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Title: The Golden Age of Grotesque
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 28, 2003, 06:59:18 AM
Did anyone else pick this bad boy up?  If so, what are you\'re thoughts?

I\'ll save mine for when/if the replies come.. :)
Title: The Golden Age of Grotesque
Post by: Tyrant on May 28, 2003, 07:07:03 AM
I listened to it at a friends house, i gotta say i didnt like it very much except for "tainted love".
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Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 28, 2003, 07:11:30 AM
Aww..

Tainted Love is probably one of the lesser songs on the albumn, too.  Though, that could be in part due to the fact that it was overplayed on the radio when Not Another Teen Movie was released.  Certainly not as good as their remake of Sweet Dreams, IMO of course.  :)
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Post by: Cyrus on May 28, 2003, 10:15:38 AM
How about the new GOdSmack  Faceless ..... Some issues man with a chick for sure
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 28, 2003, 12:40:22 PM
Tainted Love isn\'t on the American version of the cd.

Personally, I like some of the songs such as mObsene, Use your Fists and not your Mouth and (S)Aint. The rest are for the most part very forgettable.
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Post by: (e) on May 28, 2003, 03:39:56 PM
I love it- definetly not as good as other stuff- but since they lost Twiggy of course its going to be different.

Favorites:
mObscene
Use your Fists...
Bright young things
The Golden age of grotesque.

**** it- overall a good CD. I havent purchased it because Im low on cash, but I have \'acquired\' the songs.


Alot of my likeable bands have been coming out with new stuff- so its hard to keep up (St.Anger, Deftones, staind, Godsmack, Thrill Kill etc.)
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on May 28, 2003, 10:47:04 PM
The title song has grown on me somewhat, but some of the later songs are severely lackin and one song I just can\'t stand is the swing-inspired song, which the name of the song escapes me.
Title: The Golden Age of Grotesque
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 29, 2003, 05:53:50 AM
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
The title song has grown on me somewhat, but some of the later songs are severely lackin and one song I just can\'t stand is the swing-inspired song, which the name of the song escapes me.


Meh, I think the entire albumn is great.  Though the strength lies mostly in tracks 2 - 8, the latter half has some very decent music.  Para-noir, The Bright Young Things and Better of Two Evils all rock extremely hard (IMO).

Use Your Fist and Not Your Mouth is probably the best song on the albumn, though.

Licky, are you thinking of Doll Digga Buzz Buzz Ziggetty Zag?  That song rocks!!  :D  Godmod grotesk bulesque drag!! *swings away*

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I love it- definetly not as good as other stuff- but since they lost Twiggy of course its going to be different.


I think the new guitarist has done an amazing job of fitting in.  Some really awesome riffs and melodies in there, and they all flow extremely well.

IMO, it\'s probably a better overall albumn than Holywood, though not up to their earlier works.
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Post by: ##RaCeR## on May 29, 2003, 05:57:00 AM
Marilyn is teh gay, gimme White Stripes anyday.

Tainted Love is pretty cool though.
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Post by: kopking on May 29, 2003, 07:09:05 AM
deftones new stuff isnt as good, and one of there songs is a rip off of one of there old ones..... i think the new one is called " back to school" but its literally just a bit faster version , with more rapping of "pink maggot" ... thnk thats the namer of the 2 songs..... sorry if i got them wrong, and sorry to go a bhit ot, but just when spudz said about them
Title: The Golden Age of Grotesque
Post by: (e) on May 29, 2003, 03:40:46 PM
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Marilyn is teh gay, gimme White Stripes anyday.

Tainted Love is pretty cool though.


Dude [size=10]SHUT THE **** UP[/size]. We dont ****ing care about your ****ing pansy ass opinion. If you dont like him- ****ING WHOOPTY DOO! Take a guess, that your negative opinion isnt wanted, and that everyone posting in here is probably a huge fan of Manson.

So why dont you go **** yourself?

BTW: I think this is one of his coolest looks:
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.el-mundo.es%2Fsociedad%2Fsitges%2Ffotos%2Fmanson.jpg&hash=1106c85aaaae1c11d886b408b25b3417e7bf68a8)

The White Stripes? Erm K, they are no where near as good as Manson... Not even same catagory.
Title: The Golden Age of Grotesque
Post by: ##RaCeR## on May 29, 2003, 05:45:43 PM
whatever
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Post by: Silent D on May 29, 2003, 11:07:33 PM
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Originally posted by Spudz
**** it- overall a good CD. I havent purchased it because Im low on cash, but I have \'acquired\' the songs.


Haha, Spudz is a pirate. :D

I used to stay hella far from Manson\'s stuff because I thought it was some kind of freaky cult music, but Spudz got me to listen to it. Ain\'t half bad.

And Racer, no one cares about yer damn White Stripes, so drop it.
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Post by: Heat on May 30, 2003, 01:22:56 AM
I liked it, and it sickened me, first Manson album I\'ve "bought" (lol)... I like how CD\'s come wih NFO files these days.
Title: The Golden Age of Grotesque
Post by: (e) on May 30, 2003, 03:32:36 PM
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whatever


What too busy with your White Stripes concert to listen post anything?

