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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: videoholic on February 02, 2003, 03:20:18 PM
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Heh, I found this about the origin of French Toast. It\'s American!! Damn, we rock!! We are so good that we name things after other countries because we feel sorry for their sorry asses.
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Q: What is the origin and history of French toast?
- Kathy F., Newtown, PA
A: There are a number of conflicting stories about the origin of the rich breakfast dish that Americans call "French toast." Most recipes agree that French toast is made by dipping bread into a mixture of milk and egg, then frying it until it is golden brown.
Almost any kind of bread can be used to make French toast, including rich, eggy breads like challah or brioche, airy baguettes or standard white sandwich bread. French toast is usually topped with maple syrup, jelly or powdered sugar. Fruity and even savory toppings are becoming popular as well.
Although the exact origin of French toast is unclear, sources agree that the dish does not stem from classical French cuisine. Toast it may be, but "French" it is not!
An early source, "The Accomplisht Cook" by R. May (1660), has a recipe for "French Toasts" which calls for French bread sliced and toasted, then soaked in wine, sugar and orange juice. While this sounds delicious, it\'s a pretty far reach from our modern breakfast favorite.
One version of the story is that the dish was invented in 1724 at a roadside tavern near Albany, N.Y. According to the tale, the tavern owner, Joseph French, gave the dish his name.
French-speaking Cajun cooks in Louisiana make "pain perdu" or "lost bread" with day-old bread, and this Cajun tradition also lays claim to the origin of French toast in this country.
It\'s possible that each of these stories is true in its own way, considering that home cooks around the world have always looked for ways to use leftover food, and bread, eggs and milk are often close at hand. The leap from day-old bread to delicious breakfast comfort food is not
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French Toast sounds so good, its a shame my stomach ulcer would toss it right back up.
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who cares who made its its a damn good discovery =]
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Pie a la mode was invented right here in Albany, NY :)
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Hamburgers are the symbol of America (well almost ;)).
But Hamburgers were first made in Rome.. So they\'re Italian.
Meatballs are not Swedish, they are (IIRC) Turkish and were brought back here by King Charles XII. Or maybe I have them mixed up with kåldolmar.. Anyways meatballs are not Swedish! Shock of the year anyone?
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Thick crusty loaf toasted with marmite
*drolls*
I\'ll have that for breaky me thinks.
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And apple pies are originally from England.
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But this brings up a new question :
In France, do they call it "toast" or "French Toast"? What about French Fries? Do the French call it just "fries"? :p
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Apple pies aren\'t called England Pies. Or English Pies. Now if you tell me Apple Pie aren\'t made with Apples, now that would shock me.
Don\'t they call French Fries Chips?
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And "buffalo wings" were called that \'cos they were invented in Buffalo, not because they are made FROM buffalo.....
ummm yeah......
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Originally posted by CHIZZY
And "buffalo wings" were called that \'cos they were invented in Buffalo, not because they are made FROM buffalo.....
ummm yeah......
You learn something new everday, I seriously thought they were from buffalo.... the animal.
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I take french...
They like sewers.
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And ketchup and spaghetti is Chinese and chop suey is not...
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Originally posted by Ashford
And ketchup and spaghetti is Chinese and chop suey is not...
Niether is the Fortune Cookie
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Really?
Catsup...
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Originally posted by CHIZZY
And "buffalo wings" were called that \'cos they were invented in Buffalo, not because they are made FROM buffalo.....
ummm yeah......
Yep. THe Bartender was asked by one of his patrons to cook something up. With just Tabasco sauce and chicken wings, I fired the chicken wings, then added the hot sauce. The patron liked it but thought it was too hot. Bartender pours some blue cheese to keep the flame down. Other patrons ordered it and he had a hit. The tavern or bar still makes the "Original Buffalo Wings" (of course, after adding a few ingredients to make their own unique hot sauce). And they will send you their original Buffalo wings through their website. Absolutely expensive.
I prefer Cluck-U wings, personally. :)
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What about jo-jo\'s or Potato wedges...
where deh from?
And hot dogs.... why hot "dogs"..?
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What do they call Italian Ice in Italy? Just ice? Then what do they call ice?!?!!?!
It\'s driving me CRAZY!!! :nut:
(not really)
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They were called Red Hots for a while. And they were once just sausages til someone made buns for them. With buns, people could hold their "red hot" without any oily dribble. Then someone called them Red Hot Dogs....coz they kinda looked like Duch-Hounds.
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Duch hounds?
wtf is that a worm...?
