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Title: America the Beautiful
Post by: SirMystiq on April 05, 2003, 08:12:40 PM
Hey guys I got this cool email the other day. I wanted to know how can I post it here. It has words and pictures.
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Post by: Tyrant on April 05, 2003, 08:20:02 PM
thru attachments, or find a host which allows remote linking of the pics.
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Post by: SirMystiq on April 05, 2003, 08:24:36 PM
"AMERICA!"


Osama Bin Laden, your time is short;
We\'d rather you die, than come to court.
Why are you hiding if it was in God\'s name?
You\'re just a punk with a turban; a pathetic shame.

I have a question, about your theory and laws;
"How come you never die for the cause?"


Is it because you\'re a coward who counts on others?
Well, here in America, we stand by our brothers.

As is usual, you failed in your mission;
If you expected pure chaos, you can keep on wishing
Americans are now focused and stronger than ever;
Your death has become our next endeavor.

What you tried to kill, doesn\'t live in our walls;
It\'s not in buildings or shopping malls.
If all of our structures came crashing down;
It would still be there, safe and sound.
Because pride and courage can\'t be destroyed;
Even if the towers leave a deep void.

We\'ll band together and fill the holes
We\'ll bury our dead and bless their souls.

But then our energy will focus on you;
And you\'ll feel the wrath of the
Red, White and Blue.

So slither and hide like a snake in the grass;
Because America\'s coming to
kick your ass!!!
Title: America the Beautiful
Post by: SirMystiq on April 05, 2003, 08:26:09 PM
Here\'s another one:
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Post by: SirMystiq on April 05, 2003, 08:27:46 PM
MORE:
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Post by: SirMystiq on April 05, 2003, 08:29:46 PM
I wish there was a better way:
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Post by: SirMystiq on April 05, 2003, 08:30:54 PM
A few more:
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Post by: SirMystiq on April 05, 2003, 08:32:02 PM
HERE YA GO:
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Post by: SirMystiq on April 05, 2003, 08:33:35 PM
THE LAST ONE:
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Post by: Ace on April 05, 2003, 09:24:08 PM
Very cool pics. I\'ve only come across one of them.

Ace
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Post by: Viper_Fujax on April 05, 2003, 09:53:56 PM
unicron said to tell you guys that thats all propoganda and that he heard somethign on his special televison that uncle sam is blasphemy and the statue of liberty doesnt move so thats propoganda :D. J/K

Awesome poem with the pictures.
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Post by: Cosmo on April 05, 2003, 09:56:16 PM
Cool pics
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Post by: Unicron! on April 06, 2003, 01:42:34 AM
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Originally posted by Viper_Fujax
unicron said to tell you guys that thats all propoganda and that he heard somethign on his special televison that uncle sam is blasphemy and the statue of liberty doesnt move so thats propoganda :D. J/K

Awesome poem with the pictures.


Ofcourse it is:rolleyes:

What?Were you so worried I was going to answer that u replied first to my post I didnt even post yet?:D

BTW: Dont put words into my mouth like "special television" just to quip me

BTW2:I dont know if I have to laugh or cry about the 11 Spetember incident one.Because thats your government\'s policy\'s fault.
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Post by: luckee on April 06, 2003, 04:20:06 AM
I\'ll allow what you said, but im warning you now that you are treading in dangerous waters with some of these members with your last sentence(BTW2)
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Post by: Unicron! on April 06, 2003, 04:35:23 AM
In case you havent noriced I was talking about this pic

(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.psx2central.com%2Fforums%2Fattachment.php%3Fpostid%3D393601&hash=59e4320fff4ea1ad3470b33dd78f2cdeb1cb8b9c)

The "funny"(ironic) thing is that If it wasnt for your government\'s bad foreign policy this would have never happened. I should better cry for your governemnts actions:mad::( which is leading to more crisis.
And now it is presented like a reason to attack Iraq(Did u know that Bin Landen was against Saddam\'s regime because it was political and not religious?)
This incident wasnt to cause an economical shock or a national shock to the American nation.Bin Landen wanted to provoke a sacred war.
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Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on April 06, 2003, 08:23:54 AM
Very nice thread guys. Congrats.
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Post by: Halberto on April 06, 2003, 10:23:38 AM
Unicorn everytime you write, you look more and more stupid.
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Post by: Ryu on April 06, 2003, 10:27:43 AM
Be careful Vivi, he may consider your post to be propoganda supporting the war effort. :rolleyes:
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Post by: luckee on April 06, 2003, 10:56:23 AM
Vivi, first and foremost..I\'d watch my mouth about who I called stupid.

