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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Kurt Angle on July 22, 2003, 12:00:06 PM
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The US military is investigating reports that Saddam Hussein\'s two sons, Uday and Qusay, may have been among those killed or captured during an American raid in the northern Iraqi town of Mosul.
If this is true I wonder how close they are to finding Sadam?
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3087121.stm
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According to the BBC, they ARE dead. Aparently, DNA tests were run on those killed, and they match up.
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You are right!!!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle_east/3088393.stm
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Now all is left, is for them to get the big feller himself. I can\'t see them doing it somehow. I can see him killing himself, like Hitler did, then those left behind try to say he was killed in battle, thus becoming a martyr.
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They must be close. I think it would be best if he\'s caught alive.
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Originally posted by Ace
I think it would be best if he\'s caught alive.
I\'m personally hoping that is what happens, I want to see him paraded around in humiliating fashion, but I can\'t see it happening.
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Originally posted by Cerberus
I\'m personally hoping that is what happens, I want to see him paraded around in humiliating fashion, but I can\'t see it happening.
Are we taking about Iraq...... or Toy Blair again ;).....:p
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Saddam would do a Hitler if they came that close to him.
If he was captured alive, he would try to do a Göring.
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I am having Southpark Movie flashbacks of Saddam in hell with satan.
:hat:ScottyJ:hat:
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It doesn\'t matter to me at all, really. Where are the WMDs? Uday and Qusay can\'t very well tell us now can they? If Bush and the Hawks want to do something that matters, they can start by findig the WMDs that were supposedly in known locations in Iraq, and better yet, they can find Osama Bin Laden It\'s amazing to me that the publicity stunt that was the invasion of Iraq has taken everyone\'s eyes away from the person responsible for 9/11, which started this whole mess.
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You really think Uday and Qusay would talk? Obviously I don\'t know these cooks, but I would have to doubt that they would talk anyway.
Although they have been babied all their lives so maybe an arm twist and a nut grab here and there could go a long way to squealling.
Osama who? ;)
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It\'s unlikely, but I was being more sarcastic if anything.
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Ah, sarcasm. We don\'t get that around here much... :)
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Originally posted by videoholic
You really think Uday and Qusay would talk? Obviously I don\'t know these cooks, but I would have to doubt that they would talk anyway.
yeah but it would of been nice to get them off to camp X-ray , Cuba to meet the camp residents.
Coporal Punishment
&
Private Parts
i hear that there camp routine called "electrodes on the penis" is a hoot.
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I heard that one of his sons raped women for sport.
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Vivi - honestly, who cares what you heard? I guess you heard it from someone who heard it from someone who heard it from someone who heard it from an uncomfirmed news source, who heard it from someone... My point? Who cares, Vivi..
I agree Luckee, I also find it amazin\' that this war distraction actually worked on the blind American public. September 11th came and went. We waged war on Osama Bin Laden and promised to capture him. It never happened. We switched and then Saddam became the big bad guy - even though there are no links what so ever to him and 9/11. We can\'t find him - so we go after his sons and kill them..
Before anyone else gives me a lecture on what they did or supposely done. I\'ve heard about it. I don\'t care. I see no point in killing them. I see no point in this war. I do see a point in finding Osama Bin Laden - but the Bush Adminstration couldn\'t do that, so they\'ve pretty much given up and found a new target for the American\'s who demand blood.
We\'ve yet to find weapons of mass destruction. We\'ve yet to find even proof that they was being made. All we have is Bush saying they exist and his intelligence which keeps comin\' out to be false. With all this effort , why not focus on the main problem? The one who attacked us on 9/11? Why divert energy, soliders and money to something that isn\'t nearly as important. Not at this time and period.
In simple english. I\'m all for finding Osama Bin Laden and his gang and if the Bush Adminstration could come up with solid links bewteen Saddam and Osama, I\'d even give support for this crusade . Instead, it seems as though this war and Saddam have simply been a way to get Osama and Bush\'s failure out of the public eye and that in my opinion is poor, piss poor to be precise.
