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Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: EmperorRob on February 15, 2003, 09:27:19 PM
At its lowest setting this game plays in slo-mo on my system.  It\'s true I need a new video card tho.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: -____- on February 15, 2003, 09:47:14 PM
whats your specs?
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: THX on February 16, 2003, 02:19:19 AM
Yea every review seems to say you need a decent rig to play it optimally.  It runs great on my p2.4b but it and the rest of my puter wasn\'t cheap. :(

Anyone wanna play me?  I suck plain & simple but played a good amount of Red Alert 2.  Lmk and we can set something up...  Maybe even 2 vs 2 or more.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: Samwise on February 16, 2003, 02:28:59 AM
Aw, I\'d have loved to play you. But no dice with this POS box. :)
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: Darth Joyda on February 16, 2003, 03:16:45 AM
I think my computer could run C&C Generals fine enough. I am not going to buy it though.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: Sublimesjg on February 16, 2003, 04:44:16 AM
ugh i have good card but they recommend 1.8 at least and i got 1.0

bigg difference there anyway i might try it and see how it is
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: shockwaves on February 16, 2003, 07:48:48 AM
I would get it, but this computer isn\'t close to what I\'d need to run the thing well.  That thing really has some high requirements on it. :(
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on February 16, 2003, 04:13:51 PM
it is, but it runs like buttah on my rig, I got to play w/ you some time Rob
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: EmperorRob on February 17, 2003, 05:50:54 PM
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Originally posted by -____-
whats your specs?

1.2 T-bird
256 DDR
Radeon LE (the first release) 32 MB

I\'m going to order me either a Geforce TI 4600 or a Radeon 9500 Pro but I can\'t make up my mind.  I got the rig I have now for dirt cheap but I kind of skimped on the video and that was about 2 years ago so it\'s time for an upgrade.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: CHIZZY on February 17, 2003, 07:26:44 PM
I just upgraded to 1+gig ram, on my AMD athalon 1800, I need a new vid card....any suggestions?

oh, and how is it anyway? (c&C)
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: Tyrant on February 17, 2003, 08:17:51 PM
chizzy right now a good choice of vid card to go for is the  radeon9500 pro, it offers a bigger bang for yer buck but if u feel like spending some hard cash then fo for the radeon9700 pro.
other sugestions r, gf4 Ti4400 or gf4 Ti4600
:)
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: EmperorRob on February 17, 2003, 09:37:29 PM
From what I played, which is just the tutorial, it\'s similar to the C & C series but a little different as well.  Not sure about the super weapons (they are sweet).  Graphics are amazing and the tanks are the bomb.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: Ryu on February 17, 2003, 10:02:37 PM
The game is a big departure from the C&C series.  It has the same amount of comedy on the battlefield as previous C&C games like people getting tossed into the air like ragdolls and what not, but the general story has been ripped out.  There\'s no campy hilarious FMV sequences with Tanya, in fact, there are no female US soldiers.  I don\'t know about the other units, but the GLA don\'t have any female units either.  The story is also really simplistic without any really heavy shocking plot twists like in Red Alert or Red Alert 2.

Whether these missing portions of the game make you not want the series or not is a complete preference issue since people love stories and people can live without them.  I think the brief introductions to each level are more than enough to tide me over though so in my opinion, missing those few extras don\'t necessarily hurt the game in the slightest.  The unit changes are amazing though and the game feels incredibly balanced.  The US side, which is the side I have used considerablly, has some really awesome capabilities seen in other C&C games, but never applied in this degree.  

The music itself is damn good for an RTS and I\'m very impressed with it.  One thing they did do very differently with this series other than the massive story changes, is the interface which is a mix of Warcraft III and traditional Command and Conquer facets.  The fog of war regrows, not as rapidly as Warcraft III, but it regrows nonetheless.  The interface is handled at the bottom of the screen as opposed to the right hand side like in every other C&C game, and resources are handled MUCH differently by each faction.  It truly is genius how it all works out.

