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Playstation/Gaming Discussions => Gaming Discussion => Topic started by: mm on May 28, 2003, 07:33:55 PM
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just wanted to beat pstwo to it
From: http://www.e3awards.com/nom.html
Best of Show
- Full Spectrum Warrior (Pandemic/THQ for Xbox)
- Gran Turismo 4 (Polyphony Digital/Sony Computer Entertainment for PlayStation 2)
- Half-Life 2 (Valve/Vivendi Universal Games for PC)
- Halo 2 (Bungie/Microsoft for Xbox)
- Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (UbiSoft for All Platforms)
Best Original Game
- Boktai (Konami for Game Boy Advance)
- Evil Genius (Elixir Studios/Vivendi Universal Games for PC)
- Fable (Big Blue Box/Microsoft for Xbox)
- Full Spectrum Warrior (Pandemic/THQ for Xbox)
- The Movies (Lionhead Studios/Activision for PC)
Best PC Game
- Call of Duty (Infinity Ward/Activision for PC)
- Deus Ex: Invisible War (Ion Storm/Eidos for PC/Xbox)
- Half-Life 2 (Valve/Vivendi Universal Games for PC)
- Halo PC (Gearbox/Bungie/Microsoft for PC)
- Sims 2 (Maxis/Electronic Arts for PC)
Best Console Game
- Fable (Big Blue Box/Microsoft for Xbox)
- Full Spectrum Warrior (Pandemic/THQ for Xbox)
- Gran Turismo 4 (Polyphony Digital/Sony Computer Entertainment for PlayStation 2)
- Halo 2 (Bungie/Microsoft for Xbox)
- Prince of Persia: Sands of Time (UbiSoft for All Platforms)
Best Peripheral / Hardware
- Driving Force Pro (Logitech for PlayStation 2)
- EyeToy (Sony Computer Entertainment for PlayStation 2)
- GeForce FX 5900 (Nvidia for PC)
- Helix Gaming Device (Tapwave)
- Radeon 9800 (ATI for PC)
Best Action Game
- Call of Duty (Infinity Ward/Activision for PC)
- Half-Life 2 (Valve/Vivendi Universal Games for PC)
- Halo 2 (Bungie/Microsoft for Xbox)
- Medal of Honor: Rising Sun (Electronic Arts for All Console Systems)
- Unreal Tournament 2004 (Epic Games/Infogrames for PC)
Best Action/Adventure Game
- Jak II (Naughty Dog/Sony Computer Entertainment for PlayStation 2)
- Ninja Gaiden (Tecmo for Xbox)
- Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (UbiSoft for All Platforms)
- Starcraft: Ghost (Blizzard/Vivendi Universal Games for All Console Systems)
- Viewtiful Joe (Capcom for GameCube)
Best Fighting Game
- Dead or Alive: Online (Tecmo for Xbox)
- Onimusha Blade Warriors (Capcom for PlayStation 2)
- Soul Calibur II (Namco for All Console Systems)
- Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution (Sega for PlayStation 2)
Best Role Playing Game
- Deus Ex: Invisible War (Ion Storm/Eidos for PC/Xbox)
- Fable (Big Blue Box/Microsoft for Xbox)
- Final Fantasy X-2 (Square-Enix for PlayStation 2)
- Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic (BioWare/LucasArts for PC/Xbox)
- Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines (Troika Games/Activision for PC)
Best Racing Game
- F-Zero GX (Amusement Vision/Nintendo for GameCube)
- Gran Turismo 4 (Polyphony Digital/Sony Computer Entertainment for PlayStation 2)
- Need for Speed Underground (Electronic Arts for All Platforms)
- Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (Nintendo for GameCube)
- Project Gotham Racing 2 (Bizarre Creations/Microsoft for Xbox)
Best Simulation Game
- Flight Simulator 2004: A Century of Flight (Microsoft for PC)
- Full Spectrum Warrior (Pandemic/THQ for Xbox)
- Secret Weapons over Normandy (Totally Games/LucasArts for PC/PS2/Xbox)
- Sims 2 (Maxis/Electronic Arts for PC)
- The Movies (Lionhead Studios/Activision for PC)
Best Sports Game
- Amped 2 (Microsoft for Xbox)
- Madden NFL 2004 (Electronic Arts for All Platforms)
- NFL 2K4 (Visual Concepts/Sega for PS2/Xbox)
- SSX 3 (Electronic Arts for All Console Platforms)
- Tony Hawkís Underground (Neversoft/Activision for All Console Platforms)
Best Strategy Game
- Evil Genius (Elixir Studios/Vivendi Universal Games for PC)
- Homeworld 2 (Relic/Vivendi Universal Games for PC)
- Pikmin 2 (Nintendo for GameCube)
- Rise of Nations (Big Huge Games/Microsoft for PC)
- Rome: Total War (Creative Assembly/Activision for PC)
Best Puzzle/Trivia/Parlor Game
- The EyeToy Games (Sony Computer Entertainment Europe for PlayStation 2)
- Karaoke Revolution (Harmonix/Konami for PlayStation 2)
- Mario Party 5 (Nintendo for GameCube)
- Nintendo Puzzle Collection (Nintendo for GameCube)
- Xbox Music Mixer (Microsoft for Xbox)
Best Online Multiplayer Game
- City of Heroes (Cryptic Studios/NCSoft for PC)
- EverQuest II (Sony Online for PC)
- Final Fantasy XI (Square Enix for PC/PlayStation 2)
- Mythica (Microsoft for PC)
- Star Wars Galaxies: An Empire Divided (Sony Online/LucasArts for PC)
- World of Warcraft (Blizzard/Vivendi Universal Games for PC)
what does this mean?
