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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Rick on September 07, 2003, 01:15:28 PM
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I\'m getting a new monitor and am considering getting a 15" TFT. This is mainly due to saving space as I\'m off to Uni. Is the screen size the same as a 17"? I\'m sure I read somewhere it was, what do you guys think?
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15" ?
say goodbye to your eyes
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I have a 17" TFT on my new computer and a 17"CRT on my old one, the TFT does seem to have a much bigger picture and sharper too. When I use the CRT monitor now it looks like crap imo.
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Cant really afford a 17" TFT though...
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17" crt is only like 1/2" bigger than a 15" TFT.
THere are more and more LCD screens in the stores. One day these big ass CRTs are going to be a thing of the past.
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Thanks vid, thats what I thought, I\'m gonna take a look tomorrow anyway
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I\'ve been gaming and using a 15" LCD for a while now and I love it. The only thing I don\'t like is the short range blacks and the ghosting effect that is apparent only after playing again on a CRT. You won\'t be disappointed with the sharpness and clarity LCD.
Hey thinking about it, wanna grab mine? It\'s a Viewsonic VA520 (http://www.viewsonic.com/products/lcd_va520.htm) bought at Office Depot, still has ZERO dead or stuck pixels, just as good as new. Best Buy and CompUSA have it for display if you wanna test it out first. VS is known for big, bright and colorful lcd panels. I\'m just looking to get a 17" since I got a new job.
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i recommend getting a good crt monitor, something like a 21" dell p1110 (with the trinitron tubes). dunno about the U.S but around here they cost less than a 17" LCD monitor.
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were that funny picture of the Japanese man playing game with huge goggles on with the ledgend.
"Ah my Eyes.. the Goggles they do nothing ! "
:laughing:
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Originally posted by ooseven
were that funny picture of the Japanese man playing game with huge goggles on with the ledgend.
:confused:
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17" TFT screens don\'t really cost that much anymore. At least not here... but whatEVAR floats your boat. :)
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I hate dead pixels. Make sure your monitor hasn\'t any.
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Trinitron ownz all. LCD\'s will shine half as bright after a few years while CRT continue to be as good as day one (generally speaking).
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Lol! You got that mixed up dood. I have to turn up the brightness and contrast on my 4yr old Samsung to 100% to get a decent image. An LCD stays just as bright as it does on day one. This is the difference between analog and digital displays.
Would you rather buy a used CRT or a used LCD? Screensavers were made for the safety and longevity of CRTs, LCDs don\'t even need them.
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I heard that 15" TFT monitors are about to dissapear because companies prefer to sell 17" ones due to its production price is practically the same.
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Originally posted by THX
Lol! You got that mixed up dood. I have to turn up the brightness and contrast on my 4yr old Samsung to 100% to get a decent image. An LCD stays just as bright as it does on day one. This is the difference between analog and digital displays.
Would you rather buy a used CRT or a used LCD? Screensavers were made for the safety and longevity of CRTs, LCDs don\'t even need them.
Lastly, some early LCDs were limited to 262,144 colours rather than the full 16.7 million colours.
Colour calibration is another area of weakness: graphics professionals who demand the ultimate in colour fidelity are able to precisely control factors such as colour temperature on a CRT, something that is much more difficult with an LCD.
http://compreviews.about.com/library/weekly/aa-crtvlcd.htm
Macintosh sells a $2000 LCD that has 16.7 million colors, however.
Oh, and as far as burning half as bright, this is from experience here at our office. We\'ve had LCD screens since they first came out 6 years ago.
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Yea I know all that, which is why I said I didn\'t like the short range of blacks LCDs produce. If he\'s not a graphics designer he\'ll be more than fine with LCD.
I don\'t know why your LCDs burn half as bright, the bulb either works or it doesn\'t. In fact the only thing that could go wrong with an LCD (other than dead pixels due to mishandling) is the bulb to burn out. Something to ask the tech guys at your office, or the LCD manufacturers.
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sif tft. sifnt plasma.
on a positive note, I\'ve had my lappy for a long time now and its TFT screen is perfect. I\'d choose a TFT monitor over a heavy CRT any day ... that I have the money. :p
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Well, I\'ve gone for a 15 inch tft, it looks the same size as my 17 crt, so I\'m happy!
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Originally posted by Rick
Well, I\'ve gone for a 15 inch tft, it looks the same size as my 17 crt, so I\'m happy!
You mean your real screen size is the same than a 17" crt?
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Originally posted by Seed_Of_Evil
You mean your real screen size is the same than a 17" crt?
Yeah, the 15" TFT screen looks approx the same size as my old 17" CRT screen!
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godness then what\'s the size of a 17" tft? Like a plasma 42" or what? xDD
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My 17" TFT looks similar to a 19" CRT. After owning this monitor I would never go back to a CRT. Even viewing these forums looks so much better, peoples posts appear in alternate shades of black. I never saw this with my CRT just one shade of black, even with the brightness turned up to max.
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Originally posted by Kurt Angle
Even viewing these forums looks so much better, peoples posts appear in alternate shades of black. I never saw this with my CRT just one shade of black, even with the brightness turned up to max.
That really was a crappy monitor then. :p
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Originally posted by Samwise
That really was a crappy monitor then. :p
It was a Dell, and yes it must be crappy but I didn\'t really notice how crap it was until I got my TFT.:D
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Originally posted by THX
Yea I know all that, which is why I said I didn\'t like the short range of blacks LCDs produce. If he\'s not a graphics designer he\'ll be more than fine with LCD.
I don\'t know why your LCDs burn half as bright, the bulb either works or it doesn\'t. In fact the only thing that could go wrong with an LCD (other than dead pixels due to mishandling) is the bulb to burn out. Something to ask the tech guys at your office, or the LCD manufacturers.
