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Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Unicron! on January 31, 2003, 07:53:45 AM
There have been orders that all Americans should ready their passports or if possible leave SA and Cyprus.Evacuation of bases and embassies might be necessary.
With other words the attack in Iraq have high chances of causing a thread for residents in Cyprus and in Arabian countries.

WAIT!!!I LIVE IN CYPRUS!!
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Post by: luckee on January 31, 2003, 07:56:31 AM
Best of luck that everything turns out well for you friend.
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Post by: ooseven on January 31, 2003, 08:06:34 AM
they could be doing it JUST in case...

i mean didn\'t they put Cyprus on Alert at the start of the last Glulf war ?

if not take care buddy.
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Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on January 31, 2003, 08:10:11 AM
Yep, this war seems to be more dangerous than previous ones. Sadam stated few days ago: Spain and other european countries, which were neutral, are now important objectives in this conflict.
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Post by: Unicron! on January 31, 2003, 08:13:17 AM
And then Bush wonders why there is so much anti-Americanism.They are creating the anti-Americanism.:(
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Post by: ooseven on January 31, 2003, 08:17:00 AM
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Originally posted by Unicron!
And then Bush wonders why there is so much anti-Americanism.They are creating the anti-Americanism.:(


not entriley true...

its most of the work of Islamic Nutters Like Bin Laden (sp? ...Care?)
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Post by: Unicron! on January 31, 2003, 08:20:44 AM
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Originally posted by ooseven


not entriley true...

its most of the work of Islamic Nutters Like Bin Laden (sp? ...Care?)


What in the world are u talking about?There is a lot of anti-Americanism in non islamic countries.Like European countries.Because of USA\'s decisions.You people just dont know it.
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Post by: ooseven on January 31, 2003, 08:23:08 AM
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Originally posted by Unicron!


What in the world are u talking about?There is a lot of anti-Americanism in non islamic countries.Like European countries.Because of USA\'s decisions.You people just dont know it.


Nooo noo nooo buddy :surprised

thats Anti WARism

there is a big Dif.
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Post by: Unicron! on January 31, 2003, 08:37:21 AM
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Originally posted by ooseven


Nooo noo nooo buddy :surprised

thats Anti WARism

there is a big Dif.


Man you dont get it.Because the USA Government makes you think they take decisions for an attack to bring peace, stop supposed threads etc.

When there is such a decision by the USA, in other countries they see their imperialistic intentions, economical interests,lies etc and at the same time the fact they arent taking into concideration(actually not caring) for the consequences their attacks could have on other countries.

You cant see that.Because you live IN the USA.Not OUT the USA.And INSIDE the US they can tell you whatever they want.Thet are the best rhetors.U as an American citizen cant see the whole plot.:(
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Post by: luckee on January 31, 2003, 08:50:58 AM
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Originally posted by Unicron!



You cant see that.Because you live IN the USA.Not OUT the USA.And INSIDE the US they can tell you whatever they want.Thet are the best rhetors.U as an American citizen cant see the whole plot.:(



uhm, he isnt an american citizen.....
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Post by: GigaShadow on January 31, 2003, 08:59:18 AM
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Originally posted by Unicron!


What in the world are u talking about?There is a lot of anti-Americanism in non islamic countries.Like European countries.Because of USA\'s decisions.You people just dont know it.


Go buy your Koran now Unicorn... :rolleyes:
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Post by: Unicron! on January 31, 2003, 08:59:30 AM
My bad.You are right he is from UK.Forgot.
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on January 31, 2003, 09:00:09 AM
As luckee said,  Ooseven isn\'t American. He\'s British, so I think he can see your point. Me as an American, I despise George W. Bush and his war hungry campaign, but hey, that\'s life.
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Post by: GigaShadow on January 31, 2003, 09:01:16 AM
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Originally posted by luckee



uhm, he isnt an american citizen.....


Yeah he lives in the UK - er Scotland to be exact and he is by no means pro war.

By the way great avatar luckee :laughing:
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Post by: Unicron! on January 31, 2003, 09:01:53 AM
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Originally posted by GigaShadow


Go buy your Koran now Unicorn... :rolleyes:


Probably every person against US attacks should buy one huh?

Perhaps I should add THAT I DISLIKE ISLAMISTS!!AND I DO DISLIKE THEM.AND I HOPE THEY LOSE CONTROL OVER PEOPLE!!!