nothing. just a bunch of pompous mofo\'s sitting in a room eating cheeto-s, drinking code red mountain dew and jerking each other off
but then again, i wish i was there. i could be the pivot man
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Half-Life 2, Halo 2, and Fable all cleaned up.
Is that based on presenation or gameplay impressions at the show? I\'m not concerned with HL2 or Halo 2...but I am with Fable. I haven\'t heard all that many impressions...perhaps I need to go digging for some.
Dead or Alive: Online made best fighting game? lack of competition perhaps? Any impressions on new gameplay or something?
Nice to see Jak II and Ninja Gaiden made best action list.
I didn\'t know about this Vampire Masquerade RPG...I\'ll have to look in to it.
I\'m stoked to see F-Zero GX on best racing games, along with Mario Kart.
It also looks like we will be receiving Nintendo Puzzle Collection after all...nice:)
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XBOX got more awards than PS2 and GC.
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because of three titles (if xbox has more, i have little concern to count)
halo2, full spectrum warrior, and fable
sad to see xbox has 2/3 of its big items are gimmicks
either way, PC > all
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My thoughts in bold:).
Best of Show
- Full Spectrum Warrior (Pandemic/THQ for Xbox)
- Gran Turismo 4 (Polyphony Digital/Sony Computer Entertainment for PlayStation 2)
- Half-Life 2 (Valve/Vivendi Universal Games for PC)
- Halo 2 (Bungie/Microsoft for Xbox)
- Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (UbiSoft for All Platforms)
Best Original Game
- Boktai (Konami for Game Boy Advance)
- Evil Genius (Elixir Studios/Vivendi Universal Games for PC)
- Fable (Big Blue Box/Microsoft for Xbox)
- Full Spectrum Warrior (Pandemic/THQ for Xbox)
- The Movies (Lionhead Studios/Activision for PC)
Best PC Game
- Call of Duty (Infinity Ward/Activision for PC)
- Deus Ex: Invisible War (Ion Storm/Eidos for PC/Xbox)
- Half-Life 2 (Valve/Vivendi Universal Games for PC)
- Halo PC (Gearbox/Bungie/Microsoft for PC)
- Sims 2 (Maxis/Electronic Arts for PC)
Best Console Game
- Fable (Big Blue Box/Microsoft for Xbox)
- Full Spectrum Warrior (Pandemic/THQ for Xbox)
- Gran Turismo 4 (Polyphony Digital/Sony Computer Entertainment for PlayStation 2)
- Halo 2 (Bungie/Microsoft for Xbox)
- Prince of Persia: Sands of Time (UbiSoft for All Platforms)
Best Action Game
- Call of Duty (Infinity Ward/Activision for PC)
- Half-Life 2 (Valve/Vivendi Universal Games for PC)
- Halo 2 (Bungie/Microsoft for Xbox)
- Medal of Honor: Rising Sun (Electronic Arts for All Console Systems)
- Unreal Tournament 2004 (Epic Games/Infogrames for PC)
Best Action/Adventure Game
- Jak II (Naughty Dog/Sony Computer Entertainment for PlayStation 2)
- Ninja Gaiden (Tecmo for Xbox)
- Prince of Persia: The Sands of Time (UbiSoft for All Platforms)
- Starcraft: Ghost (Blizzard/Vivendi Universal Games for All Console Systems)
- Viewtiful Joe (Capcom for GameCube)
Best Fighting Game
- Dead or Alive: Online (Tecmo for Xbox)
- Onimusha Blade Warriors (Capcom for PlayStation 2)
- Soul Calibur II (Namco for All Console Systems)
- Virtua Fighter 4: Evolution (Sega for PlayStation 2)
Best Role Playing Game
- Deus Ex: Invisible War (Ion Storm/Eidos for PC/Xbox)
- Fable (Big Blue Box/Microsoft for Xbox)
- Final Fantasy X-2 (Square-Enix for PlayStation 2)
- Star Wars Knights of the Old Republic (BioWare/LucasArts for PC/Xbox)
- Vampire: The Masquerade - Bloodlines (Troika Games/Activision for PC)
Best Racing Game
- F-Zero GX (Amusement Vision/Nintendo for GameCube)
- Gran Turismo 4 (Polyphony Digital/Sony Computer Entertainment for PlayStation 2)
- Need for Speed Underground (Electronic Arts for All Platforms)
- Mario Kart: Double Dash!! (Nintendo for GameCube)
- Project Gotham Racing 2 (Bizarre Creations/Microsoft for Xbox)
Best Simulation Game
- Flight Simulator 2004: A Century of Flight (Microsoft for PC)
- Full Spectrum Warrior (Pandemic/THQ for Xbox)
- Secret Weapons over Normandy (Totally Games/LucasArts for PC/PS2/Xbox)
- Sims 2 (Maxis/Electronic Arts for PC)
- The Movies (Lionhead Studios/Activision for PC)
Best Sports Game
- Amped 2 (Microsoft for Xbox)
- Madden NFL 2004 (Electronic Arts for All Platforms)
- NFL 2K4 (Visual Concepts/Sega for PS2/Xbox)
- SSX 3 (Electronic Arts for All Console Platforms)
- Tony Hawkís Underground (Neversoft/Activision for All Console Platforms)
Best Strategy Game
- Evil Genius (Elixir Studios/Vivendi Universal Games for PC)
- Homeworld 2 (Relic/Vivendi Universal Games for PC)
- Pikmin 2 (Nintendo for GameCube)
- Rise of Nations (Big Huge Games/Microsoft for PC)
- Rome: Total War (Creative Assembly/Activision for PC)
Best Online Multiplayer Game
- City of Heroes (Cryptic Studios/NCSoft for PC)
- EverQuest II (Sony Online for PC)
- Final Fantasy XI (Square Enix for PC/PlayStation 2)
