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Pop superstar Michael Jackson opens his home and his heart to ITV1\'s Tonight programme at 9pm tonight in a series of extraordinary interviews shot in America and Europe.
Tonight\'s award-winning reporter Martin Bashir talks candidly to the reclusive star about all aspects of his life. The film is an extraordinary insight into the life of one of the most famous and controversial figures in the world.
Tonight has been filming with Michael Jackson throughout one of the most turbulent periods in his life - including the controversial episode when he dangled his baby over a hotel balcony.
No areas of the singer\'s career or personal life are off limits. The results are utterly compelling - this truly is Michael Jackson as you have never seen him before...
yup a totaly unedited 1 hour programmeto be shown tonight in the UK and US (soon).
saw a clip this morning and the interviewer Martin Bashir asked Michael about his father beating him up and how he fealt about it now.
his reation was of .."how could you ask me such a question".
and yes it is in the final Programme.
if you have access to UK TV then its a must watch.
if not then remember the title and watch it when it go\'s States side.
edit..more info
Living with Michael Jackson - A Tonight Special
A special edition of the current affairs series featuring reporter Martin Bashir`s film of his in-depth interview with the American pop superstar. Bashir was granted unprecedented access to Michael Jackson over the course of eight months during 2002, and in that time there was no subject that was off limits for discussion - from allegations of child abuse to the ever changing colour of Jackson`s skin
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I saw the trailer to this and I agree it is a programme not to be missed.
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I might watch it, though I\'m waiting to see "Today with Benn & Hussain". I want to see just how far Tony Benn (the UK\'s unofficial arse kissing envoy to Iraq), manages to stick his head up Saddams arse, then do his bidding by selling it (on So-damn Insanes behalf) to the rest of the world. I also look forward to the public bolloxing he will surely recieve for doing so. To take it upon himself to "chummy up" with the Iraqi dictator is bad enough, but to turn around and do a Neville "we have peace in our time" Chamberlaine for money, is something else.
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This should be pretty interesting, I hope I dont forget to watch it.
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*thinks to self*
Do I waste a total hour of my life watching an interview with “wacko-jacko” or do I spend some quality time with my family….
What channel will it be on?
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Originally posted by project86
*thinks to self*
Do I waste a total hour of my life watching an interview with “wacko-jacko” or do I spend some quality time with my family….
What channel will it be on?
It was meant to be shown simultaneously both in the UK and US
But due to the Columbia disaster the US transmission has been put back.
Even Mr Jackson will have to wait to see it, he hasn’t even seen any of the programme due to the no edit policy.
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Something must be up because Friday night there is a 2 hour special I think with Barbera Walters with Michael Jackson. Is this dude coming out with a new CD or something?
Actually I don\'t think it\'s Barbera, but I\'m not sure.
How can he possibly think that he doesn\'t look like he has had plastic surgery? Look at that chin! Look at the cheeks! Look at his nose! Oh god look at that nose!
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Found this on the wire.....
MICHAEL Jackson claims he wants to live for ever in a documentary tonight.
Wacko Jacko, 46, also says he has never had plastic surgery as he lets TV cameras into his home for the first time.
He also opens his heart about his children to interviewer Martin Bashir for the ITV1 programme, Living With Michael Jackson.
Jacko is also quizzed about child-sex allegations — and sobs as he reveals his father beat him up.
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Damn that has to be an interesting show...
Wonder when it will air here in Finland...
Did I hear a "Never"?
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Originally posted by Darth Joyda
Damn that has to be an interesting show...
Wonder when it will air here in Finland...
Did I hear a "Never"?
:mad:
Just tune in on TV4..
They buy all kinds of crap... For example, the ****tards, Oh I mean Osbournes!
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Allright. Thanks for the heads-up, Fastson :)
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Originally posted by fastson
Just tune in on TV4..
They buy all kinds of crap... For example, the ****tards, Oh I mean Osbournes!
Thank God, someone else who hates the Osbournes. They need beating with kippers and large folding umbrellas.
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read a snippit of the interview in a paper today, apparentely he wants to live forever, and has never had any surgery.. rofl
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Originally posted by kopking
...........and has never had any surgery.. rofl
And you don\'t believe him??????? Psh, shame on you!!!!!
:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
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some screens here of the program
http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=17438&pagenumber=2
and that bit about his kid being born after it came out of the puss he frickin ran off with it and took it home to clean it, the guy is a nut job and he likes climbing trees.
:laughing:
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\'I SLEEP WITH CHILDREN\'
Michael Jackson has revealed how he likes sharing his bed with children.
The pop megastar said he once slept with Home Alone actor Macauley Culkin and his brothers and sisters.
But Jackson insisted there was no sexual motive.
His revelation came during an interview with Martin Bashir on ITV1 documentary, Living With Michael Jackson.
