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Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: Jumpman on June 11, 2003, 10:26:32 AM
My choice=Dark Age Of Camelot

I\'ve had it for about a month now and I\'ve already put around 168 hours into it, that\'s a full week of playing it. It\'s the sole reason why I\'m not constantly creating idiot topics and why I\'m not posting nearly as much as I used to. Whenever I\'m on my computer, I\'m playing this game.

Basically, its a MMORPG like Everquest, but it has one difference that completely makes in different than all the Everquest clones out there: Realm Vs Realm, the entire point of the game. In other words, people vs people. This game is much more deep than Everquest and far better in terms of all around quality. You level up by fighting monsters in your realm but when your high enough you can be apart of keep and relics raids which are the greatest experience other when you try to take over other realms\' stuff. Takes around 12-20 to take a keep and atleast 80 to take a relic down.

The different kind of characters you can chose are all cool in their own way. There are stealthers, who anyone besides other stealthers have no chance of seeing before they input massive damage on you. They\'re hard as hell to level(I\'m a Nightshade, arguably the best RVR char in the game), but they ARE the best at killing other people.

There are tanks. They basically fight in the middle of the huge battles and they\'re very strong and hard to kill. Good at killing monsters and good at killing people.

There are healers. No explanation needed they just heal they can\'t really fight unless you train them in fighting. They level very fast because everyone wants them in their groups.

There\'s a couple of more classes but those are just a couple of the main ones. Everyone should go buy this game now. Its only like 30 bucks now too. Great game. If you\'re interested join the server called "Bedevere" and join the realm "Hibernia". Most. Addictive. Game. Ever.

Anyways...your choice?
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: Nolaws on June 11, 2003, 11:17:52 AM
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This game is much more deep than Everquest


lol.

the only problem with DAoC is that well, there is RvR, and there is is.. flat out nothing else interesting.

it\'s hard to judge the depth of a game that\'s been around close to 5 years now, with 4 expansion + 1 extension. The world itself and is story (wich you can buy a 500something pages encyclopedia) make DAoC look like very small wolrd. the raid features, the bazaar system, the faction system, the new spell system (implemented today), the planar zones, the whole new "newbies" help (tutorial, loads of starting quest)  etc..etc..it\'s going to take a long time before any game come as "deep" as Everquest is..
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: Jumpman on June 11, 2003, 12:06:35 PM
RvR is EVERYTHING in DAoC. Everything else uninterestting...wtf is a quarter as interesting in Everquest? Nothing. No matter how many pages of encyclopedia or how many expensions it gets, it will never be as intense or addicting as Dark Age. At its core, Everquest is still a form a group and kill a monster game. Dark Age is so much more than that.

And DAoC is not a small little world. Maybe you forget it has 3 realms, each of them would take atleast an hour to run from one side to the other, probably a lot more.

From IGNPC

"Take out the core, boring combat from EverQuest and then expand on the game in every good way that you can imagine and this is what you get. The game is one of the most well-rounded MMORPGs yet."
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: mm on June 11, 2003, 02:02:26 PM
DAoC is a piece of shit

that about sums it up

it has a 10th of the subscribers EQ has

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Everquest is still a form a group and kill a monster game.


that couldnt possibly be farthur from the truth
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: Lord Nicon on June 11, 2003, 02:39:30 PM
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Everquest is still a form a group and kill a monster game.

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:
Strangely funny but entirely not true.
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: Living-In-Clip on June 11, 2003, 03:07:03 PM
Where\'s Sonyfan when you need him? Someone needs to mention PSO.
:)
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: Jumpman on June 11, 2003, 07:41:19 PM
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it has a 10th of the subscribers EQ has

THeReFoRe It SuCkS!!!1111

Um no mm.

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that couldnt possibly be farthur from the truth

Then let\'s hear this truth already. I wish someone would tell it to me so I can get a chance of easily picking it apart.
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: mm on June 12, 2003, 02:13:32 AM
hey, if you like a vastly inferior MMORPG, thats fine by me
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: Nolaws on June 12, 2003, 03:45:00 AM
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RvR is EVERYTHING in DAoC


that\'s exactly the problem. the EVERYTHING (=only thing) DAoC as to offer, is RvR.

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wtf is a quarter as interesting in Everquest?


about everything. guild progression throught the content. guild race for the content. dungeons and new areas hunt for exp. Quest (10th ring war, prayer shawl, epic quest for each class, etc..) there is soooo much to do.

and lastely, RvR suck because the balance (N* of player per realm) will always give advantage to one realm vs another.
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: Jumpman on June 12, 2003, 06:06:26 AM
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Originally posted by mm
hey, if you like a vastly inferior MMORPG, thats fine by me

I don\'t like Everquest, so no I don\'t like a vastly inferior MMORPG.