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Originally posted by videoholic
Apple pies aren\'t called England Pies. Or English Pies. Now if you tell me Apple Pie aren\'t made with Apples, now that would shock me.
Don\'t they call French Fries Chips?
no we use both names
French Fries = long thin cut.
Chips = Big & chunky
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and the peanut is neither a pea nor a nut.
oh wait, it is a nut. (If you guess what animated tv show that was from, you get a peanut)
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Is it just me or has there been a “increase” in French bashing which started around the same time the French government decided to speak out about the “possible” war on Iraq.
Either way if this trend continues Threads like this will not only be Closed but deleted.
Remember your all VERY quick to cry if someone gets All Anti-American.
/me feels sick in having to defend the French
ooseven “that’s it I am going for a shower I feel dirty…like a Frenchman :o”
NB
British joke because we say that all French people hardly wash as well as being self-righteous and pompous.
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Yep. THe Bartender was asked by one of his patrons to cook something up. With just Tabasco sauce and chicken wings, I fired the chicken wings, then added the hot sauce. The patron liked it but thought it was too hot. Bartender pours some blue cheese to keep the flame down. Other patrons ordered it and he had a hit. The tavern or bar still makes the "Original Buffalo Wings" (of course, after adding a few ingredients to make their own unique hot sauce). And they will send you their original Buffalo wings through their website. Absolutely expensive.
I prefer Cluck-U wings, personally. :)
http://www.anchorbar.com
This place is 5 minutes from my house. I sent vid a bottle of their sauce for xmas....
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Originally posted by ooseven
Is it just me or has there been a “increase” in French bashing which started around the same time the French government decided to speak out about the “possible” war on Iraq.
Either way if this trend continues Threads like this will not only be Closed but deleted.
Remember your all VERY quick to cry if someone gets All Anti-American.
/me feels sick in having to defend the French
ooseven “that’s it I am going for a shower I feel dirty…like a Frenchman :o”
NB
British joke because we say that all French people hardly wash as well as being self-righteous and pompous.
Oh go away ooseven. This has nothing to do with bashing the french. It has everything to do with food name for people it has nothing to do with.
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Originally posted by videoholic
Oh go away ooseven. This has nothing to do with bashing the french. It has everything to do with food name for people it has nothing to do with.
hey relax...:eek:
i mean its not like you have to pay the French royalties everytime you use the word or make French toast.
look its quite simple what you do is Rename it Joseph French toast .
that way you honour the man how invented this tasty snack as well as getting one over on the French.
Not bad killing two birds with one stone ehhh
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I played with sammy\'s swedish meatballs.
(yes, I know he\'s not swedish... this post is complete spam in order to get a picture near my name....)
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can\'t we just rename French Toast to Steve Ramos? Doesn\'t that sound better. "Excuse me waitress, but do you serve Steve Ramos?" "Mmmmm, this Steve Ramos is delectible"
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It\'s a miracle that France could still be around after all the losses they\'ve taken. :p
Mindless French bashing removed by ooseven
please Gman remember that this topic is about the naming of "french Toast" and not a excusse to call into question France\'s Role in current affairs.
After all WTF has the 100 year war to do with a incorectly named tasty snack.
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Yeah, make up your own thread to rag on the french.
Don\'t bring my quality breakfast thread down!!
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Originally posted by videoholic
Yeah, make up your own thread to rag on the french.
Don\'t bring my quality breakfast thread down!!
its not only a bread/egg Breakfast snack...its also a kick @ss lunch too... :D
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Originally posted by videoholic
Yeah, make up your own thread to rag on the french.
Don\'t bring my quality breakfast thread down!!
Shut up, old man. If I made my own thread, 00seven would lock it - despite the fact that it\'s about French History. Remember how he locked this one? ;) So....this way, in case he does lock it - YOU, can unlock it again. :D
Smart!
p.s.
i like to moan like some big Girl trying to have here period !
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Haven\'t read the rest of the thread..... BUT
Pancakes>French toast :D
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
I am Such a Big Idiot !
what is that what you meant to say ?:mad:
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Originally posted by ooseven
what is that what you meant to say ?:mad:
This :
Hoist by Their Own Petain
Francophiles, beware.