- Mythica (Microsoft for PC)
- Star Wars Galaxies: An Empire Divided (Sony Online/LucasArts for PC)
- World of Warcraft (Blizzard/Vivendi Universal Games for PC)
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define "gimmicks"...
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PDO, mech assault, gunvalkryie, etc..
big hype, mediochre selling, let down titles
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I think mediocre selling is due to pirated XBOX titles too.Because XBOX is very easy to get it chipped (not to mention the few extra applications etc) most people buy pirated software.Anyone I know that owns an XBOX buy pirated games.
BTW mm you have stated before that many good XBOX tites could have sold more if they were on PS2.So its not just a matter of let down titles.So why now do you believ its a matter of let down titles?
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they would have sold more *because* there are 3x (or more) the amount of PS2\'s as there are xbox\'s *not* because the game would be any better
a matter of let down titles because people LOVE hype. they LOVE anticipation. they ignore EVERY SINGLE instance of previous let down titles
i bet if they made a gunvalkryie 2, xbox fanatics would claim its the second coming of christ (untill they played it)
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Its not about let down titles if its due to the amount of PS2s compared to XBOXs.PS2 had even more let down titles.And hype increases sales.
a matter of let down titles because people LOVE hype. they LOVE anticipation. they ignore EVERY SINGLE instance of previous let down titles
Thats exactly why sales are more than what the title deserves.This dont have to do with mediocre selling.
And I dont know whats wrong with games like PDO.That\'s a great game.
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then why did it sell piss poorly [© 2002 ooseven]?
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When did a Panzer Dragoon game ever sell well?
It\'s a rail shooter...hardly mass appeal.
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What are gimmicky about 2/3rds of XBox games?
And where did PDO, Mech Assault, and GV (especially GV) get any hype besides on petty messageboards?
and Mech Assault sold well over 300k, if I am not mistaken. How is that piss poor for a mech game in the US?
Eric Jacob
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300k!!!!!! wow, im impressed :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by ThisTopicSucks
What are gimmicky about 2/3rds of XBox games?
And where did PDO, Mech Assault, and GV (especially GV) get any hype besides on petty messageboards?
EB....
Boy did they hype them titles like there was no tommorow, in fact they would even make it a point to ask you at least twice in some cases.
once when you just got in the door , and then again for a second time if you where purchasing a game.
its was a bit like this but with plugging x box games insted of small talk.
(https://psx5central.com/community/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.penny-arcade.com%2Fimages%2F2003%2F20030205l.gif&hash=d15a8c196568d1acc77c5ec3be22ca71a8fe7680)
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well, 300k was admittedly 5 months ago, but I have no recent data, since NPD has been extremely tight about leaked data nowadays. Probably climbed to 500k. I don\'t see how that is bad for a mech game in America. Highest selling one I can think of on a console.
Eric Jacob
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i\'ll start celebrating tomorrow
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hey, you said piss poor, not me. Just correcting you. Feel free to do so to me when I am in the wrong.
Eric Jacob
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300k = piss poor
how many copies of britney\'s dance beat (or whatever it was called) sold?
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Is Mech Assault the game from Capcom with the huge expensive stick?
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ehhe, you made "huge expensive" sound like a bad thing
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Concidering the price of that game then I think it sold pretty well.
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no,that is Steel Batallion, which sold much better than what Cpacom was anticipating, so much so that they are making an online sequel for it.
BDB sold less than 100k, you know what happens when you assume, right?
I don\'t see how 300k is piss poor, or 500k, for that matter. Seems like piss poor is scalable to fit any argument.
Eric Jacob
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Originally posted by ThisTopicSucks
no,that is Steel Batallion, which sold much better than what Cpacom was anticipating, so much so that they are making an online sequel for it.
Replace my previous post with this one then.
See mm? :D