But thats a different matter.Because the primal cause isnt to stop any future thread from Iraq.
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Post by: GigaShadow on January 31, 2003, 09:12:41 AM
Unicron... the US isn\'t your enemy.  That is the primary point I get from your posts on this subject.
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Post by: Unicron! on January 31, 2003, 09:15:52 AM
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Originally posted by GigaShadow


Yeah he lives in the UK - er Scotland to be exact and he is by no means pro war.


Or perhaps it is as simple as he sees the anti-war side of the protests.


The anti-Americanism exists.It doesnt exist as hatred against American people (unlike Islamists).But against the US government.
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Post by: Unicron! on January 31, 2003, 09:18:07 AM
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Unicron... the US isn\'t your enemy.  That is the primary point I get from your posts on this subject.


Its not a direct enemy.Its an indirect thread.And I am universally speaking.

And If you remember well I posted a thread a month or two ago trying to express the possible and unexpected consequences of the attack.

And although this part:You cant see that.Because you live IN the USA.Not OUT the USA.And INSIDE the US they can tell you whatever they want.Thet are the best rhetors.U as an American citizen cant see the whole plot.:( isnt the example of ooseven it should make u atleast to start thinking.
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Post by: mjps21983 on January 31, 2003, 09:20:26 AM
the I see it you hate my government you hate me
The youth these days seem to have no patriotism all they want to do is smoke there crack pipe and live peacefully, peace would be nice, but it will never happen so get over it.

And how the f*ck is Bush war hungry, is there something wrong with wanting to get Hussein out of power??? The anti-war people make it seem like he is taking on all over the persian, have of Asia and all of South America now that would be war hungry and Napoleonic.
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Post by: luckee on January 31, 2003, 09:26:58 AM
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Originally posted by mjps21983
the I see it you hate my government you hate me
The youth these days seem to have no patriotism all they want to do is smoke there crack pipe and live peacefully, peace would be nice, but it will never happen so get over it.

And how the f*ck is Bush war hungry, is there something wrong with wanting to get Hussein out of power??? The anti-war people make it seem like he is taking on all over the persian, have of Asia and all of South America now that would be war hungry and Napoleonic.



blind

yea, nice blanket statement.... :rolleyes:

Maybe b/c he threatend multiple countries with war. maybe when he said if you arent with us u are against us. getting hussein out of power and waging a full front war are two different things.
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Post by: GigaShadow on January 31, 2003, 09:28:17 AM
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Originally posted by Unicron!


Its not a direct enemy.Its an indirect thread.And I am universally speaking.

And If you remember well I posted a thread a month or two ago trying to express the possible and unexpected consequences of the attack.

And although this part:You cant see that.Because you live IN the USA.Not OUT the USA.And INSIDE the US they can tell you whatever they want.Thet are the best rhetors.U as an American citizen cant see the whole plot.:( isnt the example of ooseven it should make u atleast to start thinking.


Yes I remember your post, but I still feel you have nothing to worry about.  Cyprus isn\'t exactly high on the terrorists or Iraq\'s list of targets.  I also have to disagree with your opinion that the US is an indirect threat.  If that is the case what do you consider Iraq?
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Post by: project86 on January 31, 2003, 09:33:17 AM
Unicron! Give it a friggin\' rest man! Wether you like it or not we are coming to get Saddam and the rest of his girl scouts. If your going to be pissed at anybody then maybe you should direct your anger towards the psyco in charge of Iraq, unless of course your just another trrorist. I hope that you can understand, Bush only wants what is best for the free people. If you don\'t like it, too bad.

Oh, and would you like some cheese to go with that whine of yours?

lol
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Post by: Unicron! on January 31, 2003, 09:36:25 AM
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Originally posted by mjps21983
the I see it you hate my government you hate me
The youth these days seem to have no patriotism all they want to do is smoke there crack pipe and live peacefully, peace would be nice, but it will never happen so get over it.


NO.When I see u are not a racist and that its the government that is hiding from u some facts I should hate your goverment more for not letting  u see everything.

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And how the f*ck is Bush war hungry, is there something wrong with wanting to get Hussein out of power??? The anti-war people make it seem like he is taking on all over the persian, have of Asia and all of South America now that would be war hungry and Napoleonic. [/B]


Hey Hussein deserves to lose power.I am not againts that.But as long as there are  high chances of negative consequences and other intentions behind the attack I am against the attack.

