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Title: The Passion
Post by: Samwise on July 13, 2003, 01:41:21 AM: Anyone of you movie illiterates ever heard of Mel Gibson\'s "The Passion"? It\'s about Jesus Christ... I\'m not a religious man, but I\'d watch anything Mel Gibson directs. And this does look awesome indeed.

Here\'s the trailer (http://www.aintitcool.com/ThePassion.mov).
Title: The Passion
Post by: SER on July 13, 2003, 02:40:31 AM: I\'m on 56k and lazy to download the trailer..

But a movie about Jesus Christ... Wonder who\'s gonna go see that on these forums. All 5 of us probably. lol
Title: The Passion
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on July 13, 2003, 02:45:16 AM: I do not believe in Naboo, queen Amidala or other creatures and like Star Wars. Just like another fiction movie...
Title: The Passion
Post by: Samwise on July 13, 2003, 02:48:31 AM: Just because one does not believe the story/plot/whatever, doesn\'t mean one can\'t see the movie.

I mean, you probably watched Star Wars anyway, right? :)

Anyway, I\'d watch crap on a stick if it was directed by Mel Gibson. :p

Besides, it never hurts to broaden your horisont a little (or preferably a lot).
Title: The Passion
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on July 13, 2003, 02:56:02 AM: Yes, just wanted to mean that point.
Title: The Passion
Post by: fastson on July 13, 2003, 03:22:11 AM: *downloading*

Mel took a plunge on my "fav actors list" after that POC "We Were Soldiers"..

EDIT: That looked pretty good :)
Romans are kewl (even though they liked little boys ;) ), but why did Jesus have all that red paint over him? :(
Oh and I thought they nailed him to the cross via his wrists, not hands? :confused:
Title: The Passion
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on July 13, 2003, 05:02:21 AM: That\'s an important failure, he was suposed to be nailed in the wrists... hands could not bear the weight of the body.
Title: The Passion
Post by: Samwise on July 13, 2003, 05:04:33 AM: Well, there are different schools of thought regarding that. Some scientist found that it was possible to be nailed through the palm on some types of wood (? - can\'t really remember the reason :p).

Besides, he was held/bound to the cross by the wrists in the trailer.
Title: The Passion
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on July 13, 2003, 05:08:51 AM: It\'s not the type of wood what avoids one person to be nailed via his hands, but the phisical constitution of human hands, full of small bones that would crack in few seconds.
Title: The Passion
Post by: Samwise on July 13, 2003, 05:14:08 AM: I know, but still... some say it IS actually possible under some circumstances.

Still doesn\'t change the fact that he was held to the cross by the wrists in the trailer. :)
Title: The Passion
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on July 13, 2003, 05:16:09 AM: The matter is that I can\'t see the trailer because it\'s *.mov, and my computer doesn\'t like quicktime... it always freezes, dunno why. There is any other format to download? mpg perhaps?

BTW, this movie has been already shown, or isn\'t it finished yet?
Title: The Passion
Post by: Samwise on July 13, 2003, 05:20:32 AM: The movie hasn\'t found distribution yet. I don\'t think it\'s completed yet, but not sure.
Title: The Passion
Post by: ##RaCeR## on July 13, 2003, 05:46:15 AM: About the hands thing... I was in a church service accouple of years ago and this was actually being discussed. There are some people with the belief that he was nailed through the hands, and that he actually had to support himself up. It says in the Bible about how Jesus had to strain so hard to stay up-right on the cross, in other words, he wasn\'t just hanging there, he was literally trying to support his own weight.

IMO, Jesus is THE central key figure in Christianity and the belief in an almighty God. Other then the Bible, there are countless other primary sources that tell of the same happenings as in the Bible, including the rolling away of the tomb, and his accent into heaven.

Mel Gibson is a legend. If its anything like Braveheart then its going to be good. The ironic thing is that Gibson is Catholic...
Title: The Passion
Post by: CHIZZY on July 13, 2003, 07:19:45 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Adan
I do not believe in Naboo, queen Amidala or other creatures and like Star Wars. Just like another fiction movie...

I could not have said it better, Miguel!
Title: The Passion
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on July 13, 2003, 07:36:48 AM: Quote
Originally posted by CHIZZY
I could not have said it better, Miguel!

You\'re the only one that call me by my name :D

If this film is half the good than Braveheart, i\'ll definitely go to the cinema to see a Jesus movie.
Title: The Passion
Post by: Deadly Hamster on July 13, 2003, 08:14:08 AM: Hey, just because I don\'t believe in the christian faith doesn\'t mean im not interested in it.
Title: The Passion
Post by: mjps21983 on July 13, 2003, 08:32:53 AM: A movie is about entertainment, if I wanted to learn something I\'d go to the library and rent a National Geographic video.
Title: The Passion
Post by: Samwise on July 13, 2003, 08:40:29 AM: Quote
Originally posted by mjps21983
A movie is about entertainment, if I wanted to learn something I\'d go to the library and rent a National Geographic video.

So a movie about something "authentic" can\'t be entertainment, a movie?
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Post by: mjps21983 on July 13, 2003, 08:44:34 AM: I didn\'t say that, maybe I came across wrong, a movie doesn\'t have to be 100% factual and true to entertain me, I enjoy watching National Geographic type documentaries all the time as long as I have the time and its interesting
Title: The Passion
Post by: Kimahri on July 13, 2003, 10:26:34 AM: They cant find anyone to distribute it because they made the movie so accurate that most of it is not even in english..... AND they were opposed to using subtitles!
Title: The Passion
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on July 13, 2003, 11:05:10 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Kimahri
They cant find anyone to distribute it because they made the movie so accurate that most of it is not even in english..... AND they were opposed to using subtitles!

Upss... That\'s wrong Mr Gibson.. very bad... he would expect that 90% of cityzens speak hebrew :)
Title: The Passion
Post by: Darth Joyda on July 13, 2003, 04:14:43 PM: Now you are mixing up the belief of the spirituality behind Jesus Christ, and the actual, historically-proven existence of Jesus Christ. And yes, he was nailed into a cross - another non-fictional fact which doesn\'t change no matter where you stand.

So, yes, large part of the film might be fictional - but the whole concept isn\'t. Jesus DID exist. But DID he exist as the son of God? My own, personal belief says that he WASN\'T the son of God, but I will not go and claim that he DID not exist AT ALL.

Oh, and the trailer does look awesome... Finally a movie I can go to see with my grandfather ( who is a very religious person ) :)
Title: The Passion
Post by: theomen on July 13, 2003, 07:16:47 PM: On a documentry I saw they said that the feet being nailed would give enough support to allow the hands to hold without tearing.
Title: The Passion
Post by: Black Samurai on July 13, 2003, 08:35:35 PM: ^^^^Heard the same thing. If someone was nailed by the hands alone then it would not work but the hands AND the feet is enough to support someone\'s body weight.
Title: The Passion
Post by: Black Samurai on July 13, 2003, 08:53:31 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Kimahri
They cant find anyone to distribute it because they made the movie so accurate that most of it is not even in english..... AND they were opposed to using subtitles!
If its so accurate why use a white guy?

I\'m just saying...is all....
Title: The Passion
Post by: Bozco on July 13, 2003, 10:26:32 PM: Quote
Originally posted by Gohan
If its so accurate why use a white guy?

I\'m just saying...is all....

You\'re just saying........right.........
Title: The Passion
Post by: Samwise on July 13, 2003, 11:02:30 PM: True that Gohan, if it should be accurate, Jesus would most likely have to be portrayed as a rather short dark-skinned man with short, curly hair. He\'d prolly look much like the \'average\' Middle Eastern man.
Title: The Passion
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on July 14, 2003, 02:11:30 AM: That\'s very true. More failures for a movie that hasn\'t even been released :D
Title: The Passion
Post by: Samwise on July 14, 2003, 02:15:23 AM: Quote
Originally posted by Adan
That\'s very true. More failures for a movie that hasn\'t even been released :D

Well, Mel Gibson didn\'t necessarily go for minute detail in every single aspect in order to be as accurate as possible. Perhaps he wanted to show Jesus in the way that the most people are used to... we don\'t know that.
Title: The Passion
Post by: Seed_Of_Evil on July 14, 2003, 02:17:23 AM: Sammy, if he wanted to be so accurate that he didn\'t insert the subtitles.. the first thing he had had to do is a cast to chose a good Jesus, IMO.
Title: The Passion
Post by: Samwise on July 14, 2003, 02:19:36 AM: Well, Jim Caviezel seems like a perfect Jesus to me. At least the kind of Jesus most people are familiar with. :)