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Non Gaming Discussions => Off-Topic => Topic started by: Kurt Angle on September 11, 2003, 12:25:37 AM
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Swedish Foreign Minister Anna Lindh has died in hospital from stab wounds inflicted while she was shopping in a department store in the centre of Stockholm.
Mrs Lindh, who suffered wounds to the chest, stomach and arms in the attack, spent most of the night in surgery as doctors tried unsuccessfully to save her life.
"During the operation it was confirmed that there was severe internal bleeding from a wound to the liver and several large blood vessels in the abdomen," a hospital statement said.
Mrs Lindh, a prominent figure in the pro-European currency campaign in Sweden and one of the country\'s most popular politicians, was attacked by an unknown assailant.
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I hope they catch the guy:(
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3098834.stm
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Yeah heard the news on my radio nt the bus in to work.
Very shocking news indeed.
Didn\'t realise till today how open to the public Swedish MP\'s are.
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Its typical, the only politican I really like (because she said what she thought, and didnt try to hide it like others) gets murured.. :(
I hope they get that ****er soon, he\'s hunted in the whole country.
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fastson, was it due to the opinion of this woman about the euro?
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Originally posted by Seed_Of_Evil
fastson, was it due to the opinion of this woman about the euro?
Do one knows yet..
It could be or it could of been the just the act of someone Mentally unstable.
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that would really suck.
dying for a random, stupid reason like that.
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Last I heard the Police still think that it could be a random attack but they are not rulling it out that it would have a motive. They have are still sifting through security camera\'s to get a better idea of what happen.
Also the level of public out cry is huge...
Whats it like Fastson ?.... I am hearing reports of Vigils at both the parliament building and the store where it happened.
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Well, I heard that this woman was one of the best defensor of the euro in Sweden.. so I thought so.
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The sad and shocking thing for me is that yesterday the news reports said her injuries were not severe or life threatening. This morning this all changes as we find out she was in the operating theatre for 14 hours while the surgeons battled to save her life.
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What a bad day this has been.. First Anna Lindh dies, then they find the body of the 16 year old missing girl (Nathalie Rönnqvist) and if that wasnt enough some lunatic grabs a 5 year old kid and kills her. :mad:
11 September is truly evil.
fastson, was it due to the opinion of this woman about the euro?
Like ooseven said, we don’t know. We have very little information on the motives of the murderer.
Last I heard the Police still think that it could be a random attack but they are not rulling it out that it would have a motive. They have are still sifting through security camera\'s to get a better idea of what happen.
They have excluded that it was a purse snatcher gone bad, like the first reports said. They suspect he might have followed her there and then attacked. They think he worked alone.
Right now they need more witnesses on what happened before and after the attack.
The guy just mystically disappeared after the attack, they have no clue where he went.
But they have found the weapon and some clothes from the guy, they are looking for prints and DNA samples... If they get prints they have a very good chance of identifying him as we have a huge record on fingerprints. Lets hope he left something behind.
Also the level of public out cry is huge...
Yes, people are blaiming SÄPO (Säkerhetspolisen/ Security Police) for not forcing bodyguards on her (they didn’t even consider bodyguards..).
And people fear the Police will **** up the investigation like they did during the Palme murder.
Whats it like Fastson ?.... I am hearing reports of Vigils at both the parliament building and the store where it happened.
They have those all over the place, in the parliament, the hometown of Lindh and so on.
Also there is a huge mountain of flowers outside of the store and the Riksdag/Parliament.
They also held a memorial thingy in the church.. Everyone was there, the PM, party leaders, King, Queen and so on.
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Olof Palme (1986) and Anna Lindh (2003), both assassinated.
Here are some more pictures: http://www.aftonbladet.se/vss/special/bildspel/visa/nyheter/0,4542,743,00.html
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Good post Fastson
Here is the latest info (in english)
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3101246.stm
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Hmm, I just heard on TV4 that the Police has arrested a man that fits the description.. He was acting very aggressive when they caught him.
Lets hope they got the right man!
EDIT: It was not the right man.. He matched the description, but the police checked his whereabouts during the attack and he was in the drunk cell during that time.
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Very sad.
So there are debates in Europe on using euros? Sorry if I seem ignorant.
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It is the second politicla murder in Sweden i na period of 17 years, that is a very high number.
What is happening to our country?
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Butterface.
Maybe the guy will get the chair. Do you guys do that over there?
Maybe a nice booting is in order. One kick, with a normal shoe, possibly a wingtip.
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Originally posted by Bossieman
It is the second politicla murder in Sweden i na period of 17 years, that is a very high number.
What is happening to our country?
Yep its baaad! But both murders seem to be the work of lone lunatics though, no real network behind them. One doped up drug addict (Im 100% sure it was Pettersson) and the other, we will see.. He\'s clearly psychopathic though.
Gohan: On a day like this I wish we did, but sadly no.. it was banned in 1921.
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Latest news is that the police have several suspects, all are known criminals.. They are tracking them down right now.
The Police also has 6 "hot" leads to go on.