Second, watch the insults
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Post by: (e) on April 06, 2003, 11:11:17 AM
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The "funny"(ironic) thing is that If it wasnt for your government\'s bad foreign policy this would have never happened. I should better cry for your governemnts actions which is leading to more crisis.



And wherever the ****ing hell you live its better? Glad to hear it
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Post by: Coredweller on April 06, 2003, 11:49:28 AM
The word propoganda technically has a very broad definition, so I\'d say there\'s no doubt this stuff is propoganda.  It even fits traditional concepts of propaganda from other 20th century wars as most people understand them.  Don\'t take it personally, it doesn\'t have to be a bad word.  We\'re surrounded by propoganda all the time.

Luckee: Which part of BTW2 were you referring to?  I don\'t see anything wrong with Unicron saying that.
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Post by: SirMystiq on April 06, 2003, 11:53:03 AM
HAHAHA...Luckee where did you get that cool Avatarr!!!!

I just noticed it because I didn\'t know I had the Avatarr thingy off.

HAHAHAHA
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Post by: (e) on April 06, 2003, 12:25:41 PM
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Originally posted by Coredweller

Luckee: Which part of BTW2 were you referring to?  I don\'t see anything wrong with Unicron saying that.


Im guessing this part;

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I dont know if I have to laugh or cry about the 11 Spetember incident one.Because thats your government\'s policy\'s fault.


I dont see how you cant find that insulting, he is almost laughing at september 11th, and saying its our policy\'s fault :rolleyes:
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Post by: Titan on April 06, 2003, 12:38:43 PM
SirMystiq, I didn\'t read the poem yet but the pictures I\'ve seen before. They rock. Hell, I have some of them on my computer. They were my desktop for a while.

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BTW2:I dont know if I have to laugh or cry about the 11 Spetember incident one.Because thats your government\'s policy\'s fault.


So you were one of those people to celebrate what happened on 9/11 :rolleyes:
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Post by: Coredweller on April 06, 2003, 01:43:38 PM
There were two parts to BTW2:

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I dont know if I have to laugh or cry about the 11 Spetember incident


Which could be offensive if you have a thin skin (I don\'t, so I don\'t really care), AND...

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Because thats your government\'s policy\'s fault.
Which I think is true.  It\'s hard to argue against this one.  Arab terrorists attacked us because of policy decisions we made which they view as having a negative effect on them in the past.  Not very complicated.  They did not throw a dart at a map of the globe and decide, hmmm, who are we going to attack this month?
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Post by: CHIZZY on April 06, 2003, 03:03:37 PM
next stop, Cyprus... hell I bet we\'ll give it back to the Turks for letting us use their airspace.
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Post by: luckee on April 06, 2003, 04:37:13 PM
The other posters ahve it about right core. It personally doesnt bother me either, but he seems to be trying to aggitate other members intentionally.
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Post by: GigaShadow on April 06, 2003, 06:34:56 PM
luckee hit the nail right on the head.
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Post by: Ashford on April 06, 2003, 07:30:07 PM
So, you\'re basically saying 3,000+ civilians deserved to die for their government\'s actions?

Many of which who weren\'t even American?