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:soapbox: :wave: :cursin: :banghead: :mecry:
:smileysex :sperm:
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Originally posted by ViVi
I heard that one of his sons raped women for sport.
i think it was uday, he used to send his men to get any women he saw then he raped the women, if she showed any sign of resistance he would have her and her family killed.
he also enjoyed watching people get tortured, one of his favourites apparently was lowering prisoners into a tub filled with acid.
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you can see the pictures of saddam\'s dead sons here
http://www.msnbc.com/news/870749.asp
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They look healthy ;)
"Uday" didnt look like Uday.. Swollen face etc.
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They sure look like they have taken a battering.
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**** you LIC. Who really cares about you or your opinions. I was just making conversation.
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I could waste this thread writing about how ****ing gay and worthless you are, but I\'ll save it.
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*yawn*
Remind me - why he was unbanned? The single most worthless member.
I\'ll put it this way. Anyone who makes jokes about people with cancer, is a worthless member. A worthless member\'s opinion is worth nothing...So, you do the math, Vivi.
And quit spamming. There was no sense in posting twice, for christ sake.
With that said - back on topic.
Anyone have any opinions on the photo\'s being released? I find it odd that they are being released, yet our own goverment threw a fit when photo\'s of our dead soliders was released in Iraq.
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I think, that we are making a mistake releasing the photos, I think it can be taken the wrong way and only fuel more hate towards U.S. Soilders.
I was watching some Fox News today, and really, they should hire some news anchors who have a clue what they are talking about...
Im not sure of the guys name, but the news anchor with brown hair and glasses? anyone know his name?
He was making the most retarded arguments against people who know what they are talking about....
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Now, now.. Group hug. :ghey:
You two have make up sex.
LiC: I agree, odd.
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And another thing, the fox news anchor at one point said that we had captured 2,000 top Al-queda officials O.o
I think thats a bit of an exagoration :P
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Be soldiers of the Christ
"For though we walk in the flesh, we do not wage warefare according to what we are in the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not fleshly, but powerful by God for overturning strongly entrenched things. For we are overturning reasonings and every lofty thing raised up against the knowledge of God; and we are bringing every thought into captivity to make it obedient to the Christ; and we are holding ourselves in readiness to inflict punishment for every disobedience as soon as your own obedience has been fully carried out."
- Corinthians 10:4-6
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There is reason to believe we have 2000 members. I think the word Top Officials is a bit over the top.
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he should be caught alive then hung like a pinyata and everyone who was a close family or firend of a person he killed should hit him 5 times with a big stick.
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Vivi..stop being an ass or go away.
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OK... since you asked Luckee :rolleyes:
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Vivi is a guy?! I tought it was a girl!!! Isn\'t there another memember with a name just like his?
Clowd whats up with your sudden change of heart? I mean preaching and stuff...
As for the photos, I think that\'s yet another mistake. Sure they say is just to prove to the Iraqi people they are dead, but what about the people that still are loyal to them. No matter how big and bad those two guys were, nobody has the right to distribute pictures just to show off the fact that they killed them. It\'s just as bad as the Iraqi Gov. showing pictures of dead US soldiers...three died today by the way.
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While it does spread belief that we did indeed kill them I only see this as a reason for them to retaliate in a similar fashion.
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I can\'t believe the US administration would show these pictures. The American people were pretty offended by the Mogadishu thing, suppose I should be used to the one rule for them and one for us thing though.
I\'m getting p*ssed off with the lengths Bush and Blair feel they have to go to justify all this bullsh*t, when will they realise they\'ve already lost.
Oh and F*ck off Vivi, your opinions still don\'t mean sh*t.
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The dude was shot 14 times and lived. THe Iraqi people need to really believe they are dead. I have no problem with them showing the pics.
If we didn\'t show the pictures you\'d probably bitch about that too GM.
