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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: shockwaves on April 25, 2003, 02:20:47 PM
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Ok, I know at least I want to talk about this, so hopefully some other people here will too.
The NFL Draft is tomorrow, and things are happening already. Carson Palmer is signed and all but picked by the Bengals, but more importantly, the Jets traded up to the #4 spot with the Bears. Any thoughts on any of the developments yet? And who plans on watching the draft?
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I\'ll be watching it, hopefully the Niners will pick up a WR. With Erickson at coach, they\'ll be running a single back 3 wr formation, thus need a third WR to team up with Streets and Owens (Stokes is going to be traded or released, in my mind) I almost wish that Barlow wasn\'t so young, because if we had a rb that only had a couple more years in him, I could see us getting Willis Macgehee, but won\'t.
So put the niners down as getting Kelly Washington if there are no trades. But seeing as the Niners have an extra RB in hearst, and a crap WR in Stokes, don\'t be surprised to see them deal one or both of them off and move up in the draft.
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I should add that Garcia\'s stock is not very high, so we might pick up a QB in the first round...which I\'m not a big fan of.
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The Chiefs are in a bit of a predicament as of right now. The Best case scenario is that Jerome McDougle stays around until the 16th pick, which is nearly impossible. Most likely, the Chiefs will trade down so they can pick somebody like Andre Woolfolk or Chris Kelsay, but if they\'re unable to do that, they could very well take an Offensive Lineman like Eric Steinbach from Iowa.
See Yuz.
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No Omen! WE WANT DEFENSE.
I want either a DL to compliment Andre Carter, cuz we lost both Stubblefield and Okeafor in the offseason. Imagine a top rookie pick and Andre Carter at the other end. Talk about speed, we\'ll give quarterbacks nightmares.
If we don\'t get a DL, then please find someone to replace Mike Rumph. We lost in large part to Tampa Bay because when our secondary got banged up we had no one who could step up, we need to beef up that secondary.
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The Colts in my opinion should draft a good strong safety, like Mike Doss, or possibly trade up and get a good DT.
The Dolphins need a better QB, but they are retarded and will probably pick another player to go into their deep secondary. They better pick some players on the offensive side of the ball, their defense is already solid, maybe a DLman
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Mike Rumph was a first year DB, he\'ll be a lot better this season. DB\'s take awhile to mature, so I wouldn\'t worry too much about the defensive backfield. I agree that a d-lineman would be nice, but I think that\'ll be taken care of in the second round.
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Jets take Robertson, who\'s been getting Warren Sapp comparisons all week. I\'ll take it. The one thing of Sapp\'s he doesn\'t seem to have is the mouth :)
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Rogers..... Good choice IMO by the Lions. Can\'t wait for this years football to start.
BTW, the Falcons new uniforms are the best.
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Well niners went for O-line, which is fine with me. And since they\'re trying to bring in Marcus Robertson, I can see why they didn\'t try to draft a WR.
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Giants go with a DT and a DE, which I\'m very happy with. Don\'t entirely understand why they took a TE in the 3rd round, but whatever.
Jets got a DT, a LB, and a FB. Pretty much what they needed to address, so I\'m happy. Still pissed about the whole Redskins thing, but meh, oh well.
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Well, being at the Bengals means Palmer\'s career is all but over. I feel sorry for the poor fellow - well almost..That heft contract of his should brighten his day - even if he is stuck with the worst team in NFL history.
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Well, honestly I\'d argue that the Lions are the worst team in NFL history, not the Bengals. At least the Bengals have been to 2 Super Bowls (and came damn close to winning one of them too)
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It\'s not like the Lions haven\'t been to a couple of NFL Championship games themselves.
The Chiefs got a RB with the 27th pick in Larry Johnson. What sense does this make? Your guess is as good as mine.
See Yuz.
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Buffalo took a huge chance with that msu kid.. hope he canrun... though Travis Henry should be able to do the job....
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Bucs didn\'t do crap. Unless they did something today which I didn\'t see. Yawn.
