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Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on May 20, 2003, 10:42:08 AM
Sony are about to lift the lid on it\'s 1st Playstation 2 shooter developed by Lost Boys Games in the Netherlands. The screens will be up around June 12th - 16th.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on May 20, 2003, 01:11:32 PM
Killzone

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Kill Zone-A specific place in space and time where firepower will be coordinated to destroy enemy forces. Terrain and obstacles are typically used to shape the battlefield so that enemy forces enter the kill zone.



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Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Unicron! on May 21, 2003, 05:46:34 AM
Is that from the UK official PS2 mag?
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: square_marker on May 21, 2003, 06:59:43 PM
......I dont think anything can beat Halo.  No, Im not a fan boy... I just dont think it could.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: JP on May 21, 2003, 09:51:11 PM
Sorry it has already been done IMO -> Half Life

Sorry but I think Halo is one of the most overrated games ever.  Looks nice tho but that doesn\'t help how it plays.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Tyrant on May 21, 2003, 10:53:12 PM
^agreed,
btw whats the point of releasing a "Halo killer" when halo 2 is gonna be released after a while.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: 182Ways on May 21, 2003, 11:11:47 PM
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THE BEST GAME WE\'VE EVER SEEN.  EVER!


Grr... If you\'re going to hype a game so much, at least make it believable.  

And "Halo Killer" (ugh...) or not, as long as the game plays damn good then I\'m all for it.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Kurt Angle on May 22, 2003, 01:14:41 AM
It was only going to be a matter of time before someone bettered halo.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Styx on May 22, 2003, 02:03:30 AM
PS2 dosnt have the power to beat Halo. I just got a XBox and Halo, I havr to say it is alsome. The PS2 isnt as stong as th Xbox. I\'m not saying that the Ps2 isnt anygood.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Heat on May 22, 2003, 02:06:59 AM
I have Cube, Xbox and PS2 so I don\'t really care which is the best, I\'ll just take both.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: ooseven on May 22, 2003, 02:45:18 AM
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Originally posted by Styx
PS2 dosnt have the power to beat Halo. I just got a XBox and Halo, I havr to say it is alsome. The PS2 isnt as stong as th Xbox. I\'m not saying that the Ps2 isnt anygood.


:sigh: :rolleyes:

Graphics Make NOT the game GOOD !

But if it runs faster then 30 FPS then it helps ;). :p

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Originally posted by Kurt Angle
It was only going to be a matter of time before someone bettered halo.


that would be Half Life 2\'s Job ;)
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Mr. Kennedy on May 22, 2003, 03:25:03 AM
please don\'t call it a "Halo Killa" your only making a fool if yourself.  If the game turns out to be terrible you look like a complete idiot.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on May 22, 2003, 06:06:41 AM
It is a Halo Killa ;)
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Rick on May 22, 2003, 10:20:50 AM
You lot are stupid. Have you not seen where it says NEW GTA GAME!!!!!
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: 182Ways on May 22, 2003, 12:20:17 PM
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Originally posted by Rick
You lot are stupid. Have you not seen where it says NEW GTA GAME!!!!!


What is there to get excited over?  It\'s pretty much a given that the game will be the same recycled engine, only in a new city. Woo.  

GTA4 info would be great, though.  But chances are that won\'t start rolling in until after more PS3 details emerge.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: EmperorRob on May 22, 2003, 12:30:05 PM
[size=8]H A L O[/size] > *[/b]
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Nu on May 22, 2003, 01:05:28 PM
^ Werd.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: square_marker on May 22, 2003, 01:41:18 PM
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Originally posted by JP
Sorry it has already been done IMO -> Half Life
 


I hate half life... it really isn\'t anything special to me.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Nu on May 22, 2003, 01:55:26 PM
^ HL is amazing too... :(
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: JP on May 22, 2003, 02:54:22 PM
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Originally posted by square_marker


I hate half life... it really isn\'t anything special to me.


hehehe that probably explains why you rate Halo so highly. Halo is a good looking but fairly average FPS. It\'s not bad but way overrated. If you care more for gfx than gameplay than I can understand why you like Halo and dislike HL. Although you\'ll never admit that of course... true or not.

