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Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: GmanJoe on March 07, 2003, 11:15:50 AM
Any thoughts about that? I thought it would be great if they kept the stationary camera angles but added the DMC controls. Then i thought that would make killing zombies TOO DAMN EASY!

But I kinda wish they\'d use it one day.

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Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: Unicron! on March 07, 2003, 01:57:20 PM
Limited choice of moves and weapons are what make survival- Horror games survival horror.
Even if you have DMC controls and monsters that are hard to kill still it wouldnt be called survival horror.It would have turned into a hard to beat action game.
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: Ashford on March 07, 2003, 07:30:56 PM
I still prefer RE controls...

Too used to it...
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: (e) on March 07, 2003, 07:51:49 PM
I wish RE was more action oriented, meaning not restricted to movement etc. etc.

I would probably play one then :D
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: ooseven on March 08, 2003, 01:39:26 AM
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Originally posted by Ashford
I still prefer RE controls...

Too used to it...


i don\'t.. its like driving a Bloody Tank and not a sexy member of the S.T.A.R.S TEAM.

Left a bit..no Right a bit... Fire... No wait back of zombie with a speed of a slug now too close....

Also as far as Horror goes .. its a pit Piss Poor...ESP when you hold it up Against The Silent Hill Series :D....

RE = Long in the tooth and needs some REVAMP\'n....
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 08, 2003, 06:10:48 PM
I love RE controls. Anything else would not work.

The controls was meant to be un-precise and make you nervous and they deliver on that.
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: Unicron! on March 09, 2003, 03:34:07 AM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I love RE controls. Anything else would not work.

The controls was meant to be un-precise and make you nervous and they deliver on that.


Good point.
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: kopking on March 09, 2003, 03:04:13 PM
yea, im totally used to the controls, i think they suit it fine, plus with the angles always changing it would be hard to put the dmc controls in, esp as you in smaller rooms that dmc
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: GmanJoe on March 09, 2003, 09:15:11 PM
Zombies would be chopped rather easily though. I could definitely use the DMC controls with just the knife. :)
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: dawid22 on March 09, 2003, 10:38:30 PM
Agree, the RE controls should stay as it is.  With the game being based on prerendered backgrounds I can not see the controls working any better.
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on March 09, 2003, 10:57:32 PM
All that the RE controls needed were auto-lockon, and 180degree turn functions..

And those were added a long time ago.

How can anyone complain?

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Left a bit..no Right a bit... Fire... No wait back of zombie with a speed of a slug now too close....


You must completely suck at the games to have these problems.
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: ooseven on March 10, 2003, 12:59:39 AM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
I love RE controls. Anything else would not work.

The controls was meant to be un-precise and make you nervous and they deliver on that.


no its the fact that the game controls are So un-precise that the Zombie Fighting is Dull while the Boss Battles far too unbalanced.

the Tyrant fight on the Cargo plane in RE:VC is a prime example.

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You must completely suck at the games to have these problems.




No... its just that i can\'t Stand a Series that just release game after game with very little in innotive gameplay.

RE 1= Superb
RE 2 = Great but a little of the same
RE 3 = Oh God... this is starting to smell like another Tomb Raider
RE : CV = I played the DMC demo more
RE 1 (NGC remake) : Zzzzzzzzzzzzz  :snore:  only played about a hour...going to trade it in to get Metroid Prime.
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: Hawke on March 10, 2003, 01:19:36 AM
I for one absolutely hate the RE controls.. I loved the games back in the RE - RE2 days. I just loved being blessed with the skills of zigzagging through Resident Evil 2 with only a handful of kills. But after DMC came out, I realized I like more and flashier action. RE:CV felt like a horrible chore, and in the end I pretty much hated it, and I haven\'t gotten more than 10 screens into RE3 and got bored of it...

Agreed, an RE game with DMC controls would be silly. Why? Dante\'s half demon, the RE bunch normally ain\'t (maybe Dante should bite their frikkin\' necks if that did the trick). But honestly, you have to wonder; you got these super highly trained special forces and cops and stuff, and they are about as agile as turtles in quicksand. Real turtles, not those ninja mutant ones... I\'m just annoyed by it nowadays. Silent Hill is much better when it comes to horror. RE is cheap shocks galore... bah...
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: ooseven on March 10, 2003, 01:27:14 AM
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Originally posted by Hawke
I\'m just annoyed by it nowadays. Silent Hill is much better when it comes to horror. RE is cheap shocks galore... bah...


your not the only one buddy...

