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Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: fastson on March 06, 2003, 06:35:04 AM: The tide is high and Im .. hmm hmhmmm.. Im gonna be da numba one! Nuuummmbaa OOONE! :D

http://forums.gaming-age.com/showthread.php?s=&threadid=23128

Looks like ATI is the new king of the hill.. For now :)
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Impressive looking (Clyde?!?!!? :eek: )

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More @ link..

Whaddaya think? Is ATI the new king?
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: mm on March 06, 2003, 07:13:47 AM: i wanna see prices

i also wanna see ATi\'s piss poor [© 2002 ooseven] driver support (like always)
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: Samwise on March 06, 2003, 07:37:41 AM: Well, I\'ve said this for a while. ATI > nvidia :p
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: EmperorRob on March 06, 2003, 09:17:17 AM: The pisspoor driver support is for linux
win drivers are ok
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: nO-One on March 06, 2003, 10:38:29 AM: Well one of the lead driver programmers at nVidia now works over at ATi as some head driver honcho, so their drivers which have coma a long way since they introduced the Catalyst series is bound to become better.
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: THX on March 06, 2003, 12:16:40 PM: With AA turned ON the Radeon 9700 pulls ahead, but turn it off and the FX comes about dead even. Personally I never bothered to turn this feature on, do you guys?

The 9800 looks amazing spec-wise, any word on availability & price (and hopefully a price drop on the other Radeons). Why doesn\'t nVidia do this??? Like I said before competition = a good thing. No need to be hardcore fans of any camp. Just grab the best deal and best performance at the time.
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: nataku on March 06, 2003, 01:07:13 PM: Quote
Originally posted by THX
With AA turned ON the Radeon 9700 pulls ahead, but turn it off and the FX comes about dead even. Personally I never bothered to turn this feature on, do you guys?

I\'d never turn it on prior to the 9700s and 9500s... the performance drop was too great. But when I finally pick up a 9700pro (or greater, who knows) I doubt I\'ll play a game without it on. AF and AA makes games look so much better.

mm, your driver argument is getting old. If you have used an ATI card recently, you\'d know that their drivers are just as good as nVidia\'s. I\'ve never had a single problem with drivers on my 8500.
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on March 06, 2003, 01:33:22 PM: Every argument mm comes up with is old.. He\'s livin in the past man ;)
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: EmperorRob on March 06, 2003, 01:48:37 PM: The AA on the 9500 is great. Unfortunately it doesn\'t play nice w/C&C Generals.
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: mm on March 06, 2003, 02:26:26 PM: soully, remember when the gf4 was out and the radeon 9700 were announced?

where does each card sit now?
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: Kurt Angle on March 06, 2003, 03:00:50 PM: Figures don\'t mean much unless it can perform well running a variety of games. It is faster than my STB Velocity 4mb card though.:D
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on March 06, 2003, 03:35:34 PM: Quote
Originally posted by mm
soully, remember when the gf4 was out and the radeon 9700 were announced?

where does each card sit now?

Depends, we talking
Sales? Probably Nvidia
Price? Probably ATI
Power? Probably ATI
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: mm on March 06, 2003, 09:10:19 PM: thats alot of probably\'s

go look it up and report back

*yawn
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: KillaX on March 07, 2003, 04:34:27 AM: There is a 9800 coming out......Crap and I just bought the 9700Pro 3 or 4 months ago! But ATI\'s drivers are Great! I had problems with Nvidias when I had my Geforce 2.

:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: Samwise on March 07, 2003, 05:24:32 AM: Noooooo KillaX, don\'t say that. You\'ll destroy mm\'s world. ;)
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: mm on March 07, 2003, 06:10:24 AM: destroy my world? i got millions and millions of users backing me
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: Samwise on March 07, 2003, 06:37:12 AM: Well, then clearly you must be right. The masses are always right.
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: mm on March 07, 2003, 06:49:39 AM: well, the "masses" dont buy a product cause it\'s second best

which is why coca-cola isnt the leader soft drink
:)
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: Avatarr on March 07, 2003, 04:29:53 PM: its more a case of whats been engrained into people\'s heads than what really is the best.
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: mm on March 07, 2003, 04:32:48 PM: :rolleyes:

we\'ve all been brainwashed!
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on March 07, 2003, 04:32:59 PM: Why are the masses removing their pre-orders from Nvidia for ATI cards?

Right now, if i were to choose between ATI and Nvidia, i would have a ATI card in my machine. Nvidia will lead the price market. But that doesn\'t meant their cards are better. It just means people are buying the cheaper cards TI4400 etc.

The FX v Radeon9700+ is a different story. Who would want a card that has higher gpu/mem core speeds while being loud, hot, pricey and still not performing as well as the cheaper, quieter, cooler card? I mean, you HATE that kind of thing don\'t you mm?

seems to me the masses in here are against.. not with u mm..

Not to say nvidia aren\'t a good company. Right now they are in the dumps till they get a card out that can compete with the radeon cards on the same levels, being cooler, around same price and same noise levels, if not better at all 3. :) hope they pull it off.
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: Avatarr on March 07, 2003, 04:46:57 PM: its that damed 3dfx curse. nVidia is using their technology and now they\'re paying for it!#$%^&*()_=
Title: Looks like the tide has changed.. ATI > NV
Post by: §ôµÏG®ïñD on March 07, 2003, 04:55:19 PM: and the driver issue is lame.. I can download updated drivers. Can\'t download a updated card eh ;)