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Title: I am venting. (Shitty car)
Post by: SwifDi on February 26, 2003, 10:11:48 PM
Ok, you be the judge.

You\'re a 16 year old guy and you buy a car manufactured in 1988, not-fuel injected, automatic transmission, and obtain your license on your sixteenth birthday. The car is in moderate shape, but you want it be somewhat presentable. So you buy it really nice tires, costs you about 400 dollars. You also are a big music guy, so you buy a system for about another 400 dollars. Then you put it through a routine maintenance check that runs at about 70 dollars. You\'re good to go, no more money to be spent, its just you and your car right? Wrong.

Only one month goes by and your car is having carburator problems. Ok, small letdown, you get it reparied for about 120 dollars.

One week goes by, same problem arises again. The auto mechanic goes back to work, but does not charge.

Next month, the weather is dropping, and the car turns out to be one of those cars that needs a good 5-10 minutes warming up in the morning in order for it to drive well. And then, more problems with the carburator arise.

So the mechanic basically says, you need a new carb, not a rebuilt one, but a new one fresh out of the box. *cash register noise*

More money.

Its now February, your driving home from swim practice, and what do you know? The car stalls at a red light. And now it can\'t even seem to maintain any kind of idle speed, it just flat out crashes and burns all the way down to 0 rpm.

My dad is tired of it, and I\'m just sick of it. With the money we\'ve drained into this car I could have gotten like a 2002 Civic or some shit. Should I just quit feeding this dead dud and get it off my hands, and get a new car? Or is this just a problem the mechanic really has no clue on how to fix?

I\'m so sick of this shit, I need my car, its like another appendage of my body.

Ugh.
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: Tyrant on February 26, 2003, 10:19:18 PM
man get rid of this car fast, it will only keep costing u money.
once u fix the carb. somethin else will get busted, and once u fix that another thing will get busted and so on . . .
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: Coredweller on February 26, 2003, 10:20:26 PM
1988 was not a good year for domestic cars, which I assume is what this is.  :)  If any GM/Ford/Chrysler vehicle from 1988 is still running in 2003, I would consider it a miracle.  Their quality renaissance such as it was didn\'t start until the early 90\'s.  You should scrap it and by a Honda.  Sorry for the bad news.

[edit]
VS:  Here\'s another idea!  I\'m selling a 1995 Saturn SL1 for $2,500.  Dark Green, Auto, Air, cassette deck...  Well maintained.  Some minor cosmetic damage, but perfect mechanical condition.   Original owner, 64,000 miles, which is only about 7,500 per year.  

Let me know if you\'re interested.  I could deliver it to LV.  :)

Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: theomen on February 26, 2003, 10:22:09 PM
do the repairs yourself, get it running decently and unload it on somebody \'AS IS\'

If you don\'t know shit about mechanics, just teach yourself with the help of google, it ain\'t rocket science.
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: luckee on February 26, 2003, 10:30:59 PM
I agree with omen...learn to do it yourself, or as much as possible yourself. Most repairs arent that hard and can be done in front of your house with at the most.. a $300 craftsman tool set.

As for some of your other comments...there is nothing a new carb wont fix that a rebuilt one wont.

Also relating, Id suggest stepping up to fuel injection ASAP for someone like yourself.

If the car is as bad as you make it to be, learning to repair it, even if you F\' up...wont be a big deal.

Core: I think he owns a honda.
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: SwifDi on February 26, 2003, 10:43:29 PM
Yeah, Cored, its a Honda Accord LX. To be honest with you guys, I\'m too lazy to ever try and sit down and figure something out, much less auto mechanics. And Cored, I\'ll seriously take note of your offer at the moment.

How much would it cost to transform it to fuel-injection?

EDIT: Okay, I talked to my dad. We\'ve decided to give it a final and deciding chance. He was working with it earlier in the garage, and it is safe to say he is a moderate mechanic, and the only thing he basically did was raise the idle speed. Doesn\'t really do much but make the car "surge" and burn excess gas... But tomorrow morning I\'m gonna drop it off to the mechanic; talk to him, explain the problem, and sit on my hands for the next few months.
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: THX on February 27, 2003, 02:19:32 AM
Vapor I\'m in the same boat as you.  I bought a used 1990 Maxima in 99.  It was in great shape @ 117k and I quickly put in a lil stereo system.  Then I got involved at maxima.org and met a local guy who was wild over 3rd gen Max\'s.

He turboed his \'92 and I ended up buying his Cold-air intake & Y-pipe at a great price.  After the instant HP charge I got bitten by the bug.  It turns out he works at a parts shop, so I bought a performance tune-up kit, a custom catback with SS muffler, and got a timing advance.  I think this was what screwed the car. :surprised

At 172k the tranny started acting up (auto).  I would have a major problem then it would magically vanish a couple days later.  I visited a couple of mechanics, with 1 saying they wanted $3500 for a full rebuild. :laughing:  I said screw that took the car back and the problem jsut went away.  I was like Grrrrrreat!!

2 months later, as I\'m about to drive to class the car would stall out when I would stop.  For some reason the tranny wouln\'t disengage from the engine.  I drove it ghetto-style the rest of the day: when I\'d get at a stop light I\'d put it in neutral so it wouldn\'t stall.  But when I had to go I\'d have to give it some gas before 1st gear caught, making the car jerk which I\'m sure looked sexy to people watching.

My fahja & I also got sick of it and decided it was time for another used Maxima.  So I stripped & sold the stereo and was lining up buyers for the performance parts.  We test drove several promising cars but decided to get the final verdict the Max was dead & took it to a tranny shop.  They held it for 3 days and couldn\'t find any problems.  Lol!  So I drove it home and yes the problem went away.

So now I\'m driving 30 miles to college both ways and I\'m waiting for the next problem to happen at the worst time.  I\'ll look into getting that expensive full-transmission flush at Jiffy Lube rather than doing nothing like before.  The worst part: I have to drive around listening to this POS boombox for my music fix.

Good luck with whatever you do Vapor.  You\'re an **hole on the forums, but I wish you the best.

;) j/k

cored- great price!  Do Saturn\'s have a low resale value or something?  Low mileage and only 1 owner, sounds good to me.  The Maximas we looked at seemed great, but I was shocked after the Carfax.  Talk about 2-3 owners, an auction here & there, and finally to a dealership with a sticker of $7k+. :rolleyes:
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: SER on February 27, 2003, 02:47:59 AM
You shouldn\'t have wasted your time with a car that old. :crap:

I just got a Lexus IS300 loaner car since my ES is getting some work done it, it would be a good car for you @ around $25k. :D
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on February 27, 2003, 04:32:21 AM
I\'m getting a new car in a couple weeks, I\'m so excited!
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: project86 on February 27, 2003, 04:58:53 AM
Autotrader.com

Dump the problems you have now for some different problems. When buying used within the "affordable" range you have to pick between the lesser of two evils. Find a car with a great engine that has been taken care of then go from there. If there is a little rust, fix it later, at least rust and such won\'t keep the car from running.
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: THX on February 27, 2003, 06:01:16 AM
Not only a great engine, but a manual transmission.  It will last longer and cost less to maintain in the long run.  It\'s also better on gas mileage.

http://www.cars.com tends to have more private sellers.
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: project86 on February 27, 2003, 06:09:32 AM
Quote
Originally posted by THX
Not only a great engine, but a manual transmission.  It will last longer and cost less to maintain in the long run.  It\'s also better on gas mileage.

http://www.cars.com tends to have more private sellers.
Yes, manual transmissions are great. In fact I had a Mercury Lynx that ran 300,000 miles before I gave it away and that had a manual trans that I ran for just under 100,000 miles myself. What a great car! I know it wasn\'t much but it ran forever!
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: Kurt Angle on February 27, 2003, 08:00:36 AM
99%of people drive manual transmission cars here in the UK. I have never driven an auto.
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: Samwise on February 27, 2003, 11:34:11 AM
Get one of these instead. :)

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Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: theomen on February 27, 2003, 03:59:43 PM
or you could always get a horse...but you live in the desert so a camel might be a better choice.

try this site, akbarsusedcamels.com
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on February 27, 2003, 05:08:51 PM
Quote
Originally posted by Samwise
Get one of these instead. :)

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.velocityphotos.com%2Fimages%2Fstk%2F2003%2Fns2003350z02.jpg&hash=31f7340426ac212e870ca70e37a5d286f2bca343)


now thats what I\'m talking about!
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: The Stapler on February 27, 2003, 05:10:30 PM
Quote
Originally posted by theomen
or you could always get a horse...but you live in the desert so a camel might be a better choice.

try this site, akbarsusedcamels.com


There are seriously horses here.