If they succeed their intentions you will see a "chopped" SA  and complete control of the US over the black gold.
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Post by: Unicron! on January 31, 2003, 09:39:16 AM
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Originally posted by project86
Unicron! Give it a friggin\' rest man! Wether you like it or not we are coming to get Saddam and the rest of his girl scouts. If your going to be pissed at anybody then maybe you should direct your anger towards the psyco in charge of Iraq, unless of course your just another trrorist. I hope that you can understand, Bush only wants what is best for the free people. If you don\'t like it, too bad.

Oh, and would you like some cheese to go with that whine of yours?

lol


Free people?Palestinians arent free people.
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Post by: GigaShadow on January 31, 2003, 09:44:50 AM
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Originally posted by Unicron!


NO.When I see u are not a racist and that its the government that is hiding from u some facts I should hate your goverment more for not letting  u see everything.



Hey Hussein deserves to lose power.I am not againts that.But as long as there are  high chances of negative consequences and other intentions behind the attack I am against the attack.

If they succeed their intentions you will see a "chopped" SA  and complete control of the US over the black gold.


Now we are racist? :(
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Post by: Unicron! on January 31, 2003, 09:50:25 AM
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Originally posted by GigaShadow


Now we are racist? :(


I SAID I DONT HATE U BECAUSE YOU ARENT RACISTS.UNLIKE THE ISLAMISTS!!!!

GOD MOST OF U ARE AMERICANS IN HERE AND I DO NOT HATE A SINGLE PERSON OF YOU!!!!
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Post by: luckee on January 31, 2003, 09:55:25 AM
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Originally posted by Unicron!


I SAID I DONT HATE U BECAUSE YOU ARENT RACISTS.UNLIKE THE ISLAMISTS!!!!

 


Nice blanket statement. The same could be said about any race or religious group no?
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Post by: GigaShadow on January 31, 2003, 09:55:52 AM
No offense Unicorn, but its your English that has us confused half of the time.  You really get worked up on this subject I don\'t think you are as careful with your grammar ;)
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Post by: Unicron! on January 31, 2003, 10:32:55 AM
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Originally posted by luckee


Nice blanket statement. The same could be said about any race or religious group no?


Visit a country like SA where the majority are islam fanatics and you ll get the picture.


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Originally posted by GigaShadow
No offense Unicorn, but its your English that has us confused half of the time.  You really get worked up on this subject I don\'t think you are as careful with your grammar ;)


I get a headache when I have to reply back to more than one persons at a time after very short brakes.:)

Not to mention I have only 4 hours of sleep everyday.
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Post by: luckee on January 31, 2003, 10:40:24 AM
that doesnt change what you or I said. Just b/c alot are, doesnt make all "ISLAMISTS" racist as you are proclaiming.
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Post by: SwifDi on January 31, 2003, 11:00:33 AM
The next one to call Muslims, Islamists..... *shivers*
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Post by: GigaShadow on January 31, 2003, 11:04:55 AM
Sounds like a cross between the two words "Islamic Fundamentalists".  Give Unicorn some credit though, how many of us could converse on a foreign language message board?
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Post by: Ace on January 31, 2003, 12:02:41 PM
It is kind of sad the amount anti-US sentiment there is out there and abroad. I\'ll tell Unicron!, some of your statements pale in comparison to the rhetoric that is spoken by some of our own citizens. I guess they get their info from the same place you do.

Ace
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Post by: videoholic on January 31, 2003, 12:11:53 PM
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Post by: luckee on January 31, 2003, 12:13:08 PM
Just like most stereotypes, those feelings dont exist for absolutly no reason.

great pic vid :D
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Post by: Ace on January 31, 2003, 12:14:01 PM
I wish it it was all about oil. I would love to pay ten cents a gallon.

We could also rape the rest of the world with insanely high oil prices.