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They got Chris Simms... thats something at least.
P.S. Vid did you notice how many guy\'s from Florida the Bears drafted... seriously like 5 or 6 guys from UF.
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I saw a couple, but didn\'t see how many. Will any of them make the team though? Doubt many.
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Bucs didnt need chris simms, they were just fine w/brad, I think they shoulda atleast tried to get a good rb, cause pittman just isnt gonna get the job done. Although they have improved their offensive line which was definetly needed.
Brad had one of the best qb ratings last year, chris will probally play bench for a while.
Edit: Ugh......they\'re going to have the sack master Rob Johnson higher on the roster than Chris! Bad move by the Bucs imo.
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Dude, rookies are a huge gamble their first season. I wouldn\'t hesistate to put in R. Johnson over a rookie, no matter how good the rook is. You have to gradually work them into the system, ala Michael Vick.
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Rob Johnson is a complete joke. Hell I don\'t know if I\'d put Shane Mathews in ahead of Rob.
We are alright on RB. Pittman started to develop in the system late in the year. It will be interesting what the Bucs do next year with the system being in place for a second year. Barring injury, the bucs should be pretty darn good for the next two years at least.
Although their schedule is a toughy this year.
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Rob Johnson is with the Redskins, isn\'t he?
There was no one that late in the draft that would have filled in well as a RB. Simms isn\'t going to play right away anyway. I think for where they took him, that was a good pick.
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Colts got a TE, couple Safties, a LB, a couple OL guys and a DE. Mike Doss in the 2nd round...just like I called it :)
BTW...unless I missed something, Chris Simms is not a good QB. If you can\'t handle pressure in big games in college football, then what does that say about your chances in the NFL? Ken Dorsey in the 7th round...bah stupid combine.
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Simms has a lot more talent than Dorsey. He hasn\'t won the big game, but he has more ability to win games on the NFL level than Dorsey.
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Tony, they\'ve been saying that about Simms since his Senior year in High School, and it ultimately cost Major Applewhite a chance to show what he was really made of.
The Prototype vision of the QB as a whole is pure shit. Winning a football game means nothing once the scouts check out in Indianapolis, and I personally think that\'s a crock of shit. If Ken Dorsey was apperantly struggling to throw 15 YARDS, would he have EVER been the starter at Miami? The answer is obviously no, and where they got that stat is absolutely ridiculous. Meanwhile, Chris Simms only true big win as a Texas starter was in Lincoln last year, which is saying something, because Nebraska was in a well-documented spiral at that point, losing by 33 to Penn State and 22 to Iowa State. Chris Simms has always been touted as the next coming of his father\'s greatness, but quite frankly, it\'s a crock of shit, and I was disgusted to hear that Ken Dorsey went in the 7th round. Since when does a 39-2 record as a starter at a major collegiate school not warrant a look, I\'ll never know. I guess you could ask Tommie Frazier the same question.
See Yuz.
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No James, the prototypical quarterback thing actually has quite a bit to it. The fact is, the competition at the pro level is very different from that at the college level. And if you\'re some option quarterback who made a college career for himself as much with his legs as his arm, that might be a problem. If you\'re a quarterback whose main claim to fame wasn\'t amazing plays, but rather leading the best and most talented squad in the nation to a good record, that might be a problem. The fact is, physically, Ken Dorsey is not likely to make a good NFL QB.
Simms is a different case. Physically, he can do it all. His problem is his mental approach to the game. The mistakes he makes. And that isn\'t something you can measure. It\'s also something that is more likely to be fixable. It\'s not like Simms had an awful college career. At least in the pros he won\'t have to play Oklahoma :)
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Well one thing Mr. Dorsey has going for him is this list;
Montana, Young, Garcia....
He\'ll have ample time to mature, will be in a system with owens (if we don\'t lose him somehow), and he\'ll have incredible teachers... but then again he could follow this list;
Bono, Drukenmiller, Carmazi, and other crap QB\'s that I won\'t list