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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: theomen on August 06, 2003, 07:52:44 PM
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Woot, Woot. I for one will vote for him as I\'ve been a huge fan of his political views over the years.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A25644-2003Aug6?language=printer
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I know this should be in the political forums, but since more people will notice it here.....
http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&u=/ap/20030807/ap_on_el_gu/davis_recall&cid=511&ncid=716
Schwarzenegger Announces Calif. Gov. Bid
7 minutes ago
By ERICA WERNER, Associated Press Writer
LOS ANGELES - Arnold Schwarzenegger ended the suspense Wednesday and jumped into the race for California governor, instantly becoming the best-known of the declared candidates seeking to replace Democrat Gray Davis in a recall.
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:rolleyes:
Well, I don\'t think he is the one that will be able to solve the 38 BILLION dollar deficit this state has, but I will say, he will be BETTER then Davis (which, if you really think about it, almost ANYONE is better then Davis. Even that Arianna "SUVs are evil while I live in big fancy mansions and fly in private airplanes" Huffington would be better. At least with her, you see the knife that is going to stab you in the back).
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I said I would vote for him as well even though I\'m moreso a democrat and he\'s a republican. I love his policies on education and after school programs for young children to keep them off the streets. Good stuff there.
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^^
Even though he\'s a Republican, he\'s about the most Democratic Republican you\'ll find. I think he calls himself a liberal republican.
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Agreed. He\'s not really all that big in terms of upping taxes and making himself even more rich than he already is. From what I can tell, he is genuinely interested in improving the state and I applaud him 10x\'s over for wanting to do that. Though I\'m sure he\'ll be slammed many a time for his policies by openly democratic newspapers such as the SF chronicle, but hey, he can\'t hide his image and it\'ll help him more than it\'ll hurt him. He pushes for what he thinks is right for the future and I have no problem with him for that.
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(LO)SER, you\'re teh ghey. :ghey:
Someone merge this thread with the RIGHT one in the RIGHT forum. :p
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I saw on tv today that Gary Coleman and some porn star with huge breasts are also running for governor. Out of these 3 Arnie would get my vote.
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Originally posted by Kurt Angle
I saw on tv today that Gary Coleman and some porn star with huge breasts are also running for governor. Out of these 3 Arnie would get my vote.
The porn star with huge breasts would get my vote.
:facelick:
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Can he Run for Prez... ?
Because Arnold is and has been a US Citizen for some time now.
or is it only open to people who born in the USA ?
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Check out this link!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/3128015.stm
Apparently Mary Carey the 22 year old porn star candidate wants to tax breast implants and swap guns for x-rated movies to reduce violence. ROFL!:laughing:
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Have to be born here. I think he could become a senator, but that\'s about as high as he can go.
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Anyone see his speach today? He did a hell of a job, he talked about how he\'s not going to be bought by special interest, how leadership is more important than experience, and made a joke at Gray Davis\' expense. It was pretty impressive. I\'m contemplaiting campaining for him.
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I am totally voting for Gary Coleman. Who cares what his platform is, how can you NOT vote for Gary Coleman? :p
Just kidding. I will post a serious thread on this recall after a while.
Actually I must add that I was driving east on Sunset Blvd on Saturday, and the traffic brought my car to a stop in front of the Hustler store. Gallagher was on the corner collecting signatures for his campaign. I was no more than 10 feet away from him. I could have given him a lift if he was going anywere. So anyway, consider that yet another threat to Arnold\'s bid for power. Who would win in a fight, the T-100, or Gallagher with an enormous sledgehammer? Somthing to think about. :)
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Another one to think about is if Arnie wins, and a 50 Governor Battle Royal broke out.....Who would win?
I would imagine it would come down to Ventura and Arnold. But from there it\'s a toss up.
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How\'s Arnie going to pay for all his pie in the sky programs? It seems the things he wants to do is the reason CA is in the pickle that it\'s in.
Arnold says Everything must be provided to the people.
:rolleyes:
Ace
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Like I said, I don\'t think Arnold is the best candidate that will solve the 38 billion dollar deficit. He is too liberal in certain areas, like the fact that he supports many social programs. However, the other thing I hear, he wants to bring back business. If he is serious about this, that would mean making improving California\'s business climate. Creating jobs, more revenue...this all sounds good.
I still maintained, he would be a HUGE improvement over Davis and, I might go as far as say, would help save the state from oblivion.
The arguement could be, that he wants to bring back the business to fund all these social programs. Better this, then having a ton of social programs with no business to fund them. Until the day a TRUE conservative can be elected (i.e. Tom McClintock [who almost won the Controller seat in the last election. He was the closest Republican to win in the last election. But he has little chance in this recall election to become governor) Arnold would still be a move in the right direction.
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Well I hope that a "true conservative" never wins in cali. But if they do, I\'m moving to nevada.
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Yeah, true Dems have served you so well. :rolleyes:
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I don\'t like true Dems either, I\'m actually a registered republican. I just don\'t like true conservatives.
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Well I\'m not too much with the extreme right wing of the party (i.e. the social conservatives). But my views are what you may call "true conservatives" values. Pro-life, pro-gun, anti-big government. Now unlike some of the diehards, I know a true conservative would probably not win this state anytime soon. I just feel, a "true conservative" (i.e. Tom McClintock) would be better then Arnold when it comes to politics.
Note, when I say a "true conservative", I\'m not talking about Bush and company. Bush is, if anything, a moderate. Right of center political oppurtunist. Now, he is too far to the right of many liberals granted, but not a "true conservative" either.
Not saying that I won\'t support Arnold. He would be a VAST improvement over Davis. And I would be more then happy being governed by Arnold. Just that, I would support Tom McClintock first before I support Arnold.
P.S. Ironically, you will meet a lot of those "true conservatives" in Nevada who have all left due to Democratic mismangement in this state.
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where am I safe!? :)
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Who would you vote for? ;)
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Name: Mary "Mary Carey" Cook.
Age: 22.
Occupation: Porn star
Party: None
Family: -
Education: -
Career highlight: Movie "New Wave Hookers 7".
Goal: Wants to introduce tax on breast implants and make lap dances reduction valid.
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Name: Larry Flynt.
Age: 60.
Occupation: Porn king
Party: Democrat
Family: Wife, five kids
Education: Senior level of compulsory school
Career highlight: Served six months in jail for court defiance.
Goal/Quote: "The fact that I make money on porn does not mean that I don’t care about the difficult problems we all face."
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Name: Mathilda Karel Spak.
Age: 100.
Party: None.
Occupation: Voluntary work at a old people\'s home.
Family: Widow, no children.
Education: Economics
Career highlight: Worked as a estate agent and insurance employee in Chicago. Retired in 1960.
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Name: Angelyne.
Age: "Timeless".
Party: None
Occupation: Poster model, entertainer.
Family: Single, no children
Education: Wont tell.
Career highlights: Known for her campaigns on posters. Has taken part in 43 movies and over 1000 magazines and tv-shows.
Quote: We have had Brown. We have had Gray. Now its time for something blond and pink."
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Name: Gary Wayne Coleman.
Age: 35.
Party: None.
Occupation: B-class actor
Family: Single
Education: -
Career highlight: Played the leading part as Arnold Drummonds in the tv-show "Different strokes" in the 1970:is.
Quote: "I\'m the most qualified man for this job"
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Name: Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Age: 56.
Party: Republican
Family: Wife Maria Shriver, four children.
Education: Education in economics, University of Wisconsin-Superior.
Career highlights: Mr Olympia-winner in bodybuilding seven times.. "Terminator" movies.
Quote: "I have lots of money. No one can buy me. Trust me. No one."
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I want it to be known that I am very good friends with Angelyne. Yes, I\'ve seen her on several occasions, and she even waved to me from her pink C4 Vette. I pretended not to notice. :(
PS That is a TRUE story. :)
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In an online vote, I think cnn did it, Arnold won with %25 of the vote. Cruz Bustamante came in second with 15 percent and numerous others with 5-7 percent.
Not that it means anything, just interesting.
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Arnold is definitely winning. Some are saying it is even "his" election to lose here. However, 56 (or is it 55? 54?) days is still enough time for the Davis slime machine to get into action. Arnold better be ready with the onslaught of one of the meanest and disgusting negative campaigns waged by the Davis and Company (known for being one of the dirtiest politicans ever when it comes to campaigning). Now, Davis himself might not win (gallop had him losing like 67%. Big number to over come in the next 2 months or so. But the hope is, Cruz "I\'m not a racist even though I used the \'n\' word in front of a group of black people in Oakland" Bustamonte could get a boast if Arnold can\'t respond to Davis and Company).
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I Can\'t wait for the televised debate with Arnold, imagine the fights between the candidates.
Opposing candidate “ How can you vote for a man that is known for walking around like a cyborg , shooting people with a Anti Tank Gun and saying ‘AssssHooollllleeeeee’ in a Austrian accent”
Arnold “‘AssssHooollllleeeeee’ *he pulls out a Anti Tank Gun and starts blowing away the other candidates*”
Arnold “Are there anymore questions ? “
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Probably won\'t have any debates, because there\'s 200 candidates, instead of the usuall 3-4
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Yeah, no debates... yet another example of what a farce this entire process is.
The recall election will cost $66 million, most of which will be borne by county governments that have not budgeted for it. Can\'t wait to find out what effect that will have.
Gray Davis has every right to mount a negative campaign. Bitter nutcase conservatives are attempting to remove a legally elected officeholder simply because they disagree with him. He has broken no laws. Gee... I thought you were supposed to WAIT FOR THE NEXT ELECTION before trying to replace the Governor... oh was I wrong about that? Hmmm my bad.
Welcome to the Banana Republic of California.
Arnold: "I promise you THIS, ... THAT.... AND THE OTHER THING!"
:rolleyes:
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I\'m sure you level headed Californians will do the right thing. :rolleyes:
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Like it or not, the recall initiative has been a part of California constitution. Don\'t like it, change the law. Ironically, the recall initiative was put in place by progressives who wanted the people to have the power in government. Funny when the process is finally being used, people are bitching about it.
Second, 66 million. Big whoop. Compared to...38 billion Gray Dufus and the Democratic controlled legistature lost...I\'d say 66 million is NOTHING. You don\'t turn a 10 billion surplus into a 38 billion dollar deficit and don\'t expect the peons to uprise now do you?
Its funny how people are saying this is a threat to democracy. This is Democracy at its puriest. This was put on the ballot, not by politicians or rich elitiest...but by the people (yes, Issa helped fund it but it was started in the grassroots level). The people still have the right to vote...the people still have choices (in fact, now 235 or so choices), just that it all is happening under a Democrat governor (EXTREMELY unpopular governor). If this was Pete Wilson when Prop 187 passed...I wonder what the media and the liberals would be saying then. Also, Gray Davis did...what is probably the stupidiest thing in the world. He tripled, TRIPLED the car tax. Even people in his party saw this as a bad idea. Reason for the recall? There is more, but I\'m not going to waste board space on this.
And no one is saying that Davis doesn\'t have the right to go negative. But that doesn\'t make it any less vile and mean spirited.
[edit]And I agree that overall, Californian voters are morons. The fact Gray Davis survied (due to the fact he did go EXTREMELY negative. Something Democrats say they are against yet do it anyways) is a clue to this.
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Nobody can debate against that.
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Wait and see.
By the way, why not leave this to us Californians?
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Originally posted by Coredweller
Wait and see.
By the way, why not leave this to us Californians?
Look where that got you so far.....:D
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WTF, Bozco in disguise?
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Hardly
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well it seems the financial advisor for the Schwarzenegger campaign is.....Warren Buffet. I\'m not thrilled about this
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When Buffet was announced, that lowered my support for Arnold. Buffet, liberal, anti-dividen tax cut (this coming from a supposed businessman), anti-any Bush tax cut, anti-Prop. 13 (says we are not paying enough. For god sakes, we may have the lowest property taxes in the nation, but we have one of the HIGHEST taxes elsewhere [income tax, sale tax, etc.). Of coarse Buffet doesn\'t care...he is already a BILLIONARE. :rolleyes:
However, in defense of Arnold, it appears that Buffet has, at the very least, been rebuked by Arnold who, through a spokesperson, been in support of Prop. 13. Doesn\'t mean that I fully trust Arnold at the moment, but it did give some hope that Arnold really is a "fiscal conservative" despite the fact that he wants to fund all these social policies.
Which BTW, his after school program? Turns out, this will NOT get funding if the state does not have a surplus. Since the state is in a deficit, this will not be funded. So, while he is no conservative, at least he has some economic sense that is DEFINETLY lacking in Sacramento.
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:laughing:
Go Arnie...
honestly I think he should win- and then beat the shit out of gary coleman.
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If you heard what he said yesterday...I\'d say it does give some hope back to fiscal conservatives that Arnold is the real deal (despite the Warren Buffet fiasco).
-He said he would call for a special session on the workers compensation crisis. Workers compenstation being so out of wack in this state, businesses are LEAVING because of it (in fact, Costco recently blamed their stock drop because of CALIFORNIA [not Arizona, not Florida, or any other state that Costco is in] workers compensation cost).
-He would NOT raise any taxes.
-Cut spending (no specifics granted...which I hope he will give later).
-Says that we are not undertaxed, instead, we are OVER taxed and the businesses are OVER regulated and OVER taxed.
-He will also lower the car tax (I think he said this yesterday. Well, even if he didn\'t, it would be an obvious that he would. Even Gray "I did not have sex with that deficit" Davis and Cruz Bustamonte now realizes this was a mistake).
Now, what might get conservatives though is, he says that he CAN\'T rule out tax increases obviously. To an extent though, I can give him a pass since...if he said he won\'t raise taxes, and does it anyways, he will be George Bush Senorized. Not that he won\'t deserve it, but he would be held accountable to those words.
Still, he did say that raising taxes is the LAST thing he would do. HE will help turn this state around unlike Bustamonte (who just announced, an 8 BILLION dollar tax increase which he calls his tough love campaign. Tough love? More like punishing hard working Californians for their own imcompetence).
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I figured it out. Jesse Ventura vs Arnold Schwarzeneggar at WrestleMania XX. Indeed.
-Eik
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Dude Jesse would own him..
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