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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: GmanJoe on May 14, 2003, 07:27:12 AM
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http://www.cnn.com/2003/HEALTH/05/13/tongue.splitting.ap/index.html
:sconf: :eek:
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Check put this dude. he\'s been around for awhile.
http://www.polarboy.pwp.blueyonder.co.uk/freakyfolk/lizardman/
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I wouldn\'t like to risk anything like that. The chances of infection must be pretty high.
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How can they do this to theirselves?
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Originally posted by Unicron!
How can they do this to theirselves?
As easily as anything you do to yourself.
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I can only imagine the harder things then
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I bet his girl is a very happy lady....:eek: ;) :D
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Hey, they can do what they want. I personally see not one positive outcome that you can get from that. Attention? Most likely negative attention if any.
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I would never want to transform myself from a normal looking guy to a freak.These people are sick!!
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Alright guy\'s, first off I want to point out that tongue splitting is nothing new. CNN is just tryin\' to catch up with times. Tongue splitting has been done for years now and there is many different methods.
What\'s nasty about this? It\'s personal choice. It\'s just the same as piercing an ear, in my opinion. Getting your hair cut, piercing your ear and all those things are a form of body modification and you know what else is? Circumcision - its a body modification , that most people don\'t even have a choice on.
As for them being "sick" - you know what\'s sick? People who judge other people, soley on the fact that those people chose to modify their body how they see fit. I speak from experience. I have had more piercings in my lifetime, than most people. I had them visible and I got negative attention - did I care? No, it\'s their ignorance.
As for this tongue splitting - personally, I have considered it . I see nothing wrong with it. It\'s your body and you\'re right to modify it. Just as its your right to cut your hair.
My point to all this? It\'s personal choice and tongue splitting and other modifications are no different than the every day modification\'s we people do to our bodies. Yes, one may be more painful and less common than the other - but its no different. It\'s a person\'s right to modify their body as they see fit. You can argue that this is permanent - but so are tattoo\'s (for the most part). And you know what? At one time tattoo\'s was considered "evil" or "hardcore" modifications and now what? We see them on most people, somewhere . I can imagine a day when tongue splitting is the same.
Ignorance may be bliss - but it is also the truly "sickening" thing. Not the modifications.
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If you wanna turn your body into a pin cushion, MORE POWER TO YA! And for us....you\'re here for our amusement. Thank you. Next time, try hanging your body from fish hooks. ;)
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Your amusement? That\'s just ignorant . And the "hanging your body from fish hooks" is actual a rites of passage in a lot of cultures. What you see wrong - isn\'t. It\'s personal choice and in a lot of cultures its the everyday norm.
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Its not that gross.
Just accept their are wierd people out their.
Remember - remember you cant spell abnormal without normal.
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"When the normal become freaks..The freaks become normal."
I think that is how the phrase goes.
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Their we go- knew it was something like that.
Bleh- me and my stupid memory :laughing:
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What the??
I didn\'t think it could get any worse than face piercings.What next is someone going to pierce there nob to their head. :laughing:
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Care to explain what is wrong with face piercings as opposed to ear piercings? Your ear is attached to your head, in case you had not realized that.
I\'ve love to hear your explanation..
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Your amusement? That\'s just ignorant . And the "hanging your body from fish hooks" is actual a rites of passage in a lot of cultures. What you see wrong - isn\'t. It\'s personal choice and in a lot of cultures its the everyday norm.
Is that your culture too? Puhleez. Self mutilation is up to you. No one\'s stopping you. Don\'t feel insulted if I yank the nipple ring too hard off of you. :p
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It amazes me you classify it under self-mutilation, but yet cutting your hair, being circumsized at birth or piercing your ear isn\'t self mutilation? What\'s the point there? It makes no sense.
Right - cut the foreskin off the penis of your child. That\'s A-OK, even if he doesn\'t have a choice.
Pierce your ear - it\'s a standard, it\'s A-OK.
Get a tattoo - almost everyone has one now\'a\'days...That\'s A-OK..
Don\'t split your tongue tho\'..That\'s not A-OK.
