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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Seed_Of_Evil on August 28, 2003, 03:00:56 AM
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I\'m thinking on buying a mp3 player. But i want anything more. I\'ve seen models and such and I would like to get some hdd type model (not flash) with radio incorporated. With this kinda models you\'ve high capacity of storage and furthermore they can work as external hdd\'s for your PC.
I like the MPIO HD100, with radio and 20gb of storage. What do u think? Is it a good purchase? It\'s about €300.
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And another thing. Taking into account that i\'ll have to convert my cd\'s to mp3... what program is the best to convert wav to mp3? I need a good program, quality above all. Which one do u use?
Thanx dudes.
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well that does seem like a nice player, i would suggest the creative jukebox zen 20Gb or jukebox 2 10Gb but the prob is that they dont have a radio built in.
to encode mp3s, lame mp3 encoder is by far the most popular, its somewhat slow compared to other encoders but it gives the best quality.
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lame mp3? thanx, I\'m going to look for it right now.
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I only know xing mp3 encoder! at least it works ;)
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Well, I tried Tyrant one and it works properly, not only with mp3, but with ogg, wav, etc... Nice program with nice tools. Try it out politiepet.
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DAMN YOU TYRANT. What the ****ing program is that? After installing the lame conversor strange problems appeared. Every track I downloaded after installing this software were corrupted. Cratches, heavy sounds, bad sounds... unable to hear that.
I asked for help to fastson who was online. I sent him the files and he had the same problem, the same corruption problems. I reinstalled kazaa and the problems were on. So I uninstall the lame conversor and now the tracks are okay. Not the corrupted, because there may be any kinda codec conflict with this program and when kazaa wrote the files, they were automatically corrupted.
Be careful with this program dudes. I\'ll try another one. :p
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OWND!!!!!!!!!
:laughing:
He probably did that on purpose.
From what I hear an iPOD is one nice mp3 player.
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CDEX is the best Wav / CD to mp3 program there is imo.
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I recommend you try OGG vorbis, it\'s compression scheme is superiour to the out-dated lame.
192kbs lame mp3 can be encoded with vorbis at around 110kb/s
There is no loss in sound quality with vorbis, matter of fact many audiophiles have adopted OGG vorbis, as they swear it sounds better.
Anyhow that\'s just my 2 cents
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Originally posted by Seed_Of_Evil
DAMN YOU TYRANT. What the ****ing program is that? After installing the lame conversor strange problems appeared. Every track I downloaded after installing this software were corrupted. Cratches, heavy sounds, bad sounds... unable to hear that.
I asked for help to fastson who was online. I sent him the files and he had the same problem, the same corruption problems. I reinstalled kazaa and the problems were on. So I uninstall the lame conversor and now the tracks are okay. Not the corrupted, because there may be any kinda codec conflict with this program and when kazaa wrote the files, they were automatically corrupted.
Be careful with this program dudes. I\'ll try another one. :p
oh dude i\'m really sorry that that happened i\'ve tried the prog for quite a while and had no probs btw are u sure u didnt download the unstable version of the prog, because their are a number of versions of this prog theirs the alpa ver., beta vers., and theirs one version a new one i think which is particularly unstable.
and btw spudz i sure as hell did\'nt do it on purpose, i based my suggestion on my experience with the prog.
anyways sorry again Adan.
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No prob tyrant! The problem is gone so I\'ll try another one and that\'s it. BTW, I never, never thought you did it on purpose. And no, it was no a beta. (can\'t remember the ver right now).
Lemme try that one souly.
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I use LAME 192kbps VBR via Razorlame when I need to encode. I do hear a difference, but I always keep the WAV on my HD too since I can spare the extra space.
pS- Audiophiles don\'t use compression. :P
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Originally posted by THX
pS- Audiophiles don\'t use compression. :P
But mp3 players does ;)
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therefore audiophiles don\'t use mp3 players. ;)
I\'m not an audiophile but I use a Discman with an external amp (META 42 based) for plane trips. I also use a pair of Sennheiser HD-280s so I fear the weak internal amp within those tiny mp3 players couldn\'t power a pair of decent cans. Something to think about if you\'re into sound quality...
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..IPOD...
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Originally posted by Living-In-Clip
..IPOD...
I thought in this one because in a specialised mag it won a comparative. The second place is for IPOD. The worst point of ipod is that it isn\'t radio and its price is 150-200€ higher than mpio.
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ipods have a builtin battery, which will at some point die out leaving u with an expensive pile of usless hardware, this is the only reason stopping me from getting one other wise i see no better way for spending 550$.
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cant you replace/recharge the batteries?
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well there may be some way of replacing this trash of lithium batteries... if not... this is only sh¡t.
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pS- Audiophiles don\'t use compression.
Yes they do.
You need to keep in mind that #1 there is no clear definition as to waht makes one an audiophile(long story)
#2 many people I know whom own $20,000 systems still like to use portable cd players/mp3-hard drive)(with separate mini headphone amp)
#3 alot of people choose to use there computer as a medium to stream-out audio to there a reciver, as comression allows them to store thousands of song on there HDD, rather than having to insert a cd for every song. Now you might ask why stream from the computer when CD\'s possses higher quality sound, the answer is simple: In my personal and professional opinion, unless you own expensive audio gear-above strarting at around the $3000 mark then a properly ripped wav-converted to quality 8 mp3-Ogg will not have any difference to the ear than the wav. Alot of times the Placebo effect is the audiophiles worst enemy.
They largest blind study done(year 2000) by Harvard I believe, took somewhere near 5,000 so-called audiophiles, ripped the music(with the best possible program/settings(might hAVE been EAC) encoded in MP3 256kbits and the majority of them could not tell the difference between the CD and mp3. You see they never were told which was which. That\'s why I strongly believe in Blind studys, as the mind can no longer play tricks on you.
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Audiophiles are unoffically considered audiophiles if they spend around $75-$100+ grand on the audio side of their system alone. I am one of those people that have an HTPC (http://mywebpages.comcast.net/donaldbl/kungfu52/htpics/ht2.jpg) and use it for almost everything, including music. I just consider myself an enthusiast but I can tell the difference between MP3 and redbook. It\'s not in my mind it\'s blatantly obvious even on my meager setup. The line does get thinner at 256kbps+ LAME but an mp3 is still just an mp3. 44.1kHz/16-bit redbook is already an aging format.. why make it worse? If it\'s for the sake of convenience then that person isn\'t exactly an audiophile... they always put audio quality over convenience. Hence turntables costing more than your car.
And when I back up my CDs it\'s always to raw Wavforms, many do the same thing.
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Originally posted by Seed_Of_Evil
well there may be some way of replacing this trash of lithium batteries... if not... this is only sh¡t.
so wait you have an ipod?
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Originally posted by Spudz
so wait you have an ipod?
No I haven\'t, but i\'m fed up of lithium batteries aswell.
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Originally posted by Spudz
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cant you replace/recharge the batteries?
u can recharge them but u cant replace them coz their inbuilt, and as we all know rechargable batteries die out after long term use or excessive recharging or over charging.
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Originally posted by Tyrant
u can recharge them but u cant replace them coz their inbuilt, and as we all know rechargable batteries die out after long term use or excessive recharging or over charging.
I\'ve had a minidisc player for 6 years and it hasn\'t died out yet but then again, I haven\'t used it much in the last two years. In fact I\'ve never heard of anyone who have had a device where the batteries have died out, mainly coz they\'ve all replaced it with newer gadgets after 4-6 years. If I buy an IPod I don\'t plan on using it in 6 years time, as there would be a much better product out there by then for sure. But hey, that\'s just me.