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If the US Marines say it\'s dead then I\'d be strongly inclined to believe them. It seems to be all they\'re good at.
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Yeah, you believe them about the WMDs as well. You really need to figure out your views on life.
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You can\'t tar everything with the same brush. I trust that they\'ve killed Saddams sons as US troops are VERY good at killing everything that moves. I don\'t trust people regarding WMD because they\'re desperate, plus all evidence up to this point shows that the war was wrong using their reasons.
There\'s no sorting out to do with my views on life, I just use the evidence I see to draw conclusions. The evidence to this point shows that US troops can kill shit and the US and UK governments are liars.
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You may trust that they have killed Saddam\'s sons, but most Iraqi\'s need proof. I love how you somehow plug the overly hyped WMD fiasco into this thread about the photographs of two dead criminals.
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Originally posted by videoholic
Yeah, you believe them about the WMDs as well. You really need to figure out your views on life.
You asked for it!!
;)
We\'ll, not you personally but......
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Some of you are overlooking the big picture. The Bush Adminstration threw a fit when video and pictures was released of our own soliders dead, but now that it is Iraqi leaders being killed, pictures are A-OK to be released. There was no need in it.
I would believe they killed them, if they said they did . WMD is another story though and for different reasons and you know that .
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Some of you are overlooking the big picture. The Bush Adminstration threw a fit when video and pictures was released of our own soliders dead, but now that it is Iraqi leaders being killed, pictures are A-OK to be released. There was no need in it.
Did you really think any of them were going to bring that up? Since most argued that when the iraqis did it.
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Where were all you who are criticizing the adminstration when Iraq was showing dead US troops? As a group you didn\'t raise nearly the amount of fuss that you are raising in this case. Just another showing of the hatred and skepticism you have for your own country when you ramble on about two people who are guilty of numerous crimes against humanity.
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What the **** did I do? LIC was just rude.
And Green Meanie, you can die for all I care.
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
Some of you are overlooking the big picture. The Bush Adminstration threw a fit when video and pictures was released of our own soliders dead, but now that it is Iraqi leaders being killed, pictures are A-OK to be released. There was no need in it.
I would believe they killed them, if they said they did . WMD is another story though and for different reasons and you know that .
What is there to prove by showing our soldiers dying? We believe they are dead. We trust that our government wouldn\'t lie to us and tell us our soldiers are dead.
The Iraqi\'s don\'t believe it though. THey have gone through a hell of a lot and need to know that these tyrants won\'t come back.
That is the big picture.
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Originally posted by ViVi
And Green Meanie, you can die for all I care.
:laughing: :laughing: now that made my day.
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Where were all you who are criticizing the adminstration when Iraq was showing dead US troops? As a group you didn\'t raise nearly the amount of fuss that you are raising in this case. Just another showing of the hatred and skepticism you have for your own country when you ramble on about two people who are guilty of numerous crimes against humanity.
The fact is myself and at least two others didnt give a flying **** if our guys/gals were on TV or not.
The US made this big stink...ran off at the mouth war crimes...yadda..yadda..yadda over showing them on TV. Yet it is ok for us to do the same.
Hypocite much?
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The fact is, you complain when the US shows bodies, yet in your own words... "myself and at least two others didnt give a flying **** if our guys/gals were on TV or not."
So answer me this... why you care about 2 dead Iraqis being shown on television? Maybe its because you despise the government? Why don\'t you get down to real reasons you think everything the US does is wrong... not only you, but LIC as well...
No matter what was done, I am sure the lot of you would complain.
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
Clowd whats up with your sudden change of heart? I mean preaching and stuff...
Warefare of the flesh will not solve the problems of today. All the military might in the world will not bring an end to violence. You might as well be chasing the wind.
Therefore,
\'...beat your swords into plowshares and your spears into pruning shears...\'
-Isaiah 2:4
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I know this is rich comming from me but you guys are starting to scare me :sconf: :eek: :sconf:.