Big contradiction, don\'t you think?
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Right - cut the foreskin off the penis of your child. That\'s A-OK, even if he doesn\'t have a choice.
In more cases than others, thats a religous practice, in which it displays the son\'s future convenant to God.
I also here that it is much more sanitary.
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It may be a "religious practice" - but so is suspension via "fish hooks". They are both religious practices - but what\'s the difference here? You can choose to suspend if you want, where as most people are circumsized when they are babies. No choice what so ever..
As for the sanitary comment. If someone keeps it washed, it\'s the same as anything, \'cept you are even more sensative. So, in retrospect, when your foreskin was cut off, you was robbed of part of your sex life.
Just food for thought.
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L-I-C, you just have to realize that some people out there just can\'t accept others. They are so self-conscience about themselves in so many ways, even if they say they arn\'t, that they have to belittle what other people like to make themselves feel better.
You guys should realize that by all of you calling people a freak and singling them out is what makes people go and shoot their schools up. Remember, it was being outcast and made fun of that drove the kids that shot up Columbine.
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don\'t feel so offended man, everyone is allowed to either like it or dislike it.
If this stuff is cool to you, well...good for you, but if others think it\'s gross, well....good for them.
I personaly don\'t like it, for one, it looks stupid (to me), and also it is not exactly a good thing for your career if you had one planning
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
It amazes me you classify it under self-mutilation, but yet cutting your hair, being circumsized at birth or piercing your ear isn\'t self mutilation? What\'s the point there? It makes no sense.
Right - cut the foreskin off the penis of your child. That\'s A-OK, even if he doesn\'t have a choice.
Pierce your ear - it\'s a standard, it\'s A-OK.
Get a tattoo - almost everyone has one now\'a\'days...That\'s A-OK..
Don\'t split your tongue tho\'..That\'s not A-OK.
Big contradiction, don\'t you think?
I have none of those. Well....except the circumcision. I was a baby. But hanging yourself by fish hooks is not part of your culture while getting you ears pierced is. But even I tell my fiance not to re-pierce her ear lobes. But it\'s your preference. Do what you want. I\'ll do what I want....like, can I attach these electrical wires to your metals? :D Actually, in real life, I don\'t mock other people as long as they behave themselves. I keep my opinions to myself as long as you don\'t ask me. :)
And Faithdies, EVERYONE is self concious. It\'s human nature to be. We\'re a species that need social contact. And its beneficial to be self-concious for many reasons like cleanliness, hygiene and health and social exceptance. Even LIC will emulate his clan just to be like them. BTW, adding more holes to one\'s body will only increase the chance of getting an infection.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Your amusement? That\'s just ignorant . And the "hanging your body from fish hooks" is actual a rites of passage in a lot of cultures. What you see wrong - isn\'t. It\'s personal choice and in a lot of cultures its the everyday norm.
Yeah thats true.I think indians(and like u said a lot of cultures) used to hang from hooks to unidentify from their body and have an out of body experience.It was some kind of meditation.
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old news..... i dont think its freaky at all, yea it may be uncommon, but its kinda cool.. personally i think body piercing is pretty god damn sweet... ive not got any at the mo, but thats is mainly due to being skint
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ut hanging yourself by fish hooks is not part of your culture while getting you ears pierced is. But even I tell my fiance not to re-pierce her ear lobes. But it\'s your preference
Piercing your ears is no more part of American culture than hanging by your "Fish hooks". Give me a break. The difference is piercing your ears is a standard, so you have no problem accepting it. That\'s the only difference.
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Well this is what most people think.
Ear piercing: not extreme, putting jewelry in your ear has been around for a long time.
Splitting tounge: Weird, freaky, why?
Making yourslef look like a lizard: WTF!?! (Too extreme)
Well, I tried to say it in the simplest way possible.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
It amazes me you classify it under self-mutilation, but yet cutting your hair, being circumsized at birth or piercing your ear isn\'t self mutilation? What\'s the point there? It makes no sense.
Right - cut the foreskin off the penis of your child. That\'s A-OK, even if he doesn\'t have a choice.
Pierce your ear - it\'s a standard, it\'s A-OK.
Get a tattoo - almost everyone has one now\'a\'days...That\'s A-OK..
Don\'t split your tongue tho\'..That\'s not A-OK.
Big contradiction, don\'t you think?
I\'m gonna take a crack at this. Circumsision, tattoos and ear piercings have come to be accepted by society. Its been like that for many many years, even ancient times people were getting tattoos, piercings and circumcisions. After all those years, its been accepted as a custom. I\'m sure when the ancients first did it, it was just as outlandish. I\'m sure in years down the road, this will be accepted. Maybe not but its possible.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Piercing your ears is no more part of American culture than hanging by your "Fish hooks". Give me a break. The difference is piercing your ears is a standard, so you have no problem accepting it. That\'s the only difference.
REALLY? Ear piercing is like...a new thing in the Western European culture? Dude....you\'re dumb. Must be all that metal in your skin. I ought to use that 45 pound industrial magnet on you.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Care to explain what is wrong with face piercings as opposed to ear piercings? Your ear is attached to your head, in case you had not realized that.
I\'ve love to hear your explanation..
Well I\'ve never had even an ear pierced,and never would.To tell you the truth I think ear piercing is for women who want another place to hang jewellery to give the impression of wealth.To me the face should just be left,you keep saying tattoo\'s are OK but I\'ve seen people with tattoo\'s on their face and to me that looks crap to.I can\'t really explain it but people with facial piercings either look like that guy from five(pom boy band) or like they haven\'t showered for a year.Either way it aint good.
Oh yeah and how is someone else cutting of your foreskin when your a baby SELF mutilation??
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I am only considering piercing my left ear, thats it, and nothing more. I\'m barely considering only my left ear, depends on how I feel during the summer.
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^ I think you got it wrong. You should do the right ear.
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^^^Ditto :)
I\'ve been thinking of piercing my left ear too. I can\'t do it until I\'m 18 though. My mom won\'t allow me.
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L-I-C has a total correct thing going on, and I agree (For once :D).
Throughout the years things that are acceptable have changed. Back in the 60\'s I\'m sure how we dress today, the music, and what is socially acceptable wasnt as how it is now. Things change- change is almost always for the better.
Making yourslef look like a lizard: WTF!?! (Too extreme)
Female Pharohs would wear fake beards to be portrait as the more powerful man.
People dye their hair blonde- why? To fit in, because I guess it is socially acceptable to kill off your hair- and have a head full of junk. People in other parts of the world do things like this too. In INDIA people stretch their necks, enlarge their ears, flatten their forheads, and shrink their feet- but its acceptable their.
This isnt that strange. The guy from Kiss did stuff like this- but was he considered a freak? No- he was considered God by some.
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Only if Magneto was real........ :nerd:
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Back in the 60\'s people wore flairs,sandles and vests.Do you think that was a change for the better or do you think it was just a fad which people now regret ever doing.
P.S Spudz free grammer leason for you:
location:Over there
possesion:Their dog was black
No charge :D
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Quite a few people around here have been doing that and some laws are being put in order so that people cant do this sort of mutilation. I wonder if they can control just one side and make them wave. lol. i think kissing a girl that had a fork tounge would be ... wierd.
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How is it self mutilation?
People have been doing stuff like this forever. So what is a tattoo? How about a piercing? It could go under "self-mutilation\'\'.
Its just on a bigger scale.
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Originally posted by Spudz
How is it self mutilation?
People have been doing stuff like this forever. So what is a tattoo? How about a piercing? It could go under "self-mutilation\'\'.
Its just on a bigger scale.
Mutilation: To disfigure by damaging irreparably; To make imperfect by excising or altering parts.
Yeah self goes under that but im being broad. And it doesnt matter how long people have been doing this because tounge forking is not common and therfore not accepted by the general public. Tattoos have been tribal for a long time, thus it has been accepted. Peircings have also held a large role in our history tribaly. When somebody over does it, of course, it is looked down upon. Its the same thing as being gay. People going against what was ordained since the begining of the earth by god (if one belives in god). sure it has been going on for some time but only now are people open about it and many respond negatively to it.
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Mutilation: To disfigure by damaging irreparably; To make imperfect by excising or altering parts.
People weightlift and damage their own bodies- yet it isnt considered odd- or nasty.
:laughing:
People cut/and dye their hair. It damages it.
People kill people in forms of mutiliation- yet they dont see it any worse than this?
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Originally posted by Spudz
People weightlift and damage their own bodies- yet it isnt considered odd- or nasty.
:laughing:
People cut/and dye their hair. It damages it.
People kill people in forms of mutiliation- yet they dont see it any worse than this?
Well the killing doesnt go without punishment. Thats one thing and people dying thier hair is common and has been done for quite some time. Somewhat similar to interracial marriages. Cutting ones hair doesnt damage it. Actually many times it heals it by getting rid of split ends. And If you also notice, most people dont like people with outrageously large muscles. Not all weightlifters go to extremes or damage their bodies.
Like i said earlier. Tounge forking is relatively new and isnt done by many and thus not accepted...yet. Who knows about the future.
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Originally posted by Spudz
People weightlift and damage their own bodies- yet it isnt considered odd- or nasty.
please find thread called "Most disgusting arms in the world"
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Ive seen the thread.
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It don\'t get more Nasty than that. :crap:
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Originally posted by Lord Nicon
Cutting ones hair doesnt damage it. Actually many times it heals it by getting rid of split ends.
WHAT THE HELL? Hair is DEAD tissue! It doesn\'t "heal" itself after it\'s cut! If hair was living tissue (since you said it "heals" itself), we\'d all die from the pain of getting our hair cut! Nails are dead tissue as well!
That cat of yours has been telling you lies. :p Get rid of the evil thing! :D
WHAT\'S WRONG WITH OUR YOUNGER GENERATION TODAY?
MTV. That\'s what\'s wrong.
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MTV gives subliminal messages.
I swear- watching it gives me this urge to eat something still alive.
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What is unacceptable in one society is the norm in others. Why this is being debated is beyond me, it\'s just a fact. Those of you trying to justify one piercing over another are full of yourselves.
By the way, the people arguing with LiC are fighting an uphill battle where the hill suddenly becomes verticle where you\'ll eventually fall off and smash through a puddle of your own stupidity. It\'s hilarious really, but fun to read. :) Keep em coming!
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He said that ear piercing isn\'t part of the Western culture. Who\'s stupid again? HA! LIC!
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Originally posted by Ryu
What is unacceptable in one society is the norm in others. Why this is being debated is beyond me, it\'s just a fact. Those of you trying to justify one piercing over another are full of yourselves.
By the way, the people arguing with LiC are fighting an uphill battle where the hill suddenly becomes verticle where you\'ll eventually fall off and smash through a puddle of your own stupidity. It\'s hilarious really, but fun to read. :) Keep em coming!
Are you talking to me???Cause the last time I checked I was allowed to have an opinion.But now I see I must love facial piercings and split tongues. :rolleyes:
I never said LIC couldn\'t do it,I just said to me it looks shit.If you think that makes me stupid,then my opinion of you just took a big dive.
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
WHAT THE HELL? Hair is DEAD tissue! It doesn\'t "heal" itself after it\'s cut! If hair was living tissue (since you said it "heals" itself), we\'d all die from the pain of getting our hair cut! Nails are dead tissue as well!
That cat of yours has been telling you lies. :p Get rid of the evil thing! :D
WHAT\'S WRONG WITH OUR YOUNGER GENERATION TODAY?
MTV. That\'s what\'s wrong.
MTV? Riiiight. I dont even watch TV. ;). Hair is dead tissue really? Thats why it can get damaged in the first place? I dont think hair is considered tissue but ok. Why do you think people create hair revitalizers? Because its not dead!. Dead ends should be cut. The hair looks healthier. Dont give me that dead tissue crap unless you can back that up Dammit! AAAA!!!! sorry a little crazy there. GMAN i think the fumes from the dog shit have messed you up man. Get a pooper scooper, seriously.
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Originally posted by Lord Nicon
MTV? Riiiight. I dont even watch TV. ;). Hair is dead tissue really? Thats why it can get damaged in the first place? I dont think hair is considered tissue but ok. Why do you think people create hair revitalizers? Because its not dead!. Dead ends should be cut. The hair looks healthier. Dont give me that dead tissue crap unless you can back that up Dammit! AAAA!!!! sorry a little crazy there. GMAN i think the fumes from the dog shit have messed you up man. Get a pooper scooper, seriously.
Ask your biology teacher if hair is a living tissue. I hope he/she laughs at you. Revitalizer? Are you dense? It makes you hair cleaner and silky. It doesn\'t make it more "livelier". Your teachers should be slapped for not teaching you this. The hair follicle IN you scalp is alive. But the part of the hair that gets cut are dead cells.
Your education needs serious help.
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/dec96/840516080.An.r.html
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
Ask your biology teacher if hair is a living tissue. I hope he/she laughs at you. Revitalizer? Are you dense? It makes you hair cleaner and silky. It doesn\'t make it more "livelier". Your teachers should be slapped for not teaching you this. The hair follicle IN you scalp is alive. But the part of the hair that gets cut are dead cells.
Your education needs serious help.
http://www.madsci.org/posts/archives/dec96/840516080.An.r.html
Wow thank you oh master of hair. And i dont even have biology. I took that a long time ago. Obviously you like to call others children to make yourself feel better. At least you took some time to be serious and not be a flat out jackass. Either way, my education needs no such tuning for it is fine and i could seriously care less about hair and wether or not it is dead.;)
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It\'s common knowledge that most 7th graders know. :p SHAME ON YOU! :D
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
It\'s common knowledge that most 7th graders know. :p SHAME ON YOU! :D
Is it? Well im far from 7th grade so forgive me for forgetting :snore:
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What? 5th grade? You really thought hair was a living tissue? And you never wondered why we don\'t bleed after we get a hair cut? BWAHAHAHA!
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Nope never cared. no im in 1st grade thank you very much:rolleyes: . Mr.Hairfolicle Man
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It\'s not about hair follicle. It\'s about common sense.
I can\'t believe you thought getting a hair cut is self mutilation!
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Originally posted by GmanJoe
It\'s not about hair follicle. It\'s about common sense.
I can\'t believe you thought getting a hair cut is self mutilation!
I didnt. Common sense? Ok ill ask random people today and see their answer. Obviously you care more than anybody else does.
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You\'re gonna ask strangers if their hair strands are live tissue?
This is too funny. :)
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Blah, blah blah.
You people also forget at one time it was considered a terrible thing to get a tattoo and some states banned them (and still have \'em banned). However, they became more and more common and now almost every damn person has one.
And I never said ear piercing was new to Western Culture - I said it was a standard. However, it is not part of our culture. It holds no actual religious meaning, therefor it is not part of the culture. It is just a standard body modification.
The "dumb" ones are the ones who cannot accept that as long as people have a body, then people will push the limits and try to modify their body to see fit. And all it takes is for someone famous to get it done and then more and more of these damn kids will emulate it and before you know it, it won\'t be as freaky as you once thought it was. The same thing happened with the tongue piercing and what not.
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i must say only this monday i decided after thinking about it a long time to get my labret pierced... i was a bit nervous, and didnt know what to expect, and went with a mate that has had a few piercings, as he was getting his eye brow done again, as the other piercings had grown out...
well needless to say how they was saying about it, i was a bit nervous, as i didnt know what it was gonna feels like....
i thought it was gonna hurt, but not to sound like a saddistic, it felt really good getting pierced.... lips still a bit swollen, and sometimes eating can be a bitch, as the piercing gets stuck on my teeth, as the bar at mo is massive..... but i really like it, and liked the feeling of it. might get some more soon
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wow. thats interesting. Yeah im getting my eyebrow pierced and some junk. Im not into the whole tounge thing. I would just be annoyed and i would never get a lip ring either. Eyebrows are just out of the way so it can look alright but you forget about it so you dont f*** with it.
