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Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: ooseven on March 23, 2003, 07:51:38 AM
Oh my God :eek:

they are showing live interviews with US POW\'s on Al-Jazeera.

there are beleved to be 9 or so US POW\'s being shown LIVE on the Arab Satalite channel.

they have it on a live link up on NEWS 24 (BBC channel which i am watching NOW).

so far there are 2 on the screen NOW and from the looks like one Badly injured or maybe even dead.

the BBC channel cut the link as soon as the camera zoomed on the "fallen" POW.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: ooseven on March 23, 2003, 08:04:13 AM
no new news as yet (in regards to web based news)

but the update from news 24, is that they were interviewed live by Al-Jazeera while Iraqi officials interigated them.

will provide links as soon as possible.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: fastson on March 23, 2003, 08:26:50 AM
http://www.bbc.co.uk/newsa/n5ctrl/live/now4.ram

Live Feed from BBC
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: ooseven on March 23, 2003, 08:28:57 AM
here is the news story

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Iraqi TV shows US prisoners

 
The prisoners were asked to identify themselves
Iraqi television has broadcast pictures of five American soldiers it says were captured in the southern city of Nasiriya.

Two of the captured, including a woman, appeared to have been wounded. One of the men was lying on the floor on a rug.

The five are believed to be the first coalition prisoners taken by Iraq.

They were questioned on air and gave their names, military identification numbers and home towns


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/2878521.stm
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: videoholic on March 23, 2003, 08:43:46 AM
They won\'t show it in the US.  THey are talking about it and explaingin what\'s on the tape, but they wo\'t show it.  I assume it\'s because the families aren\'t completely notified yet.

Executed POWs.  God these Iraqis are whacked.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: ooseven on March 23, 2003, 08:49:01 AM
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Originally posted by videoholic
They won\'t show it in the US.  THey are talking about it and explaingin what\'s on the tape, but they wo\'t show it.  I assume it\'s because the families aren\'t completely notified yet.

Executed POWs.  God these Iraqis are whacked.


Executed... its too early to say , they could of be executed or they could of been killed out in the battle zone and brought back with the POW\'s for show... either way its STILL BAD.


but if you click on Fastson\'s Direct Feed Link then you will get the News 24 programme that i am watching now.

i have tested it out and their is about a 30 second delay from UK TV and internet feed.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: videoholic on March 23, 2003, 08:50:42 AM
I had to DL the Real player.  Stupid thing.  I\'m going now.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: Tyrant on March 23, 2003, 08:53:13 AM
i just saw this on al-jazeera (extermly graphic video), i could count 4-7 bodies (maybe more)  4 were clearly visible, but then they went to another scene in which atleast 3 bodies were shown. (i\'m not sure if these were the same people in the first scene or not).

i wonder how this news will fare in the U.S.

btw vid were did u read about executed pows?
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: GigaShadow on March 23, 2003, 08:54:25 AM
Executing POW\'s???? Oh there is going to be hell to pay in Baghdad when this done.  This could dwarf the number of enemy executed after the Nuremburg Trials when its all over with.

Sorry if I sound pissed, but there are just certain things that really get me and this is one of them.  Does Iraq not realize they have already lost its just a matter of time and when the end does come do the people that are responsible for the mistreatment of POW\'s not realize they will be held accountable?
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: videoholic on March 23, 2003, 08:55:10 AM
That\'s what they are saying on the news.  They aren\'t saying they are definitely exectued.  They are just saying it looks like they were.  They aren\'t showing it here yet.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: GigaShadow on March 23, 2003, 08:55:29 AM
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Originally posted by Tyrant
i just saw this on al-jazeera (extermly graphic video), i could count 4-7 bodies (maybe more)  4 were clearly visible, but then they went to another scene in which atleast 3 bodies were shown.

i wonder how this news will fare in the U.S.

btw vid were did u read about executed pows?


Well even if they died in combat displaying their bodies on TV is barbaric.  Yes, I said it, barbaric.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: videoholic on March 23, 2003, 08:57:05 AM
Stilll waiting.  They keep babbling on and on about the plane we accidently shot down.  As if That\'s a big deal..  heh..

ANyway, still waiting.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: ooseven on March 23, 2003, 08:59:10 AM
like i said its FAR too earily to say if they were Executed or if the Iraqi\'s just brought back the bodies from a fight near on of the citys.