:rolleyes:

I dont hate you- its just that manson is one of the most talented artists of lately.
Title: The Golden Age of Grotesque
Post by: guar on May 31, 2003, 06:30:48 AM
Manson = talented artist :rolleyes:
Enough said
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Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 31, 2003, 07:34:34 AM
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Originally posted by guar
Manson = talented artist :rolleyes:
Enough said


Care to elaborate as to why you disagree?  (I\'m assuming it was sarcasm due to the roll eyes smiley)

I think he\'s definately in the top 5 musical artists in the industry today..
Title: The Golden Age of Grotesque
Post by: guar on May 31, 2003, 07:55:54 AM
I knew that would get a response. I guess it\'s just a matter of taste. I just don\'t care for his music. Hey Bob\'s_H, whom would you pick as the top 5 artists of today?
I\'m just not into gloom and doom.
Title: The Golden Age of Grotesque
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on May 31, 2003, 08:18:54 AM
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Originally posted by guar
I knew that would get a response. I guess it\'s just a matter of taste. I just don\'t care for his music. Hey Bob\'s_H, whom would you pick as the top 5 artists of today?
I\'m just not into gloom and doom.


As artists..

Just quickly off the top of my head (no particular order)..

 - Marilyn Manson
 - Opeth
 - Radiohead
 - Tool
 - Moby

Listed the whole bands, rater than just the individuals, as they all contibute. :)

Also, Although I don\'t particularly care to listen to Moby\'s music, he\'s an extremely talented man.

:)
Title: The Golden Age of Grotesque
Post by: guar on May 31, 2003, 09:05:53 AM
Damn, I didn\'t really think we would agree on musical tastes.
I was wrong, Tool,  Moby, 3doors down, Santana. Also in no
particular order.
Title: The Golden Age of Grotesque
Post by: (e) on May 31, 2003, 09:52:16 AM
3 doors down?


:laughing:

Something about that makes me laugh...
3 doors down

My top five is almost the same as bobs

1- Tool
2- Opeth
3- Manson
4- Metallica
5- Moby
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on June 01, 2003, 03:49:26 PM
I\'ve been listening to Manson since the days of Daisy and the gang (Portait of An American Family,etc) and at one time Manson was a driving force for the music industry and the whole band was pretty talented. However, after Anti-christ Superstar (The Band\'s pinnacle), the band has slowly fell apart. Twiggy has left, Daisy\'s been gone and Zim-Zum left. And Manson\'s lyrics have gone stale and there is no one really left to take what lyrics he does have and turn them into the rebel songs that the band was once known for.

My point? Manson, himself has talented, but tthe band lacks talent severely. He is no longer a driving force and is getting closer and closer to the point of where no one cares.
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Post by: (e) on June 01, 2003, 06:08:45 PM
Well the reason no one cares is because of that exactly.

I think Holywood is his second best album of all time. It captures alot of emotions on America\'s disgust.

Sure he isnt as good as the old days- but when no one starts to care, the band doesnt either. Im sticking a fan until the day they break apart- which I hope isnt soon.

One thing though:

On the cover of Mechanical Animals- are those breasts computerized, or did he actually have breast implants. I keep finding misleading information on it.

A lot of rumors about him and the removing of the ribs go around and make a bad name and shun him from alot of radio, television, and commercial music industries.
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on June 01, 2003, 11:00:59 PM
Let\'s not be ignorant. Manson did not have ribs taken out and those are not real implanted breasts. Use common sense. Not to mention Manson has always said he didn\'t and if you read his book - you would know that.
;)

Holywood his second best album? You\'re on crack. Most those songs was passable at best and the same applies to Mechinal Animals. I would say \'The Golden Age...\' is a step in the right direction, but it is alittle to late.

This review says it all.


http://www.dotmusic.com/reviews/Albums/May2003/reviews29424.asp
*hopes he posted the right review*
Title: The Golden Age of Grotesque
Post by: Bobs_Hardware on June 02, 2003, 08:14:35 AM
Blah, Holywood was disappointing.  Decent, but no where near their other albumns.  

I\'m still surprised you like so few songs on the albumn though, Licky.  Took me a few listens, but I actually prefer the second half of the albumn now.  

Para-noir is also my favorite on the albumn now.  :)  Love singing along to it (people think I\'m odd...)!
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on June 02, 2003, 12:10:25 PM
That is one of the best songs. It is an obvious song to Rose Mcgowan , Manson\'s long time lover.  

I\'d say it is one of the highlights of the cd that and \'Use your fists and not your mouth\'.

Though I admit, after more listens, it is growing slowyl on me and my opinion is slowly changing. . No matter, I agree a hundred percent that it is a step in the right direction, where as HolyWood was a step backwards.
Title: The Golden Age of Grotesque
Post by: (e) on June 02, 2003, 03:38:47 PM
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Use common sense.


Youve seen pictures of Manson? So things like that wouldnt seem out of the blue :laughing:


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Holywood his second best album? You\'re on crack.


Youve never heard of opinions have you?

Damn- you cant prove that one is better than the other, its all on how they like it. Its like saying green is better than blue. Its not- and cant be proven.

Its called a preference.
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Post by: Living-In-Clip on June 02, 2003, 09:15:13 PM
I can\'t think of any notable tracks of Holywood and nor can reviewers / critics.
I understand you have your opinion, but I\'m speaking in terms of sales and overall acceptance. HolyWood was disregarded in both manners, where as \'The Golden Age..\' seems to have won over old fans and critics alike. Not sure how sales are doin\' tho\'.