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And I never said ear piercing was new to Western Culture - I said it was a standard. However, it is not part of our culture. It holds no actual religious meaning, therefor it is not part of the culture. It is just a standard body modification.
Since when does something have to be religious to be cultural? Salvewry was part of the ancient Egyption culture and it wasnt religous.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
The "dumb" ones are the ones who cannot accept that as long as people have a body, then people will push the limits and try to modify their body to see fit. And all it takes is for someone famous to get it done and then more and more of these damn kids will emulate it and before you know it, it won\'t be as freaky as you once thought it was. The same thing happened with the tongue piercing and what not.
WTF??? because lots of people have them I will not think they are stupid looking???
The "dumb" ones are the ones who can\'t accept that others have the right to think they look crap.
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That\'s pretty freaking gross. I dont believe in tattoos and all the jazz so I wont voice my opinionated ignorant opinion.
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First off, I didn\'t say you wouldn\'t think it was nasty. I said that once it becomes more popular, more people will accept it. That\'s simple facts of life, otherwise tattoo\'s wouldn\'t of caught on. You need to think back when tattoo\'s was just for "outlaws", but then marines came back with them from WW2 and other\'s came back..Then it slowly and slowly became more and more accepted, \'till the point it is almost the normal now.
As for labret piercings. I had one at one time, but the way my gums are, the stud at the back constantly rubbed and caused slow gum reccession. I noticed it early on and got rid of it. In place, I got a "medusa" which is the top lip , instead of the bottom.
Eyebrow piercings are good - but I recommend using a bar instead of ring. You don\'t know pain until you rip an eyebrow ring out or come close to it. And it\'ll happen, it happens to almost everyone.
I never said you can\'t think something is nasty - but judging the people and calling them "stupid" for doin\' what they see fit to THEIR bodies, is their right. It does not effect you. No one is forcing it onto you. You\'re given a body and it is your personal right to do what you need and want to do to it.
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I have my eyebrow, and tongue, plan on getting my left ear, or both ears done sometime.
But this whole debate over pericings, and or what body modifications are done to one\'s body is kinda lame though.
But i agree with LIC on everything he\'s said so far. Body mutalation just from pericings? Thats just retarded.
I find it that a tongue pericing is average, and not really OUT of this world or un ordinary, same goes for eyebrow.
Edit: LIC do you still have ICQ?
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yeah, i was gonna have just a bar in my eyebow anyways, i dont really like rings in there.... yea ive heard you can have it rubbing on your gums.. at the moment i dont have no rubbing.... plus i cant really tell till i have the smaller bar put in next thurs, but at mo everything seems good..... except when i catch it when im eating....arggghhhhhh
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
First off, I didn\'t say you wouldn\'t think it was nasty. I said that once it becomes more popular, more people will accept it. That\'s simple facts of life, otherwise tattoo\'s wouldn\'t of caught on. You need to think back when tattoo\'s was just for "outlaws", but then marines came back with them from WW2 and other\'s came back..Then it slowly and slowly became more and more accepted, \'till the point it is almost the normal now.
As for labret piercings. I had one at one time, but the way my gums are, the stud at the back constantly rubbed and caused slow gum reccession. I noticed it early on and got rid of it. In place, I got a "medusa" which is the top lip , instead of the bottom.
Eyebrow piercings are good - but I recommend using a bar instead of ring. You don\'t know pain until you rip an eyebrow ring out or come close to it. And it\'ll happen, it happens to almost everyone.
I never said you can\'t think something is nasty - but judging the people and calling them "stupid" for doin\' what they see fit to THEIR bodies, is their right. It does not effect you. No one is forcing it onto you. You\'re given a body and it is your personal right to do what you need and want to do to it.
Yeah,that sounds reasonable to me.It\'s just the piercing I don\'t like,I wouldn\'t hate a person beacause of it.
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Originally posted by Terry Bogard
But i agree with LIC on everything he\'s said so far. Body mutalation just from pericings? Thats just retarded.
If you actually read the thread it was about slicing your tongue in two.