I\'ve never heard of anyone say that they hate HL. Is it humanly possible to hate HL?
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Nu on May 22, 2003, 03:54:16 PM
HALO got praised for it\'s gameplay more than it\'s graphics...
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Lord Nicon on May 22, 2003, 06:57:50 PM
Halo is good an all but im wating for Halo 2. Personaly i like the TS series just as much as halo if not better. We have had this discussion before and shut your holes before pummeling me with "why, why, why" and just accept the fact. There have been many FPS but nothing that compare to Counter Strike :D.  :laughing: Well i wouldnt say that but i could care less whether Halo takes the gold.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Black Samurai on May 23, 2003, 04:54:50 AM
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Originally posted by JP
If you care more for gfx than gameplay than I can understand why you like Halo and dislike HL. Although you\'ll never admit that of course... true or not.
Stupidest. Statement. Ever.

Halo has some of the best gameplay of this generation. Not many games(if any) have comparable gameplay and storyline. The graphics are just icing on the cake.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: JP on May 23, 2003, 09:57:33 AM
That\'s your opinion, which I find a lot more stupid. A console FPS best gameplay of this generation? Yeah right... Tell me is Halo the only game you\'ve played this generation? Must be...

I found Halo boring. It\'s the same thing over and over, and also story isn\'t that great (certainly not as good as HL). I could care less what you think though coz you\'ve always been biased.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: mm on May 23, 2003, 10:15:52 AM
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Halo has some of the best gameplay of this generation.


umm, exactly what did halo add to the FPS crowd besides slightly better graphics (ignoring the 30fps crutch)

yep, nothing


half life (without a doubt) > halo
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Heat on May 23, 2003, 10:22:40 AM
How can you say that? Half Life was the most boring loads of bollox I have ever played, I only got it so I could play Counter Strike, I never even finished HL it bored me so much. Halo on the other hand was a joy to play and a joy to complete.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: mm on May 23, 2003, 10:31:31 AM
you sir, are a wierdo
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Nu on May 23, 2003, 11:50:39 AM
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Originally posted by JP
I found Halo boring. It\'s the same thing over and over

After the first 5 levels, yes. And we all know Bungie had to pretty much tack all of those extra levels on because MS wanted the game to be longer.

Before that though, the levels and situations are quite varied.

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and also story isn\'t that great (certainly not as good as HL).

Someone hasn\'t read The Fall Of Reach or The Flood. :(

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Originally posted by mm
umm, exactly what did halo add to the FPS crowd besides slightly better graphics (ignoring the 30fps crutch)

I\'ll just copy \'n\' paste my post from this (http://www.psx2central.com/forums/showthread.php?threadid=29397&pagenumber=2) thread.

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Originally posted by Nu
Mmhm... That\'s the thing that makes HALO such a nice game, it gathers all of these different elements from other FPS and combines them into this neat little package with it\'s own style. It may not do things quite as well as other FPS but considering all you\'re getting...
  • An involving story that leaves much open to be explained further through sequels or more novels.
  • Nice use of vehicles. Warthogs for making those crazy jumps and mowing down large packs of Covenant. Tanks for eliminating enemy tanks, turrents, and larger groups of Covenant. Ghosts for high speed travel.
  • A.I.... HALO is one of the more truly difficult FPS I\'ve ever played.
  • Great soundtrack.
  • Terrific physics engine. So many people have had more fun with this than the actual game.  
  • Balanced weapon system that forces you to think ahead and choose which weapons will be useful in different situations. Pistol and AR for Grunts and Jackals. Plasma Pistol and AR for Elites. Shotgun and AR for The Flood... Just a pistol for the Hunters. (Really hoping Bungie finds some way to improve the Hunter. They made them out to be such a badass race, and as soon as their weakness was discovered... Bah.) Then with the ability to throw grenades without switching weapons was a great touch.
  • A kickass multiplayer mode that\'s great for LAN parties \'n\' such. 16 player CTF in Blood Gulch or Sidewinder = Own.