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I don\'t remember someone bringing up the whole US soldier pictures. If you all did, then I didn\'t say anything about it. So I think it\'s retarded for both sides to do this kind of garbage. It\'s disrespectful to the families of the one that were killed. Doesn\'t matter how evil they were. The US people were hurt by the pictures of the dead soldiers, why on earth would the US be as insensitive and pull a stunt that they argued so much against. It doesn\'t matter how evil those two were, what matters is how the world looks at it. It\'s ok for the side showing the pictures, It\'s not ok for the rest of the world. Why would the Iraqi\'s even care if they are dead? They\'re "free" aren\'t they? How is showing the pictures of those two guys to the whole world going to help the US soldiers being murdered everyday?
Iraqi Soldier" You\'re going to die you american pig"
Us soldier "LOOK!!!" *shows pictures*
Iraqi Soldier "ohhh noooo please noooo" *shoots himself*
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
The fact is, you complain when the US shows bodies, yet in your own words... "myself and at least two others didnt give a flying **** if our guys/gals were on TV or not."
So answer me this... why you care about 2 dead Iraqis being shown on television? Maybe its because you despise the government? Why don\'t you get down to real reasons you think everything the US does is wrong... not only you, but LIC as well...
No matter what was done, I am sure the lot of you would complain.
I swear you have a huge problem with reading or comprehending. I always have to tell you this.
Anywho...let\'s try together now.
I complained b/c of the principle, IE..my hypocrite much statement.
Why is it ok for the US to show them on TV but the Iraqis were blasted all to hell for doing the same thing. Hell, the US even threatend war crime charges.
Is it a little more clear for you foggy?
As for the rest of your comment. I don\'t think everything our government does is wrong, I don\'t remember saying that, so I will thank you not to put words in my mouth. Unless that is the only way you can have a discussion with me.( something else you do all of the time when we debate)
There was NO good reason for the gov. to display them on TV since they were so adament about the Iraqis showing our brave men and women. That is the point.
once again..hypocrite much?
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It\'s good that they show them to the Iraqis. It\'s the media over here that keeps showing us the images. I don\'t need to see it every five minutes but unlike most gruesome images, these don\'t bother me too much.
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Originally posted by luckee
As for the rest of your comment. I don\'t think everything our government does is wrong, I don\'t remember saying that, so I will thank you not to put words in my mouth. Unless that is the only way you can have a discussion with me.( something else you do all of the time when we debate)
There was NO good reason for the gov. to display them on TV since they were so adament about the Iraqis showing our brave men and women. That is the point.
once again..hypocrite much?
Ahhh you have to resort to name calling... anyway, you obviously don\'t have a grasp on reality for if you did you would understand that the Iraqi\'s are still terrified of these people. I was just watching some interviews with some Iraqi citizens who after seeing the bodies STILL don\'t believe they are dead. To try and make some of these people understand that the former Iraqi regime is dead is not a good enough reason?
Also, don\'t compare Saddam and his sons to normal Iraqi citizens. If you knew anything about war and history you would know that since World War II imagery of war and its effects has been widespread. Numerous photographs of Hitler, Goring, Himmler along with deceased Japanese officials were shown. Was it wrong to show those? Was it wrong to show the world victims of the Holocaust? I find it laughable that you think the dead bodies of two "evil" brothers being displayed for identification offensive. In essense you are the hypocrite in that you find nothing wrong with showing dead Americans on TV, but god forbid they show any dead Iraqis.
You put your own words in your own mouth no matter how veiled you try and make them. Don\'t try and hide behind your insinuations and claim I am putting words in your mouth it just makes you look stupid along with the name calling and pithy little insults.
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If they don\'t believe it then thats their problem!!
Maybe it\'s just the fact that Bush\'s governemtn has the tendency to lie about things just to get things their way. Maybe it\'s the fact that they have the rep of never catching the target.
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Yeah, it has nothing to do with the decades of torcher and living in a repressed society.
You gotten a job yet?
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
Ahhh you have to resort to name calling... anyway, you obviously don\'t have a grasp on reality for if you did you would understand that the Iraqi\'s are still terrified of these people. I was just watching some interviews with some Iraqi citizens who after seeing the bodies STILL don\'t believe they are dead. To try and make some of these people understand that the former Iraqi regime is dead is not a good enough reason?
Also, don\'t compare Saddam and his sons to normal Iraqi citizens. If you knew anything about war and history you would know that since World War II imagery of war and its effects has been widespread. Numerous photographs of Hitler, Goring, Himmler along with deceased Japanese officials were shown. Was it wrong to show those? Was it wrong to show the world victims of the Holocaust? I find it laughable that you think the dead bodies of two "evil" brothers being displayed for identification offensive. In essense you are the hypocrite in that you find nothing wrong with showing dead Americans on TV, but god forbid they show any dead Iraqis.
You put your own words in your own mouth no matter how veiled you try and make them. Don\'t try and hide behind your insinuations and claim I am putting words in your mouth it just makes you look stupid along with the name calling and pithy little insults.
Point out where I called you a name.......
Anywho....dont try to side step this. The point is not to convince the Iraqi ppl, espescially considering most of them dont tune in the states anyway....but the point is the stink they raised when the Iraqis did the same thing.
Dont try to go around what we are talking about in order to prove your point.
I didnt compare anything and I dont care what was shown in the past. Since you still have a problem comprehending, lets try this one more time.
i DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANYONE SHOWING ANY DEAD MOTHER****ER ON TV....GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. i HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HYPOCRISY DISPLAYED BY OUR GOVERNMENT AS USUAL.
Is that more clear? Once agaion, I do not care who shows what. I just think what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Not crying when someone else does what you do, or b/c they beat you to it.
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No, Luckee. They are goin\' to avoid your point and continue on with this non-sense.. I\'m like you - I don\'t care about them showing these images. I am not being forced to look at them, but I think it\'s pathetic that our goverment threw a fit when pictures was shown of our soliders. Now that we have the bragging rights - it\'s okay for the goverment to show the pictures.
It\'s a rather clear point - but if you want to be blind to it, that\'s okay.
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Originally posted by luckee
Point out where I called you a name.......
Anywho....dont try to side step this. The point is not to convince the Iraqi ppl, espescially considering most of them dont tune in the states anyway....but the point is the stink they raised when the Iraqis did the same thing.
Dont try to go around what we are talking about in order to prove your point.
I didnt compare anything and I dont care what was shown in the past. Since you still have a problem comprehending, lets try this one more time.
i DONT HAVE A PROBLEM WITH ANYONE SHOWING ANY DEAD MOTHER****ER ON TV....GET THAT THROUGH YOUR HEAD. i HAVE A PROBLEM WITH THE HYPOCRISY DISPLAYED BY OUR GOVERNMENT AS USUAL.
Is that more clear? Once agaion, I do not care who shows what. I just think what is good for the goose is good for the gander. Not crying when someone else does what you do, or b/c they beat you to it.
you are wrong as usual... :rolleyes: read what you type.
I don\'t think you can comprehend what you write... typical for one such as you.
:rolleyes:
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Clowd is reminding me of D-von dudley (when he turned into a preist for a while)
but anyway, I Think, that the US has to prove to the Iraqis that Saddams sons are dead, but, I do not think they can just go and release photos after saying it is wrong. So, if the US never said it was wrong in the first place, i\'d have no problem with this.
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Ok Giga, I\'ll try to explain to you what Luckee is trying to tell you in baby steps..
Are you ready?
Ok
He did NOT care about the pictures of dead US soldiers....
He did NOT care about the pictures of the dead brothers....
He DOES care that the Bush\'s Gov. made a big deal out of them showing the pictures, then they go on and do the same....
Do you understand now? I know it\'s hard but don\'t worry you\'ll soon be a normal boy.
Anyways, so in order to justify the Bush\'s Gov. showing the pics, they said they did it to prove to the Iraqi people they were dead. Isn\'t that the reason the Iraqi Gov. showed the pictures to their people also?
The difference...The Iraqi gov. was all out with the showing off. Bush\'s Gov. Kept it reserved.
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I honestly can\'t believe that you guys are comparing the use of pictures of dead soldiers which would prove nothing to anyone to the use of pictures of two dead Iraqi\'s who have killed thousands of people and torchered thousands of people. THese are two people who the Iraqi people fear. Who the Iraqi people need to see dead.
How in God\'s name does this have anything to do with showing pics of dead soldiers? Or even dead civilians for that matter? Would showing pics of dead soldiers prove anything?
Were people ever doubting that Civilians were killed? Nope.
Were people ever doubting that soldiers were being killed? Nope.
So showing those pics would mean nothing.
It\'s not a war crime to show pics of the dead.
It is a war crime to show pics of POW.
I just thinking you guys are comparing apples to couches to attempt to have a point.
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No you guys are just trying to justify the showing of those two goons whilst cryed when Iraq did the same.
I also seem to remember watching footage of Iraqi POW\'s in custody on television, I know Im not the only one.
you are wrong as usual... read what you type.
I don\'t think you can comprehend what you write... typical for one such as you.
I didnt think you could address anything. It\'s ok though. Do you at least understand now?
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Originally posted by luckee
No you guys are just trying to justify the showing of those two goons whilst cryed when Iraq did the same.
So Iraq showed dead American goons? Glad to know what you think of your typical American serviceman/woman.
The point is luckee that Saddams sons were prominent in the regime - on the same par as Hitlers subordinates. Now if the US government were showing photos of run of the mill Iraqi soldiers WHERE THEY COULD BE IDENTIFIED - as the Iraqis did to the dead American grunts then yes you would have a valid argument - if we had displayed bodies of Iraqi soldier John Doe and had one of our guys laughing over their corpse I would agree with you totally. As this isn\'t the case you have none. As you stated, you don\'t care that that government sponsored Iraqis displayed the bodies of the Americans... so WTF do you care now that the US is displaying bodies of the second and third most wanted fugitives? The answer is easy... I believe you can refer to my previous post - you hate the US government and will whine about anything you perceive (which is about everything) as wrong.
I am done with this topic. You are wrong and your reasoning is faulty. Some topics you make good cases on, but this one isn\'t one of them.
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God Giga honestly all you do is sniff around shit that you can use to call people anti-american or some crazy shit like that. You know what he means, you just got your lips super glued to Bush\'s ass to see pass his ass crack.
Ohh and sure.. I HATE BUSH\'S GOVERNMENT!! THERE!!
NOT AMERICA, NOT THIS COUNTRY, BUSH\'S GOVERNMENT.
The fool just passed some new tax thing where people get 1000 bucks per kid....ohh no wait only to people that make over 26k per year...wheeww for a minute there I tought that all the high payed people would go poor....
If the US hated them showing the pics, it should of done what they fought about. They preach, but never follow.
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Originally posted by GigaShadow
So Iraq showed dead American goons? Glad to know what you think of your typical American serviceman/woman.
The point is luckee that Saddams sons were prominent in the regime - on the same par as Hitlers subordinates. Now if the US government were showing photos of run of the mill Iraqi soldiers WHERE THEY COULD BE IDENTIFIED - as the Iraqis did to the dead American grunts then yes you would have a valid argument - if we had displayed bodies of Iraqi soldier John Doe and had one of our guys laughing over their corpse I would agree with you totally. As this isn\'t the case you have none. As you stated, you don\'t care that that government sponsored Iraqis displayed the bodies of the Americans... so WTF do you care now that the US is displaying bodies of the second and third most wanted fugitives? The answer is easy... I believe you can refer to my previous post - you hate the US government and will whine about anything you perceive (which is about everything) as wrong.