1. The clothes, they found a cap and a jacket. They have been sent to SKL so they can look for traces of blood, DNA and skin samples from the murderer.
2. Shoe prints.
They have secured several shoe prints in the area.
3. Security Cameras.
The Security Cameras are being looked at to see if they snapped a photo of the guy. So far no positive news.
4. The knife.
They will try to find prints on the weapon. It will be pretty hard since the knife handle had a pattern.. Also the person who found the weapon took it in his hand before informing the police (dumbass!)
5. Witnesses.
The Police keeps getting more and more witnesses as the time goes on. A lot of witnesses have seen the man so when he it caught he will be easy to point out in a line-up.
6. Fingerprints.
They have secured several "interesting" prints from the crime scene.
Also, on a poll on the website of the biggest newspaper in Sweden they asked "Do you think the police will solve the murder of Anna Lindh" .. Yes 40.9 % , No 51.7%, Dont know 7.4% ..
So you see, the people dont have a lot of trust in them (since the Palme murder.. But IMO it was solved, Christer Pettersson IS guilty (Palmes wife IDENTIFIED HIM!).. Its just that the murder weapon was missing.)
Interesting times ahead!
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Leif Jennekvist – head of the investigation
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Here he is..
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The suspect, caught on camera on another floor a few minutes before the murder. As you can see he wears the same type of cap as the police have recovered. It seems like they got a good picture.
But why the HELL did the newspaper leak the photo when the Police didn’t want them to? And how the hell did they get the photo?
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That\'s a very clear pic, apart from the censoring of course. Somebody must know him from that pic and I think it will only be a matter of time before he is caught.
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The Police have released the uncensored pictures now.
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Great quality pics, if I were him I would be very worried right now. His ass is as good as busted.
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Yeah surprisingly good for being a security camera .. :)
I think he looks like Henrik Zetterberg, perhaps I should give the cops a call? :p
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This guy better get what he deserves.
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Latest news: The Police say they think they know who he is, and that they\'ll get him within 2 days.
They are certain he\'s still in Stockholm.
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EDIT: Back from the conference, the Police denied that they have arrested anyone. They didn’t want to comment on if he was identified or not. Rumours however are saying that they have identified him and that he has been (don’t know the correct English words but..) "arrested in his absence".
More news later!
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The police think he might be foreign and that he might have fled the country.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3113034.stm
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Originally posted by Kurt Angle
The police think he might be foreign and that he might have fled the country.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/3113034.stm
Interesting.. But I read somewhere that he said something to one of the witnesses right after the attack, and that he spoke Swedish.
Also, rumours circulating right now is that the Police are looking for his girlfriend in Stockholm.
Aftonbladet just put a new story on their site. It says that the man (they say on the site that he is "anhållen i sin frånvaro"/"arrested in his absence"(?), but the Police refused to confirm this.) is 35 years old, is known to carry a knife, and that he is known in the right-extremist groups. He is "friends" with several known Nazis.
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35 years old?
Maybe it\'s just me but from those pics he look more like 25.
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They got him.. :cool:
They picked him up in a restaurant near Råsunda.
If it’s the murderer he might aswell confess right now, they got his DNA and possibly his fingerprints, plus over 20 witnesses can point him out.
I hope its finally over!
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Good! Nail that bastard to the wall! :) If you need him executed, I think we have some idle electric chairs in Illinois. :p
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Good news!
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Coredweller: Sure, I might take you up on that.. ;)
Kurt Angle: Yeah, I heard we sent that knife to England btw. You guys are very advanced in the forensic science area.
SKL did find something on the knife, but the "traces" are so small that they decided not to spoil it, and instead send it to England.
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His name is Per Olof Svensson
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You think this is the man?
The prosecutor has till tomorrow to hand in the application to have him remand in custody.
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Has he confessed or denied anything yet?
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Originally posted by Kurt Angle
Has he confessed or denied anything yet?
Denied everyzing.
Tomorrow at 12 o\'clock the deadline is up. Either they release him or lay out the evidence.
Since they have his cap and some blood that might be his, that should not be so hard. Unless they got the wrong dude.
DNA results will be ready today.
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I read in the newspaper today that this guy was released but they have arrested someone else who bears a resemblance to the attacker. He has a criminal record too, so let\'s hope there is a successful outcome to all this.
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Bump!!!!
Any more news on this incident Fastson, it\'s all gone quiet about this.
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Originally posted by Kurt Angle
Bump!!!!
Any more news on this incident Fastson, it\'s all gone quiet about this.
Ah well, the first guy they got (the dude in the picture Bossie posted) was the wrong man. :rolleyes:
Typical, the newspapers were having a field day digging into his past, writing up stories about him and so on. Then it turns out he is not the killer, so now he can sue them (not American style, he does not get billions, but maybe a few hundred thousand.)
Anyways, shortly after his release (a few days) they get this 24 year old man. The cops are pretty sure its him, I think they got DNA evidence from the cap, and now just a few days ago they got the results back from Britain about that knife.