The gas or liquid (which is lit up) wears out, I guess. Anyway, Trinitron is hard to beat. For the quality and for the price vs LCD. I\'ve had my flat screen CRT since 1998 (.25 dot pitch) and is comparable to or better than most LCDs out there.
EDIT - I don\'t have a trinitron, but I did buy my fiance a 19 inch Trinitron. I think it\'s at .22 dot pitch. Super sharp! Only a Macintosh LCD beats it. It cost me $230 vs Mac\'s $2000.
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I’m sorry some of you need to try out the high-end CAD CRT monitors, and then tell me LCD is better. So far any of the monitors you guys have listed are not high-end. Also those that say that sony monitor’s rule, are getting ripped off. Sony charges a premium for any monitor under there brand name. Many 3rd party CRT manufactures use the Trinitron tube for there product. Don’t forget there is also Diamitron (NEC, and Samsung 19ch 900NF use this tech) which is an advent of the Trinitron tube, personally I find that diamitron does a overall better job than the Trinitron tube, as it gives a smoother look.
While LCD is gaining market share, as well as improving its technology, it’s still is not up to par with my Samsung 900NF 19inch.
One area LCD\'s do excel in, that beats CRT’s is the geometry.
In regards to dead pixels, LCD manufactures bare no liability to lcd\'s that are shipped out with 1-3 dead pixels. This is a grey area, a hush, hush sort of thing that LCD manufactures do not like to talk about. Out of the production yield, 10-20% of the LCD’s shipped have dead pixels.
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All good arguments but our buddy Rick is looking for a monitor to fit in a small space. Have you guys ever lived in a 2-person dorm? I had problems fitting my 17" flatscreen Sammy in my room and my friend had to fully remove his top desk hutch to fit his 19" monitor. Not to mention there was next to NO deskspace with the tower + CRT on it.
We all know which is better all-around but when space is a factor CRT is years behind.
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Just make sure you dont buy anything Samsung, i still have a "whining" monitor and the asses refuse to answer my complaint e-mails so i\'ll have to spend like 20 quid phoning them at some time =[
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Just make sure you don’t buy any thing Samsung
I strongly advise you disregard this statement, as Samsung are one of the BEST and Bang for your buck CRT/TFT monitors out there.
LOL, buy a Sony and see how much of an ass they are if you get a ****ed up monitor. Other companies can be a pain as well, really depends on manufacturer, and location you live
Make sure when you purchase a monitor, the retailer has a good return policy. This usually is your #1 rule. When purchasing Monitors never skimp on price, what I mean by that is, don\'t buy CRT\'s online(shipping damages there quality). When purchasing from a store (which you should do) ask the sales clerk if he can hook the monitor up for you to inspect it’s quality.
The sad thing is especially with CRT\'s, is out of a production line of 20 half the monitors with deferrer from one another by the time they reach the store. In other words if you buy 2 identical CRT’’s you may notice that one deferrers in color or geometry from the other. With TFT inspect for any dead pixels, or black spots.
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The Trinitron I got was a Dell. Cheaper than Sony...although the same monitor. :)
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he Trinitron I got was a Dell. Cheaper than Sony..
As I was saying before, many maufactures use the trinitron tube, buying the Sony name is a joke. Also keep in mind Dell monitors as well as other companys that use crt only use the trinitron tube, Sony does not design the dell monitor you buy, they only produce the tube.
If you are a lover of the trinitron tube, and are a fanatic of display quality, there is a company, can\'t remember the name right now(although this company is not mainstrem, they are popular amongst CAD/Graphic developers) that utilize the trinitron tube to it\'s fullest, far better than SONY themselves.
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Originally posted by NVIDIA256
If you are a lover of the trinitron tube, and are a fanatic of display quality, there is a company, can\'t remember the name right now(although this company is not mainstrem, they are popular amongst CAD/Graphic developers) that utilize the trinitron tube to it\'s fullest, far better than SONY themselves.
Well???? What\'s the name and how much for a 19 inch? :)
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Well... I use NEC. If you look at the proffessional line of their CRTs you really can\'t go wrong. You end up paying double of what you normally would for that 21", but at the same time, there is a noticible difference.
I, for instance, see a great many "shades of black" on this website, and I\'m running at 1280x1024 easily at 85hz (and I could go to 100).
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TFT is way too expensive for me now, maybe later.
But anyway, 15"TFT has a real 15" viewing angle, while a 15" CRT has something like 14" viewing angle.
Thus a 17"CRT will have something like 16" viewing angle. If u r not sure, just use a ruler or tape to measure from one diagonal area to the other. :)
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Whoever said Samsung makes crap anything is retarded. I\'m sorry, but the best TV on the market right now is a Samsung without a friggin doubt. Their DLP technology has absolute black levels and it\'s friggin amazing with the right 1080i setup. I think Vid and I have gone over this before in some TV related off-topic thread.
As for CRT or TFT, you can go either way honestly. I\'d recommend you take advantage of a stores return policy, that\'s if you buy it in store of course, and try out a TFT and see if it floats your boat. You won\'t get a finer Windows related display then a TFT for 32-bit applications and winXP, but when it comes to gaming, you might be a little miffed by the ghosting. Some people get used to it while others are apalled by it. I got used to it personally and love my TFT, but to each their own.
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I just bought a new SAMSUNG CRT and am seeing the "shades of grey" mentioned by somebody...Ooohh...I love my Samsung CRT!!!
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Well I use a GNR PF997 Super 19"
Cheap a chips and a cracking picture too.
Perfectly flat screen and 3 years on site warrenty for less than £130
I`m happy