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Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: videoholic on February 04, 2003, 03:56:28 PM: http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=519&e=4&u=/ap/20030204/ap_on_re_us/attacks_redevelopment

Pics on this site suck, but I can\'t find the old pics.

Both of these buildings make it the worlds tallest building. One is nasty. The big erector set looking thing.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on February 04, 2003, 03:58:03 PM: I prefer the first one, more traditional look.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: videoholic on February 04, 2003, 03:59:34 PM: Nevermind. I found a link to vote.

http://www.msnbc.com/news/849103.asp?0cl=c1
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: shockwaves on February 04, 2003, 04:13:26 PM: Neither one really fits. Both are good looking structures overall, but I really don\'t like the idea of having either one. I really think that the space should be turned into a memorial, and not into a place for of business. New York City has always been a pretty special place for me. I go there a lot, and I just couldn\'t see either of these things going there. They just don\'t seem like they\'d fit in with the New York Skyline. I\'d like to see an image of what they think the entire New York skyline would look like with the towers there. If I had to choose one, I think I\'d go with the Studio Daniel Libeskind design, but I really wouldn\'t like either one.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: (e) on February 04, 2003, 04:17:02 PM: Both look odd.

The pictures are *bleh*.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: nO-One on February 04, 2003, 04:24:30 PM: gimme a pic ofer 150px in size and then and only then I\'ll make my judgement
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: fastson on February 04, 2003, 04:28:28 PM: Ugh..

What happened to the traditional way of designing buildings?
I think they should choose one that goes with the Empire State Building “theme”, ESB is one of the most beautiful buildings in NY IMO (I like the Chrysler building also).

These sci-fi crap designs are UGLY.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: videoholic on February 04, 2003, 04:39:43 PM: I now realize that no one reads past the first post. I posted pics from MSNBC in the second post. There are several pics of both designs that are very large of both.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: (e) on February 04, 2003, 04:58:56 PM: I read it, I just thought it was voting. ill check it out.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: (e) on February 04, 2003, 05:00:04 PM: THe one on the left looks better, but both still quite ugly.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: Bozco on February 04, 2003, 06:09:04 PM: I see no problem with the one on the left, though some of the other design choices from earlier were better.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on February 05, 2003, 02:04:30 AM: I\'ve seen beter designs indeed...
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: project86 on February 05, 2003, 03:32:56 AM: I voted for the one on the right. Give me the sci-fi crap any day. Progress not digress.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: Kurt Angle on February 05, 2003, 05:36:00 AM: Personally I think it would be better to build a permanent shrine to those who lost their lives. This would include a nice grassy area with flowers and seating somewhere that people could sit and pay their respects.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: ##RaCeR## on February 05, 2003, 05:52:26 AM: I like the lattice one, looks like the old ones and gives more of a shrine look. I don\'t want them to build some mega ass tower on that site, I think thats really dissrespectful.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: GigaShadow on February 05, 2003, 06:11:39 AM: Ok the one on the right looks like it has scaffolding all over it... freaking great and its even winning in the online votes!
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: Simchoy on February 05, 2003, 09:32:21 AM: We have eh (one with the tall tower) to ugly (laticework crap). I hope it is the tall slender tower one chosen of the two, or simply go back to the drawing board and come out with a better design.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: theomen on February 05, 2003, 03:24:22 PM: I just don\'t know what the hell these people are thinking. ugh.......
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: theomen on February 05, 2003, 03:26:19 PM: I would just rebuild the old towers, but add on a couple stories.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: Bozco on February 05, 2003, 03:36:31 PM: A memorial some of you say, thats just not practical. Sorry but that is what things end up coming to. You can\'t just get rid of a place that had enough business offices for over 50,000 people.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: pats8383 on February 05, 2003, 04:21:28 PM: By going bigger, isn\'t exactly always the better soution. I don\'t really like either design, though the one on the right is better then the one on the left in my estimation.

Preserving the "footprint" of the two building is a respectible gesture and can serve as a memorial and still provide a space for those businesses that will relocate back into the building.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: ##RaCeR## on February 05, 2003, 04:24:58 PM: Bozco, I can\'t believe what I am hearing

3000+ people died because of those buildings, isn\'t it just insulting that their lives aren\'t even worth anything that you go and build some mega ass tower there again, as if they didn\'t even mean anything?

I\'m all for mega ass towers, but not on the same site. Demolish some old crappy towers and rebuild there, but not on the same site, i think thats really disrespectful.

I memorial is much better.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: pats8383 on February 05, 2003, 04:32:49 PM: Quote
Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Bozco, I can\'t believe what I am hearing

3000+ people died because of those buildings, isn\'t it just insulting that their lives aren\'t even worth anything that you go and build some mega ass tower there again, as if they didn\'t even mean anything?

I\'m all for mega ass towers, but not on the same site. Demolish some old crappy towers and rebuild there, but not on the same site, i think thats really disrespectful.

I memorial is much better.

I see your point, but this is manahatten and realestate is limited. I know that sounds emotionless, but its the facts. plus too by rebuilding it doesn\'t have to be a lack of respect for those who lost their lives its a symbol of the american spirit that you can tear down what ever buildings we have we will rebuild.

Every soul lost on that day should have something to memorialize them and it should be on site, but you shouldn\'t look at the buildings as a disrespect to those who died, but a symbol in its own right to our strenght to rebuild and still be able to pay our respects to those who died.. If I or someone I knew had died on that day, I would like a memorial, but at the same time I would want them to rebuild the buildings.
Title: WTC down to two choices
Post by: ##RaCeR## on February 05, 2003, 04:43:39 PM: Pats

I understand what your saying, I really do, I am all for patriotism and the american spirit, but c\'mon, there is no way you can build the cities tallest tower on that piece of land, it just seems so sick, especially if it were to become an incredibly important tower (as the WTC were). Imagine if there was a bomb blast, or another plane disaster, and more people lost their lives, it just seems like your asking for trouble.

If it were my dicision, I would build a monument of some type as a shrine to all those who died. I would then convert the remaining land into a nice parkland, probably including some kind of mega ass artwork or feature (to rival statue of liberty) to become a new york icon.

I would then tear down some old unused highrises, and use that land to build some mega ass tower.

I think that that land is now kinda sacred, and I dont think that any more blood should be shed there, I mean, the american people would be right out pissed if something happened again on a new tower at that very spot.