They wont say if his DNA matched out right, but they did say that now they suspect him more than ever (which can only mean one thing :p )
He has been detained in custody on the highest level of suspicion (the other guy, was detained with the lowest level of suspicion).
The likely murderer is this guy.
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Mijailo Mijailovic
If they got the DNA on the weapon (which I’m pretty sure they have), then its over for him.. Life in prison (20+ years, depends) or maybe more likely forced mental care (?).
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I hope its him. And I hope he gets nailed to the wall for this.
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Thanks for the update fastson.
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The cops are pretty sure its him.. When they were tailing him a few hours (days?) before the arrest they saw him on his balcony hundreds of times doing the "cross on chest" sign and looking up the sky.
Also, he did not leave his apartment much, and the few times he went outside he was acting very nervous.
Anyways, the reason I\'m bumping this thread is because the trial has now been given a date.. It will start on the 14th or 15th January.
And for the first time ever, media is allowed to "show" the trail on TV Live, but only Audio.
TV4+ is going to air from 9 in the morning to 16:30 each day, also the trial is expected to last seven to ten days.
The trial will take place in Stockholms Tingsrätt säkerhetsal (Stockholm’s District Court security hall)
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Now, lets hope he gets life (even if that means ~20 years).
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Mijailo Mijailovic has confessed..
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Stupid mofo, now he has ruined the trial :( j/k, it will be a pleasure to see him go down.
He confessed after reading the overwhelming evidence they have against him, but I hope they wont give him a milder sentence because of the confession.
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Has he said why he did it, was she a target or just a random victim?
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Originally posted by Kurt Angle
Has he said why he did it, was she a target or just a random victim?
From todays paper.
"Mijailovic did not have a motive to murder Anna Lindh."
"There was no motive. It was just an random act of violence, he said."
"He though the crime was so crazy that he did not know how he could explain it, a source says."
"There was no political background or motive or planning that lead to the murder. It all happened because of random circumstances."
I just heard on the Radio that the trial will begin on the 13th, this month.
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He lied about it not being planned?
From todays paper:
Aftonbladet
"Camera images show that the murder was not a impulse action"
"By looking at the time reference on the pictures taken with the security cameras at NK, the police can see that Mijailo Mijailovic had been there for 14 minutes before the attack took place"
"They also know that he first spotted her by the entrance of NK. He then made his way up to the 2nd floor where he observed her from a balcony."
A source says "- He used the time (the 14 minutes) to prepare himself, find a suitable time to attack. If it would have been a spontaneous act, he would have attacked her in the foyer."
Little bitch... Cant wait til the 13th.
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Check this out, this is pretty scary..
They day before the attack, the murderer Mijailovic was standing and listening to Folkpartiets (the Liberal Party) leader Lars Leijonborg’s speech on the streets of Stockholm.
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Closeup
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The next day
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Note he has the same cap and pants.
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Fastson ....whats the maximum Sentence he can receve &does Sweden have the Death penalty ?
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Today, Mijailo Mijailovic was found guilty by Stockholms district court, for the murder of Anna Lindh.
His sentence will be settled within 4-5 weeks after his forensic psychiatry examination is done. It is to determine if he is healthy enough to be sent to prison, or if he should be sent to a hospital.
But that seems unlikely since he did not behave as a sick person right after the attack, he discarded evidence and tried to burn his clothes, he spoke to a taxi driver right after the attack and spoke of women etc. Does not sound like a person who has just heard Jesus ( :rolleyes: ) voice, now does it?
Most people "in the know" are pretty sure he will get a prison sentence.
Originally posted by ooseven
Fastson ....whats the maximum Sentence he can receve &does Sweden have the Death penalty ?
Sorry, missed your post.
Maximum sentence is life in prison.. that means there is no real timeframe of the sentence. The least amount of time you must sit is 15 years though. Usually they get probation after 20 years.
The longest someone that I know of has served, is 25 years (and counting).
The death penalty was banned in 1921 (last man was executed in 1910), and in 1972 it was even banned for wartime (execution of soldiers etc).
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Intresting to see how this develops.
Hey Fastson can you keep us updated.
Its covered over here but not in the same detail.
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Sure thing.. :)
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Mijailo Mijailovic under investigation for another murder.
The police is investigating if Mijailovic had anything to do with the murder of the 77 year old Nils Bergman.
Nils was attacked when he was walking home from church. He was found bleeding with his throat slit.
During the time of that murder (14 Nov. 2002), Mijailovic often visited friends who lived in that area (less than a kilometre away). His friends said he always carried a knife and told them that "he was ready to attack someone".
The Taxi driver who drove Mijailovic home after he had attacked Anna Lindh said that when he mentioned "Skärholmen" (the place where the old man was attacked), Mijaliovic "changed colour" (got scared), that he reacted to the name Skärholmen.
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Nils Bergman
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Mijailovic during the trial.
Hmm, interesting.. If its him, I hope they nail that bastard (again). He\'s sounding like a new Thomas Quick. :evil:
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Im glad he\'s been found guilty. He sounds like one dangerous sick individual who will most likely strike again given the opportunity.