Again either way its bad...

and Giga you will find that the worrying fact that IF they were executed then i don\'t think the people who did it care as they are already sided with the wrong side long ago.

in other words they are back in to a corner and will do anything because they have nothing to lose....
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: GigaShadow on March 23, 2003, 09:01:04 AM
Here is a link from Fox News:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,81911,00.html

disgusting...
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: ooseven on March 23, 2003, 09:02:45 AM
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Originally posted by videoholic
Stilll waiting.  They keep babbling on and on about the plane we accidently shot down.  As if That\'s a big deal..  heh..

ANyway, still waiting.


NEWS 24 works on a hourly cycle.

if new news comes up then they will introduce it.

in other words, hold tight vid it should be us soon they have just showed the earilyer story about Donald Runsfeld

update
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oh and they (the BBC) have just said that they will not show it again, until they can do more editing work so that it won\'t upset families of those involved.

expected showing time ... maybe another hour.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: videoholic on March 23, 2003, 09:08:18 AM
Well by then they would probably show it on our air anyway.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: Tyrant on March 23, 2003, 09:14:24 AM
vid dont u get al-jazeera over there?
if u can, get it.  it would be good that in some ways it gives you a whole different perspective on certain topics. (even tho their extremely biased some times).

btw giga i totally agree with you it was barbaric to show the bodies of those soldiers especially in that state.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: fastson on March 23, 2003, 09:29:21 AM
Here are the pictures of the marines that are alive.

http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/nyheter/story/0,2789,280653,00.html
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on March 23, 2003, 11:22:50 AM
Bad luck for these guys :(
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: Titan on March 23, 2003, 12:42:18 PM
If they kill those POWs, hells gonna break loose over there.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: videoholic on March 23, 2003, 12:48:14 PM
No, we don\'t get aljazeera although I have heard there have been talks that it may come over here soon.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: luckee on March 23, 2003, 12:59:00 PM
Playing devils advocate for a moment......

This is war after all. Like so many of you have said..ppl will die. Both good and bad.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: Titan on March 23, 2003, 01:14:13 PM
Which side is good and which side is bad? According to Saddam, he is the good guy and we are the bad guys but according to us, we are the good guys and he is the bad guys. I believe there is no good or bad guy in war, just enemies.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: fastson on March 23, 2003, 04:54:15 PM
I have seen it now.. Horrible stuff.

I have a link but I dont think I should post it.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: luckee on March 23, 2003, 10:12:10 PM
PM me the link and I\'ll make the call and possibly take the heat.

If for nothing else, I just want to see it as well.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: Living-In-Clip on March 24, 2003, 08:24:13 AM
As do I.
PM the link.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: Green Meanie on March 24, 2003, 09:06:35 AM
Would I be able to have a copy of that link too please?
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: Jumpman on March 24, 2003, 09:11:27 AM
pm that to me too
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: Tyrant on March 24, 2003, 09:25:46 AM
well if you guys r gonna watch it, be aware that it contains really disturbing images, most of which are closeups of  head wounds.
the worst part of the video is that the soldiers faces can be clearly identifed, i can\'t even begin to imagine the tourment that, that video would cause the families of those killed if they ever saw it.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: Toxical on March 27, 2003, 07:40:52 PM
Those iraqi animals ! they should be all hanged by the balls and cooked over the oil until golden crisp..

As for the POW treatment, and filming, ... well we film their POW\'s .. so if we do it, then why shouldn\'t they?
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: luckee on March 27, 2003, 07:46:20 PM
Yes, but when we do it, it is basically just footage.

When the Iraqi soldiers do it, it\'s more of a humiliation and that is where the problem lies from what I understand.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: Toxical on March 27, 2003, 07:51:27 PM
as long as they do not torture them, or subject them to physical pain in any form ... i\'d be ok with it... i\'d rather them show them on tv, then them hiding them and beating the living shit out of them. Then again, i\'d ****ing nuke that goat ****ing town to kingdom come by now.. Go Reagan Years !
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: SwifDi on March 27, 2003, 10:34:09 PM
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Originally posted by Titan
Which side is good and which side is bad? According to Saddam, he is the good guy and we are the bad guys but according to us, we are the good guys and he is the bad guys. I believe there is no good or bad guy in war, just enemies.


Whose good and whose bad is irrelevant, people are dying.
Title: US POW\'s now shon on Al-Jazeera
Post by: Titan on March 29, 2003, 06:51:11 PM
^^^True dat but people die, innocent or not, in war. Thats the sad thing about it.