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Title: Idiots get killed - or so Iraq claims
Post by: GigaShadow on April 01, 2003, 07:04:02 AM
Some human shields bit the dust... or so Iraq claims.

http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/meast/04/01/sprj.irq.sahaf/index.html
Title: Idiots get killed - or so Iraq claims
Post by: mm on April 01, 2003, 07:10:25 AM
well, what did they expect when the iraqi "elite" soldiers:

- dress as civilians
- feign surrender and then start firing when within range
- freely use iraqi citizens as human shields


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The soldiers fired on the van carrying the Iraqis when it failed to stop after repeated warnings


got what they deserved
Title: Idiots get killed - or so Iraq claims
Post by: GigaShadow on April 01, 2003, 07:16:26 AM
Oh I agree mm, the van incident was a direct result of Iraq advertising that suicide bombings were going to become a common method of attack, but the article I linked to is about some US human shields in a bus on their way to Baghdad.
Title: Idiots get killed - or so Iraq claims
Post by: luckee on April 01, 2003, 07:26:12 AM
What about the Syrian bus that was hit by a US missle?

As for the guy in the truck or the family incident. I dont really blame the soldiers since they have had to deal with false surrenders and all, but still I dont necessarily blame the Iraqis either. Most do not trust us b/c of the false promises and bombings of shelters in the last war.
Title: Idiots get killed - or so Iraq claims
Post by: GmanJoe on April 01, 2003, 07:41:45 AM
Some of those bomb shelters had Iraqi artillery on top of it.

As far as the van full of women and children - was it an Iraqi man driving it? Is it possible that the Iraqi military sacrificed the women and children as a ploy to make the US military look barbaric? They knew the US would fire upon a vehicle if it did not stop at the check point.
Title: Idiots get killed - or so Iraq claims
Post by: luckee on April 01, 2003, 07:44:42 AM
Gman..even the US confirmed that they did infact bomb targets that they shouldnt have. Not all of those shelters had military men or equipment on, near, or around them. Like I said, it is even documneted and admitted by our own government.

You are correct though, as that was the case often as well.
Title: Idiots get killed - or so Iraq claims
Post by: GmanJoe on April 01, 2003, 07:53:59 AM
That\'s why I said "SOME" of the shelters. Not "ALL".
Title: Idiots get killed - or so Iraq claims
Post by: clowd on April 01, 2003, 02:27:39 PM
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Originally posted by mm





got what they deserved


yes the children got what they deserved :rolleyes:
Title: Idiots get killed - or so Iraq claims
Post by: mjps21983 on April 01, 2003, 11:45:40 PM
the childrend didn\'t and it is said for the second bus was a women driving, isn\'t it illegal in most Muslim run countries for women to drive??? Sounds like more Iraqi conjured shit now!!! I just wish Hussein had the balls to do that instead of innocent women and children being forced
Title: Idiots get killed - or so Iraq claims
Post by: luckee on April 02, 2003, 12:25:32 AM
Since no military officials werent on board, maybe they were just trying to get the hell away from the drama currently infesting Iraq.
Title: Idiots get killed - or so Iraq claims
Post by: Tyrant on April 02, 2003, 04:15:56 AM
tho the children did\'nt deserve to die that way, but at the same time it was\'nt the troops fault that they were being used as sheilds by saddams minions.

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Originally posted by mjps21983
the childrend didn\'t and it is said for the second bus was a women driving, isn\'t it illegal in most Muslim run countries for women to drive??? S

man some of yer guys info on the arab world is so backward, women are allowed to drive everywhere in the arab world even in saudi as i know and have seen many saudi women who drive.
Title: Idiots get killed - or so Iraq claims
Post by: CHIZZY on April 02, 2003, 05:53:46 AM
must be hard to drive with a sheet over your head. I think that could actually make women drive worse. ;)
Title: Idiots get killed - or so Iraq claims
Post by: GmanJoe on April 02, 2003, 06:29:47 AM
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Originally posted by Tyrant
man some of yer guys info on the arab world is so backward, women are allowed to drive everywhere in the arab world even in saudi as i know and have seen many saudi women who drive.


False. Women are not allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia. When my parents were there, my mother was not allowed to drive at all.
Title: Idiots get killed - or so Iraq claims
Post by: Tyrant on April 02, 2003, 06:44:34 AM
dude maybe that was a long time ago, but right now i have definately seen saudi women driving (i think the rule in saudi is that as chizzy put it wear a sheet over their head or was it that the windows should be tinted, i cant remember) as for Bahrain their are no restrictions what so ever.
Title: Idiots get killed - or so Iraq claims
Post by: GmanJoe on April 02, 2003, 06:53:07 AM
This was back in 1982-1987. My mother was not allowed to drive. As for the women you saw driving, it may have been an opportune moment when they took their chances to drive. As far as I know, it\'s still not allowed.

During the first Gulf War, the American women were seen driving by the Saudi women. A year later, it was reported on TV that several Saudi women protested by driving as a convoy around a block in some city in Saudi Arabia.
Title: Idiots get killed - or so Iraq claims
Post by: Kurt Angle on April 02, 2003, 08:00:54 AM
Women are allowed to drive in Saudi Arabia but they have to have blacked out windows. I saw a TV show about Arabs and their fast cars and this was shown and mentioned.