... I think it\'s quite understandable why HALO recieves as much praise as it does. It has it\'s glaring flaws, of course. But they can be easily overlooked when you really consider the overall package.

But yeah, not like you elitists will care. HALO = teh overhyp3d!1 othar FSP r betar!!11one[/i]
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: mm on May 23, 2003, 12:13:38 PM
bah, your copy and paste\'d list proves nothing that halo added anything groundbreaking

again, nothing.  it sounds like a microsoft PR statement.  oh wait!   it is!!!!

halo\'s popularity was mainly driven by the lack of ANYTHING else on the system that was worth playing, and still isnt

does it bring together alot of good idea from previous FPS\'s?  sure, but it is far from the best of anything.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Nu on May 23, 2003, 12:24:46 PM
It didn\'t add anything groundbreaking, that\'s not the point I was trying to prove. Read the entire post.

It\'s popularity goes far beyond being one of the few selling points of the Xbox. You may find this very hard to believe, but lots of people, even some hardcore PC FPS players, actually find the game very, very fun to play... :eek: You have played games that you consider better, but the point I\'m trying to push is that it\'s not completely understandable why people consider HALO one of the best... Preferences of systems aside.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: KillaX on May 23, 2003, 01:43:15 PM
this FPS argument is old, your eyes can only see 30FPS and anything faster doesnt seem faster.....I beleive I saw that somewhere.....where I cant remeber


:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Nu on May 23, 2003, 01:56:19 PM
... Have you played Quake 3 at 70+ fps?

The difference is quite noticable.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Heat on May 23, 2003, 02:28:11 PM
The human eye can notice up to 60FPS I think.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: THX on May 23, 2003, 03:10:27 PM
I think someone mentioned this before but just as a reference;
GTA3 = 30fps.  GT3 = 60fps.  If you can\'t telll the difference you need glasses.

Back on topic.. Halo rocks, Half-Life rocks, and how many "Halo killers" for the PS2 have been overhyped already?  Xbox has Halo, PS2 has everything else.  I don\'t think ANY game in PS2\'s lifespan will beat Halo in that genre, yes even the first one.

And just personally, I preferred Halo slightly over HL.  The Co-op mode and the involving charcters/storyline had a lot to do with that.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: MAKAVELIUK on May 23, 2003, 04:46:30 PM
KillZone is better than Halo, trust me 4 years in development the game is gonna be a biggy.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: EmperorRob on May 23, 2003, 11:12:19 PM
U better not be the guy who writes reviews at amazon.com of items that aren\'t even available yet.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: politiepet on May 24, 2003, 04:14:24 AM
thew human eye can see up to 90 fps, anything above that number is overkill
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: fastson on May 24, 2003, 08:24:36 AM
It would be nice if Killzone could live up to the hype.

I hope it does :)

PSM2 will have a preview of it next month.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Tyrant on May 24, 2003, 09:33:52 AM
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Originally posted by MAKAVELIUK
KillZone is better than Halo, trust me 4 years in development the game is gonna be a biggy.

not neccessarily, it could turn out like "the getaway" 3 years in development and only to turn out to be a dissapointment (barring some aspects).
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: mm on May 24, 2003, 09:35:08 AM
i cannot believe you think the human eye can only see 30fps

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Xbox has Halo, PS2 has everything else


this has to be one of the wisest statements i have ever read here
i couldn\'t agree more
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: KillaX on May 24, 2003, 10:34:09 AM
I knew it was either 60 or 30......



:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: fastson on May 24, 2003, 11:28:14 AM
I found this in PSM2s rumours column.

