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Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: ##RaCeR## on July 08, 2003, 04:12:32 AM
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Ferrari has issued official sketches of the 2+2 GT that will replace the 456 in 2004

By MARTON PETTENDY 8 July 2003

 
IT\'S not often Ferrari releases an all-new model, but that\'s exactly what the prancing horse brand is expected to do at next January\'s Detroit motor show, where it will reveal the replacement for its oldest model, the 456.

As a taste-test, Ferrari has released the first official sketches of the 456 successor, revealing a sleek new two-door body with a radical new cabin big enough to accommodate four passengers in comfort.

Styled, like the decade-old original, by famed Italian design house Pininfarina, Ferrari\'s new 2+2 coupe will take over from where the 456 leaves off - as the only four-seater in the Ferrari range.

Released in Europe in 1992 and here in 1994, the 456 GT was renamed the 456M GT manual and 456M GTA auto in 1998. It is priced above the 360 Modena coupe/Spider convertible and below the 575M Maranello at $537,500 and $563,000 respectively.

Known internally as F137 but likely to be dubbed the 460 or simply the Bologna, the 456 successor will continue the front-engined 2+2 grand tourer concept.

A heavily disguised development mule has already been spotted in testing around Maranello, and it\'s known Ferrari has paid particular attention to rectifying one of the 456\'s weaker points: handling.

Sketches show a longer bonnet thanks to an A-pillar that\'s been moved rearwards in an effort to achieve better weight distribution by pushing the engine further back.

Significantly, the new car will be based on a 360 Modena-like aluminium platform, rather than the 456\'s steel underpinnings. However, it is not known whether the 460 will employ four-wheel drive.

Sources suggest the 460\'s wheelbase will be at least 150mm longer than the 456, indicating interior space - especially for rear-seat occupants - will also be improved.

Wheels will be 18-inch alloy as standard instead of the 17-inch items of the 456, while headlights will take on the integrated look of the 360 and 575M.

Ferrari\'s use of the Detroit motor show to launch the 460 is seen as an acknowledgement of the significance of the US market to Ferrari, while also allowing sister company Maserati airtime at Frankfurt this year to expose its new four-door Quattroporte.

Desperate to better the performance of Bentley\'s new Continental GT, which lays claim to being the world\'s fastest four-seater, Ferrari will equip the 460 with its flagship Enzo\'s 6.0-litre V12 that produces 410kW and 650Nm of torque.

Of course, Ferrari\'s F1-style, six-speed sequential "Cambiocorsa" gearbox will be optional but, either way, 0-100km/h acceleration is tipped to drop from the current 456\'s 5.1 seconds to around 4.5 seconds, with top speed likely to top 320km/h.

In other words, Ferrari\'s GT will finally be a supercar.
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: Coredweller on July 08, 2003, 08:13:27 AM
Pretty ugly based on that sketch, but it is a tiny sketch.

I also hate 2+2s.  If you need a back seat, get a sedan ya wimp!

:thumb:
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: Kurt Angle on July 08, 2003, 08:41:06 AM
I never liked the look of the 456 so that is certainly and improvement IMO.
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: Tyrant on July 08, 2003, 09:47:33 AM
personally, i think that that design is a step in the wrong direction for ferrari.
but seeing that i cant even afford the logo on the hood, i really wouldnt care less.
btw best ferrari evar made is the 360 spider
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Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: THX on July 08, 2003, 11:37:53 AM
Lose the convertible and I\'d be interested. :hold:

PS- what else besides food does Italy make?
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: videoholic on July 08, 2003, 11:51:54 AM
I like em all.  :thumb:
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: Samwise on July 08, 2003, 12:38:50 PM
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Originally posted by THX
PS- what else besides food does Italy make?
Cars, clothes, shoes?
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: Coredweller on July 08, 2003, 12:50:37 PM
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Originally posted by Tyrant
btw best ferrari evar made is the 360 spider
Huh?  I\'m gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there.  :sleepy:

There are a whole lot of Ferraris that were/are more attractive than the 360.  Might as well start at the top... I guess you\'ve never heard of the Enzo?  

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Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: Kurt Angle on July 08, 2003, 12:51:02 PM
Motorbikes..........
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: ##RaCeR## on July 08, 2003, 03:00:27 PM
Cored, the ENZO is teh gayest looking car ever. It is way to boxy looking to be a Ferrari. I am awaiting the F60 (please someone tell me that Ferarri haven\'t decided to make the ENZO the new F60, as I heard some rumours that this was true).

