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Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: Rya on March 08, 2003, 02:08:29 PM
A kamakazi pilot who lives after a mission is a...
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: CHIZZY on March 08, 2003, 02:20:03 PM
I figure, if he has committed to his own death-and is hoping for rewards in the afterlife, then...

HE BLEW IT!

;)
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: videoholic on March 08, 2003, 03:10:36 PM
Kamakazi pilots weren\'t suicide bombers.  THey just used their planes as weapons since they wouldn\'t have made it back to land anyway.
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: mm on March 08, 2003, 03:27:58 PM
yes, they weren\'t assigned to die before they left the ground
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: shockwaves on March 08, 2003, 03:31:19 PM
If he survived by pulling away too soon to save his own life and missing his target, then he\'s a failure.  If he hits his target and survives, he\'s a survivor
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: Titan on March 08, 2003, 03:32:46 PM
Their job is to die so I\'d say unless they eject and destroy their target, its a failure.
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: (e) on March 08, 2003, 03:40:24 PM
I\'d classify it as a failure. They were suppose to die right?

But also, they completed most of their mission, and can be used again...

Damn, :( I want to change my vote
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: clowd on March 08, 2003, 05:14:13 PM
I swear nobody reads mm\'s posts
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: Avatarr on March 08, 2003, 05:35:27 PM
Kamikazi pilots who didn\'t die with their plane kill themselves with harikir anyway (unless they\'re cought in time) .. so they die just the same.
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: (e) on March 08, 2003, 07:57:03 PM
harikir? explain...
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: videoholic on March 08, 2003, 08:01:53 PM
Apparently they really did know they were going to die.  I found this article which has some cool photos in it.

http://www.airgroup4.com/kamikaze.htm
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: (e) on March 08, 2003, 08:07:12 PM
Losing one soldier for killing thousands seems like a small sacrafice.

I dont see why this idea would be rejected... Althought cowardly, clever.
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: Avatarr on March 08, 2003, 11:52:26 PM
harikiri is ceremonail suicide. old samurai used to do it when they were dishonoured; like if they got drunk and raped someone.
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: (e) on March 09, 2003, 11:56:48 AM
If they raped someone?
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: Kurt Angle on March 09, 2003, 12:01:56 PM
He is a survivor because he survived.
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: fastson on March 09, 2003, 05:16:59 PM
I read in a book called "Tech war" that the Japanese designed special planes for kamikaze pilots, one of them was called Ohka (Japanese codename), Baka (American codename .. Means madman) that was attached to a twin-engine "mother plane" ..
When they approached the target they would detach from the mother plane and glide towards the target..

As they approached it the pilot in the Ohka would light the jet engine and the little plane would accelerate to about 1100km/h .. Smashing right into the target.

The Ohka was basically a big flying bomb weighting 1200 kg, but it had a human in it.
The Ohka was a very successful "bomb" ..

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.bibl.u-szeged.hu%2Fbibl%2Fmil%2Fww2%2Fkepek%2Fspec%2Fohka3.jpg&hash=005cfd14e638d7adb0fb72ed6b3ea26fb70c4a74)

As for the question.. I guess they were failures.
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: mm on March 09, 2003, 07:38:26 PM
actually, karakiri was for shamed government officials and the like, and involved a grand ceramony with spectators.

the samurai\'s of old performed what is called, sepaku.
they did it if thier master (or lord) died, or if they failed in battle (and somehow lived)
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: (e) on March 09, 2003, 07:47:29 PM
oh sepaku , i\'ve heard of that.
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: Sara on March 09, 2003, 08:44:16 PM
coward, survivor, failure...blah blah blah

There\'s only two words to describe what he is:  LUCKY  BASTARD   That man needs to go buy a lottery ticket
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: ooseven on March 10, 2003, 02:12:01 AM
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Originally posted by mm
actually, karakiri was for shamed government officials and the like, and involved a grand ceramony with spectators.

the samurai\'s of old performed what is called, sepaku.
they did it if thier master (or lord) died, or if they failed in battle (and somehow lived)


Good info...

The only problem is we are still trying assign a term for What Shamed Japanese X box executives do to themselves.

;)

p.s.

i agree with Sara the man needs to go buy a lottery ticket.
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: project86 on March 10, 2003, 04:02:35 AM
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Originally posted by Sara
coward, survivor, failure...blah blah blah

There\'s only two words to describe what he is:  LUCKY  BASTARD   That man needs to go buy a lottery ticket
Ah yes, finaly a post worth reading. Although I will say that anybody attempting this no matter the circumstance has got to be an idiot or a fanatic.
Title: Kamakazi question
Post by: Kurt Angle on March 10, 2003, 11:40:44 AM
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Originally posted by project86
anybody attempting this no matter the circumstance has got to be an idiot or a fanatic.


Super Dave Osborne perhaps?;)