Oh, I didn\'t include the Pentagon cause they work for the government so they deserved to die...
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Post by: Titan on April 07, 2003, 11:49:38 AM
Unicron, let me tell you something. 9/11 affected everyone around me. I live close to NYC. Two of my friends dads were in the trade center. Thank god one was late because my friend missed the bus and never made it to work and my others got out alive. Another friend of mine who\'s uncle was in the towers was scared shitless because he didn\'t hear from him. Thank god he got out alive. My uncle was with his military unit in the harbor helping to ferry people across the harbor. But, some kid in my grade wasn\'t fortunate. His father died in the towers. A decan at my church lost a nephew where the planes hit. Quite a few people in my town died in the towers, a lot with kids in elementary school or younger. So you see why I take GREAT offense when you say that it was good they came down. Those people shouldn\'t have died and all Al-Qaeda members deserve whats coming to them as well as people who aid them, like Saddam Hussein. Thats why I\'m such a big supporter of this war. He brought it on himself. America gets bombed and we just let it go. But innocent people have been dieing, our citizens and now they pushed the red button and now we are reacting, which its about time. This war should have happened two or three years ago when we first got suspicions. And those are the reasons I lose respect for anyone who bashes America.
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Post by: luckee on April 07, 2003, 04:11:11 PM
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Originally posted by Titan
and all Al-Qaeda members deserve whats coming to them as well as people who aid them, like Saddam Hussein. Thats why I\'m such a big supporter of this war. He brought it on himself. America gets bombed and we just let it go. But innocent people have been dieing, our citizens and now they pushed the red button and now we are reacting, which its about time. This war should have happened two or three years ago when we first got suspicions. And those are the reasons I lose respect for anyone who bashes America.



Stop listening to Cheney,Bush, and Flescher; sheep.

There are no proven ties between Saddam and bin laden/al qaeda.
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Post by: Ace on April 07, 2003, 04:17:43 PM
How do you you know that? The answer is that we have to wait for this war to end so the investigations can start and information that has been hidden can now be uncovered.

I would have to say the odds are in favor there is a connection.

Ace
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Post by: videoholic on April 07, 2003, 04:20:20 PM
Saddam is the leader of a country with an Al Queida terrorist camp.  He did nothing about it.  Hell, for all we know he may have built the camp for them.

I don\'t even care if he had nothing to do with Al Queida.  Or however you spell it.  He was for a fact paying people to beome suicide bombers.  That\'s pretty whacked.
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Post by: Titan on April 07, 2003, 05:13:32 PM
Why pay them to become suicide bombers? Thats like paying a kamakazi pilot to attack an aircraft carrier. Sounds kind of pointless.
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Post by: SirMystiq on April 07, 2003, 05:26:54 PM
Look at the conditions those people live in, Hussain might not only offer them money. But he might tell the person that his family will be treated right. The people killing themselves probably don\'t do it for their loyalty or whatever, rather than to provide and help their family live a better life.
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Post by: Titan on April 07, 2003, 05:36:02 PM
I didn\'t think about it like that SirMystiq. I guess your right. But do you think Saddam will actually fullfill his promise? I highly doubt it.
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Post by: SirMystiq on April 07, 2003, 05:43:22 PM
Right....Im sure Hussain keeps his promises....Just like Im going to call some hot chick and ask her to have sex with me and she\'ll say yes.....
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Post by: Ashford on April 07, 2003, 07:36:47 PM
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
Look at the conditions those people live in, Hussain might not only offer them money. But he might tell the person that his family will be treated right. The people killing themselves probably don\'t do it for their loyalty or whatever, rather than to provide and help their family live a better life.


Q: Why can\'t Saddam just give money without murdering Israelis as a requirement?
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Post by: SirMystiq on April 07, 2003, 07:39:35 PM
Why can\'t Bush just give us money without having to pay taxes?

Why can\'t Gates give away Windows XP without buying it?
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Post by: SwifDi on April 07, 2003, 07:40:46 PM
Turning your cheek while terrorist activity is going on in your country, that you\'re responsible for, makes you just as guilty as the terrorists.
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Post by: Ashford on April 07, 2003, 07:45:56 PM
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
Why can\'t Bush just give us money without having to pay taxes?

Why can\'t Gates give away Windows XP without buying it?


So you\'re saying Saddam should give money only when an Israeli is murdered...
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Post by: SirMystiq on April 07, 2003, 07:48:18 PM
No, Im saying nobody gives a way money just to be nice....
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Post by: (e) on April 07, 2003, 07:49:31 PM
Ever heard of charity?

0wn3d  :laughing:
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Post by: SirMystiq on April 07, 2003, 07:51:25 PM
^^

Have YOU ever donated money for charity...just to donate.........
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Post by: Ashford on April 07, 2003, 07:52:09 PM
Yeah...
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Post by: SirMystiq on April 07, 2003, 08:11:54 PM
Well Hussain wouln\'t
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Post by: luckee on April 07, 2003, 09:16:05 PM
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Originally posted by Ace
How do you you know that? The answer is that we have to wait for this war to end so the investigations can start and information that has been hidden can now be uncovered.