A couple of examples of some of the awesome tricks the US can do:



That\'s just the beginning too.  America dominates with its air force and I didn\'t even touch on it here.  Getting down to it, the General abilities coupled with the versatility of units and the sheer tactical know how required to play the game is magnificent making a game that is perfectly balanced and fun to play while being incredibly beautiful to stare at at the same time.  If you have the rig to run it, I highly recommend you pick this game up.  It\'s a truly magnificent RTS that\'s not only fun to watch, but really fast and fun to play as well.
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Post by: jiggs on February 17, 2003, 10:57:15 PM
Fast cpus are great to have but with a great vid card a 1.2 can run this game well. Mine is the Ti4600 I can even run Unreal 2 smooth at 12 by 9. Just make sure I turn off all the programs running in the  background.


Thats the beauty of the GPU. Only the math baby. C. C. Generals is glorious.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: EmperorRob on February 18, 2003, 12:07:50 AM
I didn\'t get as far as you Ryu but one thing you didn\'t mention that I like is the way the tanks and hummers knock down trees when they move.

And Kari Wuhrer is hot btw.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: Ryu on February 18, 2003, 12:31:15 AM
Well, there\'s lots of little graphical effects I didn\'t go into depth about.  Explosions from buildings and units cause splash damage, albeit minimal.  Certain buildings can fall down and injure your units, or even better, destroy theirs. ;)  I once had a nice little encounter on the 2nd US mission where I knocked down a large guard tower that crushed a GLA building and several units underneath it.  On the other hand, earlier in that same mission, I lost a humvee and six men from another guard tower on the other side of the level.  Plus, objects between your units and theirs impede your fire such as buildings being too tall for Cruise Missiles to fire over, impacting on the side of the wall, and damaging your own units such as the scout drones and whatnot.  There\'s a lot of neat little details that are just fun to discover and a lot of the times, purely by accident. :)
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Post by: Mr. Kennedy on February 18, 2003, 08:20:40 AM
I got to the third Chinese mission and then my friend came over and stole my disk.  :rpissed:

Damn, when I get it back I am going to wreck havoc.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: THX on February 18, 2003, 10:23:55 PM
Ryu great assesment about the USA, but China is better imo.

Some gameplay tips:

- EA logs each win/loss you make on P2P multiplayer and it\'s stored on their servers so if you\'re a n00b be sure to play a person with a similar record as yours for a good match.

- There\'s one big flaw in multiplayer which is making a 4 player game which a team of 3 set up; 2 play as a team and the other is a decoy.  A guest comes in and joins teams with the decoy.  So when the game starts the decoy leaves the game and now it\'s a 2 vs 1 game, allowing cheaters to get an easy win.  Somewhat like pausing the NFL game on the PS2 if you\'re gonna lose in hopes the real winner will forfeit the match.

- As Ryu pointed out soldiers are much stronger in this C&C so don\'t be afraid to make a ton of Rocket doods and rangers with flashbangs.

What\'s everyone\'s record?  I\'m about 5-0 right now but am getting lucky wins since my teammates are more experenced.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on February 19, 2003, 07:51:33 PM
woot, got my disk back, return to playing on Friday!  Since tomorrow I will be gone, if anyone is interested in online play give me a holler.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: THX on February 19, 2003, 08:29:48 PM
AOL sn = Relaxasaurus

See if I\'m on before you play.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on April 18, 2003, 11:15:32 PM
Bringing up old threads. ;)

I got my dirty little hands on this game.

It\'s wicked. Runs fine on my machine at very high details. Has little pauses once in awhile. Normally for a split second before a massive explosion, but apart from that the game rocks. Very fun game indeed, I\'m doing the china campaign atm (first campaign) and finding it very well done. Can\'t wait to try out the scud missiles.
Using building or other vehicles to destroy the enemy is great. Shooting down towers will wipe out a fair amount of troops and armoured vehicles if done right. Great fun. I found the Migs to be a great for huge groups of troops or armoured vehicles.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: EmperorRob on April 19, 2003, 10:57:26 AM
I used to have little stutters on the cutscenes, but after I added an extra 512 on my RAM it runs smooth.