I love the 360 Modena, only looks good in red, yellow or black though.
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: luckee on July 08, 2003, 04:10:59 PM
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##


I love the 360 Modena, only looks good in red, yellow or black though.


You should really try to check out an ice blue one in either bright sunlight or city lights... ")
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: ##RaCeR## on July 08, 2003, 04:13:27 PM
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Originally posted by luckee
You should really try to check out an ice blue one in either bright sunlight or city lights... ")


Got any pics of it in that colour? I also prefer the hard top version as apposed to the convertible.
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: Coredweller on July 08, 2003, 04:36:05 PM
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Cored, the ENZO is teh gayest looking car ever. It is way to boxy looking to be a Ferrari. I am awaiting the F60 (please someone tell me that Ferarri haven\'t decided to make the ENZO the new F60, as I heard some rumours that this was true).

I love the 360 Modena, only looks good in red, yellow or black though.
I used to think the same thing about it before I started seeing more of the Enzo in different photographic settings.  I think what really changed my mind was an analysis I read of the testing that went into that car.  EVERY shape you see on the body of the car is there to perform a function.  Unlike other cars that are designed to look fast, the Enzo IS fast.  It\'s really amazing how they\'ve managed to generate so much downforce without the typical rear wing.  It\'s difficult to see how someone could call such a brilliant design ghey.
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: ##RaCeR## on July 08, 2003, 04:52:05 PM
Cord. don\'t get me wrong, I know that its a killer power house for performance, but I just think its ugly. The rear is fine, so are the side, its just that fugly front spoiler. If Lamborghini can make an uber sweet looking car thats just as fast (Murc) then I can\'t see why Ferrari can\'t.

It still unfortunately doesn\'t whip a McLaren F1 (which I was really hoping it might do) but its still an amazing car performance wise.
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: videoholic on July 08, 2003, 05:35:01 PM
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
I am awaiting the F60 (please someone tell me that Ferarri haven\'t decided to make the ENZO the new F60, as I heard some rumours that this was true).



What do you mean by "awaiting" .

You waiting to look at it?:jack:
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: ##RaCeR## on July 08, 2003, 07:10:07 PM
^^

The F60 prototype was only a concept wasn\'t it? I thought they still haven\'t made an actual \'F60\'. I heard the Enzo was the F60, but didn\'t know if that was true.
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: Lord Nicon on July 08, 2003, 07:22:41 PM
I love ferraris. I have had a love of them ever since i was just a wee lad.:D Concept drawing is far from ferrari. Its funny cause they named it the bologna:laughing:. My favorite "new" ferrari was the marenello and then the modena.
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acceleration is tipped to drop from the current 456\'s 5.1 seconds to around 4.5 seconds
 
Uhg. Back in the day in 1964 the ferrari 250 GTO 64 could do it in 5 seconds with only a sohc v12 at 290hp , come on. Oh well. As long as its not as rough as the Dino.

On another note, pinifarina is great. Didnt they do the design on the pantera?
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: luckee on July 08, 2003, 07:35:33 PM
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
Got any pics of it in that colour? I also prefer the hard top version as apposed to the convertible.


It\'s in Tyrants post...but it is a drop top.
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: jinxx on July 08, 2003, 07:53:02 PM
http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/media_popup.asp?media=PRODUCTION_PHOTO&id=7&bhcp=1

http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/media_popup.asp?media=PRODUCTION_PHOTO&id=9&bhcp=1

http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/media_popup.asp?media=PRODUCTION_PHOTO&id=10&bhcp=1

http://www.fordvehicles.com/fordgt/media_popup.asp?media=PRODUCTION_PHOTO&id=8&bhcp=1


Tis a sweet car indeed.
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: Lord Nicon on July 08, 2003, 07:58:54 PM
Damn straight Jinxx but still, ferrari takes the cake.
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: jinxx on July 08, 2003, 08:03:30 PM
::sigh:: Yes I must admit, the Enzo is fancier and a smidge bt faster. But I was born and raised on American Muscle. Go GT.
Title: New Ferrari - I want one.
Post by: Tyrant on July 08, 2003, 08:41:22 PM
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Originally posted by THX
Lose the convertible and I\'d be interested. :hold:

PS- what else besides food does Italy make?

the hard top version of the 360 is the Modena
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Originally posted by  Coredweller

Huh? I\'m gonna have to go ahead and disagree with you there.  

There are a whole lot of Ferraris that were/are more attractive than the 360. Might as well start at the top... I guess you\'ve never heard of the Enzo?

to me the Enzo just looks weird from the front, i think they were trying to make it look like an F1 race car but they just couldnt get it right.