So, after 58 years, the French have decided that they prefer Vichy after all. (News article - "France and Germany Celebrate 40th Anniversary of \'Friendship\' Treaty" see site at: http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?...644FA820FA1332C )
It\'s hardly surprising. When the Vichy regime was in power, one could pretty much do what one wanted when it came to those troublesome Jews. Yes, there were shortages and lots of Germans around, but that\'s not much different from the present. Plus, just like today, the truly intellectual could take pride in the notion that they were part of something larger than a piddling little nation state. And really, "Liberté, égalité, fraternité!" is just so passe. Vichy knew that too, which is why they were replaced with Travail (work), Famille (family), and Patrie (fatherland).
Not that those are any better. The modern Vichian motto might as well be ignorez, retarde, apaisez. Ignore, delay and appease describe the French character as well as anything else, excepts perhaps "Unions, Vacations and Occasional Showers!".
You can hardly blame the French. France is example number one when comes to natural selection of a nation\'s character.
Gallic Wars - Lost. In a war whose ending foreshadows the next 2000 years of French history, France is conquered by of all things, an Italian.
Hundred Years War - Mostly lost, saved at last by female schizophrenic who inadvertently creates The First Rule of French Warfare; "France\'s armies are victorious only when not led by a Frenchman."
Italian Wars - Lost. France becomes the first and only country to ever lose two wars when fighting Italians.
Wars of Religion - France goes 0-5-4 against the Huguenots
Thirty Years War - France is technically not a participant, but manages to get invaded anyway. Claims a tie on the basis that eventually the other participants started ignoring her.
War of Devolution - Tied. Frenchmen take to wearing red flowerpots as chapeaux.
The Dutch War - Tied
War of the Augsburg League/King William\'s War/French and Indian War - Lost, but claimed as a tie. Three ties in a row induces deluded Frogophiles the world over to label the period as the height of French military power.
War of the Spanish Succession - Lost. The War also gave the French their first taste of a Marlborough, which they have loved every since.
American Revolution - In a move that will become quite familiar to future Americans, France claims a win even though the English colonists saw far more action. This is later known as "de Gaulle Syndrome", and leads to the Second Rule of French Warfare; "France only wins when America does most of the fighting."
French Revolution - Won, primarily due the fact that the opponent was also French.
The Napoleonic Wars - Lost. Temporary victories (remember the First Rule!) due to leadership of a Corsican, who ended up being no match for a British footwear designer.
The Franco-Prussian War - Lost. Germany first plays the role of drunk Frat boy to France\'s ugly girl home alone on a Saturday night.
World War I - Tied and on the way to losing, France is saved by the United States. Thousands of French women find out what it\'s like to not only sleep with a winner, but one who doesn\'t call her "Fraulein." Sadly, widespread use of condoms by American forces forestalls any improvement in the French bloodline.
World War II - Lost. Conquered French liberated by the United States and Britain just as they finish learning the Horst Wessel Song.
War in Indochina - Lost. French forces plead sickness, take to bed with the Dien Bien Flu
Algerian Rebellion - Lost. Loss marks the first defeat of a western army by a Non-Turkic Muslim force since the Crusades, and produces the First Rule of Muslim Warfare; "We can always beat the French." This rule is identical to the First Rules of the Italians, Russians, Germans, English, Dutch, Spanish, Vietnamese and Esquimaux.
War on Terrorism - France, keeping in mind its recent history, surrenders to Germans and Muslims just to be safe. Attempts to surrender to Vietnamese ambassador fail after he takes refuge in a McDonald\'s.
Let\'s face it. When it comes to war, France gets rolled more often than a Parisian prostitute with a visible mustache. They\'ve been beaten so many times there\'s no fight left in them. There\'s no national anthem in the world as ludicrous as France\'s
To arms, to arms, ye brave!
Th\'avenging sword unsheathe!
March on, march on, all hearts resolved
On liberty or death.
Oh liberty can man resign thee,
Once having felt thy gen\'rous flame?
Can dungeons, bolts, and bar confine thee?
Or whips thy noble spirit tame?
Can dungeons, bolts, and bar confine thee? Or whips thy noble spirit tame? Yes, demonstrably. The question for any country silly enough to count on the French should not be "Can we count on the French?", but rather "How long until France collapses?"
You should keep that in mind, Herr Schroeder.
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lol. I smell closed thread. That\'s three in a span of 5 minutes.
The whistle goes WOOO WOOO!
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well done Gman, your actions have just closed this thread
Vid can re-open it if he wants, at least this way he can see what you have been up to.
Edit
thread reopend...
in light of the islam is evil thread :evil:...we need a thread talking about a tasty Wheat & fried Chicken ovulation thread to lighten things up.
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hey there is a new name for Fench Toast
Fried Chicken Ovulations on bread.;)
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Gosh, the things that happen when I am out of town.