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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: lionken07 on June 16, 2003, 01:16:28 PM

Title: gun kill people? people kill people!
Post by: lionken07 on June 16, 2003, 01:16:28 PM
A burglar who says he cannot enjoy sex after he was shot and injured by Tony Martin has won the right to sue the jailed farmer for damages.


Brendon Fearon, 33, successfully asked a judge at Nottingham County Court to overturn an earlier decision that threw out his claim.

Fearon will sue Martin for a reported ?5,000 following his wounding during a break-in at the farmer\'s home in Emneth Hungate, Norfolk, in August 1999.

During the burglary Martin shot dead Fearon\'s accomplice, 16-year-old Fred Barras, of Newark, Nottinghamshire.

Fearon claims that his injuries, which included a leg wound, have affected his ability to enjoy sex and martial arts and that he has suffered post-traumatic stress.

He claims he cannot even watch shoot-outs on television or in movies because of the memories of the incident.

Fearon was jailed for his part in the raid on Martin\'s home and has more than 30 criminal convictions.

He has been granted legal aid to mount his claim for damages.

Malcolm Starr, a friend and campaigner for Martin, said: "This is disgraceful and means yet more public money will be wasted on this claim.

Tony expected this to happen, because of flaws in the law that must now be addressed."

Mr Starr added: "Public opinion must be at boiling point. People will be gobsmacked that the law can be so wrong."

Earlier this year, Fearon, of Newark, was told that he had failed to provide sufficient evidence to support his claims that he has been unable to work because of his injuries.

But the judge who made today\'s ruling said the mistakes of Fearon\'s solicitors should not prevent him getting his case for compensation heard in a court of law.

The judge also pointed out that the case has a great deal of public interest concerning the rights of both householders and trespassers.

Henry Bellingham, Tory MP for Martin\'s constituency in Norfolk, said: "I feel very strongly that no criminal should have any right after he has broken into a property - all legal rights should be left outside the property that was burgled."

http://www.sky.com/skynews/article/...346105,00.html/


man where did our right of protecting our property go?
I think our society as a whole encourage people to become Burglars...


:mad: :nut:
Title: gun kill people? people kill people!
Post by: kopking on June 16, 2003, 03:05:19 PM
my god, the laws need to be changed soon, a agree with you on that mate
Title: gun kill people? people kill people!
Post by: FatalXception on June 16, 2003, 03:45:58 PM
I agree in principal that while commiting a crime like that you should loose many rights, and that you are assuming the risk of being injured or killed by homeowner/police.  That doesn\'t mean I condone guns, or vigilantee justice, but during the actual commision of a crime, such possibilities are understood ahead of time... just like I\'m responsible for what happens if I drink heavily, a criminal is responsible for what happens when he commits crimes.

As long as the homeowner doesn\'t break the law (ie, no traps, etc.), and is simply defending himself then I don\'t think the criminals should have any recourse.
Title: gun kill people? people kill people!
Post by: Bozco on June 16, 2003, 04:49:00 PM
Cases before have been won by the intruder.  If the intruder doesn\'t pose a possible threat by a weapon then if injured can sue for damage done.  ****ed up world we live in.
Title: gun kill people? people kill people!
Post by: Tyrant on June 16, 2003, 10:18:20 PM
seems its better to be the accused than the victim nowadays, the justice system in the states should be revamped and not only the states many other countries allow these type of cases.
Title: gun kill people? people kill people!
Post by: Kurt Angle on June 17, 2003, 12:19:55 AM
This is the state of the british justice system. Absolutely disgusting.
Title: Re: gun kill people? people kill people!
Post by: ooseven on June 17, 2003, 12:53:16 AM
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Originally posted by lionken07


Fearon will sue Martin for a reported ?5,000 following his wounding during a break-in at the farmer\'s home in Emneth Hungate, Norfolk, in August 1999.



It\'s £ 50,000 and even if Fearon case is a failure he won\'t pay a penny a penny as he is being funded by the state (Ultimately us the tax payer)

and all thanks to our goverment and Tony Blair that bloody liar of WMD.

Tony Blair out out out !

God dman it yet anoter case of the normal guy getting shafted !


! demand A BLODDY revolution and Tony’s head on a stick over this ! :mad:
Title: gun kill people? people kill people!
Post by: CHIZZY on June 17, 2003, 05:34:03 AM
Not that I\'m an expert on british law or anything, but weren\'t these laws in place long before Blair was born?
Title: gun kill people? people kill people!
Post by: GmanJoe on June 17, 2003, 05:46:54 AM
I blame Blair for our snack room running out of Snickers bar.

I also blame Bush for the coffee being too sweet.

;)
Title: gun kill people? people kill people!
Post by: THX on June 17, 2003, 08:53:36 AM
Chizzy don\'t you understand that whenever something goes wrong we HAVE to blame the current country leader in office?  It\'s like common sense.... or something..
Title: gun kill people? people kill people!
Post by: fastson on June 17, 2003, 09:13:26 AM
Guns dont kill people, death kills people..
Title: gun kill people? people kill people!
Post by: kopking on June 17, 2003, 12:44:05 PM
guns dont kill people, the bullets that are fired, and the injuries becouse of the bullets kill people