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Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: videoholic on April 13, 2003, 09:51:49 AM

I am just curious as to where you think we\'d be right now if Gore was in charge.

Do you think we ever would have gone into Afghanistan?

Iraq isn\'t even part of this discussion because we\'d still be dealing with de Taliban right now probably.

What do you cats think?

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: shockwaves on April 13, 2003, 10:16:58 AM

I think no matter who was president, we go into Afghanistan.  To not do anything after an event like that in this country would be political suicide.  However, I do not think we would have gone into Iraq.  I guess we\'ll never know though.

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: Deadly Hamster on April 13, 2003, 10:19:12 AM

I Think we\'d be focusing more on Afghanistan and increasing our intelligence and home-land security... Honestly, Gore could have done just as badly though, and we do not know what he would have done under the situation. (This is of course assuming that Bush did a bad job, which is just my opinion.)

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: Living-In-Clip on April 13, 2003, 10:43:05 AM

Afgahnstan, yes. Iraq, no.

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: Tyrant on April 13, 2003, 11:06:44 AM

it wouldnt  matter who\'s president we\'d still be at the same place that we are today.

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: mm on April 13, 2003, 11:11:27 AM

unless clowd was president.....

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: killer6 on April 13, 2003, 11:17:55 AM

i think bush is doing a great job  and the right thing  have u not seen how the people of iraqi are welcoming us as a whole and thanking us for finally doing something about sadam we could not and can not ignore this situation im behind bush  even though some of america is not because they can not see the whole picture and are weak any ways  look at all the protesters  they are not worth much but really just whats a nice way to put this a bad interpetation of the united states

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: Titan on April 13, 2003, 11:34:27 AM

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Originally posted by mm
unless clowd was president.....

OMG. We\'d be back in the stoneage or all worshipping god at certain times. He would also ban porn, outlaw masterbating and make sure everyone reads the bible three times a year and force people to believe every word. Also, the money would have pictures of Jesus, Mary and other biblical names, street names would be changed and all religion besides his Christianity would be outlawed. Everyone would be so desperate to get out, they\'d go to France. Either that or someone would assassinate him :)

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: Coredweller on April 13, 2003, 11:41:36 AM

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Originally posted by killer6
i think bush is doing a great job  and the right thing  have u not seen how the people of iraqi are welcoming us as a whole and thanking us for finally doing something about sadam we could not and can not ignore this situation im behind bush  even though some of america is not because they can not see the whole picture and are weak any ways  look at all the protesters  they are not worth much but really just whats a nice way to put this a bad interpetation of the united states

killer6:

Take a look at your keyboard.  There\'s a button just below the "L" that makes a little dot while you\'re typing.  I know it\'ll take a little practice to learn when to use it, but for now, just press it occasionally whenever you think about it.  :)

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: (e) on April 13, 2003, 12:27:14 PM

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Originally posted by mm
unless clowd was president.....

:laughing:

God thats some good shit... :laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

Just try to imagine that...........

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: Deadly Hamster on April 13, 2003, 01:21:19 PM

Ohhh killer6, what joy you bring me :)

Okay, yeah there are people in Iraq that are happy, but that doesn\'t mean that MOST of the people in Iraq are happy. And also, do you think the happy people in Iraq will do more good then bad done by everyone else we pissed off?

And protestors are weak? why does not wanting to go to war make you weak? So if you want war you are strong?

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: videoholic on April 13, 2003, 01:57:18 PM

Protestors for this war did absolutely nothing.  WHen you have 81% of the people for the war, it\'s hard to get under 19% of the people heard.  And that\'s a good thing.

And DH, you can pretty much guarantee yourself that the only people that aren\'t happy in Iraq are the ones in the Baath party or the ones who are dead.

Well, they may not all be happy now, but they will be.  

Iraq can be a thriving country.  They have very bright people and a fantastic resource to build a strong economy.

They certainly can\'t do any worse.

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: Deadly Hamster on April 13, 2003, 02:30:04 PM

Yes, I do believe that the Iraqis will have a better life style after this, but I also think that there will be much more terrorisim in that region for some time.

And whether or not protesting accomplished anything isn\'t the point, political views do not make someone weak or not weak. Much of this war is because of fear isnt it? Pre-emtption to not let them hit us first, It may not be "Fear" but it is definetly like it, but that doesn\'t make pro-war people weak, it has nothing to do with being weak...

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: videoholic on April 13, 2003, 04:47:13 PM

How can you possibly have more terrorism than a guy who killed 100\'s of thousands of his own people?

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: Titan on April 13, 2003, 05:03:48 PM

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Originally posted by videoholic
Iraq can be a thriving country.  They have very bright people and a fantastic resource to build a strong economy.

They certainly can\'t do any worse.

I\'ll agree with you there. Now with a new government, they may no longer be a third world country. I predict in about 10-20 years, they will be a second world country (oh btw, can someone tell me the difference between first, second, third and fourth world countries?)

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: Tyrant on April 13, 2003, 11:31:03 PM

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Originally posted by videoholic

Iraq can be a thriving country.  They have very bright people and a fantastic resource to build a strong economy.

They certainly can\'t do any worse.

If only they could get over some of their petty differences.


Titan,first world countries are countries that are fully developed and self suffecient e.g. G7 countries

2\'nd world are basically countries which are about to be fully developed and are not entirely self sufficent.

3\'rd world countries are basically countries with little to no infrastracture, they also depend alot on foriegn aide.
(if theirs more or i\'m wrong somewhere. please add to, or correct my statements)

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: Living-In-Clip on April 13, 2003, 11:41:22 PM

Vid, now they have nothing to fear and without ANY sort of goverment in place. I think we\'ll see more groups fighting against each other in Iraq, not to mention, the Iraqi\'s that do disagree with us invading their country will be more prone to act in terroristic ways towards us.

That\'s just my two cents.

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: videoholic on April 14, 2003, 03:45:57 AM

Here\'s your change. ;)

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: square_marker on April 18, 2003, 10:43:23 PM

The apcolypse would have started.

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: Titan on April 20, 2003, 06:06:54 PM

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Originally posted by Tyrant


If only they could get over some of their petty differences.


Titan,first world countries are countries that are fully developed and self suffecient e.g. G7 countries

2\'nd world are basically countries which are about to be fully developed and are not entirely self sufficent.

3\'rd world countries are basically countries with little to no infrastracture, they also depend alot on foriegn aide.
(if theirs more or i\'m wrong somewhere. please add to, or correct my statements)

So what would you consider first world countries?

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: Tyrant on April 20, 2003, 08:09:02 PM

^Japan, U.S, U.K, Germany, Canada, Italy . . .

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: Titan on April 22, 2003, 05:00:38 PM

I always thought that a first world country was the world super power like America or the former Soviet Union. Guess I was wrong.

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: luckee on April 22, 2003, 05:32:14 PM

From what I was told once. A first world country is one that can be self sufficient or damn near if need be.

Title: Where would we be if Gore were the pres.
Post by: (e) on April 22, 2003, 06:43:14 PM

Yes, a third world country is a country going up on the food chain. Example country "X" isnt going anywhere with their bad crops, poor villages, etc. But country "Z" is prospering in the stock market, etc.

At least what I confer.