The singer has formed a close friendship with a 12-year-old boy called Gavin who regularly spends the night at his Neverland mansion in California.
Strange
Jackson, 44, filmed holding the boy\'s hand, said there was nothing strange about the arrangement.
He said: "It\'s very loving. What\'s wrong with sharing a love?"
Jackson said he always slept on the floor when Gavin was there.
Asked if they ever shared a bed, Jackson replied: "No. But I have slept in a bed with many children."
They include former child actor Macauley Culkin, his brother Kieran and their sisters. They all slept in the same bed together with Jackson, the star said.
He said it was always the children\'s choice to sleep in his bedroom and he was happy to oblige.
\'Not Sexual\'
He said: "It\'s not sexual. We\'re going to sleep. I tuck them in and I put a little music on and when it\'s story time I read a book.
"We go to sleep with the fire on and I give them hot milk and cookies. It\'s very charming and very sweet. It\'s what the whole world should do."
When told many people would think it inappropriate for a 44-year-old man to share a bed with a young boy, Jackson dismissed them as "ignorant" and "wacky".
"Why can\'t you share your bed? The most loving thing to do is to share your bed with someone," he said.
"It\'s a beautiful thing. It\'s very right, it\'s very loving. Because what\'s wrong with sharing a love?"
Accusations
Jackson said he would be happy for his own children to share a bed with his male friends - naming Bee Gee Barry Gibb as an example.
Jackson was questioned on accusations made in 1994 that he molested 13-year-old Jordy Chandler.
He has always denied the claims and paid the boy\'s parents £18 million to drop a civil case against him.
He became visibly upset when asked about the Chandler case and said he had only paid the family off to avoid "a long, drawn-out thing on TV like OJ".
The self-styled Peter Pan said that he adored being with children and that they were the inspiration for his work.
"If there were no children on this earth, if someone announced all kids were dead, I would jump off the balcony immediately," he said.
Blanket
Jackson also told of his three children - his five-year-old son, Prince Michael I, four-year-old daughter Paris, and his baby boy.
Jackson disclosed for the first time that the baby - whom he calls Blanket - was conceived by a surrogate mother he has never met.
He insisted there was nothing wrong with dangling "Blanket" over a balcony, saying the baby had enjoyed it.
He also vehemently denied his face had been remoulded through plastic surgery, and said he had undergone only two operations on his nose "to help me hit higher notes".
The singer, who told how he was beaten by his father, said he would now love to adopt two kids from each continent of the world.
"That is my dream," he added.
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meh, all we get here in australia is a pissy little show about his face. ........ did they air that already? ........ anyway, sif you\'d want to hear about his face when there\'s all that pedophelia stuff hanging about!!!
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I have to say that I think he is very dodgy, but only because he is so different from most normal people with normal lives.
I think his heart\'s in the right place but he\'s just gone nuts after years of the same thing everywhere he goes.
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I decided not to watch this programme in the end. I looked at the listings and it was on for nearly 2 hours. That\'s more than any normal person can take of Jacko.:D
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Originally posted by Kurt Angle
I decided not to watch this programme in the end. I looked at the listings and it was on for nearly 2 hours. That\'s more than any normal person can take of Jacko.:D
yeah tell me about it i thought was just 1 hour long.
:eek:
let me say that the first "half" was quite "Normal"
ok he\'s got money and let him spend it on what ever he wats in the two Blue Urn\'s costing $0.5 Million for the pair.
it was the second half with the kids that will shock you.
Both what he dose to his own and other peoples.
:eek: :surprised :eek:
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It was quite a wierd documentary, i was changiung between \'con air\' and it seemed more interesting =]
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results are in
Viewing figures for the programme was 14 million which increased to 15.5 million viewers.
No Doubt most people where either not interested or like PS2_-\'_\'-_PS2 watched con air. ;)
wait till you see the amount of stuff he bought in his Fav Las Vagus Shop.
:eek:
oh and also you won\'t beleve the Michael Jackson feeding his baby son through a golden vail part.
has to be seen to be beleved.
:eek: :eek:
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Sorry for the 2nd post but i think it might be shown inb the US tonight or tomorrow night.
Check local listings.
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There was somthing on AUST tv\'s last night, it wasn\'t this doco though, something different again. Its like the third one in accouple of months.
The first two were about his face, this one was about the sleeping with kids etc. Hmmm, maybe it was the UK one, though it had a different title I think.
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
There was somthing on AUST tv\'s last night, it wasn\'t this doco though, something different again. Its like the third one in accouple of months.
The first two were about his face, this one was about the sleeping with kids etc. Hmmm, maybe it was the UK one, though it had a different title I think.
was the interviewer Martin Bashir ?
the man who gave the world famous Princess Diana interview ?
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this guy ??????
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Michael Jackson.HOW INTERESTING!!..............NOT!!!
You guys watched that?