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that\'s exactly the problem. the EVERYTHING (=only thing) DAoC as to offer, is RvR

Everything does not=only thing to offer. The thing is, all those other stuff you mentioned for Everquest like guild progression, "epic" quests, leveling for xp, DAOC has all of that. There\'s soooooo much to do but why bother when there\'s RVR which is infinitely better. Only when your 50(max level, which will take you over 2 months to get probably if you dont know people), you xp for realm skills, and you get these, by killing other players, which is 100X more fun than killing any monster in Everquest. It\'s like leveling past 50. All 50\'s are not even.

And um...realms don\'t have advantages over other realms unless they have relics.
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: mm on June 13, 2003, 05:10:52 AM
if you wanna kill other players, load quake 3 or UT

how many zones does DoAC have again?  how many class combinations?  ......yeah

honestly, play either longer than a month (which you obviously havent) and you\'ll see
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: Samwise on June 13, 2003, 06:40:49 AM
I\'m with Jumpy on this one. Why that piece of crap that is Everquest ever got popular is beyond me. Must be all those lemmings out there.
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: mm on June 13, 2003, 06:49:34 AM
there are 400,000+ (and growing) reasons why it is so popular
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: Samwise on June 13, 2003, 06:54:01 AM
Lemmings, as I said. :)
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: Kurt Angle on June 13, 2003, 09:09:29 AM
I agree with Sammy, Lemmings is a great game!:D
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: Jumpman on June 13, 2003, 09:20:43 AM
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if you wanna kill other players, load quake 3 or UT

It\'s not like Q3 where you just go somewhere and start fighting other players. People just don\'t do that. There are "we meet here and we fight each other", all of the fighting between players occurs mainly in battles for keeps/relics or in Darkness Falls. Darkness Falls is the main dungeon in the game, and all 3 realms can access it if one realm has more keeps than the other. And its worth going on long raids for.  

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how many zones does DoAC have again? how many class combinations? ......yeah

Does Everquest have RVR?.....yeah.

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honestly, play either longer than a month (which you obviously havent) and you\'ll see

Which game are you talking about?

Just read the reviews for Everquest and its expansions and read the reviews for DAOC.
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: mm on June 13, 2003, 10:22:24 AM
reviews for DAoC?!  i have, hence i don\'t play the crap (and neither does 90% of the MMORPG market).  i would give AC and UO more respect

you do realize that EQ has religions and factions that fight each other, right?
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: Jumpman on June 13, 2003, 10:27:02 AM
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reviews for DAoC?! i have, hence i don\'t play the crap (and neither does 90% of the MMORPG market). i would give AC and UO more respect

Really? I\'ve yet to come across a site where Daoc received a lower than Everquest or any of its expansions.
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: mm on June 13, 2003, 10:37:38 AM
population dictates the better of the 2

what is the subscription of DAoC?
how many DAoC players leave for EQ?

the numbers are not suprising
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: Jumpman on June 13, 2003, 11:31:29 AM
Popularity does not equal=quality. We\'ve been over this!

If people do leave DAOC, its because they haven\'t played long enough. Most people leave DAOC before lvl 15. For the first 15 levels, yeah, its not so great feels like Everquest for those levels but once your 15 you can go on the battlegrounds for 15-20.(Also BG\'s for 20-25, 25-30, 30-35...then its RVR). It takes time to get into but if you have patience then its more than worth the end result.
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: mm on June 13, 2003, 11:39:26 AM
well, you posed the entire thread as a question so i will just say..no.  it isnt the best, EQ is.

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Most people leave DAOC before lvl 15. For the first 15 levels, yeah, its not so great feels like Everquest


that just sounds so funny, and i wouldnt say its because it feels like EQ.  it\'s because it\'s boring
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: Jumpman on June 13, 2003, 04:33:36 PM
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well, you posed the entire thread as a question so i will just say..no. it isnt the best, EQ is.

Well, me and every respectable gaming site disagree with that statement, mm.

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that just sounds so funny, and i wouldnt say its because it feels like EQ. it\'s because it\'s boring

Because EQ is boring. :/
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: mm on June 14, 2003, 11:02:00 AM
400,000+ couldnt agree with you

my time is precious, so please fill me in on the population count of DAoC and the decline rate
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: Jumpman on June 14, 2003, 04:20:39 PM
I\'ve already explained to you why DAOC is better and why more people play Everquest(more accessible). I\'m not going to repeat myself anymore.
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: mm on June 15, 2003, 05:09:00 AM
more accessible?

riiiiight  :)
Title: Best MMORPG ever?
Post by: cloud345 on June 15, 2003, 04:34:04 PM
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Most people leave DAOC before lvl 15. For the first 15 levels, yeah, its not so great feels like Everquest


 Isnt it bad that the game can;t keep someone occupied for 15 levels? If it was the best MMORPG than it would be able to keep people playing through those 15 levels.