Ace
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Post by: luckee on January 31, 2003, 12:50:12 PM
Im glad it isnt, that would open a new can of worms and spread more US hatred, and deservingly so.
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Post by: Coredweller on January 31, 2003, 01:15:56 PM
That\'s it.  I\'m putting Giga, Ace, and mjps into the Axis of Evil®  See how you like being internationally humiliated.  :p

BTW, if you want to read a good article about European anti-americanism, try this one:

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030210&s=alterman1

Heh heh, if you want to keep linking to FOXNEWS Giga, I\'m going to link to The Nation.  :D
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Post by: GigaShadow on January 31, 2003, 01:40:01 PM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
That\'s it.  I\'m putting Giga, Ace, and mjps into the Axis of Evil®  See how you like being internationally humiliated.  :p

BTW, if you want to read a good article about European anti-americanism, try this one:

http://www.thenation.com/doc.mhtml?i=20030210&s=alterman1

Heh heh, if you want to keep linking to FOXNEWS Giga, I\'m going to link to The Nation.  :D


At least Fox is "fair and balanced" ;)

Honestly, The Nation is way out there compared to Fox.  That article is written mostly about France and Germany with some examples of protests sponsored by splinter movements (ie. Italy\'s Communist Party).  In addition the article states most "anti american sentiment" is found in the Middle East and Central Asian nations.  Anyway to make it short... the title of the article alone put me off.. "USA Qui! Bush Non!" ... The French :rolleyes:
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Post by: Psycomantis101 on January 31, 2003, 01:52:04 PM
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Originally posted by Unicron!


Man you dont get it.Because the USA Government makes you think they take decisions for an attack to bring peace, stop supposed threads etc.

When there is such a decision by the USA, in other countries they see their imperialistic intentions, economical interests,lies etc and at the same time the fact they arent taking into concideration(actually not caring) for the consequences their attacks could have on other countries.

You cant see that.Because you live IN the USA.Not OUT the USA.And INSIDE the US they can tell you whatever they want.Thet are the best rhetors.U as an American citizen cant see the whole plot.:(


Its true, Was american citezens are basicly BRAINWASHED into thinking that this war is FOR THE SAKE OF OUR NATION. It realy isnt.
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Post by: Samwise on January 31, 2003, 01:53:28 PM
Great article Coredweller, lots of good points in it. Anyone (American or not) saying Europe is "anti-American" should read it even if it\'s long. You might learn something. Or at least think about the points told.
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Post by: GigaShadow on January 31, 2003, 02:01:35 PM
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Originally posted by Psycomantis101


Its true, Was american citezens are basicly BRAINWASHED into thinking that this war is FOR THE SAKE OF OUR NATION. It realy isnt.


I think the leftist brainwashing has effected your spelling as well as your judegement. :D

No one is brainwashed, its simple opinion after weighing in with all the facts.  A majority of Americans feel Saddam should forcibly be removed from power since he does pose a threat to this country.  Just wait until Wednesday when Powell goes to the UN and lays out the facts.
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Post by: GigaShadow on January 31, 2003, 02:12:44 PM
Oh I just saw this in The Nation article...

"Eric Alterman would like to thank the Investigative Fund of the Nation Institute and the German Marshall Fund (US) for their financial support of his research in Europe."

Hmmm I like his funding source... I bet he was paid per word.
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Post by: Coredweller on January 31, 2003, 02:47:20 PM
Eh?  What are you trying to say?  If the article\'s too long for you, then maybe you should stick with FoxNews sound bytes.

At least he cites his funding source, unlike rightwing columnists.  If they cited funding, it would usually be GE, Raytheon, Monsanto, Chrysler, etc etc.
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Post by: luckee on January 31, 2003, 02:55:01 PM
Not brainwashed?

Funny how soon ppl leave issues alone.

MOre americans now view Saddam as more of a threat than Bin Laden. No less than a few months ago, that wasnt the case.
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Post by: GigaShadow on January 31, 2003, 02:57:44 PM
The guy is a Clinton groupie.  Bush "neoconservative"?  Hardly.  

At least Fox has some liberals on their payroll, unlike the Nation and the Guardian - the latter of which he uses as a source!  The article was a rehash of old news (ie. the German politicans remark of comparing Bush to Hitler) and liberal viewpoints that have been stated over and over again.  It was about 4 pages too long in that regard.  

The point remains... why should the US let countries like France dicatate our foreign policy?  Bush does what is best for the US, who gives a jack what France or Germany think (Besides the French and the Germans)?  I certainly don\'t.  The French are only concerned about one thing, their trade with Iraq and how it will effect it and they hide it under the veil of humanitarianism.
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Post by: GigaShadow on January 31, 2003, 03:00:52 PM
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Originally posted by luckee
Not brainwashed?

Funny how soon ppl leave issues alone.

MOre americans now view Saddam as more of a threat than Bin Laden. No less than a few months ago, that wasnt the case.


Of course they do luckee... no one has seen bin Laden in quite some time.  After 9/11 Bush clearly stated Iraq was a terrorist state, so its no suprise that something was going to be done about him.
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Post by: luckee on January 31, 2003, 03:03:05 PM
They didnt see him b4 the attacks either, so thats kind of a moot point.

Yup, he did, he also named others, why arent we gonna goto war with them? Or just not yet? When and if he does, when does it stop?
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Post by: GigaShadow on January 31, 2003, 03:05:42 PM
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Originally posted by luckee
They didnt see him b4 the attacks either, so thats kind of a moot point.

Yup, he did, he also named others, why arent we gonna goto war with them? Or just not yet? When and if he does, when does it stop?


Good question.  I don\'t feel Iran is a threat... though it was listed.  However, I do feel something needs to be done about N. Korea, but that is going to be a totally differnt affair than Iraq is.
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Post by: luckee on January 31, 2003, 03:14:36 PM
I just dont like the idea of our guys(and the allied soldiers) getting killed b/c of his power trips. I can understand when its absolutly necesary for us to fight, but IMO that time just hasnt come yet, for an country.

He talks big, but he gets on airforce one when the shit hits the fan.

Nkorea actually scares me b/c of their pride. We will have another world war b/c I have a feeling they wont give up easily at all.
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Post by: Titan on January 31, 2003, 06:17:54 PM
I too am concerned about N.K. They got nuclear missiles pointed right at us if I\'m not mistaken. If not pointed at us then ready for launch. But then again, it would be a quick war against them because they are on the verge of collapse.
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Post by: SirMystiq on January 31, 2003, 06:36:25 PM
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Originally posted by Unicron!


Man you dont get it.Because the USA Government makes you think they take decisions for an attack to bring peace, stop supposed threads etc.

When there is such a decision by the USA, in other countries they see their imperialistic intentions, economical interests,lies etc and at the same time the fact they arent taking into concideration(actually not caring) for the consequences their attacks could have on other countries.

You cant see that.Because you live IN the USA.Not OUT the USA.And INSIDE the US they can tell you whatever they want.Thet are the best rhetors.U as an American citizen cant see the whole plot.:(


I can!
Ok, im going to put this in a sequence of events.
1.)  Osama Bin Laden plans an attack on the US.
2.) The US knows about the attacks being planned for 7 years(I think, My friend told me that im not sure)
3.) The US does nothing to stop them.
4.) 9/11 happens.
5.) The US is NOW worried about security.
6.) The US promises to catch Bin Laden and invades Afghanistan.
7.) The US finally admits they knew about the attacks, but way after the attacks. All of the people here had already become 100% patriotic, and really don\'t make a big deal about it. Everyone makes mistakes right?
8.)The Afghanistan government is over-throwed and the US puts in a "new" government.
9.)Bin Laden is still alive and threatens the US again.
10.)Bush wants a war with Iraq, b/c he claims they\'re a threat (which they are im not saying they arent), but he also is extremely sure they got nukes and chemical weapons, that basically what he is doing, emphisizing that chemical weapons are very destructive and stuff, People overlook the fact that no chemical weapons have been found. All he has are accusations.

Wait there is something missing.........
hmm.......ohh yes the, Bin Laden caught/killed and the annoucement that we don\'t have to worry about him anymore part of the sequence. The point here is that Bin Laden was the prime subject, whatever happened to him? Hussein(sp?) has not done anything to threaten the US except maybe dislike it. Bin Laden has, yet Bush has seemed to forgot about him. If Bush really wants to destroy terrorism, shouln\'t he finish one job before getting more people killed? Bush should get over the fact that he thinks this country is going to win every war, he is overflowing with confidence and that is something that could get this country destroyed. America might be great, but I don\'t think its great enough to have 2 different wars.
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Post by: Titan on January 31, 2003, 06:39:31 PM
Bin Laden is probably dead but if the government admits it, then the whole war is over. But who knows. Whenever someone thinks he\'s dead, a new tape of his gets in the hands of the CIA.
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Post by: luckee on January 31, 2003, 08:24:29 PM
he is about as dead as you or I.
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Post by: Tyrant on January 31, 2003, 11:46:59 PM
their is gonna be a war wether we like it or not, and just like last time i\'ll be waiting for a couple of missiles to be be fired towards my country, only this time i dont think that there gonna miss their targets.
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Post by: Samwise on February 01, 2003, 02:54:39 AM
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Originally posted by Tyrant
their is gonna be a war wether we like it or not, and just like last time i\'ll be waiting for a couple of missiles to be be fired towards my country, only this time i dont think that there gonna miss their targets.
Damn... I hope you\'ll be alright. :(
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Post by: Unicron! on February 01, 2003, 06:22:40 AM
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Originally posted by luckee
that doesnt change what you or I said. Just b/c alot are, doesnt make all "ISLAMISTS" racist as you are proclaiming.


I am talking about the islamists like in SA, Afganistan etc which are fanatics.Outside countries like Emirates and Oman(which are being hated by the fanatics).They have so many differences its as if they are from a different religion.

BTW:I have friends from Palestine.Which ofcourse are muslims.







And SirMystiq\'s post sums up some of the facts and the conclusion very well
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Post by: Ace on February 01, 2003, 02:47:58 PM
SirMystiq,

Is it your opinion that GWB new that two planes were going to fly into the two towers and did nothing to stop the attack?

Ace
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Post by: SirMystiq on February 01, 2003, 03:05:14 PM
Not only Bush the whole people that are supposed to protect this country:
Im not the only one

http://www.911pi.com/honneger.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0601-01.htm
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/jan2002/sept-j16.shtml
>>> http://www.halturnershow.com/FEMA.htm
http://www.infowars.com/resources.html
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: GigaShadow on February 01, 2003, 03:26:45 PM
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
Not only Bush the whole people that are supposed to protect this country:
Im not the only one

http://www.911pi.com/honneger.htm
http://www.commondreams.org/views02/0601-01.htm
http://www.wsws.org/articles/2002/jan2002/sept-j16.shtml
>>> http://www.halturnershow.com/FEMA.htm
http://www.infowars.com/resources.html


none of those are credible... more conspiracy theories... SirMystiq has the IQ of a gnat. :rolleyes:
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: videoholic on February 01, 2003, 03:27:27 PM
Thank God for free speach.  I\'d hate for this crap to be kept from us.
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Ace on February 01, 2003, 03:29:56 PM
I\'m glad you guys commented on those links. I figured they\'d speak for themselves.

Time for some beer!!!!

Ace
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: SirMystiq on February 01, 2003, 03:59:26 PM
I bet the Gnat has a bigger penis than you Giga.

Newayz, What do you mean not credible. So unless the information is coming from a news website that reports only what the government says is true is credible?

US goverment + "True" Statements = ZERO credibility
..but since you asked so nicely

http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/08/28/graham.access.cnna/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/09/18/intelligence.hearings/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/05/16/gephardt.transcript/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/08/05/time.history/index.html
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: square_marker on February 01, 2003, 05:13:48 PM
It won\'t be long now.
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: luckee on February 01, 2003, 06:42:59 PM
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Originally posted by Ace
SirMystiq,

Is it your opinion that GWB new that two planes were going to fly into the two towers and did nothing to stop the attack?

Ace


Portugal knew. My sisters fiancee is portugese(sp?) and his family was calling and asking if anything had happend b/c they heard we were being threatend by terrorist attacks in a big city. Thats all that I know was said.

They probably had intel and thought nothing of it since they intercept alot of threats. Plus they really have no real way of knowing exactly what would be hit and how.
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Titan on February 01, 2003, 07:19:22 PM
I had a Jahova\'s witness come to my house to ask me about he war. Then they were saying how Jesus was the source of peace. I told them there will never be peace. Then they handed me pamphlets then went back to watching FOX news and watch more on the Columbia explosion.
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Event Horizon on February 01, 2003, 08:10:56 PM
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
I bet the Gnat has a bigger penis than you Giga.

Newayz, What do you mean not credible. So unless the information is coming from a news website that reports only what the government says is true is credible?

US goverment + "True" Statements = ZERO credibility
..but since you asked so nicely

http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/08/28/graham.access.cnna/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/09/18/intelligence.hearings/index.html
http://www.cnn.com/2002/US/05/16/gephardt.transcript/index.html

http://www.cnn.com/2002/ALLPOLITICS/08/05/time.history/index.html


The US government receives threats and warnings all the time. They can\'t act on all of them.
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Unicron! on February 02, 2003, 06:30:09 AM
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Originally posted by Event Horizon


The US government receives threats and warnings all the time. They can\'t act on all of them.


What similar thread have they received and stopped so far?And how many threads did they receive in September?Atleast an order to evacuate?
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Ace on February 02, 2003, 06:35:19 AM
The US, and other governments, probably has hundreds upon hundreds of threats every year. To think they will chase every single one is unreasonable. I wonder how many are stopped.

Ace
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Event Horizon on February 02, 2003, 09:16:39 AM
If Bush was looking for an excuse to have a war with Iraq, he wouldn\'t be blowing up buildings full of rich white people.

He would more likely have staged a shoot out between FBI agents and guys dressed as Arabs near a van on a road in upstate New York. They would have a small atomic bomb placed in the van, and they would replace the doubles with actual suspected terrorists that they have kidnapped and killed earlier. And they would say the terrorists got the bomb from Iraq. You see? They would have achieved the same objective without losing 127 billion dollars. Now stfu, you stupid conspiracy monkeys.
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: CHIZZY on February 02, 2003, 09:23:58 AM
^^^^^^^^^^

:laughing:
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Unicron! on February 02, 2003, 10:21:19 AM
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Originally posted by Event Horizon
If Bush was looking for an excuse to have a war with Iraq, he wouldn\'t be blowing up buildings full of rich white people.

He would more likely have staged a shoot out between FBI agents and guys dressed as Arabs near a van on a road in upstate New York. They would have a small atomic bomb placed in the van, and they would replace the doubles with actual suspected terrorists that they have kidnapped and killed earlier. And they would say the terrorists got the bomb from Iraq. You see? They would have achieved the same objective without losing 127 billion dollars. Now stfu, you stupid conspiracy monkeys.


:rolleyes: The answer is as simple as that.....They didnt think of any ideas like yours.And America as a super power and with "smart" "powerfull" men behind it They can think of better less obvious more convincing ways.Or you admit they are stupid enough to try your above ideas if they want to hide something?
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Event Horizon on February 02, 2003, 10:48:54 AM
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Originally posted by Unicron!


:rolleyes: The answer is as simple as that.....They didnt think of any ideas as yours.And America as a super power and with "smart" "powerfull" men behind it They can think of better less obvious more convincing ways.Or you admit they are stupid enough to try your above ideas if they want to hide something?


Should I be surprised that my post went over your head? Nah. The funny thing is if the attack on the WTC in 1993 were successful, people like you would have immediately pegged it as a conspiracy of the US government.
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Unicron! on February 02, 2003, 10:52:05 AM
How would u know if back then I would have immediately pegged it as a conspiracy of the US government?
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Event Horizon on February 02, 2003, 10:53:34 AM
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Originally posted by Unicron!
How would u know if back then I would have immediately pegged it as a conspiracy of the US government?


You\'re doing it now. Why not then?
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Unicron! on February 02, 2003, 11:05:27 AM
Why not NOT?
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Event Horizon on February 02, 2003, 11:07:27 AM
Nevermind. You win. I\'m through arguing.
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Unicron! on February 02, 2003, 11:15:47 AM
Good
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Living-In-Clip on February 02, 2003, 12:25:06 PM
*thinks of closing thread*
Nah, I am starting to enjoy the various conspiracy theorys.

On that note: I think George W. Bush blew up that shuttle....Damn him!
Er..no..wait...it was Osama!
Ah, hell, they\'re in cahoots with each other..

/me gets arrested by the goverment on that note...
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: luckee on February 02, 2003, 02:27:19 PM
yea..it was a terrorist with a shoulder S.A.M.

nevermind the fact that they would only reach 100,000 feet in the air..and not very accuratly..but thats what happend!!
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Titan on February 02, 2003, 02:41:03 PM
Or they planted a bomb in the cargo bay. Hell, the pilot was a terrorist themself on a suicide run :rolleyes: I don\'t listen to any conspiracy theories. The WTC was attacked both times by Osama. He admitted it. There is no conspiracy through the US government.
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on February 02, 2003, 03:01:46 PM
Silly, of course there is conspiracies.  We just haven\'t been able to expose them.  The government would never be totally honest about anything.  The WTC Bombing was not a conspiracy, and I hope to god the Columbia shuttle is not a conspiracy, but honestly, how can you tell?
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: luckee on February 02, 2003, 03:46:50 PM
you cant which is why the exist. ppl just remember the scandles our government has taken part in so ppl think about it now.
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Toxical on February 02, 2003, 08:43:55 PM
America is evil because it tries to be the police of the world, and yet turns the other way when its master Israel does something ****ed up.

The UN is a ****ing joke, all these stupid resolutions they draft there are stupid.  The UN drafts a resolution for isreal to back down from palestine, Isreal ignores it, with the backing and veeeeto power of its "closest friend, and ass kisser" america.


why doesn\'t America concentrate on the idiot canadian polititians that let these goat-****ers into Canada in the first place?

There are millions of Euro-trash people waiting to get to canada, so why is canada allowing hundreds of thousands of these towel head mofo into its country?
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Tyrant on February 02, 2003, 10:44:20 PM
toxical do u belong to some supremesist group or something? (just a question)
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Toxical on February 02, 2003, 10:53:54 PM
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Originally posted by Tyrant
toxical do u belong to some supremesist group or something? (just a question)


why?  do you want to label me an anti-"fill in the blank" ?
no i do not belong to no ****ing nazi\'s or other stupid ass groups of people that think their dicks are too small so they kills some blacks, homos or other fill in the blank minority.


I just say it how i see it. **** political correctness.
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: luckee on February 02, 2003, 11:11:17 PM
toxical may be blunt, but he makes a few good points.
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Tyrant on February 02, 2003, 11:32:19 PM
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Originally posted by Toxical


why?  do you want to label me an anti-"fill in the blank" ?
no i do not belong to no ****ing nazi\'s or other stupid ass groups of people that think their dicks are too small so they kills some blacks, homos or other fill in the blank minority.


I just say it how i see it. **** political correctness.


a simple "no" would\'ve been good ;).
i hope u hadent taken my question the wrong way, coz like luckee said u do make some pretty good and valid points, its just some of the terminology u use, that made me wonder.
i hope you were not offended in anyway, and if u were i\'m sorry :).

oh and btw i dont mind the "towel head" comments but the "goat f******" one is completely unsubtantiated. coz if i wanted to get laid i would sure as hell wouldnt go looking for a goat or a camel for that matter ;).

:)
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: ooseven on February 03, 2003, 12:44:01 AM
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Originally posted by Toxical

There are millions of Euro-trash people waiting to get to canada, so why is canada allowing hundreds of thousands of these towel head mofo into its country?


Towel head mofo ?

a tad Raciest don\'t you think.
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Toxical on February 03, 2003, 01:03:21 PM
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Originally posted by ooseven


Towel head mofo ?

a tad Raciest don\'t you think.


yeah, a bit, but hey, if they can\'t live in peace... and want to bomb some grandma in a market... the label applies, bunch of animals.
Title: Bush gives orders for evacuation or to be ready for evacuation of bases and embassies
Post by: Toxical on February 03, 2003, 01:10:42 PM
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Originally posted by Tyrant


a simple "no" would\'ve been good ;).
i hope u hadent taken my question the wrong way, coz like luckee said u do make some pretty good and valid points, its just some of the terminology u use, that made me wonder.
i hope you were not offended in anyway, and if u were i\'m sorry :).

oh and btw i dont mind the "towel head" comments but the "goat f******" one is completely unsubtantiated. coz if i wanted to get laid i would sure as hell wouldnt go looking for a goat or a camel for that matter ;).

:)


I do not get offended by your free speech. You got the right to say what you like, and i\'m fine with it.   :smokin:

My opinions are mine, and i\'m sure some people don\'t agree with it, and that\'s fine. They have a right to question my words, and to understand the meaning behind my words even.

I do not hate people from the middle east, or any other place, i just dont\' agree with their governments, or our government, terrorist leaders, and any other dumb idiot that cause pain and loss on this planet.

I also do not agree with ass-kissing polititians that like one group of people better over another because that group of people can afford to write fatter checks when their campaigns begin for re-election.

As for the goat joke, :laughing:  just something to call them for being animals. I dont\' see green-peace blowing up markets or buildings (yet ;) )

If they have a beef with something, then they should declare war, or at least keep their terrorist acts to military targets and not civilians. IMO.