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Originally posted by Unicron!
Michael Jackson.HOW INTERESTING!!..............NOT!!!
You guys watched that?
over 14 million of us , Unicron!
and even though Martin Bashir could of asked more probe\'n questions, people are still talking about it.
esp the Child side of the programme (second Half)
some analysts are saying that this could End his reputation rather than build it up for an apparent immenent release of new material.
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Reputation?
http://thescotsman.co.uk/index.cfm?id=142962003
They are looking to bring him up on charges.....
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thanks for the link buddy :D
Uri Geller, who was thanked in the programme’s credits for setting up Bashir’s interviews, said his faith in Jackson was undamaged. He said: "He is a pure, innocent human being. Michael was brutally honest, he was direct, he never flinched from the difficult questions."
yeah and the funny thing is that Uri Geller is his best mate.
looks like he should of stuck to spoon bending.
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That\'s what is sad. He doesn\'t even realize that a grown man shouldn\'t be sharing his bed with children. There is no telling what this guy gets off on. Dude is whacked.
They will get pretty big ratings tomorrow night when it hits the states. The radio is talking about it quite a bit.
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Originally posted by ooseven
thanks for the link buddy :D
yeah and the funny thing is that Uri Geller is his best mate.
looks like he should of stuck to spoon bending.
I used to like Uri until I read this.
j/k
I dont know what Uri Gueller\'s doing with a man like MJ.:confused:
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I said I would not watch but I am drawn to it like a train wreck.
VERY DISTURBING!!!!!!
Ace
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I really don\'t understand why people are all "ohh my god" about him, if he\'s screwed he\'s face from plastic surgery. Big whoop. It\'s his face to screw. If I had lots of money, was famous, and had kids. I would be covering their faces too. There\'s a lot of nut cases out there that would’ve taken a kid for millions in a second.. All though the baby over the ledge thing wasn\'t good...
Also the sleeping with kids is kinda twisted.. I wouldn\'t do it.. same room is ok i guess, but same bed... argh.
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Kind of twisted????
There is something very wrong with this person. I have to say that it\'s difficult to watch this nightmare. I am close to believing his kids should be taken away for their own good.
SO VERY DISTURBING!!!!!!
Ace
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I\'ll tell you if this keeps up Michael will probably commit suicide....
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If what keeps up??
Ace
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I\'ll tell you if this keeps up, he will probably be shot.
The poor, sick, twisted freak.
Jacko - :nut:
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Some of you are retarded IMO. Mj survives on attention and controversy of some sort. PERIOD.
This guy is about as dangerous to children or anyone as a nun. PERIOD.
Everything he does is for attn. For one, who really needs a 3000 acre estate? What wrong has he *really* commited?
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I watched it... it is disturbing. I didnt want to watch the rest, instead I watched cartoons. Lol :rolleyes:
He has his own carnival; called neverland. He says he doesn\'t do plastic surgery, he says he is worth over 2 billion dollars, when actually its SIGNIFICANTLY less. He bought about a million dollars in one store, on jars. He has the ugliest nose. He says his brother would have sex in his room, while he was their, listening, he says that he is all about the fans, he says he is a wonderful father (bullshit, he almost threw his kid off a balcony).I could go on......
Dear god, what is wrong with this man?
Everything
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Originally posted by Spudz
I watched it... it is disturbing. I didnt want to watch the rest, instead I watched cartoons. Lol :rolleyes:
He has his own carnival; called neverland. He says he doesn\'t do plastic surgery, he says he is worth over 2 billion dollars, when actually its SIGNIFICANTLY less. He bought about a million dollars in one store, on jars. He has the ugliest nose. He says his brother would have sex in his room, while he was their, listening, he says that he is all about the fans, he says he is a wonderful father (bullshit, he almost threw his kid off a balcony).I could go on......
Dear god, what is wrong with this man?
Everything
His estate is called neverland :)
no surgery..even I think/know that is bullshit.
How would you know what he is worth?
ugly nose..yes
He does love his fans.
I dont know how good of a father is, but he did not almost throw his child over the balcony.
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How would you know what he is worth?
Him himself said, watch 20/20, it was on their. He said a billion, but Barbara, said it was actually around 20 million, I\'m not sure.
I dont know how good of a father is, but he did not almost throw his child over the balcony.
explain; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/showbiz/2494249.stm
He admits it was just stupid.
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He does love his fans.
I think he\'s really in it for the money, if his father abused him so much. Why would he do it? Why? He says he wanted to be a normal kid, and play baseball, and other sports in the park. But instead he decided to record music, go on tour, and get money
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Spudz, you could just as easily argue the same thing had he gone into baseball and made it in the professional leauge. You can only make money when people think you have talent. But that\'s beside the point. Of course he wanted to be a normal kid, who wouldn\'t?