I would have to say the odds are in favor there is a connection.

Ace



Just like Iraq\'s WOMD\'s?

Im still waiting for the smoking barrels.
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Post by: Faithdies on April 07, 2003, 10:55:04 PM
Why cant people understand the world is not white and black.
Just cause you dont support the war effort doesnt mean you support terrorism.
Conformist thought is what brings about these regimes your trying to bring down.
What is so hard to understand about that?
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Post by: Ashford on April 08, 2003, 08:42:49 AM
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
Well Hussain wouln\'t


Which makes him a terrorist...

Which makes him a legitimate target in the War on Terror...
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Post by: Unicron! on April 08, 2003, 10:23:37 AM
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Originally posted by Titan
So you see why I take GREAT offense when you say that it was good they came down.


What?:eek:I cant  believe you actually said THAT!!I have never said it was good they came down!!I hate your government for this incident!!But you identify too much with your government you cant realise whats going on even if its right there in front of your own eyes.

BTW: Did you know that Israel knew the towers were going to be hit?There was not a single Israelite in the towers that specific day despite the fact that many Israelite employees worked there!
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Post by: Unicron! on April 08, 2003, 10:29:29 AM
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Originally posted by Spudz



And wherever the ****ing hell you live its better? Glad to hear it


I never said its any better.But whatever the Cypriot government decides it has to do only with Cypriot matters.
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Post by: Halberto on April 08, 2003, 10:57:23 AM
If people worked the way the Cyprus government worked, it would be horrible. That\'s like walking by and seeing an old lady on the ground knocked out and just ignoring it because the thug around the corner wants you to "mind your own business."
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Post by: Unicron! on April 08, 2003, 11:04:34 AM
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Originally posted by ViVi
If people worked the way the Cyprus government worked, it would be horrible. That\'s like walking by and seeing an old lady on the ground knocked out and just ignoring it because the thug around the corner wants you to "mind your own business."


While yours pushes the old woman which falls on the ground then steals her money and helps her back to her feet ignoring her serious injures.
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Post by: Halberto on April 08, 2003, 11:39:24 AM
I won\'t even bother. You and Clowd are pulling things out of thin air because you don\'t have any way of backing up your word. And you don\'t also have the balls to say you\'re wrong.
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Post by: Unicron! on April 08, 2003, 11:45:36 AM
Oh yeah?Thats because you are many and we are only two.Just visit an anti-war forum.Thje roles will turn.
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Post by: luckee on April 08, 2003, 12:06:15 PM
calm down children.
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Post by: SirMystiq on April 08, 2003, 04:39:57 PM
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Originally posted by Ashford


Which makes him a terrorist...

Which makes him a legitimate target in the War on Terror...


So that makes Bush, Gates, Eminem, and basically all greedy people terrorist also?
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Post by: mm on April 08, 2003, 04:57:33 PM
actually, i wouldnt mind seeing eminem and gates made a target and hunted
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Post by: Ashford on April 08, 2003, 06:05:37 PM
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Originally posted by Unicron!


What?:eek:I cant  believe you actually said THAT!!I have never said it was good they came down!!I hate your government for this incident!!But you identify too much with your government you cant realise whats going on even if its right there in front of your own eyes.

BTW: Did you know that Israel knew the towers were going to be hit?There was not a single Israelite in the towers that specific day despite the fact that many Israelite employees worked there!


http://66.165.133.65/rumors/israel.htm
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Post by: luckee on April 08, 2003, 06:10:04 PM
Hmm owned..I think so. Good job ashford.
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Post by: Ashford on April 08, 2003, 06:10:27 PM
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Originally posted by SirMystiq


So that makes Bush, Gates, Eminem, and basically all greedy people terrorist also?


I\'d have to say you are an idiot with that comment...

Saddam FUNDS terrorists...

He PAYS suicide bombers to murder Israelis...

He tortures and murders his own people to intimidate and keep them from rising against him, which is the very definition of "terrorism" - to terrorize one into fearing you...

This has nothing to do with greed...

I guess by your logic, bin Laden isn\'t a terrorist either since he just gives money and hasn\'t actually attacked any civilians...