I found out poking around the official forum that you can use command switches to skip the movie intros.

China \'s gatling tank is great.  And the USA commanches are my favorite unit.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: Paul on May 11, 2003, 11:05:17 PM
I\'ve a XP 1800 oc\'ed to XP2000, 256MB RAM, GF2TI and it runs S-L-O-W. Still playable but just too slow compared to WC3. Also, with out a DX8.1 card (GF2 is only DX7), the graphics looks pretty bland.

Well, I\'m not upgrading my system anytime soon as I\'m eyeing an XBOX after the E3 price drop.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: Paul on May 26, 2003, 09:01:48 PM
Just bought an ATI 9100 to run C&C and it\'s great!!! Now I can play everything in HIGH quality at 1024x768x32!!

Anyway, I like China too. With 2 overlords with Propoganda and 3 overlords with Gattling gun. Add about 3 more smaller tanks/guns and you\'re virtually indestrutible as long as you don\'t rush into an ambush.

Oh yeah...and the XBOX can wait. Hee-hee.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: Coredweller on September 06, 2004, 04:37:22 PM
Resurrecting an ancient thread.  I just got this game, and I\'ve played through the US and Chinese single player missions.  They go too fast.  However, I just spent the last couple days trying to figure out how to beat the final Chinese mission.  That was a hard one.

In spite of the improved graphics, I still think Red Alert 2 / Yuri\'s Revenge is a better game.  I am a C&C freak and I\'ve played just about every C&C variation.  I think RA2/YR is the summit of the series.  I like this game anyway, but it\'s such a resource hog, and RA2 is just as much fun or maybe more so.

I could go into more detail, but why?  I\'m sure you\'ve all played this already.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: THX on September 08, 2004, 04:23:22 AM
I kinda got more of a fun factor from Red Alert as well.

My favorite thing to do is to use those :ghey: trainers that give you infinite power, money, instant buildings, units, experience, etc...  vs like 3 Hard armies.  Just satisfying see the stuff you create be able to defend itself.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: ooseven on September 08, 2004, 12:09:51 PM
anyone still play generals ?

if so post a reply and we could have a PSX2central death mtch on the go.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: Coredweller on September 08, 2004, 02:00:17 PM
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Originally posted by THX
I kinda got more of a fun factor from Red Alert as well.

My favorite thing to do is to use those :ghey: trainers that give you infinite power, money, instant buildings, units, experience, etc...  vs like 3 Hard armies.  Just satisfying see the stuff you create be able to defend itself.
I play single player skirmishes on RA2, and I think I\'ve been playing against hard AI.  I do turn on the "goodies" chests or whatever they\'re called, and I generally run it with superweapons turned on.  (I learned to build my bases very decentralized so they can\'t take out very much with a Nuclear missile.)

One thing that amazed me about Generals is that the AI on your own units is not any smarter than it was under the previous games.  When you try to drive a column of tanks through a narrow bottleneck, invariably some of the tanks at the back decide they\'re going to go first, and the ones at the front wait for them to pass,... then there are always a few that decide they can\'t go through that way, so they reverse direction and start driving the long way around.  Incredibly stupid in my opinion.  Seems like it would have been an easy thing to fix too...
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: Proud To Be on September 08, 2004, 02:57:34 PM
So give a rating... 1-10?
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: Coredweller on September 08, 2004, 04:05:57 PM
C&C: Generals = 6
Red Alert 2 / Yuri\'s Revenge = 8
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: THX on September 08, 2004, 08:16:01 PM
I\'d give Generals a 7.
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: Ryu on September 08, 2004, 09:11:34 PM
I\'d give Zero Hour a try if I were you. :)
Title: C & C Generals is a freakin resource hog!!1
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on September 08, 2004, 11:36:02 PM
Red Alert 2 was ok.. about as good as Generals. Better than Tiberian Sun, not as good as Red Alert 1, nor Command & Conquer.