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”OHMIGOD”
Sonys secret FPS
Sonys long awaited – you guessed it – Halo beater, will be called Killzone, not Kin as originally reported in PSM2 #35. During our recent visit to UDS in Sweden, we met a Dutch journalist who claimed to have seen the game first-hand, thanks to his friendship with Amsterdam based developers Lost Boys. Apparently, the game has a sci-fi feel, with stylised graphics that comfortably hold their own against Xboxs finest hour. Space marines – or whatever they call them – were dropped into the ‘Killzone’ via a chopper, before demonstrating some ‘tasty’ weaponry. Our source thought the game was so impressive, he feared it might be a CGI mock up. As you read this, well be looking at the game first-hand in E3. Bad news – Killzone wont be released until 2004. Good news – it should be online compatible.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Vamp on May 25, 2003, 04:54:46 AM
Any screens from the game?
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Halberto on May 25, 2003, 11:01:09 AM
I don\'t understand whats so great about Halo besides the graphics. The story wasn\'t great and the gameplay was nothing new except for the cars.


It will sound crazy to you guys but I had much more fun with Red Faction.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Ginko on May 26, 2003, 03:34:40 PM
Wow, a Halo killer and it only took them 2 years.  

Halo rocked, there is no reason to believe that Halo 2 won\'t blow the original away.  The pics have shown it has amazing graphics, the gameplay described sounds incredible.

Where is the other "halo killah", Planetside?  That one has been claiming the "killah" title for quite some time.  

I guess we\'ll have to see when Killzone is released in 2004...probably right around the time Halo 2 is released.

Sounds like a good time to be a FPS fan:)
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Nu on May 26, 2003, 04:37:00 PM
I\'ve been getting mixed Planetside impressions. I played it at my cousin\'s for a little, watched him play for most of the time... But from what I\'ve gathered: Good concept, executed poorly.

Maybe someone who actually has the game can give you their impressions.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Viper_Fujax on May 26, 2003, 04:41:19 PM
i dont have the game but other Fujax guys have it and they are hooked on it. maybe a little too much since not many of them are on raven shield as much,lol..if it comes up ill post what they say about the game
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Paul on May 26, 2003, 10:30:10 PM
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Originally posted by JP


hehehe that probably explains why you rate Halo so highly. Halo is a good looking but fairly average FPS. It\'s not bad but way overrated. If you care more for gfx than gameplay than I can understand why you like Halo and dislike HL. Although you\'ll never admit that of course... true or not.

I\'ve never heard of anyone say that they hate HL. Is it humanly possible to hate HL?


Well I hate HL...in fact I hate all FPS, so there you have it....it\'s very humanly possible to hate HL...and i never think the graphics in Halo is anything astounding...sub par 30fps with significant lag isn\'t what I would like to call state of the art.

Frankly, they both suck. But Halo probably suck just a little less.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Nu on May 27, 2003, 03:21:32 AM
Jesus still hates you, Paul.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 27, 2003, 08:32:39 AM
If for a game to have a great storyline, you have to read a separate novel, then I really don\'t think you should say the game has a great storyline.

My biggest gripe with Halo is that each of the levels went for about 30 minutes too long.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Nu on May 27, 2003, 02:14:58 PM
:o

Well, yeah I can. Did you ever pay attention to the ramblings of 343 Guilty Spark during The Library? If not, I can understand why... That level was a snore. ;)

Halo Story Page (http://halo.bungie.org/story)
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 28, 2003, 07:28:12 AM
I didn\'t say Halo had a poor storyline (though, it was far from great).  I was just attesting the notion of a separate novel being used as a form of evidence to back up claims of it having some amazing and deep story.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Nu on May 28, 2003, 12:23:56 PM
Fair nuff.
Title: Killzone to be revealed in June (Halo Killa)
Post by: Black Samurai on June 02, 2003, 08:06:27 AM
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Originally posted by JP
That\'s your opinion, which I find a lot more stupid. A console FPS best gameplay of this generation? Yeah right... Tell me is Halo the only game you\'ve played this generation? Must be...

I found Halo boring. It\'s the same thing over and over, and also story isn\'t that great (certainly not as good as HL). I could care less what you think though coz you\'ve always been biased.
Yes. I\'ve always been biased. I don\'t know to what; but since you say it, it must be true.

:rolleyes: :rolleyes: :rolleyes: