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Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: videoholic on August 07, 2003, 04:57:18 AM
I was reading this story (http://bbspot.com/News/2003/08/plant_pain.html) and I was wondering if any of you are vegetarians?

How do you stay from being hungry all the time?

Every once and a while I have just a salad for lunch and it is brutal on me.  I get so friggen hungry by 3pm that I feel like I never ate.

It\'s like salad really is just to pass the time until the cow comes out..




Oh and on a side note. The other day Big Log was eating some steak.  He was being finicky so I told him he had to eat his cow or we couldn\'t play.  Lona looked at me and told me not to call it cow because it may make him sad.  "Um, he eats chicken doesn\'t he?"
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: ##RaCeR## on August 07, 2003, 05:06:58 AM
##RaCeR## loves meat.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: videoholic on August 07, 2003, 05:07:48 AM
Oh God.  This thread has taken a left turn and only one reply.

We all know Racer is ghey so let\'s stay on topic.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: fastson on August 07, 2003, 05:08:48 AM
Im not.

But my mom and my sister are so if my father is away on a business trip they try to convert me. Only cooking vegi food, but its not that bad.. They have almost everything we meat eaters have.. only in a vegetarian version.
”Meatballs” but no meat.. etc. I dont know why they even bother going through all that trouble.

Meat for life yo!
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: ##RaCeR## on August 07, 2003, 05:13:18 AM
Hehehe, my dad reckons he is a vegetatian, yet he eats all meat except steak, yet he eats mince, so its just stupid.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: videoholic on August 07, 2003, 05:20:20 AM
My dad doesn\'t really eat red meat much either.  Very rarely.  He\'s no vegetarian, he just doesn\'t chose to eat it.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: ooseven on August 07, 2003, 05:23:14 AM
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
##RaCeR## loves meat.



i Do believe its an  new world record for turning a thread :ghey:, I mean not even sammy or myself could pull that off.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: GmanJoe on August 07, 2003, 05:29:50 AM
Eating meat was one of the most significant events in human evolution. Meat is a compact source of protein allowing humans not to spend all their time foraging for food, like other grazing herbivores. This lead to the body using more of its energy on its large brain and not so much in its digestive system. Carnivores and omnivores have significantly larger brains than omnivores.

Also, with less time spent eating, human curiousity led them to pursue other things such as the tool making, invention of language and the forming of culture. Meat is directly responsible for creating what it means to be human.

But vegans or vegiterians will argue that in developed countries such as North America and Europe, eating meat is no longer a necessity, unlike food deprived nations in parts of Africa and Asia. North Americans and Europeans have the benefit of having food foraged for them at the supermarket so don\'t expect them to be grazing on your lawn all day. :)

However, they must eat more often since the plants and vegetables they eat do not stay long enough in their digestive system for the body to absorb all the nutrients. Fortifying their diet with vitamins is sometimes a necessity.

Both omnivore and herbivore humans still indirectly destroy the remaining forests on Earth - for farm space to feed them and the animals they eat.

I like cheese. :p
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: ##RaCeR## on August 07, 2003, 05:32:15 AM
^^

WHat a load of shit.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: GmanJoe on August 07, 2003, 05:35:00 AM
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Originally posted by ##RaCeR##
^^

WHat a load of shit.


Vegitarians do poop more often than omnivores. :p
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: videoholic on August 07, 2003, 05:36:03 AM
I actually thought GMan\'s explanation was pretty interesting.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: GmanJoe on August 07, 2003, 05:41:52 AM
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Originally posted by videoholic
I actually thought GMan\'s explanation was pretty interesting.


Thank you. I took two courses of anthropology in college. :) But just coz I like to dress up like Indiana Jones, I\'m no anthropologists (or archeologist like Indy). ;)
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: JBean on August 07, 2003, 06:40:30 AM
I eat a lot of red meat, probably too much actually.  My wife is a vegan (no animals products at all... no meat, butter, cheese, milk, etc...).

I brought up the point to her about how many hundreds of thousands of rodents and other animals that live or eat food from farm fields are killed every year getting crushed and grinded up in combines and farm equipment during harvest.  Seems that either way you can\'t get around the fact that animals get killed to provide the human race with food.  

I\'ll always eat meat though... but I plan on cutting back on my meat consumption, to lose weight.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: CHIZZY on August 07, 2003, 07:00:16 AM
I love delicious animals...I even love odd animals, like alligator,
snake, ostrich, rabbit, squirrel, buffalo....
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: Unicron! on August 07, 2003, 07:02:00 AM
I am almost a vegetarian.I dont eat any kind of meat except fish for proteins and because you cant get vitamin B12(If I rmember well thats the vitamin) from vegetables, cerials, cheese etc.Only from meat and fish.
BTW:Fish fat reduces cholesterol.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: The Stapler on August 07, 2003, 07:48:15 AM
The way I look at it, for any animal to eat, something has to die (or go through "pain", in a plant\'s case).

With that said, steak is easily one of my favorite foods! :)

btw, very interesting explanation GMan.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: guar on August 07, 2003, 08:42:57 AM
I animal, give me charred on the outside, pink on the inside.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: SwifDi on August 07, 2003, 10:15:39 AM
Nothing better than a 24 oz. porterhouse. Nothing beats the meat.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: Coredweller on August 07, 2003, 10:19:34 AM
I thought eating vegetarian was supposed to be healthier, and provide all kinds of benefits, etc.

However, one of my former coworkers is a vegetarian, and she\'s FAT!  She\'s gettin\' big, and I don\'t understand how that can happen if you\'re only eating spinach and carrots and stuff.  I guess maybe being a vegetarian doesn\'t rule out cake and muffins...
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: GmanJoe on August 07, 2003, 10:21:13 AM
She\'s ~smokin\'~ someone\'s beef stick. BTW....vegetarians can get fat from too much carbohydrates and lack of exercise.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: theomen on August 07, 2003, 11:04:41 AM
Deffinetly not a vegitarian, I have to eat an average of 200 grams of protein a day for my training and it\'s damn near impossible to do that without aminals.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: Samwise on August 07, 2003, 11:08:11 AM
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Originally posted by SwifDi
Nothing beats the meat.

Spoken like a true pro. :laughing:
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: videoholic on August 07, 2003, 11:16:48 AM
Have any of you read the article I posted in the original message? It\'s pretty funny.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: Coredweller on August 07, 2003, 11:36:27 AM
Funny, but could have been better.

Sort of like a poor man\'s "The Onion."
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: Titan on August 07, 2003, 02:04:11 PM
I\'m a meat lover. I eat meat, especially beef.

I like argueing with vegetarians. Humans are made to eat meat and plants. If we evolved to eat only plants, our bodies wouldn\'t be able to take the meat. Look at a deer. Only eats vegetables, especially in my old garden (I wanted to shoot them with a shotgun), they evolved to only eat plants. Now, sneak some beef into those plants and see what happens. They will get seriously sick because their bodies can\'t digest it. Now, if that were the case with humans, if we were only to eat plants, there would be no way for us to even think of eating a steak. Another example, my cat. I believe at cat is a carnivore. I don\'t know why but my cat has eaten plants (he does this way too often). I hate it when he does because his body can\'t digest it so he pukes it all up. Think about the connection with humans.
Look at our teeth. Look at a dog (carnivore I believe) and look at a deers (herbivore), now look at ours. A dog has jagged teeth for tearing and chewing teeth. Look at a deers. They are flat because they don\'t need to tear with canines (they have mostly molar type teeth) so they just chew and swallow. Look at a humans. We got the canines for tearing and the molars for chewing. But our molars are different than an herbivores. We have pits and jags on them so we can still tear through meat and chew plants. So basically, what I\'m saying is that for 100,000 years that us humans have been on and evolved, we\'ve been made to eat meat and plants. We aren\'t made to eat only plants or only meat. We are dependant on both.

Now if we were to only eat plants, it would kill more than it would save (there was another thread this was discussed, I\'ll see if I can find it and post the link to back up what I\'m saying) to farm land than slaughter cows and chickens. Things like mice and groundhogs (I lived on a farm for 14 years of my life, I know what I\'m saying) would get cut, trampled and run over by tractors. Not only that but the nutrients in the soil would run out and we\'d need fertilizers. This is taking into account that the population doesn\'t grow. Even at this population, we would still have to expand our agriculture, assuming that all the farms are running at full capacity. Forests will need to be cut down, plains will become fields, mass hysteria on our environment. Now, with all these fields, it doesn\'t give much room for our population to grow. Now, as our population grows, we will need to expand for homes and expand the fields for agriculture. This is impossible.  And I didn\'t take into account that animals would be raised. See, its impossible for humans to just switch over to all plants. We are made to eat both and we always will.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: Titan on August 07, 2003, 02:20:40 PM
Found these links in the "Instant Karma" Thread from December or 2002 (just do a search, you\'ll find it :) ). I think these links are important though. Shockwaves originally posted these.

Source 1 (http://www.furcommission.com/news/newsA3.htm)
Source 2 (http://eesc.orst.edu/agcomwebfile/news/food/vegan.html)
Source 3 (http://www.wildlifedamagecontrol.com/animalrights/leastharm.htm)
 
See, even though I act like an idiot most of the time, I can have something intelligent to say :bounce: I didn\'t read these article though, if I did, it was 9 months ago :)
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: Unicron! on August 08, 2003, 12:12:16 AM
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Originally posted by Coredweller
I thought eating vegetarian was supposed to be healthier, and provide all kinds of benefits, etc.

However, one of my former coworkers is a vegetarian, and she\'s FAT!  She\'s gettin\' big, and I don\'t understand how that can happen if you\'re only eating spinach and carrots and stuff.  I guess maybe being a vegetarian doesn\'t rule out cake and muffins...


Being a vegetarian it doesnt mean you dont eat milk products.Except if she is a 100% vegetarian.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: Unicron! on August 08, 2003, 12:15:49 AM
btw:Shaolin Monks only eat vegetables but HELL WHERE DO THEY GET SUCH STRENGTH?SUCH STAMINA?
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: Ryu on August 08, 2003, 12:32:47 AM
Keeping with the theme of the thread, the only answer I can think of is frequent masturbation.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: SER on August 08, 2003, 04:44:12 AM
I\'m a vaginaterian.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: nO-One on August 08, 2003, 07:55:14 AM
vegetables taste like vegetables but meat tastes like murder and murder tastes pretty god damned good.

I love meat
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: SwifDi on August 08, 2003, 07:57:46 AM
Amen!
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: Kurt Angle on August 08, 2003, 08:02:14 AM
I couldn\'t imagine life without a nice mouthful of meat.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: Unicron! on August 08, 2003, 11:41:52 AM
Personally I dont imagine.I live without a mouthful of meat :D

And believe me there are ton of things except meat outhere to eat that are as tasty.
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: Black Samurai on August 08, 2003, 12:22:46 PM
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Originally posted by Kurt Angle
I couldn\'t imagine life without a nice mouthful of meat.
too easy...
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: Titan on August 08, 2003, 12:22:57 PM
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Originally posted by Kurt Angle
I couldn\'t imagine life without a nice mouthful of meat.


One thing you and Swifdi have in common :p
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: CHIZZY on August 08, 2003, 12:25:29 PM
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Originally posted by SER
I\'m a vaginaterian.


That is perfect!
Title: How many of you are vegetarians
Post by: SER on August 08, 2003, 06:32:46 PM
oo pare. Gusto kong pekpek!