Silent Hill is THE KING of Horror.

i have fealt more terrorfied at the prospect of whats behind the next door in Silent Hill than Resident Evil anyday.

Also in this Day in age Do we realy need the door loading times as seen in EVERY GOD DAMN RESIDENT EVIL game since the First one :rpissed: .


DMC showed you could have more detail and possibly "Data" without the need to disguise loading times with a crappy animation of a door opening


Also could we please have a RE game with out the Goddamn need to use type writer cartridges to save your game… it just takes up too much time to go running back to the supply box and get one
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on March 10, 2003, 09:36:48 AM
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Originally posted by ooseven
No... its just that i can\'t Stand a Series that just release game after game with very little in innotive gameplay.


We\'ve had this discussion before.  RE has had more updates with each installment than Silent Hill has.

Silent Hill 3 looks to continue the rehash trend.

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no its the fact that the game controls are So un-precise that the Zombie Fighting is Dull while the Boss Battles far too unbalanced.

the Tyrant fight on the Cargo plane in RE:VC is a prime example.


Un-precise?  I can weave inbetween zombies with ease, stop, shoot out ones head while a second is coming at me from behind, then run away past another zombie and take them both out (in a constrained corridor mind you - actual example) with no problems.  Yah, that\'s imprecise :rolleyes:.  I hate when developers are so careless that they make controls that go exactly where you want the character to go.

Oh, and the boss fight against Tyrant on the cargo plane was easy.  Like I said, you suck.

And besides, you find the regular zombie killing dull (considering your objective is to AVOID the zombies, not just shoot them all, though I blame the decrease in difficulty for allowing people to kill all the zombies and still have plenty of bullets), you\'d think you\'d appreciate the more action packed, and quick thinking boss battles.

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Also in this Day in age Do we realy need the door loading times as seen in EVERY GOD DAMN RESIDENT EVIL game since the First one  .


DMC showed you could have more detail and possibly "Data" without the need to disguise loading times with a crappy animation of a door opening


It\'s not disguising load times.  It\'s there for effect.

Oh, and more detail?  Yah, DMC had more detail than REmake and RE0 :rolleyes:

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Also could we please have a RE game with out the Goddamn need to use type writer cartridges to save your game… it just takes up too much time to go running back to the supply box and get one


You mean, going all the way back to the supply box, that 99% of the time is RIGHT NEXT TO THE SAVE SPOT?

Oh, and yah, unlimited saves in RE = bad idea.
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: Ashford on March 10, 2003, 10:50:29 AM
I\'ll take door loading scenes over "Now Loading" anyday...

And the DMC controls are annoying in that whatever direction I\'m pushing the analog, when the camera angle changes, I have to hold the direction or I end up running the wrong way. Nothing like going in the wrong direction when you\'re in a heated battle. At least RE is consistent...
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 10, 2003, 01:47:48 PM
If you thought the Tyrant battle in RE:CV was hard, than you just sucked at the game. How hard is it to unload some heavy weapons and then push an enemy out of the hatch? Geeze.

As for the door loading scenes, it is there for an effect. Yeah, they could of had a scene where it just went black or something saying "Now Loading", but it isn\'t near as intense as goin\'t o a door, opening it and it opening slowly. It provides suspense.

As for the controls - that\'s personaly preference. But I tend to agree with Bobby and Ashford. I prefer the RE control scheme over the DMC one, espically in a survival horror.

Oh and Silent Hill sucks. Terrible enemy design and a over use of fog.
Whoopie!
Well, I take that back. Silent Hill was great. Silent HilL 2 was just downright boring.
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on March 10, 2003, 09:22:05 PM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Well, I take that back. Silent Hill was great. Silent HilL 2 was just downright boring.


It did have it\'s moments, though.  Particularly the storyline twist.  :)
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: GmanJoe on March 11, 2003, 05:48:20 AM
Silent Hill made me scared. I never could get the guy to go into the backyard. I was afraid for  him. So I kept him in the house and looked for a TV. :p
Title: Resident Evil with DMC controls = too easy?
Post by: kopking on March 12, 2003, 01:42:48 PM
sh 1 was excellent, and unnerving, but my most fav on now goe to project zero /fatal frae, much more un-nerveing