2Ffeatured%2Fbmw-3compact%2Fimages%2Fbmw-3comp02s.jpg&hash=84baf2bca612b7660dd1922f42aebf30a1d88077)


that looks alot like the 316i.

edit- well i just visited the local BMW site and there seems to be several types of compacts, but until now i\'ve only seen the 316i (the old version) on the roads
sammy u can find some pics here (http://www.bmw.com/bmwe/products/automobiles/3er/compact/index.html) (go to the downloads section).
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: shawn9990 on January 24, 2003, 10:48:31 PM
damm that car is H-O-T-T

HOT HOT HOT
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: square_marker on January 24, 2003, 11:05:45 PM
Personally, it just looks like another BMW to me.  Except this one is more round....(if that makes any sense)   Personally, i dont care for the car, although i would be interested to see what it has under the hood.
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: Tyrant on January 25, 2003, 03:45:18 AM
heres another pic i found it is from some euro motor show, the CS1 on the second floor display looks sweet too :).
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: videoholic on January 25, 2003, 04:30:37 AM
It\'s just a coupe with a 4 cylinder in it.  No big whoop.

Is this the hatchback?

I\'d rather have the red car in the back.  :)
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: Samwise on January 25, 2003, 05:41:00 AM
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Originally posted by videoholic
It\'s just a coupe with a 4 cylinder in it.  No big whoop.
I think you\'re confusing yourself. The Compact is like the 3-series. Just a bit smaller. It\'s available with the SAME engines as the 3-series; that is: 316, 318, 320 (and 320d) and finally 325. The 325 being a 6-cylinder of course.

Personally I like the car. I still prefer the ordinary 3-series, but if that is a 10/10, I\'d rate the Compact 9/10 - so naturally I\'d like to own either of them.
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: videoholic on January 25, 2003, 05:43:47 AM
well the only 6 cylinder you listed was the 325.  I didn\'t see it was offered in the 325 so I assumed it was the 4 cylinder.

Although if you ask Luckee, there is nothing wrong with a 4 cylinder.

:)
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: Samwise on January 25, 2003, 05:54:15 AM
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Originally posted by videoholic
well the only 6 cylinder you listed was the 325.
Yeah, that also means it wasn\'t only 4-cylinder engines. :p

Besides, the BMW engine I\'m interested in is still the 320d. :)
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: luckee on January 25, 2003, 09:31:17 AM
Here is a 98\' 318Ti in the states
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa332.g.akamai.net%2Ff%2F332%2F936%2F12h%2Fwww.edmunds.com%2F%2Fpictures%2FVEHICLE%2F1997%2FBMW%2F643%2F000745-E.jpg&hash=769f8cc62d3b24da27888859d74a5f035ce8a257)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fa332.g.akamai.net%2Ff%2F332%2F936%2F12h%2Fwww.edmunds.com%2F%2Fpictures%2FVEHICLE%2F1997%2FBMW%2F643%2F000861-E.jpg&hash=0b863f7cabe14579df7ad3507d01a836618e4bad)


Exterior  
Length: 165.7 in.  Width: 67.3 in.  
Height: 54.8 in.  Weight: 2778 lbs.  
Wheel Base: 106.3 in.  
Interior  
Front Head Room: 38.7 in.  Front Shoulder Room: 54 in.  
Rear Head Room: 37 in.  Rear Shoulder Room: 53.1 in.  
Front Leg Room: 41.1 in.  Rear Leg Room: 32.6 in.  
Luggage Capacity: 15 cu. ft.  Maximum Seating: 5  
 
 Performance Data

 
 
Performance  
Acceleration (0-60 mph): 8.9 sec.  Braking Distance: 127 ft.  
Road Holding Index: .83 g  Base Number of Cylinders: 4  
Base Engine Size: 1.9 liters  Base Engine Type: Inline 4 -1  
Horsepower: 138 hp  Max Horsepower: 6000 rpm  
Torque: 133 ft-lbs.  Max Torque: 4300 rpm  
Drive Type: RWD
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on January 25, 2003, 10:12:14 AM
oohhhh purdy
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: videoholic on January 25, 2003, 10:35:25 AM
I\'m not into the hatchbacks at all.  And the power leave s a lot to be desired.  I\'m sur eit still handles nice though.
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: Samwise on January 26, 2003, 01:10:18 AM
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Originally posted by videoholic
And the power leave s a lot to be desired.
The 325 Compact is only like 0.5 secs from the 330 when it comes to 0-100 kph (0-60 mph). :p

The 320d like I want is also only marginally slower than a 330 when it comes to acceleration from 80-120 kph. And that\'s before I put a different chip in that\'ll up the torgue to some 400 nm. :D
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: videoholic on January 26, 2003, 06:12:04 AM
Chips don\'t do anything in BMWs because they are already tuned to a higher compression.  Until you add a cold air intake, exhaust, etc, the only thing the chip does is pulls off the limiter (Which you probably wouldn\'t have anyway) and increases the redline.


0-60 is .7 different, but believe me, there is a huge difference when driving the thing.  I test drove both, A LOT.  and 325 did nothing for me after driving the 330.  But it\'s like 5-7 grand different.  DOn\'t get me wrong, they both kick ass.
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: Samwise on January 26, 2003, 06:49:24 AM
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Originally posted by videoholic
Chips don\'t do anything in BMWs because they are already tuned to a higher compression.  Until you add a cold air intake, exhaust, etc, the only thing the chip does is pulls off the limiter (Which you probably wouldn\'t have anyway) and increases the redline.
Now you\'re being silly again old man... ;)

The 320d is a turbo engine. Chipping it is very easy and does indeed give a performance boost. :)

Trust me on these things, I know my stuff.
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: videoholic on January 26, 2003, 06:51:59 AM
you said 325, not 320d.

Doh, just noticed you shifted gears on me mid stream.

Yes, you can chip a diesel.  You are correct sir.
Title: BMW Compact facelift?
Post by: GmanJoe on January 26, 2003, 07:05:58 AM
No wonder that show gets so much flack. Even the camera man doesn\'t crud about cars. :p