I am done with this topic. You are wrong and your reasoning is faulty. Some topics you make good cases on, but this one isn\'t one of them.
Once again you are trying to justify something that we aren\'t even arguing.
Lets make this simple for the 10th time.
It\'s like if I walked up to you and hit you and you complained I hit you for no reason. Then walking up to LIC and doing the same thing. If you are going to do it as well, dont cry when someone else does it.
Who ppl were have nothing to do with what some of us are arguing.
So everytime these idiots do something, how come I dont post about it? Only once in a while and you know it. I post about who ever ****s up.
Im glad your done and Im pretty sure I know why. You csimply cannot argue what Im claiming.
Now you are arguing with me about something else that I have no intrest in as I do not care what country shows what to who.
*EDIT** BTW... So Iraq showed dead American goons? Glad to know what you think of your typical American serviceman/woman.
Don\'t play semantics just b/c you have nothing on this pal.
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
God Giga honestly all you do is sniff around shit that you can use to call people anti-american or some crazy shit like that. You know what he means, you just got your lips super glued to Bush\'s ass to see pass his ass crack.
Ohh and sure.. I HATE BUSH\'S GOVERNMENT!! THERE!!
NOT AMERICA, NOT THIS COUNTRY, BUSH\'S GOVERNMENT.
The fool just passed some new tax thing where people get 1000 bucks per kid....ohh no wait only to people that make over 26k per year...wheeww for a minute there I tought that all the high payed people would go poor....
If the US hated them showing the pics, it should of done what they fought about. They preach, but never follow.
Where is this thousand bucks? We make well over 100k and I only got 400 bucks. Damnit, this is suppose to be a tax cut for rich people damnit!!! I want my grand!!!
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
Ohh and sure.. I HATE BUSH\'S GOVERNMENT!! THERE!!
NOT AMERICA, NOT THIS COUNTRY, BUSH\'S GOVERNMENT.
And why? Because he won\'t let every Mexican who crosses the Rio Grande become a citizen. God help us if that ever happens. :rolleyes:
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Originally posted by luckee
Who ppl were have nothing to do with what some of us are arguing.
That has everything to do with it. Sorry you can\'t understand that.
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It\'s amazing how much people let their emotions come into play in regards to something that doesn\'t directly effect them. The world sucks; period. It wouldnt\' make a difference who we would have in office, these problems still would have arose. Perhaps you disagree with the decisions your government has made, thats great, unfortunately your opinion is worthless in terms of making anything for this country, or the world, better. But thats what we do at a forum, we argue. So commence with the bitching and whining, you\'re only entertaining one another!
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SEE WHAT I MEAN GIGA?!
You\'re like one of those girls that keep on bitching about shit said in the past. Hoping you\'ll get things your way. Well guess what you crackhead it\'s not. You come in here and **** around with other people and shout out to the world how god damn intelligent you are. Yet, you rely on retarded old stupid shit in order to feel that way...Sad, I know..
I don\'t like Bush\'s government. Because they\'re liars, wasted alot of money, forget the people that really need that money, hypocritical, and b/c he read a book upside down. Among other crap. If you want to include the whole immigration issue, that\'s ****ing fine with me. Just don\'t try to shove it in my face to make your sorry ass seem more superior. B/c you aren\'t.
Just get it through your head, the pictures should have not been shown period. If they wanted to prove that they were dead, why not hold some kind of get together and bury them. Tell the press what happened and there. They wouln\'t seem as hypocritical, and they would seem like angels to the rest of the world.
Newayz, I\'ll find a link video with that story. It was on the news.
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NEWAYS...c\'mon do you really think im pissy about all this. Im 16. I don\'t know how mature you think you are, but if im immature b/c of what I wrote. Then so be it. Sarcasm, cussing, and GWB make a powerful combination for retarded comments.
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Mystiq lives in his own little world in Dallas, TX. I think he\'s just grumpy because George Busch is keeping him from getting a job at Taco Bell.