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Originally posted by Spudz
Him himself said, watch 20/20, it was on their. He said a billion, but Barbara, said it was actually around 20 million, I\'m not sure.
explain; http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/showbiz/2494249.stm
He admits it was just stupid.
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I think he\'s really in it for the money, if his father abused him so much. Why would he do it? Why? He says he wanted to be a normal kid, and play baseball, and other sports in the park. But instead he decided to record music, go on tour, and get money
I did watch and that was my point, how would barbara or anyone else know how much exactly but him? He probably made 20 mil. off of his last album alone.
Stupid, yes...but he didnt almost throw the child over the balcony. I could trip and stumble and be labled a drunk..was I drunk? no..get the point?
He didnt decide anything, they were essentially forced to be in the spotlight. After time, that is what he knew and or liked to do. MJ is an entertainer first and foremost.
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Your missing the point.
Anybody who watched him feed his baby, not giving a flying crap about his two kids being mauled at the zoo by reporters is disturbing. Hanging an infant over a balcony and not even admitting that it might be dangerous is crazy. There is nothing normal about him.
I always thought that the reports about him were untrue or a stretch, but after last night I think most of it is true. If he is so willing to to not tell the truth about his surgery, which is such an obvious lie, how can we believe anything he has to say?
luckee,
Any forty plus year old man who has strange kids sleeping with him in his bed is disturbed, and the sycophantic parents that would allow such a thing are even worse. My god, when that twelve year old was holding his hand and had his head on Jackson\'s shoulder was enough to send shivers down my spine.
Why is it so hard to see right from wrong now-a-days? Why are we willing to apologize for such bizarre behavior?
Ace
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This sucks, I don\'t get ABC - damn DirecTV... Why couldn\'t this have been on CBS or NBC?
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The really wierd thing is I actually believe him when he says its not sexual. Nowadays everytime a male is suspected of loving children a little too much we all jump to the conclusion that hes a child molester. And most of the time its correct. But this guy is wierd in a different way.
I think hes just obsessed with children. Also, hes only been accused once, and that family dropped charges fast enough once he offered money. I havent heard anything about kiddy porn being found anywhere in his home, or wherever. Most times they bust those child molesters, they find that type of stuff and you bet someone looked REAL close after the 1993 incident.
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OK, here is my take.
Michael is very sick and twisted, but he has no clue.
He has never had a childhood. He has no clue what it is like to be a human being. You saw what it was lke when he was walking in the mall. That is ridiculous.
He father beat the shit out of him. His brothers were having sex in the bed right next to him so he could hear every thing. Could you imagine being about 11 years old and having your older brother nailing a chick right next to you. That would certainly mess you up.
Having your parents ridicule you over your complection and your potty skin is insane. They really messed him up.
His kids do not have an ounce of black in them. I doubt if any of them are biologically his. The thought of the third being his with a black mother as he says is absolutely 100% impossible.
I kind of doubt that he has sex with these kids in his bed. I truely don\'t see him doing that, but you never know.
Anyone notice that his voice was normal at the ice cream cone stand when he was acting like a kid saying "I want one I want one" Then he said something like, "Sorry, I get a little excited" or something. Anyway, he sounded normal there. Like the soft spoken voice is a farce.
I also heard from numerous people on the radio that one of the blonde kids had black roots in their hair. That would be wild if he is dying the kid\'s hair.
The guy is just freaky, but I think he was messed up simply by his dad and the whole superstar lifestyle.
One thing I did notice is the difference between Euros and Americans. You will never see Americans standing outside his hotel and chasing down his car. We all think the guy is a whacked loser who hasn\'t had a good album in nearly 20 years. The people in Belgium on the other hand were going nuts for him? Why? THe dude sings and dances. That\'s it. He hasn\'t healed the world. He hasn\'t done anything. He just writes songs.
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" Could you imagine being about 11 years old and having your older brother nailing a chick right next to you. That would certainly mess you up."
Its not too hard to imagine that being a fantasy of quite a few people in here :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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I did watch and that was my point, how would barbara or anyone else know how much exactly but him? He probably made 20 mil. off of his last album alone.
Lol, his record label said it right their on the broadcast. Did you watch it?
Stupid, yes...but he didnt almost throw the child over the balcony. I could trip and stumble and be labled a drunk..was I drunk? no..get the point?
People wouldn\'t call you a drunk for stumbling. But rather clumsy. I never said he was trying to kill his baby, HE ADMITTED it was a stupid thing. He doesnt even spend that much time with his kids anyway.
He didnt decide anything, they were essentially forced to be in the spotlight. After time, that is what he knew and or liked to do. MJ is an entertainer first and foremost.
The only entertainment I get out of him is that himself, What a freak.
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I didnt catch all of it so i dont know what his label said.
yea he did..as did you and I. Am I missing something here?
He isnt here to solely entertain you. :)