Quote
How much would it cost to transform it to fuel-injection?


Probably more than the car is worth. Put on the stock wheels and stereo and sell it.
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: Bozco on February 27, 2003, 06:00:31 PM
Deal with it, my car needs 900$ in repairs, but I don\'t have 900$.  Its all under the hood problems, right now the car has no heat and over heats after 10 minutes of driving.  Not to mention the big front axel problems.
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: clowd on February 27, 2003, 07:05:21 PM
your adusting mixture screw could be bent or adjusted wrong,.  or maybe your idle passage is dirty.  

Not a real big problem
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: project86 on February 28, 2003, 03:26:26 AM
Tell me what kind of car it is and if you know any other details such as cubic inch displacement, carb type etc and I might be able to help. There are a ton of aftermarket parts that replace the original and are a lot cheaper.
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on February 28, 2003, 04:41:11 AM
you a mechanic project?

if so I\'ll be talking to you in a few weeks...
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: project86 on February 28, 2003, 04:45:02 AM
No I\'m not a mechanic but I have built a couple hot rods in my day. I have also completed a few engine swaps too. I know allot about cars because my dad was a mechanic before he started his sales rep job when I was younger. I love cars and love to help people out when it comes to fixing them. I\'d be more than willing to help you out if you need any. Two of my best friends work as mechanics here in GR Michigan. Just let me know when you need some help and I\'ll do my best.
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: SwifDi on February 28, 2003, 06:33:26 AM
*drum roll*

88 Honda Accord LX (4door Sedan)
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: theomen on February 28, 2003, 01:22:31 PM
that my friend is a sweet ride :)
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: (e) on February 28, 2003, 04:37:49 PM
Just get a new car!!!!

1988? Lol, I was born that year... tsk, that thing is ancient.
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: Titan on February 28, 2003, 04:51:57 PM
I\'m getting a 92 Camaro RS most likely (would like a Z28 but too expensive insurance wise). V8 5.0 liter, it would be cool to get a stick but probably automatic. I want it in dark blue with grey trim, put in a new stereo system, maybe new rims if i don\'t like the ones on it. Thats about it. Maybe some engine mods if I have the money. My mom doesn\'t want me to get it and she\'s been trying to offload her 90 Sable on me that something went wrong in the engine a few months ago. She has a new car but I dont\' want that piece of shit. I want a cool car.
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: SwifDi on February 28, 2003, 10:25:14 PM
Well the car is back in my hands and running fine. For the time being.

*countsdown to "I am venting [shitty car] (Part 3)"
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: jinxx on March 01, 2003, 09:09:51 PM
Count yourself lucky vapor, I am stuck with a 89 ford escort 5 speed,2 dr hatchback. Not a bad car, but poochy as hell. I usually steal my dads car, 2002 Pontiac Grand Prix GT. Fun Fun!Or my Bro\'s T-bird SC. Even more fun!
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: theomen on March 01, 2003, 10:09:19 PM
I lucked out in high school, I had an 86 Camaro Berlineta and it ran like a freak\'n top all through out high school.  I never had a single problem with it, and it looked decent enough.  Only prob I ever had was that the rear view mirror would fall of once in a while because of my stereo (1700watts, Alpine deck with 6 Rockford Fosgate 12" Subs.)
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: SwifDi on March 02, 2003, 01:13:47 AM
1700 watts... wtf?!?!?

I\'m saving up for a 600 watt right now...
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: mjps21983 on March 02, 2003, 03:21:28 AM
LEMON!!!
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: SER on March 02, 2003, 04:59:40 AM
6 12\'s.... Damn, no wonder why your dad\'s hearing is.. ummm :)
Title: I am venting. (S$%^y car)
Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 02, 2003, 05:42:49 PM
My advice: Drop the car, buy a later 90\'s model , something that won\'t put you in debt and something that isn\'t over eight years old. Don\'t go in debt though. You\'ll regret it. I am paying on my 2002 Celica for the next long four years.
:(