UGH. You are dealing with people who have been torchered for years by these two people and you want to hold a freaking funeral? Huh??? WTF are you talking about??
A funeral is where you honor the dead with a burial. You want to invite the entire country who are scared to death of these two people to come look at a closed box going into a hole?
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What in God\'s name is that going to prove? But you know what, it makes no difference what Mr. 16 year old in Dallas, Texas thinks. THe only people that matter are the Iraqi\'s. I couldn\'t imagine the feeling if a regime controlled my life my entire existence and then all of the sudden they were gone and I was free to do at will.
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Originally posted by SwifDi
It\'s amazing how much people let their emotions come into play in regards to something that doesn\'t directly effect them. The world sucks; period. It wouldnt\' make a difference who we would have in office, these problems still would have arose. Perhaps you disagree with the decisions your government has made, thats great, unfortunately your opinion is worthless in terms of making anything for this country, or the world, better. But thats what we do at a forum, we argue. So commence with the bitching and whining, you\'re only entertaining one another!
You are figuring this out now? And on top of that you are saying it to a couple fella\'s, who one has at least 10 years on you. You\'re not saying anything new.
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It was sarcasm Vid, I guess I forgot to sue the little face. All im saying they should of found a better way to prove it to the Iraqis.
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Originally posted by luckee
You are figuring this out now? And on top of that you are saying it to a couple fella\'s, who one has at least 10 years on you. You\'re not saying anything new.
What the hell does age have to do with anything, and since when do you get off bashing everyone because you are so much smarter and better than everyone else. You may not verbally say this in your posts, but you sure come across that way. No one is perfect but you my friend sure act as if you are. I\'d like to see what you\'d be doing in Iraq right now. You have no idea how they feel, all you get is the god damn news that feeds everyone twisted bullshit, and truth everyonce in awhile, this is not completely directed towards luckee in anyway, except for the fact that he bashed Swif for no apparent reason. I don\'t think alot of you realize somethings, and for whatever reason ever will.
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Originally posted by ViVi
What the **** did I do? LIC was just rude.
And Green Meanie, you can die for all I care.
What, die of cancer possibly.
For your info everyone I know from my friends and family that has died in the past 8 years has died of cancer, including my dog.
So **** you.
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Originally posted by mjps21983
What the hell does age have to do with anything, and since when do you get off bashing everyone because you are so much smarter and better than everyone else. You may not verbally say this in your posts, but you sure come across that way. No one is perfect but you my friend sure act as if you are. I\'d like to see what you\'d be doing in Iraq right now. You have no idea how they feel, all you get is the god damn news that feeds everyone twisted bullshit, and truth everyonce in awhile, this is not completely directed towards luckee in anyway, except for the fact that he bashed Swif for no apparent reason. I don\'t think alot of you realize somethings, and for whatever reason ever will.
Uhm, just re-read what he wrote and how I replied just one more time.
That is like the cliche answer that pops up in these types of forums all of the time.
As for the smarter than everyone else comment you made, just look again as I know where I stand in life as far as intelligence at the moment. And it isn\'t about being smarter than *whomever* in here.
Id like to see what YOU are doing in Iraq.....
I didn\'t bash him at all in here, keep your mind out of OT....
I don\'t think you will either....
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Originally posted by SirMystiq
It was sarcasm Vid, I guess I forgot to sue the little face. All im saying they should of found a better way to prove it to the Iraqis.
Name a better way? I mean after all, you do have all of the answers.
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Originally posted by Green Meanie
What, die of cancer possibly.
For your info everyone I know from my friends and family that has died in the past 8 years has died of cancer, including my dog.
So **** you.
lol who said anything about cancer :nut:
You weren\'t even part of the arguement and you butted into it.
I\'m not even going to waste my time with you.
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You already have moron.
I already told you 3 times, keep your bullshit out of here.
You want to argue..take it to PM or OT.
You rpely to me in this thread or start one in here, you\'re banned. That simple.